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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 10:36:05 PM EDT
You’re welcome Get em while you can.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 10:50:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/3/2024 12:14:31 AM EDT
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I'm still running them, just put the first 25 in stock to gauge how many I need to run in this batch.
More than I thought, evidently. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 12:17:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: ... And out of stock already. Wowza |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 12:20:48 AM EDT
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Shit I think that's exactly what I want. I'm actually going to certify my scythe ti tomorrow, just got a notification. I'm just not sure how much space in the first chamber for muzzle devices. If anyone knows let me know. Weird, must be an omen.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 1:02:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECCO_Machine: I'm still running them, just put the first 25 in stock to gauge how many I need to run in this batch. More than I thought, evidently. Hi When will you have this in stock Griffin Long & XL 1.375-24 Bravo Adapter Any in titanium? |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 2:39:02 AM EDT
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Would I have enough room to run the Paladin brake with this adapter and my scythe ti?
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CT, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 4:02:40 AM EDT
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I guess the email notification didn't work...
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Posted: 5/3/2024 4:25:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Toker_: I guess the email notification didn't work... |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 8:23:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECCO_Machine: I'm still running them, just put the first 25 in stock to gauge how many I need to run in this batch. More than I thought, evidently. Other than appearance, is there any maintenance downside to either natural or Moly-Coat Resin? Like, will damaging the coating cause misalignment or will the uncoated version stick to a Ti mount? In case you can’t tell, I’m totally unfamiliar with that coating. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 9:38:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1168RGR: FWIW, I’m in for 3 now, and a few more later after everyone else gets a chance to get theirs. Other than appearance, is there any maintenance downside to either natural or Moly-Coat Resin? Like, will damaging the coating cause misalignment or will the uncoated version stick to a Ti mount? In case you can’t tell, I’m totally unfamiliar with that coating. Norrel’s Moly Resin is a thin, hard, durable, temp resistant, solvent impervious, thermally cured, mostly cosmetic (especially for titanium) coating. I’d be surprised if it’s applied to mating surfaces. It’s hard to scratch and looks good. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 10:18:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1168RGR: Other than appearance, is there any maintenance downside to either natural or Moly-Coat Resin? Like, will damaging the coating cause misalignment or will the uncoated version stick to a Ti mount? It's purely a cosmetic feature on the outside of the mount. So there is no functional difference between coated or uncoated. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 10:21:07 AM EDT
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I’ll add that my chopped MG7K done by Ecco was refinished with moly resin, and I’ve found it to be a very durable coating. Way better than the cerakote on my Wolfman, for instance.
 The King of Silence, Improved: Rex MG7K Mod Ecco |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 10:29:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Toker_: I guess the email notification didn't work... Worked for me. |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 12:53:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mk4dubbin: Worked for me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mk4dubbin: Worked for me. Originally Posted By turbobrick: It worked for me, I was able to order another one. Hopefully, you're still able to grab one of the extra ones. Signed up again. Fingers crossed. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 1:03:02 PM EDT
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Semi related - are any of your Plan A / HUB adapters cut to fit with that little indented waist the Ranger 7 has? My Griffin adapter has a skirt that hits it and prevents full seating.
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Posted: 5/3/2024 1:54:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1168RGR]
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Originally Posted By KalmanPhilter: Norrel’s Moly Resin is a thin, hard, durable, temp resistant, solvent impervious, thermally cured, mostly cosmetic (especially for titanium) coating. I’d be surprised if it’s applied to mating surfaces. It’s hard to scratch and looks good. Originally Posted By dmk0210: Neither the threads nor the taper are coated. It's purely a cosmetic feature on the outside of the mount. So there is no functional difference between coated or uncoated. Originally Posted By Amish_Bill: Semi related - are any of your Plan A / HUB adapters cut to fit with that little indented waist the Ranger 7 has? My Griffin adapter has a skirt that hits it and prevents full seating. |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 1:56:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Amish_Bill: Semi related - are any of your Plan A / HUB adapters cut to fit with that little indented waist the Ranger 7 has? My Griffin adapter has a skirt that hits it and prevents full seating. The Ranger 7 needs the Plan A Long to fit the Griffin muzzle devices. https://www.griffinarmament.com/plan-a-long-taper-mount-adapter-for-omega-nomad-other-1-375x24-threaded-suppressors/ That being said, this Ecco looks like it may fit, but no one has confirmed it yet. If I can purchase one, I'll report back if it fits or not. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 2:25:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1168RGR: ...The Griffin Plan A L doesn't have the skirt that the regular Griffin Plan A has. Don't remember if we've talked about that before, or know for sure if it'll work. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1168RGR: ...The Griffin Plan A L doesn't have the skirt that the regular Griffin Plan A has. Don't remember if we've talked about that before, or know for sure if it'll work. Originally Posted By Toker_: The Ranger 7 needs the Plan A Long to fit the Griffin muzzle devices. https://www.griffinarmament.com/plan-a-long-taper-mount-adapter-for-omega-nomad-other-1-375x24-threaded-suppressors/ That being said, this Ecco looks like it may fit, but no one has confirmed it yet. If I can purchase one, I'll report back if it fits or not. This is weird - The A is too short, the XL gives more internal space and looks better, but has an interfering internal skirt, but the more expensive "L" smack in the middle doesn't. Hmmm... I just had a random idea - is that internal restriction an alignment taper? |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 3:39:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Amish_Bill: Hmmm... I just had a random idea - is that internal restriction an alignment taper? No idea. The factory AAC direct thread only has a miniscule lip in front of the threads. Maybe someone with a Stamp adapter can chime in on what that has. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 3:48:03 PM EDT
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Meh, Plan B is better
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 4:07:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blacktoothgrin: Meh, Plan B is better Thank you for your helpful contribution. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 5:55:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bluedog82: Thank you for your helpful contribution. Your welcome |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 8:17:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ar15joe: Hi When will you have this in stock Griffin Long & XL 1.375-24 Bravo Adapter Any in titanium? It's gonna be a minute. I'm running these and then hopefully some Rearden/Cherry bomb adapters tomorrow, then starting next week I have to get after service work that's gonna take a month or more, then building TLXs, Canines and Five By Fives is priority. We did just bring in another machine, a Mazak SQT200MSY (4 axis subspindle lathe), but I don't have it under power yet, don't know if it may have issues. Once we get it going, production capacity will increase (I only have one live tool lathe operational right now), but it takes some time to get them leveled, tooled up and dialed in. These machines aren't like plugging in an appliance. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 9:55:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blacktoothgrin: Meh, Plan B is better In what way? |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 10:04:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Luny421: In what way? He had Kevin call him. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 10:16:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/3/2024 10:37:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bluedog82: He had Kevin call him. Unpossible |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:31:49 AM EDT
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Got the email notification this time. Ordered one. Let's see if it fits the Ranger 7.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 2:05:15 AM EDT
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Ok help me out here. It says "1.375-24 Bravo (“ASR”, “H.U.B.”) Griffin taper adapter specs". Does this mean it fits any Bravo "HUB" suppressor for the Griffin Taper Adapters? The "ASR" in the description throws me off, I thought "ASR" was a different mounting solution. What I want is a Titanium adapter to fit in my Scythe Ti that will take Plan A taper muzzle devices from Griffin, is this what I want?
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Posted: 5/4/2024 2:24:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: eagarminuteman]
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Forgot to quote
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Posted: 5/4/2024 2:24:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fmkenner: Ok help me out here. It says "1.375-24 Bravo (“ASR”, “H.U.B.”) Griffin taper adapter specs". Does this mean it fits any Bravo "HUB" suppressor for the Griffin Taper Adapters? The "ASR" in the description throws me off, I thought "ASR" was a different mounting solution. What I want is a Titanium adapter to fit in my Scythe Ti that will take Plan A taper muzzle devices from Griffin, is this what I want? Yes this is what you want. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 2:44:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: fmkenner]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Yes this is what you want. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Originally Posted By fmkenner: Ok help me out here. It says "1.375-24 Bravo (“ASR”, “H.U.B.”) Griffin taper adapter specs". Does this mean it fits any Bravo "HUB" suppressor for the Griffin Taper Adapters? The "ASR" in the description throws me off, I thought "ASR" was a different mounting solution. What I want is a Titanium adapter to fit in my Scythe Ti that will take Plan A taper muzzle devices from Griffin, is this what I want? Yes this is what you want. Thank you. ETA: Just ordered it. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 5:14:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fmkenner: Ok help me out here. It says "1.375-24 Bravo ("ASR", "H.U.B.") Griffin taper adapter specs". Does this mean it fits any Bravo "HUB" suppressor for the Griffin Taper Adapters? The "ASR" in the description throws me off, I thought "ASR" was a different mounting solution. What I want is a Titanium adapter to fit in my Scythe Ti that will take Plan A taper muzzle devices from Griffin, is this what I want?  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 9:35:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Luny421: In what way? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Luny421: Originally Posted By Blacktoothgrin: Meh, Plan B is better In what way? Threads are behind the taper. Think its lighter as well IIRC. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 10:10:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fmkenner: Ok help me out here. It says "1.375-24 Bravo (“ASR”, “H.U.B.”) Griffin taper adapter specs". Does this mean it fits any Bravo "HUB" suppressor for the Griffin Taper Adapters? The "ASR" in the description throws me off, I thought "ASR" was a different mounting solution. What I want is a Titanium adapter to fit in my Scythe Ti that will take Plan A taper muzzle devices from Griffin, is this what I want? It's there in parenthesis and quotation marks because the Form 1 world started using "ASR thread" to describe Bravo pattern. It began with Diversified Machine calling a Bravo threaded tube the "ASR Advantage", and took on a life of it's own from there. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 10:19:31 AM EDT
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Ordered 4
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 10:52:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blacktoothgrin: Threads are behind the taper. Think its lighter as well IIRC. That's just a personal preference. All the basic taper mounts work equally well. The differences boil down to FH/Brake/Comp designs available, thread patterns available, aesthetics, tool features, and very slight weight/length differences. Except for thread patterns, these are all just personal preference. Unless there is a Ti mount for Plan B, I doubt it's lighter than these Ti Ecco mounts. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 11:05:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: eagarminuteman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: That's just a personal preference. All the basic taper mounts work equally well. The differences boil down to FH/Brake/Comp designs available, thread patterns available, aesthetics, tool features, and very slight weight/length differences. Except for thread patterns, these are all just personal preference. Unless there is a Ti mount for Plan B, I doubt it's lighter than these Ti Ecco mounts. Pretty sure the DD Zilch is the only one close at 1.5 oz, Ecco is at 1.1 oz. ETA: Rearden Atlas Ti is 1.2 oz, I stand corrected |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 11:39:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blacktoothgrin: Threads are behind the taper. I figured that would be the response. It’s a nonissue. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:13:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Luny421: I figured that would be the response. It’s a nonissue. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Luny421: Originally Posted By Blacktoothgrin: Threads are behind the taper. I figured that would be the response. It’s a nonissue. I have not seen any engineering data that’s shows which mating location (before or after the threads) offers a more secure connection. IMO, it’s personal preference. Seems the Plan B option just offers more muzzle device options currently which can make it more appealing to some. I like the Gyrex option with the larger mating surface and quick turn threads but it has limited muzzle device options and is proprietary but I guess all the different taper options were proprietary at one point. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 1:10:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QtrHorse: IMO, it’s personal preference. Seems the Plan B option just offers more muzzle device options currently which can make it more appealing to some. You pay your money and you make your choice. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 2:00:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Pretty sure the DD Zilch is the only one close at 1.5 oz, Ecco is at 1.1 oz. ETA: Rearden Atlas Ti is 1.2 oz, I stand corrected Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Originally Posted By dmk0210: That's just a personal preference. All the basic taper mounts work equally well. The differences boil down to FH/Brake/Comp designs available, thread patterns available, aesthetics, tool features, and very slight weight/length differences. Except for thread patterns, these are all just personal preference. Unless there is a Ti mount for Plan B, I doubt it's lighter than these Ti Ecco mounts. Pretty sure the DD Zilch is the only one close at 1.5 oz, Ecco is at 1.1 oz. ETA: Rearden Atlas Ti is 1.2 oz, I stand corrected The Zilch is good for shorter muzzle devices as it pushes forward past the flange that forms the wrench flats. Longer muzzle devices & short blast chambers could run out of space. For a hunting can a Plan A made out of 7075 aluminum would be very light. The smaller hole in a Plan B probably makes it always a touch heavier for the pea under the mattress gram counters. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 2:07:44 PM EDT
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These seem pretty popular
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Posted: 5/4/2024 3:48:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QtrHorse: I have not seen any engineering data that’s shows which mating location (before or after the threads) offers a more secure connection. No, the orientation of the taper surface doesn't matter for retention; it's the diameter and surface area of the taper, and the thread pitch relative to the taper angle. Where that does make a difference is the required size of thread for forward taper; for us to have employed a forward taper of the same diameter with 12 TPI threads, the thread major would have to jump to 1-1/4. Then it wouldn't be compatible with 1.180-24 or 1.125-28 cans unless we made the adapters really long and heavy. As it is, we can put the female threads inside 1.125-28 male threads just like any other 1" thread. As far as weight differences with lager or smaller tapers, whatever you shed on one end you'll pick up on the other. Smaller diameter muzzle device=thicker adapter and vise-versa. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 5:13:53 PM EDT
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So basically tapers are good. Before threads, after threads, it don’t matter. Tapers are good.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:44:39 AM EDT
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Would it be ok to run titanium adapters with steel suppressors? Would mixing titanium and steel give a negative affect? I just got a titanium adapters for my scythe ti which makes sense. But I still need a couple more adapters for other cans. Should I just stick with steel for them?
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:21:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fmkenner: Would it be ok to run titanium adapters with steel suppressors? Would mixing titanium and steel give a negative affect? I just got a titanium adapters for my scythe ti which makes sense. But I still need a couple more adapters for other cans. Should I just stick with steel for them? You can mix steel suppressors and titanium mounts with zero negative effects. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2024 5:06:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: You can mix steel suppressors and titanium mounts with zero negative effects. You don't think the titanium would get too hot in a hard used can? |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:04:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fmkenner: You don't think the titanium would get too hot in a hard used can? The mass and cross-sectional area of the Ti adapters is higher than that of a Ti baffle. It will be fine. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:21:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Luny421: The mass and cross-sectional area of the Ti adapters is higher than that of a Ti baffle. It will be fine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Luny421: Originally Posted By fmkenner: You don't think the titanium would get too hot in a hard used can? The mass and cross-sectional area of the Ti adapters is higher than that of a Ti baffle. It will be fine. Thanks. I'm right in the planning stages, figuring out what mounts I want. I might as well get all titanium adapters while I'm here. |
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