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80's...relics...
Listen here you whippersnapper... That's a pretty good idea. I Iook for odd stuff that catches my eye but never thought to make a list. |
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Had a Leader T2 and to say that it felt like a cheaply made stamped steel last ditch type weapon would be spot on.
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Originally Posted By Cycolac: 80's...relics... Listen here you whippersnapper... That's a pretty good idea. I Iook for odd stuff that catches my eye but never thought to make a list. View Quote Ha I mean relics in a good way! I consider 90s things relics and I was born in 91. But yeah I have a large list that has been years in the making. I always grab shooters bibles and gun digests and whatnot from 1993 and earlier and flip through the values section and look for weirdo stuff. Sometimes those books are the only way to find out about certain guns as online info is scarce and hard to come across in the first place. |
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Look, yes, I have banged HUNDREDS of broads. INTERNATIONALLY. But know this - I wrap my rascal, TWO TIMES, cuz I like it to be joyless and without sensation. It's a way of punishing supermodels.
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That Dmax... I didn't think there was a gun that would perfect express my odd desire for a PCC, but there it is.
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I had Volunteer Arms "Commando 45" it was a cheap Thompson SMG knock off back in the day. I think I paid $135 for it and it used Tommy gun magazines. It was reasonably accurate and reliable. It's now long since sold and gone.
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Neat guns !
One of the reasons I still go to gun shows - looking for weird or unusual stuff. Got 2 coming up the next 2 weekends. |
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"I miss the days of being able to shoot all commies" G.B.
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Don't forget to get a Rhino Piston-driven AR15 - It was a conversion kit you put on an AR15 in the 80s - Perhaps the first commercial project.
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Originally Posted By pug826: I have a thing for obscure 80s guns. I love the weird, unknown or forgotten about relics of a time that I wasn't even around for. The tacti-cool of that era is exactly what I have been focusing my collection on as of late. I used to dig around through vintage Shooter's Bibles of the time and mark any guns I thought were interesting and unique and that I would hunt for in the future. I have a huge list ha, but I have been checking off some of my top list items. In the top here is just a regular NOS Colt A1 upper on a plain Stag lower (will replace with a more period correct lower eventually). Nothing crazy here. Below that is my first dream gun, a pre-ban Daewoo Max II. Not entirely obscure, but obscure enough compared to the AR above it. Below that is my first real obscure gun, my Demro Wasp. I absolutely love the ingenious folding stock on this thing. The fact that's it's a totally legal pre-1982 open bolt semi is just way too cool. Plus, the logo on it is just awesome, with a huge wasp carved right into the metal. I believe less than 2000 Wasp variants were ever made, so they are insanely rare. Likely way less than 2000 actually, as Ian from Forgotten Weapons claimed that 3500 Fox carbines were made in all the configurations, so I assume actually the Wasp being the last of them was made in the smallest numbers. Then under that is my latest pickup, a Dmax 100C 10mm carbine. This thing is heavy and super high quality feeling. A carbine (and a pistol version exists) designed for police forces in the 80s, it never took off. This thing just feels like it was built incredibly well, it's a tank, and those that have shot them say they are incredibly reliable. It utilizes an AK trigger group, a Sten-like bolt, and a firing pin from a 1911 I believe. Also came chambered in .45, 9mm, 41AE. The 10mm uses modified grease gun magazines, so I probably will only ever have this one magazine for it (it's a factory magazine and coated in the same textured finish that the gun's steel is, which reminds me of a truck liner, really durable and just cool on this). Very few of these were made as well, as they were made for a few years in the late 80s into the early 90s, never sold well at all, and the company died with this being their only product. I had to grab this one before Ian made a video on it, staying ahead of the curve ha. Anyway, plenty more to add to this roster (looking at a Leader T2, Federal XC-450 or 900, probably an AR180, Halloway HAC-7, et-cetera. Will be a long while though as I have a Tommybuilt on the way). Thought I would share some weirdo guns that don't get enough recognition (the bottom two here anyway). https://i.imgur.com/x5L2J8F.jpeg View Quote Whatever you do, DO NOT shoot that Demro with a missing, or dried out buffer. They (As well as the Fox carbines) have a nasty habit of breaking the back end off the aluminum receiver |
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I borrowed and had the option to buy a pair of Calico 9mm (Pistol and Carbine)...
I borrowed them for a few months and shot the heck out of them, because they were new to me and Odd... The guy wanted like 700 for the pair and I just didn't have it, so I returned them. Years later, I kinda wished I'd picked them up, more as collectors than shooters... |
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Originally Posted By pug826: I have a thing for obscure 80s guns. I love the weird, unknown or forgotten about relics of a time that I wasn't even around for. The tacti-cool of that era is exactly what I have been focusing my collection on as of late. I used to dig around through vintage Shooter's Bibles of the time and mark any guns I thought were interesting and unique and that I would hunt for in the future. I have a huge list ha, but I have been checking off some of my top list items. In the top here is just a regular NOS Colt A1 upper on a plain Stag lower (will replace with a more period correct lower eventually). Nothing crazy here. Below that is my first dream gun, a pre-ban Daewoo Max II. Not entirely obscure, but obscure enough compared to the AR above it. Below that is my first real obscure gun, my Demro Wasp. I absolutely love the ingenious folding stock on this thing. The fact that's it's a totally legal pre-1982 open bolt semi is just way too cool. Plus, the logo on it is just awesome, with a huge wasp carved right into the metal. I believe less than 2000 Wasp variants were ever made, so they are insanely rare. Likely way less than 2000 actually, as Ian from Forgotten Weapons claimed that 3500 Fox carbines were made in all the configurations, so I assume actually the Wasp being the last of them was made in the smallest numbers. Then under that is my latest pickup, a Dmax 100C 10mm carbine. This thing is heavy and super high quality feeling. A carbine (and a pistol version exists) designed for police forces in the 80s, it never took off. This thing just feels like it was built incredibly well, it's a tank, and those that have shot them say they are incredibly reliable. It utilizes an AK trigger group, a Sten-like bolt, and a firing pin from a 1911 I believe. Also came chambered in .45, 9mm, 41AE. The 10mm uses modified grease gun magazines, so I probably will only ever have this one magazine for it (it's a factory magazine and coated in the same textured finish that the gun's steel is, which reminds me of a truck liner, really durable and just cool on this). Very few of these were made as well, as they were made for a few years in the late 80s into the early 90s, never sold well at all, and the company died with this being their only product. I had to grab this one before Ian made a video on it, staying ahead of the curve ha. Anyway, plenty more to add to this roster (looking at a Leader T2, Federal XC-450 or 900, probably an AR180, Halloway HAC-7, et-cetera. Will be a long while though as I have a Tommybuilt on the way). Thought I would share some weirdo guns that don't get enough recognition (the bottom two here anyway). https://i.imgur.com/x5L2J8F.jpeg View Quote @pug826 I like the cut of your jib. |
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Originally Posted By Villafuego: Whatever you do, DO NOT shoot that Demro with a missing, or dried out buffer. They (As well as the Fox carbines) have a nasty habit of breaking the back end off the aluminum receiver https://i.imgur.com/QYA3wML.jpg View Quote For sure! A huge fear of mine, but luckily mine came with a brand new Delrin buffer from the guy that bought out all the Fox parts |
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Originally Posted By Vellcrow: OP, you need one of these: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56760/e15974_linda_f_jpg-3152967.JPG View Quote The gun and the poster, hell yeah! |
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Originally Posted By norco: Not made in the 80s but a few 80s movies used them. https://live.staticflickr.com/7923/46404288624_c2cef66ac3_c.jpg I keep thinking about selling it, odd shooter but it is interesting. View Quote Ahh the good old High Standard! I used to have a Mossberg Bullpup. I say personally if you already have your go-to ARs and whatnot, then the practical stuff is covered and the interesting stuff is worth holding on to. Everyone and their cat has an SHTF AR, they are boring now and I think the market for weird and rare stuff is gonna boom because of it. |
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Originally Posted By Vellcrow: OP, you need one of these: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56760/e15974_linda_f_jpg-3152967.JPG View Quote |
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Can't never could 'til try came along.
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Originally Posted By smullen: I borrowed and had the option to buy a pair of Calico 9mm (Pistol and Carbine)... I borrowed them for a few months and shot the heck out of them, because they were new to me and Odd... The guy wanted like 700 for the pair and I just didn't have it, so I returned them. Years later, I kinda wished I'd picked them up, more as collectors than shooters... View Quote The Calicos were a blast back then. I never could hold on to one long before selling/trading for something new. Youthful curiosity. |
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Can't never could 'til try came along.
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Originally Posted By osprey21: https://i.postimg.cc/0QRpLjPh/7276739-orig.png View Quote I have always thought this ( the COP 357, I mean) would be a design worth looking into again. (by someone competent) unlike THIS DAMN THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( which would be incredible if someone HONEST, SMART AND FORTHRIGHT ever made it ) See this gun? Say away. Far, far away!!!!!!!!!!!!! Find a super early Pasadena or North Hollywood....but stay away from the new ones. |
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I thought if the Daewoo Rifles when I read the title to the post. I remember daydreaming of having one because I couldn't afford another AR15 and I was curious how it functioned.
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Originally Posted By smullen: I borrowed and had the option to buy a pair of Calico 9mm (Pistol and Carbine)... I borrowed them for a few months and shot the heck out of them, because they were new to me and Odd... The guy wanted like 700 for the pair and I just didn't have it, so I returned them. Years later, I kinda wished I'd picked them up, more as collectors than shooters... View Quote I bought one of those back in the early 2000s from a coworker that was having some issues. I tried to give home more than he was asking but he wouldn’t take it. It came with a couple 100 round and a 50 round mag. It was sort of cool in a way but the novelty wore off pretty quick and I didn’t keep it long. Mine was like this one Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Villafuego: Whatever you do, DO NOT shoot that Demro with a missing, or dried out buffer. They (As well as the Fox carbines) have a nasty habit of breaking the back end off the aluminum receiver https://i.imgur.com/QYA3wML.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Villafuego: Originally Posted By pug826: I have a thing for obscure 80s guns. I love the weird, unknown or forgotten about relics of a time that I wasn't even around for. The tacti-cool of that era is exactly what I have been focusing my collection on as of late. I used to dig around through vintage Shooter's Bibles of the time and mark any guns I thought were interesting and unique and that I would hunt for in the future. I have a huge list ha, but I have been checking off some of my top list items. In the top here is just a regular NOS Colt A1 upper on a plain Stag lower (will replace with a more period correct lower eventually). Nothing crazy here. Below that is my first dream gun, a pre-ban Daewoo Max II. Not entirely obscure, but obscure enough compared to the AR above it. Below that is my first real obscure gun, my Demro Wasp. I absolutely love the ingenious folding stock on this thing. The fact that's it's a totally legal pre-1982 open bolt semi is just way too cool. Plus, the logo on it is just awesome, with a huge wasp carved right into the metal. I believe less than 2000 Wasp variants were ever made, so they are insanely rare. Likely way less than 2000 actually, as Ian from Forgotten Weapons claimed that 3500 Fox carbines were made in all the configurations, so I assume actually the Wasp being the last of them was made in the smallest numbers. Then under that is my latest pickup, a Dmax 100C 10mm carbine. This thing is heavy and super high quality feeling. A carbine (and a pistol version exists) designed for police forces in the 80s, it never took off. This thing just feels like it was built incredibly well, it's a tank, and those that have shot them say they are incredibly reliable. It utilizes an AK trigger group, a Sten-like bolt, and a firing pin from a 1911 I believe. Also came chambered in .45, 9mm, 41AE. The 10mm uses modified grease gun magazines, so I probably will only ever have this one magazine for it (it's a factory magazine and coated in the same textured finish that the gun's steel is, which reminds me of a truck liner, really durable and just cool on this). Very few of these were made as well, as they were made for a few years in the late 80s into the early 90s, never sold well at all, and the company died with this being their only product. I had to grab this one before Ian made a video on it, staying ahead of the curve ha. Anyway, plenty more to add to this roster (looking at a Leader T2, Federal XC-450 or 900, probably an AR180, Halloway HAC-7, et-cetera. Will be a long while though as I have a Tommybuilt on the way). Thought I would share some weirdo guns that don't get enough recognition (the bottom two here anyway). https://i.imgur.com/x5L2J8F.jpeg Whatever you do, DO NOT shoot that Demro with a missing, or dried out buffer. They (As well as the Fox carbines) have a nasty habit of breaking the back end off the aluminum receiver https://i.imgur.com/QYA3wML.jpg Did they ever make any that were full auto? Seems like a weak design. Wonder if the prototypes exploded and that was the quick fix? |
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Originally Posted By desertmoon: @osprey21 I have always thought this ( the COP 357, I mean) would be a design worth looking into again. (by someone competent) unlike THIS DAMN THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( which would be incredible if someone HONEST, SMART AND FORTHRIGHT ever made it ) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/23042/First_Presentation_C_WEB_Size-421589.jpg See this gun? Say away. Far, far away!!!!!!!!!!!!! Find a super early Pasadena or North Hollywood....but stay away from the new ones. View Quote Oh I hear you. |
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Originally Posted By PeteME: Did they ever make any that were full auto? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PeteME: Originally Posted By Villafuego: Originally Posted By pug826: I have a thing for obscure 80s guns. I love the weird, unknown or forgotten about relics of a time that I wasn't even around for. The tacti-cool of that era is exactly what I have been focusing my collection on as of late. I used to dig around through vintage Shooter's Bibles of the time and mark any guns I thought were interesting and unique and that I would hunt for in the future. I have a huge list ha, but I have been checking off some of my top list items. In the top here is just a regular NOS Colt A1 upper on a plain Stag lower (will replace with a more period correct lower eventually). Nothing crazy here. Below that is my first dream gun, a pre-ban Daewoo Max II. Not entirely obscure, but obscure enough compared to the AR above it. Below that is my first real obscure gun, my Demro Wasp. I absolutely love the ingenious folding stock on this thing. The fact that's it's a totally legal pre-1982 open bolt semi is just way too cool. Plus, the logo on it is just awesome, with a huge wasp carved right into the metal. I believe less than 2000 Wasp variants were ever made, so they are insanely rare. Likely way less than 2000 actually, as Ian from Forgotten Weapons claimed that 3500 Fox carbines were made in all the configurations, so I assume actually the Wasp being the last of them was made in the smallest numbers. Then under that is my latest pickup, a Dmax 100C 10mm carbine. This thing is heavy and super high quality feeling. A carbine (and a pistol version exists) designed for police forces in the 80s, it never took off. This thing just feels like it was built incredibly well, it's a tank, and those that have shot them say they are incredibly reliable. It utilizes an AK trigger group, a Sten-like bolt, and a firing pin from a 1911 I believe. Also came chambered in .45, 9mm, 41AE. The 10mm uses modified grease gun magazines, so I probably will only ever have this one magazine for it (it's a factory magazine and coated in the same textured finish that the gun's steel is, which reminds me of a truck liner, really durable and just cool on this). Very few of these were made as well, as they were made for a few years in the late 80s into the early 90s, never sold well at all, and the company died with this being their only product. I had to grab this one before Ian made a video on it, staying ahead of the curve ha. Anyway, plenty more to add to this roster (looking at a Leader T2, Federal XC-450 or 900, probably an AR180, Halloway HAC-7, et-cetera. Will be a long while though as I have a Tommybuilt on the way). Thought I would share some weirdo guns that don't get enough recognition (the bottom two here anyway). https://i.imgur.com/x5L2J8F.jpeg Whatever you do, DO NOT shoot that Demro with a missing, or dried out buffer. They (As well as the Fox carbines) have a nasty habit of breaking the back end off the aluminum receiver https://i.imgur.com/QYA3wML.jpg Did they ever make any that were full auto? |
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You're just another sh!t salesman with a mouthful of samples.
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My entry in the title category is a Charter Arms Explorer II pistol (that shares magazines with a 1970s Armalite AR-7 rifle).
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Some awesome 80's gun in here, from back when I'd waste my days and nights looking at SOF and Shotgun News, instead of chasing after girls, none of whom were interested in me anyway!
Loved the Wasp from when I saw it, like a cross between a Thomson and a MAC. There was a Mossberg bullpup shotgun on EE here that I should have bought, was like 500 bucks or some cheap price. The COP is a great 80's gun too. About worthless, but cool. |
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Nice toys!
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Originally Posted By 1stID: Some awesome 80's gun in here, from back when I'd waste my days and nights looking at SOF and Shotgun News, instead of chasing after girls, none of whom were interested in me anyway. View Quote Lol, you’ve just described my childhood in the 80’s to a tee. Glad I wasn’t the only one.😀 |
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Originally Posted By 1stID: Some awesome 80's gun in here, from back when I'd waste my days and nights looking at SOF and Shotgun News, instead of chasing after girls, none of whom were interested in me anyway! Loved the Wasp from when I saw it, like a cross between a Thomson and a MAC. There was a Mossberg bullpup shotgun on EE here that I should have bought, was like 500 bucks or some cheap price. The COP is a great 80's gun too. About worthless, but cool. View Quote I used to have a Mossberg bullpup! It was so uncomfortable to shoot, but it functioned just fine and was super cool to bring out. The carry handle was terrible, being bolted on to the heat shield. I do regret selling it, it was such a cool piece of shotgun history. |
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Originally Posted By desertmoon: @osprey21 I have always thought this ( the COP 357, I mean) would be a design worth looking into again. (by someone competent) unlike THIS DAMN THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( which would be incredible if someone HONEST, SMART AND FORTHRIGHT ever made it ) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/23042/First_Presentation_C_WEB_Size-421589.jpg See this gun? Say away. Far, far away!!!!!!!!!!!!! Find a super early Pasadena or North Hollywood....but stay away from the new ones. View Quote Those were interesting to me until the Desert Eagle came along, that worked, was a commercial success, and used normal .44 Magnum. The only Automag still interesting to me is the 3 in .30 Carbine. Pointless but would be fun. The 2 has been replaced by the PMR-30. |
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OP needs some Valmet goodness in his '80's "oddball" (in a good way) collection.
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Originally Posted By BM-ARM-DPMS-guns: A “Thomas” .45 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54333/IMG_0308-2829566.jpg AR180 and “Thompson” .22’s https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54333/E7B5E367-5A99-434B-9D99-426F5653FE8A-2700986.jpg Mauser carbine imported by Navy Arms https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54333/4DC4C170-A3AA-4D42-854C-AB4515126FB5-2302643.jpg HK VP70, this one in 9x21 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54333/2E6C983F-CF04-42AD-8D33-136114FE01A4-2299005.jpg View Quote The Thomas is a straight blowback? A predecessor to the HiPoint? Does it at least use 1911 mags? You able to run 9x19mm through your VP70? |
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I totally understand everyone's affection for late 70s to early 90s "oddballs."
Besides movies using one now and then, because it was rare or different on-screen, I think a lot of the love comes from being an early Gen-X kid, and your only info was gun magazines,or maybe a catalog, or a Shotgun News, if you even knew it existed. There was no Internet, and if you weren't very plugged in to people who knew "gun lore" and it was reasonably accurate "gun lore" and not LGS bullshit, like "Mattel M16's" and "The VC could use our ammo in the AK, but we couldn't use theirs..." You had no idea if something was janky crap from beginning to end, or a good idea, but poorly executed, or with cut corners, and QC was a dice roll... Gun magazines certainly weren't in the business of trashing guns they filled the pages with, or, if they did try to subtly warn you, it went right over your head as a kid. So, whatever looked futuristic, weird & different, had extra grips, folding stock, a big protruding magazine... it became your dream gun obsession for the month. And it's not as if you could buy them as a kid, or even really ever saw one in person, if cheap plastic or crude sheet metal would clue you in that it might not be what you imagined from pictures. I also remember seeing the occasional Armi-Jager .22, or even just a Ruger 10/22 all tarted up with the first generation of tacicool Ram-Line stuff, and being in absolute awe. |
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Like most Americans, I learned all I needed to know about the Vietnam War by watching M*A*S*H*...
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Nonne delectaimini? Nonne hoc est quare adsitis?
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Originally Posted By backbencher: The Thomas is a straight blowback? A predecessor to the HiPoint? Does it at least use 1911 mags? You able to run 9x19mm through your VP70? View Quote Yes, similar to most any other guns of its type. It uses proprietary mags. Similar in concept to the Detonics of the time but not 1911 related. I haven’t tried 9x19 in the VP70, i doubt they would headspace properly. |
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I've got a Daewoo and a Calico. I'd love to add a FNC, Leader T2 and AR180 to my collection.
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Looks like a Daewoo K1.
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Originally Posted By BM-ARM-DPMS-guns: P38K, trying to make a pocket pistol from a holster gun, neat but not successful. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54333/IMG_0084-3157961.jpg Wildey’s here! Bronson says so! Neat but not good guns. I only have them because of business dealings with Wil Moore (Wildey) many years ago. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54333/662EE61B-597A-4C5D-936D-EB0AFEF1954A-2057430.jpg View Quote That 38k is begging for a suppressor. |
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Originally Posted By BM-ARM-DPMS-guns: A “Thomas” .45 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54333/IMG_0308-2829566.jpg AR180 and “Thompson” .22’s https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54333/E7B5E367-5A99-434B-9D99-426F5653FE8A-2700986.jpg Mauser carbine imported by Navy Arms https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54333/4DC4C170-A3AA-4D42-854C-AB4515126FB5-2302643.jpg HK VP70, this one in 9x21 I had multiple chances to pick up a VP70 and didn’t. I regret those decisions https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54333/2E6C983F-CF04-42AD-8D33-136114FE01A4-2299005.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By BM-ARM-DPMS-guns: P38K, trying to make a pocket pistol from a holster gun, neat but not successful. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54333/IMG_0084-3157961.jpg Wildey’s here! Bronson says so! Neat but not good guns. I only have them because of business dealings with Wil Moore (Wildey) many years ago. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54333/662EE61B-597A-4C5D-936D-EB0AFEF1954A-2057430.jpg View Quote Wow!!! |
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