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Originally Posted By turboek:
My work in progress, still needs some small parts and a PEQ-15. Hopefully the CRS paperwork doesn't take a long time. https://i.imgur.com/ItpWlQD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6SSvH70.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Rothperson87: Out of curiosity, why’d you go with the CRS over the PRS? Trying to make the same decision. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By eMc9001:
Not who your asking but I'm going with a CRS on my EC. Less weight and it keep's it more like a carbine. If you want more suppression then I'd say the PRS. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By eMc9001:
Originally Posted By Rothperson87: Out of curiosity, why’d you go with the CRS over the PRS? Trying to make the same decision. |
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Originally Posted By eMc9001: Not who your asking but I'm going with a CRS on my EC. Less weight and it keep's it more like a carbine. If you want more suppression then I'd say the PRS. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Rothperson87: Hey I’ll take anyone’s input. I guess that’s the age old question about suppressors; weight/ length vs. suppression. Anyone know how much quieter the PRS is over the CRS? View Quote |
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I personally would recommend the CRS. It's a great suppressor and it's a good size for a lot of dual role SR25 applications.
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Found these numbers in an old thread. Apparently straight from the man Jack himself.
PRS 142db 20.8 oz 9.24" QDC ??? CRS 148db 15.8 oz 6.52" CQB 156db So basically 6db, 5oz and 2.75". They say 140db is "hearing safe" so the PRS is almost there. I know that is completely subjective but it’s something. My AEM5 is the only can I’ve shot that doesn’t ring my ears and I thought I read somewhere that is 136db. Of course this 5.56. |
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Anyone know the military history / designation, anything about the SR25 Match? I’ve read it was deployed to Somalia (around that time).
I’ve seen pictures of it suppressed. Where does it fall in with the Mk11 and it’s cousins? This rifle is the one with the 24 inch unthreaded barrel, threaded gas block. |
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Originally Posted By Steamedliver:
Anyone know the military history / designation, anything about the SR25 Match? I’ve read it was deployed to Somalia (around that time). I’ve seen pictures of it suppressed. Where does it fall in with the Mk11 and it’s cousins? This rifle is the one with the 24 inch unthreaded barrel, threaded gas block. View Quote If so, progress? |
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Originally Posted By Steamedliver:
Anyone know the military history / designation, anything about the SR25 Match? I’ve read it was deployed to Somalia (around that time). I’ve seen pictures of it suppressed. Where does it fall in with the Mk11 and it’s cousins? This rifle is the one with the 24 inch unthreaded barrel, threaded gas block. View Quote |
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The Knight's SR25 in its original 24" barrel mode made its bones in Somalia back then. After action reports by these special operators wanted it shortened to 20" to reduce its overall length with suppressor attached. This we did.
This led to what we called the Special LW Match. That led to the Mk11 format. That led to the M110. By the Mk11 Mod 0 time we had shown enough other companies how to do it, the knockoffs began to proliferate. Our inability to meet our military demands also prevented us from being able to adequately address the commercial side which the knockoffs capitalized on. Same thin happened with the free float RAS's practically to a "T" except they made it a bit oval in cross section...highly imaginative... |
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Thank you Col. Lutz for stopping by and dropping some historical context!
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Originally Posted By coldblue:
The Knight's SR25 in its original 24" barrel mode made its bones in Somalia back then. After action reports by these special operators wanted it shortened to 20" to reduce its overall length with suppressor attached. This we did. This led to what we called the Special LW Match. That led to the Mk11 format. That led to the M110. By the Mk11 Mod 0 time we had shown enough other companies how to do it, the knockoffs began to proliferate. Our inability to meet our military demands also prevented us from being able to adequately address the commercial side which the knockoffs capitalized on. Same thin happened with the free float RAS's practically to a "T" except they made it a bit oval in cross section...highly imaginative... View Quote Thanks for information, for sure. For a little clarification. Did the SR25s with the 24 inch barrel in Somalia have a specific scope? Did the rifle have a specific military designation? Example, if I clone it, did it have a designation? Leading to the Special LW Match. What did the LW stand for? Just curious. Those LW rifles had a 20 inch barrel and gas block attached suppressor? Is that correct? Anything else you can share about that specific platform? I’m going to buy another SR25 Match. I simply like the extended barrel and the history. The current models are amazing as well, but I like the Match versions more. To each their own, right? |
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Originally Posted By coldblue:
The Knight's SR25 in its original 24" barrel mode made its bones in Somalia back then. After action reports by these special operators wanted it shortened to 20" to reduce its overall length with suppressor attached. This we did. This led to what we called the Special LW Match. That led to the Mk11 format. That led to the M110. By the Mk11 Mod 0 time we had shown enough other companies how to do it, the knockoffs began to proliferate. Our inability to meet our military demands also prevented us from being able to adequately address the commercial side which the knockoffs capitalized on. Same thin happened with the free float RAS's practically to a "T" except they made it a bit oval in cross section...highly imaginative... View Quote |
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@coldblue Thanks for information, for sure. For a little clarification. Did the SR25s with the 24 inch barrel in Somalia have a specific scope? Did the rifle have a specific military designation? Example, if I clone it, did it have a designation? I recall a Leupold 10x target scope. I think with tall target turrets. Leading to the Special LW Match. What did the LW stand for? Just curious. Light Weight. Only because it was lighter than the 24-inch match rifle. It was still pretty heavy. Those LW rifles had a 20 inch barrel and gas block attached suppressor? Is that correct? Yes. Precursors to the Mk11Mod0 format and sound suppressor interface. Early, early ones retained the match's round fiberglass forend, then someone asked for little Picatinny rail sections to be added to the end of the forend. I think you can guess that we did next, seeing how we were making the M4 RIS's at the time... KAC still make the little Picatinny sections. They are part of the StandAlone Buttstock assembly. I mean if someone wanted to replicate something...just saying... Anything else you can share about that specific platform? |
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Originally Posted By coldblue:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/19411/25414_Standalone-1287066.jpg This is our StandAlone Buttstock Assy. View Quote I am going to buy another SR25 Match. The one I have looks un fired. Gonna get the other one to shoot. |
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Originally Posted By Steamedliver: I don’t even know what I’m looking at. Lol. I am going to buy another SR25 Match. The one I have looks un fired. Gonna get the other one to shoot. View Quote |
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I picked up another SR25 Match, and the gas block was changed out (so it appears).
No threaded gas block or gate latch gas block, so no way to attach a suppressor. Gah. Anyone know where I can buy a threaded gas block? Like this. Attached File |
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MK11 Mod 0 issued kit, black (unpainted) - $799.95 shipped MK11 Mod 0 issued kit, black (but partially painted) - $799.95 shipped |
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Originally Posted By AZ_SBR:
I don't have a dog in the fight, but enjoy passing along finds that others might appreciate. MK11 Mod 0 issued kit, black (unpainted) - $799.95 shipped MK11 Mod 0 issued kit, black (but partially painted) - $799.95 shipped View Quote |
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It's a good deal, but just know if your barrel is already drilled for a gas block, the chances of those lining up are slim.
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Originally Posted By Steamedliver: I picked up another SR25 Match, and the gas block was changed out (so it appears). No threaded gas block or gate latch gas block, so no way to attach a suppressor. Gah. Anyone know where I can buy a threaded gas block? Like this. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/376732/9AC545BE-82F7-4040-B21D-89B8D6078F75_jpe-1320263.JPG View Quote My 1993 SR-25 Match has the same setup. It is factory installed. It is threaded under the knurled sleeve, but there was never a suppressor made for this setup. Attached File Attached File |
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awesome rifles. Where is the best place to look for a SR-25 Match to modify to a MK11 Mod 0 or M110?
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This is my first post and am excited to announce that I found myself an old school SR-25 Match 24" - pre-ban or what not I do not know. Its mint condition and apparently only had 2 magazines worth of ammo fired through it.
Any idea how to tell the year of manufacture or is it based on the Serial Number? It has the old school Waffle type magazines I am already compiling myself a list of the parts that I "think">??? I want to convert - but as each day goes on I have been changing my thoughts! I am a proud owner of now (3) Knights products! SR-15 14.5 dimpled SR-15 11" urx 4 keymod type |
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Originally Posted By NukeThemTillTheyGlow: awesome rifles. Where is the best place to look for a SR-25 Match to modify to a MK11 Mod 0 or M110? View Quote I’d like to know. Either I build a complete upper to mimic a MK11 Mod 0, or have my upper modified. Mimic meaning exactly that. I’m not looking for a 100% accurate clone. |
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Originally Posted By jrs93accord: My 1993 SR-25 Match has the same setup. It is factory installed. It is threaded under the knurled sleeve, but there was never a suppressor made for this setup. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/Mk11_Mod_0e_JPG-1327756.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/Mk11_Mod_0q_JPG-1327759.JPG View Quote That’s a nice rifle! |
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Originally Posted By NukeThemTillTheyGlow: awesome rifles. Where is the best place to look for a SR-25 Match to modify to a MK11 Mod 0 or M110? View Quote GB or keep an eye out in the EE. Last I knew Geno had a couple, not sure if he sold them or not. I know he has a couple of complete uppers for sale. There’s also a couple front sights, a set of rings and 2 complete kit rifles listed too atm for anyone with pockets deep enough. |
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Originally Posted By Dobs013: GB or keep an eye out in the EE. Last I knew Geno had a couple, not sure if he sold them or not. I know he has a couple of complete uppers for sale. There's also a couple front sights, a set of rings and 2 complete kit rifles listed too atm for anyone with pockets deep enough. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dobs013: Originally Posted By NukeThemTillTheyGlow: awesome rifles. Where is the best place to look for a SR-25 Match to modify to a MK11 Mod 0 or M110? GB or keep an eye out in the EE. Last I knew Geno had a couple, not sure if he sold them or not. I know he has a couple of complete uppers for sale. There's also a couple front sights, a set of rings and 2 complete kit rifles listed too atm for anyone with pockets deep enough. |
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Originally Posted By lmt-ar: https://i.ibb.co/r5V5M8V/6286-AFB2-B7-EA-424-A-945-F-7-C1-E54-CACBCF.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.ibb.co/r5V5M8V/6286-AFB2-B7-EA-424-A-945-F-7-C1-E54-CACBCF.jpg View Quote Beautiful Rifle! |
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Originally Posted By lmt-ar: https://i.ibb.co/r5V5M8V/6286-AFB2-B7-EA-424-A-945-F-7-C1-E54-CACBCF.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.ibb.co/r5V5M8V/6286-AFB2-B7-EA-424-A-945-F-7-C1-E54-CACBCF.jpg View Quote Thats so pretty |
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Originally Posted By lmt-ar: https://i.ibb.co/r5V5M8V/6286-AFB2-B7-EA-424-A-945-F-7-C1-E54-CACBCF.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.ibb.co/r5V5M8V/6286-AFB2-B7-EA-424-A-945-F-7-C1-E54-CACBCF.jpg View Quote Thats just gorgeous. |
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Originally Posted By jrs93accord: My 1993 SR-25 Match has the same setup. It is factory installed. It is threaded under the knurled sleeve, but there was never a suppressor made for this setup. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/Mk11_Mod_0e_JPG-1327756.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/Mk11_Mod_0q_JPG-1327759.JPG View Quote Does anyone know where I can find one of those gas blocks? |
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Originally Posted By bmmc: @jrs93accord are you able to remove the secondary collar? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59663/Mk11_Mod_0e_JPG-1327756_jpeg-1341511.JPG View Quote I have never had any reason to try to remove it. |
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Originally Posted By Teufelhunden1: Thought this would be a good thread to ask since relating to BR’s. @ColdBlue regarding the OG photo attached below, can the Mk11 Mod 0 suppressor actually mate with the 16-inch BR’s? Or is the suppressor on the table a specific design similar to the limited run of EM carbine suppressors? https://i.imgur.com/ijuqOxy.jpg View Quote I want that 14.5" BR real bad |
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That secondary collar (nut) is removable, by pressing in the spring loaded detent and rotating the nut counter-clockwise. If it does not loosen easily, like with a strap wrench, I would recommend making a spanner that engages the cut-outs in the same manner as an M16 barrel nut wrench.
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If memory serves me, that was a specially designed suppressor for that barrel length. Remembering that inside a Mk11 type suppressor is a close tolerance surface that interfaces with a close tolerance surface at the end of the barrel, or in this case the muzzle device, that would be the case here. I mean have you ever noticed that the very end of a Mk11Mod0 barrel is a different shade of black than the moly-coat on the rest of the barrel...?
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Received, thank you sir!
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