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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:05:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhoule: You can swap the stock for a benelli comfort tech 2 stock if you can find one. Also the technique in the link below https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2023/06/24/shoot-shotgun-faster-symtac-consulting/ |
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SOM
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Posted: 4/18/2024 11:05:09 AM EDT
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The Comforttec stock goes for $300+ when you find them on their own. Better off just getting a limbsaver recoil pad.
Also, to help the gun function with light target loads, DON'T pull it in hard to your shoulder but shoulder it lightly. The lighter the gun is held, the more the action can cycle with lighter loads. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 11:36:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blain: The Comforttec stock goes for $300+ when you find them on their own. Better off just getting a limbsaver recoil pad. Also, to help the gun function with light target loads, DON'T pull it in hard to your shoulder but shoulder it lightly. The lighter the gun is held, the more the action can cycle with lighter loads. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 5:50:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhoule: Yup. M4x.7 screws is what it was. Were you able to find M4x.7 screws that allowed you to mount the Scalarworks Sync/01 on the MAC 1014? I just tried to install one, and when I realized the screws were a different spec, I searched to see if anyone else had this issue and found your post. Not thrilled with SDS Imports right now. Thanks for any additional info you might have. |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 8:01:39 PM EDT
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Yes. I ordered an assortment off Amazon. I had to grind a couple thread lengths off the screw to keep them flush. But that was the appropriate thread pitch.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:31:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhoule: Yes. I ordered an assortment off Amazon. I had to grind a couple thread lengths off the screw to keep them flush. But that was the appropriate thread pitch. Thanks |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 1:20:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Brawnydog]
[#7]
Are any of y'all using a sling on the wood guns? I was thinking about a no-drill sling, but then again, I'm not sure I need a sling on what will likely be home use only.
What are your thoughts? Edit: nevermind, I see in the pics it has sling attachments. |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 11:51:42 PM EDT
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Ernest Langdon has some opinions about that.
He is firmly in the NO SLINGS ON SHOTGUNS for home defense camp. https://youtu.be/Cp1CqLgwb-M?si=ZyiN5CSXwe9e9k7K&t=2512  Why Shotguns? - Feat Langdon Tactical |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 12:00:10 AM EDT
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The MAC 1014 has an "Uncle Mikes" type QD stud on the buttstock, and it has a metal loop thing on the front, attached to the hardware forward of the handguard.
Not a great arrangment if you care about actual QD. Maybe you could attach the sling at the front with a quick-release loop knot. There are various flavors you can google. A barrel clamp with a QD pushbutton recess would probably be a better option. I saw a guy on another forum who drilled his wood stock, and stuck a QD pushbutton recess in the hole with epoxy. Fiddling with that Uncle Mike's QD release with gloves or under stress could be fucked up. Its a "release," but not very QD if you don't get your hand on it just so, and hold your mouth just right. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 3:04:35 AM EDT
[#10]
Cool, that'll save a few bucks on the setup.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 10:18:23 PM EDT
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My MAC 2 came in to my FFL today, but I didn't have time to pick it up. Now it'll be Thursday before I can get it.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 5:30:57 PM EDT
[#12]
Got it in, I'll upload pics tomorrow if I get a chance. Until then I was going to replace the magazine tube with the extension:
https://battlehawkarmory.com/product/mac-80041056-m2-extension-12ga-6-mac-2 The attached tube is not wanting to come off, at least not by hand. Any tips on getting the old tube off so I can put on the extension? |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 6:17:57 PM EDT
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Only one of the Wal-Mart stores close to me continues to have the Winchester bulk-pack Universal 12ga shells on "clearance" yet they still continue to get them in. The sale guy and I are now best friends lol. The other stores have them but they are not showing as "clearance" so they won't honor the price despite showing them my receipts from previous purchases.
In addition to scoring seven more bulk-packs I also bought all the Nitro Turkey 1 1/2oz #5 loads they had at just $5 a box, also on clearance... I bought all 37 boxes. That's $12.50 per box of 25, a great price for a hard-hitting 12ga payload IMO.  Gotta pump up those numbers... the bulk-packs run perfectly in my MAC 1014. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 8:35:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Brawnydog]
[#14]
The MAC 2's that I've seen online always have the shorter magazine tube. Mine came with an extended magazine tube, but it's a faux one.
 Edit 4/26: I ended up turning that faux extendo into a plus 2, and I mean barely a plus 2. When I went to put in an eighth round that 7th wouldn't budge. This is for 2 3/4" shells only. When I decided to unfaux the magazine my plan was just to push the round limiter to the end of the tube as a spring retainer with my press. That just ended up breaking the limiter, which was plastic. Then I decided to use the retainer from the extended tube that I didn't end up using. Well, the present magazine tube has a recessed area inside that I had to file down with a round file. Took some work, but I ended up with a plus 2 magazine in the end. Now it's 7 plus one 2 3/4". |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 7:23:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Brawnydog]
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Shot the MAC 2 today. I wanted to have a base line of what to expect for reliability.
I shot about 75 rounds of 2 3/4 field loads, stated 1350 fps. It was Monarch so how accurate that is. Had one malfunction: a failure to load after extraction. I looked at it briefly, wish I would have looked more closely, but I just bumped the charging handle and it went home just fine. The first couple of boxes were with the cyl choke. Others were Buck Kicker Smoke in Skeet and the full that is in the box. I was hoping the butt kicker would make the recoil disappear, but at no point did it really kick like a mule at all. Of course, that's not 3-in Magnums or any high velocity rounds. There toward the end I shot a few 2 3/4 00 buck. I'm very pleased and it will be a miracle if I don't get another. I know for a fact I'd get a 1014 if one ever came back in stock. Oh, there was one other issue. I placed a shot and it went way left, especially for as close as I was to the target. The front sight has come loose. No biggie, just center and tighten the tiny nut in the bottom. Well, it didn't take much torque and it stripped. I was able to turn the nut around to get the threads to grab onto the one or two threads it could grab upside down, but it got loose again. I think if I locktite it I'll be ok, so I'll try that when I get a chance. Tldr, I love this gun. Get you one. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 9:39:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brawnydog: Got it in, I'll upload pics tomorrow if I get a chance. Until then I was going to replace the magazine tube with the extension: https://battlehawkarmory.com/product/mac-80041056-m2-extension-12ga-6-mac-2 The attached tube is not wanting to come off, at least not by hand. Any tips on getting the old tube off so I can put on the extension? Heat, you have to melt the sealant holding it in. A heat gun works fine. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:36:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Brawnydog]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By snuffy19608: Heat, you have to melt the sealant holding it in. A heat gun works fine. I finally realized that the plus 6 magazine tube Battlehawk and others are selling is a true plus 6 as in it screws into the end of the magazine that comes just past the handguard. With that setup the magazine extension would go 2 or 3 inches past the end of the barrel and I didn't want that look. 5 plus 1 is plenty for my needs, especially when you add the plus one of a ghost load. I forgot to add in my last post/ review that you're going to want to have some blue locktite nearby. The front sight, the barrel band, and the faux mag extension kept getting loose. I just checked the rear sight. It was ok, but the rail on top had loose screws. Not a big deal, just something to keep an eye on and address. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:59:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: snuffy19608]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By W_E_G: Ernest Langdon has some opinions about that. He is firmly in the NO SLINGS ON SHOTGUNS for home defense camp. https://youtu.be/Cp1CqLgwb-M?si=ZyiN5CSXwe9e9k7K&t=2512  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp1CqLgwb-MI agree with Mr. Langdon. I got enough problems moving my old notasfatasitusedtobe ass around without adding a strap that's gonna catch on things. If you're going on a hike, or carrying a lot of kit, that's one situation where a sling is a good idea. But in my situation, to pick it up from against the wall by the bed, take 2 steps and open the bedroom door, that's different. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 11:28:33 PM EDT
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I wonder if Battlehawk will ever get them back in stock.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 1:02:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tommyd11730: I wonder if Battlehawk will ever get them back in stock. I hope not... I don't need three... 
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Posted: 5/6/2024 3:55:38 PM EDT
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Still looking for a set of MAC 2 wood furniture.
Let's go MAC! 
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Posted: 5/8/2024 8:36:07 AM EDT
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Latest evolution
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:06:53 PM EDT
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Got mine this afternoon, ran a dozen rounds of 00 buck shot thru it without any problems, love it and can't wait to shoot it more.
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Posted: 5/10/2024 6:16:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brawnydog: Latest evolution https://i.ibb.co/87DQpYj/PXL-20240507-171850896.jpg https://i.ibb.co/8s0JVKV/PXL-20240507-171904209.jpg The grain on your fore end looks to be even better than most of these I've seen. Got any close-up pics? |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:48:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Brawnydog]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BPR: The grain on your fore end looks to be even better than most of these I've seen. Got any close-up pics? Edit: pics  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 3:08:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tommyd11730: I wonder if Battlehawk will ever get them back in stock. @Tommyd11730 They are back in stock. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 4:38:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bowhntr6pt: @Tommyd11730 They are back in stock. Resist |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 4:48:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brawnydog: Must Resist Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brawnydog: Originally Posted By Bowhntr6pt: @Tommyd11730 They are back in stock. Resist Do it. You know you want to. 
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Posted: 5/10/2024 5:21:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane: Do it. You know you want to. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 6:43:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brawnydog: I do, but the angel on my shoulder is telling me to pay off what I already have first! The pistol grip blued version is $319 when you add it to the cart... that's an insanely cheap price for a SG that functions as these do. I'm fighting the temptation of getting a third one... the wood stock one. A few more bourbons tonight and I just might do it... those are really nice looking SG's. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 4:17:58 PM EDT
[#31]
Yes, had one in my cart. Just put $400 in tires on my commuter car. :(
So much for a new shotty. |
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Posted: 5/15/2024 10:59:18 AM EDT
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The problem with buying new $319 shotguns is accessorizing them. extended mag, dot sight, maybe a Mesa tactical stock and forend... you've now spent more on accessories than the gun itself.
On the other hand I've seen waves of imports and surplus come and go. These turkey deals aren't going to last forever. Strong USD/weak Turkish monopoly money is nice for the consumer. Speaking of Turkey I need to get a turkey choke for this gun. With the dot sight it'll make a great turkey gun! |
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Posted: 5/15/2024 1:22:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PovertyPonies: The problem with buying new $319 shotguns is accessorizing them. extended mag, dot sight, maybe a Mesa tactical stock and forend... you've now spent more on accessories than the gun itself. The base cost of a firearm is many times just a small part of the total package expense. Many final firearm projects, once add-ons are totaled up, generally exceed the base cost of the firearm. A decent long range rifle set up for example with a base cost for the rifle at $1K will certainly end up at 2x or more of the initial expense after adding a nice scope, rings, mounts, and bi-pod, etc. Same can be said with a basic RDS equipped pistol with a decent light. When I add stuff to a firearm, the base cost of the firearm rarely enters the picture (not putting a $1K Leupold on a Ruger 10/22)... the actual results of how the additional parts will improve performance, comfort, and capabilities of the firearm in general are my primary concerns. On one of my MAC's I added a Delta Point Pro (off the EE), Mesa forend, Mesa side saddle, extended tube, and a US made hammer and I'm still under $1K for a bad ass SG that shoots every bit as good as one costing 3x as much or more base cost. I can't speak for any of the other clones... but the MAC SG's performance warrant adding the quality aftermarket parts despite having a VERY INEXPENSIVE base cost. |
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Posted: 5/15/2024 3:43:38 PM EDT
[#34]
Well I messed up while I was in Palmetto State Armory and looked at their panzer M4 clone. Long story short, I now have a Mac 1014 coming.
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Posted: 5/15/2024 5:43:50 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brawnydog: Well I messed up while I was in Palmetto State Armory and looked at their panzer M4 clone. Long story short, I now have a Mac 1014 coming. LOL... I think you will be quite happy with your purchase, especially if you got it for under $350.00. |
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Posted: 5/15/2024 7:10:37 PM EDT
[#36]
Do the nickel coated MAC 1014 Marines have nickel coated gas pistons / internals as well? Or are they blued like on the standard model?
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Posted: 5/15/2024 8:38:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bowhntr6pt]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blain: Do the nickel coated MAC 1014 Marines have nickel coated gas pistons / internals as well? Or are they blued like on the standard model? While I didn't really pay attention when I swapped out the hammers on my MAC's, I want to say I didn't see a difference... what specifically are you wondering about? @Blain A pain in the ass, but I took both apart... pics below. Piston Housing Blue...  Marine...  Trigger Group Right/Left Blue...   Marine...   Bolt Blue...  Marine... 
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Posted: 5/15/2024 11:19:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Brawnydog]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bowhntr6pt: LOL... I think you will be quite happy with your purchase, especially if you got it for under $350.00. |
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Posted: 5/16/2024 12:06:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bowhntr6pt: While I didn't really pay attention when I swapped out the hammers on my MAC's, I want to say I didn't see a difference... what specifically are you wondering about? @Blain A pain in the ass, but I took both apart... pics below. Piston Housing Blue... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q70/924/GYzeli.jpg Marine... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q70/922/804cgO.jpg Trigger Group Right/Left Blue... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q70/923/SGRkIg.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q70/922/PMWk8V.jpg Marine... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q70/924/C9NCEg.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q70/924/vmHXBI.jpg Bolt Blue... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q70/924/6qa7JL.jpg Marine... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q70/924/BcIQFn.jpg Thanks for posting that! |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 4:15:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Brawnydog]
[#40]
What's a good front sight post for the MAC 2 (and I guess 1014)?
My front sight post stripped when I was adjusting it. I can only assume the 1014 i'm about to get is just as soft. I'd like a stock dot sight, but will consider others as long as they are not looking for a reason to strip out. Edit: I found this, but not sure if legit (web)site or not. https://saricamusa.com/p-131-front-sight-post.html https://saricamusa.com/p-131-front-sight-post.html |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 4:24:29 PM EDT
[#41]
I replaced mine with tritium night sight ones for a Benelli M4. They worked in all the other Turknelli's I have.
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Posted: 5/20/2024 7:02:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bowhntr6pt]
[#42]
Added some lights and slings... RM2's and MagPul MS1's.
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Posted: 5/22/2024 10:39:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Brawnydog]
[#43]
Something to note about cleaning/disassembling the, or at least my, MAC 1014. I watched a Mr Gunsngear video on cleaning the Benelli M4, and he used the charging handle to turn the gas tubes to remove them. Two observations:
1. The charging handle (on mine) was very hard to remove. So hard that I thought I was doing something wrong like that the bolt had to be in a certain position in the receiver. No, you just have to pull hard, real hard. B) the charging handle can not be used to remote be the tubes. The gas tube holes are too small for the charging handle, or the charging handle is too big. Whatever the case, this is at least one difference from the Benelli M4. Well damn. The gas tube broke as I was removing it. This doesn't bode well. I had already removed and cleaned the other one. There is some kind of thread goop on each one. I doubt that is per Benelli specs.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 11:04:49 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brawnydog: Something to note about cleaning/disassembling the, or at least my, MAC 1014. I watched a Mr Gunsngear video on cleaning the Benelli M4, and he used the charging handle to turn the gas tubes to remove them. Two observations: 1. The charging handle (on mine) was very hard to remove. So hard that I thought I was doing something wrong like that the bolt had to be in a certain position in the receiver. No, you just have to pull hard, real hard. B) the charging handle can not be used to remote be the tubes. The gas tube holes are too small for the charging handle, or the charging handle is too big. Whatever the case, this is at least one difference from the Benelli M4. Well damn. The gas tube broke as I was removing it. This doesn't bode well. I had already removed and cleaned the other one. There is some kind of thread goop on each one. I doubt that is per Benelli specs. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/497860/1000001004_jpg-3220655.JPG You had the exact same issue with it as I did! |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 11:11:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bowhntr6pt]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blain: You had the exact same issue with it as I did! I've yet to attempt to remove mine... when I do, I think I'm going to heat it up some prior to putting force to it. I'm also going to find something that fits the hole as close as possible. ETA- just spoke to someone at SDS and he said to apply heat to break the tread lock compound and doing so does not void the warranty. |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 11:47:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Brawnydog]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bowhntr6pt: I've yet to attempt to remove mine... when I do, I think I'm going to heat it up some prior to putting force to it. I'm also going to find something that fits the hole as close as possible. ETA- just spoke to someone at SDS and he said to apply heat to break the tread lock compound and doing so does not void the warranty. Edit: I just hollered at them. |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 11:49:34 AM EDT
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Only one of the gas piston had a substance on the threads. I used a heavy punch which was a good fit to the holes to get it loose. The other piston was easy to turn to loosen. Both went back together with no issue. My charging handle was pretty difficult to remove. I looked a the owners manual a couple times to make sure I was doing things right. I didn’t remove my trigger group but I’ve only cleaned my MAC 1014 once.
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Posted: 5/22/2024 12:02:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VASCAR2: Only one of the gas piston had a substance on the threads. I used a heavy punch which was a good fit to the holes to get it loose. The other piston was easy to turn to loosen. Both went back together with no issue. My charging handle was pretty difficult to remove. I looked a the owners manual a couple times to make sure I was doing things right. I didn't remove my trigger group but I've only cleaned my MAC 1014 once. |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 12:05:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Blain]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bowhntr6pt: I've yet to attempt to remove mine... when I do, I think I'm going to heat it up some prior to putting force to it. I'm also going to find something that fits the hole as close as possible. ETA- just spoke to someone at SDS and he said to apply heat to break the tread lock compound and doing so does not void the warranty. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bowhntr6pt: Originally Posted By Blain: You had the exact same issue with it as I did! I've yet to attempt to remove mine... when I do, I think I'm going to heat it up some prior to putting force to it. I'm also going to find something that fits the hole as close as possible. ETA- just spoke to someone at SDS and he said to apply heat to break the tread lock compound and doing so does not void the warranty. So let me get this straight. It is MAC that is thread locking the gas plugs in place?  I bought it pre-owned, and thought the prior owner did it because he was a moron! No wonder people are breaking the plugs (which seems to be made out of a pretty weak / cheap metal). Seems like the one flaw in this system! |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 12:23:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blain: So let me get this straight. It is MAC that is thread locking the gas plugs in place? I bought it pre-owned, and thought the prior owner did it because he was a moron! No wonder people are breaking the plugs (which seems to be made out of a pretty weak / cheap metal). Seems like the one flaw in this system! Yes, it appears when the SG's are assembled thread locker compound is used. I think HRFunk's review video discusses this. Adding a little heat to get them off isn't a big deal to me. |
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