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Originally Posted By KB7DX: Or having the family dog lap them up off the floor. If you lose the plastic retainer strap for the primer catch tray you can make one out of thin steel wire to hold it. See yellow MS Paint drawing below.. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/108158/bib-3110105.jpg My gifted Rockchucker from the 80's didn't have any retainer so I made one from stainless steel safety wire. View Quote Wow, I hope your pooch survived. Great tip, thanks! |
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Originally Posted By Cascade-Dude: Decapping again, this time with ... a primer cup. View Quote An option for those presses that don't have one is to put a tall round rubbish bin under the press. My Redding T-7 has a plastic tube you can run straight down into a waste basket. |
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Originally Posted By Sinister: I didn't know they had a spent primer cup. An option for those presses that don't have one is to put a tall round rubbish bin under the press. My Redding T-7 has a plastic tube you can run straight down into a waste basket. View Quote My big boss2 seems to like to drop the primers forward and on to the floor sometimes instead of falling in to the tube. Moderately annoying. |
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Before I got the cup, I did it the sailor way. Make a mess then clean it up.
The shell holder I need to de-cap 6.55 Grendel, .38 spl, and .357 mag arrived just now. When I get back from the gym, I'll get to work de-capping the rest of my brass. Is there anything different about de-capping pistol brass compared to rifle brass I should know before de-capping them? I'm guessing not but why guess when I can ask? The small primer tube arrived today too. I'll give it a quick test fit before I commence to de-capping in a rapid and expeditious military manner. |
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Originally Posted By Cascade-Dude: Before I got the cup, I did it the sailor way. Make a mess then clean it up. The shell holder I need to de-cap 6.55 Grendel, .38 spl, and .357 mag arrived just now. When I get back from the gym, I'll get to work de-capping the rest of my brass. Is there anything different about de-capping pistol brass compared to rifle brass I should know before de-capping them? I'm guessing not but why guess when I can ask? The small primer tube arrived today too. I'll give it a quick test fit before I commence to de-capping in a rapid and expeditious military manner. View Quote |
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Why can't I remember to lift the ram a bit before trying to change the shell holder? 6.5mm Grendel brass de-capped. Got started on the .357 but it's time to go swim laps so I'll have to finish up later. Then I have to decide whether to go shooting this afternoon or work on the bench. The way I feel now, I'll be going to the range. That may change after several hundreds of yards of swimming. |
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I am getting the hang of de-capping. I'm now using one thumb and two fingers on either side of the press handle when I'm de-capping. I don't wrap any of them around the handle. I find that this gives me plenty of grip to de-cap while making it hard to put too much force in it. It also gives me a better feel of how much force each primer takes to pop out. I've also developed a nice four-step rhythm that helps me make sure I'm not shortcutting the steps. Raise the ram, make a positive stop when it seats on the prime, add steady controlled pressure until it pops, lower the ram.
Nothing about reloading seems to benefit from "slamming and jamming." I think if I keep my focus on making sure I'm being gentle whenever metal meets metal, and don't apply the force needed to complete the process until I'm sure there is good contact, I'll have a better chance of avoiding at least some bad things. Precision before productivity is how I'm trying to proceed. I have two weeks to get my bench built and finished, make sure I have everything I need, and otherwise get my act together. I'll have a case trimmer in about 17 days and I want to get to work on case prep so I can continue developing my 55-grain V-max load as soon as I get it all home. I'm going through the reloading instructions in the Lyman 51 to make sure I have what I need. I have time tomorrow slotted for working on the bench. I'm hoping to get the upper and lower frame completed, at least. Legs on would be great. |
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Keep up the good work.
It's ok to have your whole hand on the press handle at all times. The time for finesse is when you prime. You want to be able to feel the primer bottom out in the primer pocket, then stop pushing. |
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Thanks! I'm on it.
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Originally Posted By Cascade-Dude: Finding time to work on my bench has become as challenging as a unicorn hunt. My wife and I flip houses and this is the busy time of year; getting ready for the annual Spring sales boom. But I think I have enough of my schedule cleared for today to do everything except the finish. Upper frame laid out and ready to start screwing together. The lower frame is mostly cut and ready too. I'm holding off cutting the last couple of pieces until I have the rest of it together, so I can measure the actual spans I still need to brace to make sure the size is spot-on. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/582146/Bench-Frame-1-3128971.jpg View Quote Dry (before glue) fit; Put joint together, drill one screw hole, screw in screw about 3/4 way in or so. Back out until only 1/8 of the tip shows. After glue is applied; Then place 2x4 in place, the screw end will guide the screw to the same hole. Drive it all the way in. Second screw is just drill/drive and the joint will be right where you want it. Repeat for every joint. Support layout looks good. Remember you cannot overbuild a reloading bench. eta, did you see the pic of your Rockchucker in my funshow thread? |
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Originally Posted By dryflash3: Remember to use wood glue. Dry (before glue) fit; Put joint together, drill one screw hole, screw in screw about 3/4 way in or so. Back out until only 1/8 of the tip shows. 1) "Screw hole:" True or false, please: On the piece being attached, I'm drilling a hole through it that is matched to the shank diameter of the screw, 3/16" for A #10. And a pilot hole in the piece being attached to, 3/32" for a #10 in softwood. After glue is applied; Then place 2x4 in place, the screw end will guide the screw to the same hole. Drive it all the way in. Second screw is just drill/drive and the joint will be right where you want it. Repeat for every joint. Support layout looks good. Remember you cannot overbuild a reloading bench. I'm trying as best I can. It's going to have four legs, all 4x4's. It might look a little funny but purpose-built is purpose-built so here goes. My plan is to have the front legs asymmetrical, left-to-right, with the two front right legs being only about 11" apart, with the press mount in between them. On the left side, inner left leg will be placed normally, leaving almost three feet of knee/foot space and access to the lower shelves. I'm going to have adjustable feet on all eight legs to make sure its level and can handle any wonkiness caused by the offset leg. 2) Speaking of overbuilding, I'm going to use #10 x 3" for all these joints. Are they too large? Due to their size, I'm making a 1x4 template with the holes measured out, to make it as easy as possible to get the screws going into the end of a 2x4 into the meat of the wood. eta, did you see the pic of your Rockchucker in my funshow thread? View Quote Thanks! Please see my questions in blue, above. No, I didn't see the pics in your funshow thread ... yet. As soon as I post this, I'm on it. Very cool! |
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Originally Posted By Cascade-Dude: Thanks! Please see my questions in blue, above. No, I didn't see the pics in your funshow thread ... yet. As soon as I post this, I'm on it. Very cool! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Cascade-Dude: Originally Posted By dryflash3: Remember to use wood glue. Dry (before glue) fit; Put joint together, drill one screw hole, screw in screw about 3/4 way in or so. Back out until only 1/8 of the tip shows. 1) "Screw hole:" True or false, please: On the piece being attached, I'm drilling a hole through it that is matched to the shank diameter of the screw, 3/16" for A #10. And a pilot hole in the piece being attached to, 3/32" for a #10 in softwood. After glue is applied; Then place 2x4 in place, the screw end will guide the screw to the same hole. Drive it all the way in. Second screw is just drill/drive and the joint will be right where you want it. Repeat for every joint. Support layout looks good. Remember you cannot overbuild a reloading bench. I'm trying as best I can. It's going to have four legs, all 4x4's. It might look a little funny but purpose-built is purpose-built so here goes. My plan is to have the front legs asymmetrical, left-to-right, with the two front right legs being only about 11" apart, with the press mount in between them. On the left side, inner left leg will be placed normally, leaving almost three feet of knee/foot space and access to the lower shelves. I'm going to have adjustable feet on all eight legs to make sure its level and can handle any wonkiness caused by the offset leg. 2) Speaking of overbuilding, I'm going to use #10 x 3" for all these joints. Are they too large? Due to their size, I'm making a 1x4 template with the holes measured out, to make it as easy as possible to get the screws going into the end of a 2x4 into the meat of the wood. eta, did you see the pic of your Rockchucker in my funshow thread? Thanks! Please see my questions in blue, above. No, I didn't see the pics in your funshow thread ... yet. As soon as I post this, I'm on it. Very cool! I use a #40 bit for #8 screws. You would want a #30 bit for #10 screws. Fraction drills are fine, I worked at Boeing for years and number drill were used there. Look at screw, you want the bit the same diameter as the shank, the threads are attached to the shank to increase the diameter. A tiny bit smaller would be ok. You can tell when you drive them. Go in too hard=undersized hole. To easy, bit too big. Pro tip, if you mess up a hole, glue in a tooth pick, let dry and redrill. #10 screws are fine 3" is fine at the legs. 2x4 to 2x4 all you really need there is 2 1/2. But if you have plenty of 3", use them everywhere. |
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Thanks! I'll start with a 1/8" bit to drill both pieces. It's a tiny bit smaller than a #30; 0.125" versus 0.1285". Three and a half thousandths shouldn't matter that much in soft wood, I'm guessing.
I went with MinWax's Gunstock color for the stain. My construction lumber is pretty rough so I got some MinWax paintable filler too. And three grades of sandpaper for prepping it before finishing. I'm selecting the best surfaces for the exposed parts. The 4x4's I'm using for the legs are sappy. I'll clean it up as much as I can, sand it down, clean it up again, and hide the worst spots by facing them towards the inside of the bench. |
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Drill size good.
Have some of that stain, nice shade. |
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1. No glue if you want it to be removable. Screw the 2x4 to the 4x4. 2 screws each location where 2x4's and 4x4's meet.
2. 1x6, short uprights. 3. My 2 bottom shelfs have room to stack 3 die boxes on top of another. Bullets can also be stored on these shelfs. Make shelf higher than that on 3 rd shelf. Just depends on what you want to put on them. I like bullet boxes on the higher shelfs, so stack a couple on top of each other and measure them. Glad you are happy with your tools and powder. The trickler, I removed the tube with the plastic parts scuffed up the inside and poured molten lead in the bottom. Trickler was designed for this. I have done this mod now about a dozen times for me, friends, and students. |
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Thanks!
I am as happy as a clam in deep mud at high tide! So happy, I almost feel guilty. It's like I'm not paying my reloading dues by struggling with cheap gear and hand-trimming thousands of cases. I'll try to mitigate that guilt by being safe, diligent, and always keeping a keen eye on every detail. I have two hours before I leave to go the the gym, so I'm going to work on the bench until then. Time to assemble both frames with the legs. If that goes well, I'll be sanding it later today and maybe staining it tonight. |
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It's just how I roll to get my students off to a good start.
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Life has been busy but I finally got back to reloading. I am so frustrated with the poor quality of my construction of both the upper and lower frames that I am taking them apart, replacing some of the pieces, and putting them back together again. I'm going to make a clamp-jig for my miter saw so all the ribs will be the same length. The biggest problem was ribs that twisted while I was securing them. The cumulative effect was to torque both frames such that nether of them was even close to being flat. When I test fit the legs, it was wobble city even tough the legs are equal lengths. Like over an inch, wobble. So I'm going to do what needs to be done to fix the root cause rather than trying to fix the symptoms. My framing skills aren't serving me well here but I'll get it right this time and learn something in the process. So good deal, eh?
No pics. I'll post more pics when I get it right. |
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"Call a magazine a clip again. I dare you, I double dare you mother******, call a magazine a clip one more ******* time!"
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"Call a magazine a clip again. I dare you, I double dare you mother******, call a magazine a clip one more ******* time!"
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I realized today that I made a mistake when cleaning brass. I didn't separate out the 25 rounds I loaded during DryFlash's training. So I now have 25 twice-fired rounds mixed in with about 400 once-fired rounds. I'm not too worried about it at this stage. Once I have a load dialed in, I'm going to load a bunch of it for long-term storage. I plan to get my new brass from bulk purchases of inexpensive target ammo, like PMC X-TAC.
I realized that I should have kept those three batches of brass (3 different work-up loads) separated all the way through the process, so that my case inspection could be correlated to a specific load. Lesson re-learned. I'm guessing that once they've passed case inspection, I can then mix them in with other brass of the same caliber that has been fired the same number of times? |
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Originally Posted By Cascade-Dude: Case Inspection, .300 BO, Lake City brass, from factory Winchester 170 grain XP ammo. I don't think there's anything of concern here but wanted to poste my thinking anyway. 1) Four cases. Only the one on the left has anything questionable on it. Virtually all of the Lake City 300 BO brass has one or two rings impressed around the top of the neck. None of the AAC 300 BO brass has this. I don't think it's cause for concern. My guess it has something to do with the bullets are retained in the case at the factory. Note the minor scratch on the case on the left, below the neck. Another pic of that coming below. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/582146/Lake_City_300_BO_Brass-3154857.jpg 2) A closer shot of the rings around the necks. Are those extractor marks on the side of the neck? They clearly belong there since i see them on all fired cases. Just curious. I'm curious about the dimple on the case on the right, on the shoulder. My guess is it's from contact with something on the rifle on its way out? I see these dimples on most, if not all cases, though in different places. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/582146/LC_Brass_Double_Scratches-3154858.jpg 3) A grayscale version on the case on the left in the first pc. The scratch is easier to see. I don't think it's cause for concern because it doesn't penetrate? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/582146/Case_Scratch_Closeup_Grayscale-3154856.jpg 4) A slightly-squashed case neck. I've always assumed this was caused by the case landing on the neck. I understand it's not a big deal as long as it doesn't interfere with the dies. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/582146/Case_Neck-3154859.jpg Thanks! Time to get back to work on the bench. View Quote I have never seen those neck marks on cases before. Not sure how the extractor would contact the case neck. If scratch isn't deep, it's of no concern. Deformed case mouth will be reformed when run through the sizing die. Good luck with your bench. |
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I've discovered that the factory .300 BO ammo I have stockpiled, AAC 110-grain v-max, doesn't feed reliably under rapid fire. It's too short. So my stockpile is now range ammo. As a result, I think I'm going to start reloading .300 BO first when I get my bench done, rather than .223. My stockpile of .223 runs just fine. I want to make sure I know what caliber-specific things I need to order so I can be ready to go. Here's what I've got on my list:
Hornady Custom-Grade New Dimension 2-die set in .300 BO Hornady Micro-Juster Lyman M-Die in .300 BO Case go/no-go Gauge in .300 BO Shell holders for the press and trimmer will work on .300 BO. Am I missing anything? Thanks. |
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I got started on my second attempt at building a bench. The lumber is cut and ready to be dry-fitted. I paid a lot closer attention to my lumber selection and my cuts. I will do the same with assembly as well.
I'm used to adjusting alignment and fit with a 24-ounce framing hammer. It's not a terribly useful technique for a bench. |
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Originally Posted By Cascade-Dude: Case Inspection, .300 BO, Lake City brass, from factory Winchester 170 grain XP ammo. I don't think there's anything of concern here but wanted to poste my thinking anyway. 1) Four cases. Only the one on the left has anything questionable on it. Virtually all of the Lake City 300 BO brass has one or two rings impressed around the top of the neck. None of the AAC 300 BO brass has this. I don't think it's cause for concern. My guess it has something to do with the bullets are retained in the case at the factory. Note the minor scratch on the case on the left, below the neck. Another pic of that coming below. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/582146/Lake_City_300_BO_Brass-3154857.jpg 2) A closer shot of the rings around the necks. Are those extractor marks on the side of the neck? They clearly belong there since i see them on all fired cases. Just curious. I'm curious about the dimple on the case on the right, on the shoulder. My guess is it's from contact with something on the rifle on its way out? I see these dimples on most, if not all cases, though in different places. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/582146/LC_Brass_Double_Scratches-3154858.jpg 3) A grayscale version on the case on the left in the first pc. The scratch is easier to see. I don't think it's cause for concern because it doesn't penetrate? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/582146/Case_Scratch_Closeup_Grayscale-3154856.jpg 4) A slightly-squashed case neck. I've always assumed this was caused by the case landing on the neck. I understand it's not a big deal as long as it doesn't interfere with the dies. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/582146/Case_Neck-3154859.jpg Thanks! Time to get back to work on the bench. View Quote To me, it looks like a collet crimp, and the little vampire bites I think are from the barrel lugs |
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Originally Posted By Cascade-Dude: Thank you. So, good to go for reloading then? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Cascade-Dude: Originally Posted By Nehi: To me, it looks like a collet crimp, and the little vampire bites I think are from the barrel lugs Thank you. So, good to go for reloading then? As far as I know, yes. But, I'm a novice reloader. |
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Originally Posted By Cascade-Dude: I've discovered that the factory .300 BO ammo I have stockpiled, AAC 110-grain v-max, doesn't feed reliably under rapid fire. It's too short. So my stockpile is now range ammo. As a result, I think I'm going to start reloading .300 BO first when I get my bench done, rather than .223. My stockpile of .223 runs just fine. I want to make sure I know what caliber-specific things I need to order so I can be ready to go. Here's what I've got on my list: Hornady Custom-Grade New Dimension 2-die set in .300 BO Hornady Micro-Juster Lyman M-Die in .300 BO Case go/no-go Gauge in .300 BO Shell holders for the press and trimmer will work on .300 BO. Am I missing anything? Thanks. View Quote Get a Lee FCD also. |
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I would reload them.
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For setting OAL for 180 gr and lighter bullets, read my post in the 300 blk Master thread. Explains how and why.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/300-Blackout-Master-Thread/42-385765/#i3572696 For bullets heaver than 180 grs use 2,250 OAL. |
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Originally Posted By dryflash3: For setting OAL for 180 gr and lighter bullets, read my post in the 300 blk Master thread. Explains how and why. https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/300-Blackout-Master-Thread/42-385765/#i3572696 For bullets heaver than 180 grs use 2,250 OAL. View Quote Thanks! I'm on it. |
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Originally Posted By Cascade-Dude: I have all the pieces cut and am ready to assemble them. I'm wondering if the way I assembled it last time might have exacerbated the problems caused by my low-precision cuts. Last time, I attached all of the cross-pieces to one of the longer pieces, then attached the the other long piece to the end. What is the best order of attachment, please? 1) Attach two short end pieces to create the perimeter and then add the interior cross-braces? 2) Attach each cross-brace, one at a time, at both ends, to both long pieces, starting at one end and moving to the other? 3) Like I did it before, attach one end of all the cross braces to one of the long pieces, then attach the other long piece to the other ends of the cross-braces? 4) Something else. 5) With more accurate cuts and square joints, the order of assembly doesn't matter. Thanks! In the pic, nothing is attached. I just laid it out on the floor without measuring anything. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/582146/20240325_142242-3169251.jpg View Quote 3, Don't repeat a mistake. |
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