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Posted: 1/31/2024 4:34:25 PM EDT
Picked this up in a local online auction. Navy Arms import -Uberti 1873 in 44-40. Date code says 1977. It's as new, unfired. Paid 900.00 out the door. Now to set up to reload, any pet loads recommended?
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Nice looking 73..
Good score |
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I don't know nothin'. I just post here.
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Wow very nice
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Very nice. You done good!!!
For the most powerful load with the lowest pressure, get some Swiss 3Fg. With a case-full of this and a 220 gr. cast bullet in my 1866 Uberti Sporting Rifle I'm getting well over 1300 fps. If you want to stick with smokeless, powders like Unique and Herco are good. Data varies widely, but I use 9.5 gr. of Unique and the same 220 gr. cast FP, seems like MV was around 1300 fps. If you're concerned with pressures, Re-7 is one of those powders with which you can just about fill the case without worrying about pressures, but still get maximum velocities. Lots of good info here- https://sites.google.com/view/44winchester/contributors/larry-gibson |
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Beautiful gun. I'm a big fan of Uberti 1873s and that looks like a nice one.
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If you decide to hunt with it, use a good HCFN. The 73's cannot handle a stready diet of +P hunting loads, although its pretty easy to swap out the toggles. I like the lighter 165-185 grain offerings to eek out as much velocity as possible. I would also suggest slugging your barrel to see what the true diameter is. Mine slugs at .451 not the normal .452
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Originally Posted By badguybuster: If you decide to hunt with it, use a good HCFN. The 73's cannot handle a stready diet of +P hunting loads, although its pretty easy to swap out the toggles. I like the lighter 165-185 grain offerings to eek out as much velocity as possible. I would also suggest slugging your barrel to see what the true diameter is. Mine slugs at .451 not the normal .452 View Quote His barrels groove diameter would probably be .429". And FWIW normal groove diameter for a .45 caliber barrel (assuming you're referring to a 45 Colt) is .450", not .452". |
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That's some beautiful CCH
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Outstanding deal!
I have a 1873 Cimmaron Indian Territory .357 hopefully arriving at the FFL by now or maybe tomorrow. Mine is a few hundred dollars more deer than your bargain. It’s also a Uberti made for Cimmaron. |
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Oh and fix that defect on it, fire it!
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Originally Posted By SteelonSteel: Outstanding deal! I have a 1873 Cimmaron Indian Territory .357 hopefully arriving at the FFL by now or maybe tomorrow. Mine is a few hundred dollars more deer than your bargain. It’s also a Uberti made for Cimmaron. View Quote I hope you'll start a thread with pictures of the Cimarron IT. I love those rifles and have a difficult time not buying one! |
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Originally Posted By SteelonSteel: Oh and fix that defect on it, fire it! View Quote I'm gathering 44-40 components. 100 pieces of starline brass just arrived, I'm going to slug the bore and then order some cast bullets. I have some dummy rounds and she cycles fine. I assume the RCBS cowboy dies are the way to go? |
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Check the specs on the cowboy dies even if you have to call their 1 800 number. I assume that they’re already set up for the extra width of lead. I have Dillon .38/357 dies that are sizing for jacketed bullets. I should see about buying a slightly bigger expander.
Not sure if any 44-40 die would be geared for jacketed ammo but I’d want to know. Especially since 44-40 necks are said to run thin and are a bit more unforgiving during seating. ggibbs, I just may. Edit the current RCBS website is awful. The only die set I could find for the 44-40 was the cowboy set. I don’t think you can go wrong with them. I have one cowboy die set for 38-55. They were nice enough to include two different size expanders. Unfortunately I had to make one to fit my fat mouthed Uberti high wall.... and a custom fat mold from Tom at Accurate. |
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Originally Posted By ACDer: I'm gathering 44-40 components. 100 pieces of starline brass just arrived, I'm going to slug the bore and then order some cast bullets. I have some dummy rounds and she cycles fine. I assume the RCBS cowboy dies are the way to go? View Quote Slug the barrel or just go here to find out. I don't use "cowboy" dies for my 44-40, just regular Lee 44-40 dies. |
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@ggibs
The bore slugs at .427, which matches online info for an Uberti of that age-they apparently went to .429 sometime in the 80's. Anyway, I assum a .428 bullet is called for, but just want to double check, thanks for the help. |
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Originally Posted By ACDer: @ggibs The bore slugs at .427, which matches online info for an Uberti of that age-they apparently went to .429 sometime in the 80's. Anyway, I assum a .428 bullet is called for, but just want to double check, thanks for the help. View Quote if it's cast you're talking about, I wouldn't hesitate to use from .428 to .430. |
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Originally Posted By ACDer: @ggibs The bore slugs at .427, which matches online info for an Uberti of that age-they apparently went to .429 sometime in the 80's. Anyway, I assum a .428 bullet is called for, but just want to double check, thanks for the help. View Quote I see Cimarron has Uberti bore size specs on a page on their site. I have a Taylor Arms Uberti made 1885 hi wall in .38-55 that is nowhere close to their advertised bore and groove dimensions. A chamber cast bore that out. My groves are much deeper than 0.379, in fact fatter than 0.381” |
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Damn fine!
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