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Posted: 9/28/2015 9:04:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BurtSaun1049]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By plante74:
Wow this might be my new favorite thread. Here is my aem5. 22 cal sitting on my new project. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/yRZgsZ" target="_blank">https://farm1.staticflickr.com/680/21569098289_dd47d58197_k.jpg</a>Retro by Kyle Plante, on Flickr On my Mod0 <a href="https://flic.kr/p/weniWw" target="_blank">https://farm1.staticflickr.com/371/19841975190_969bacaad4_k.jpg</a>House by Kyle Plante, on Flickr On my ModH <a href="https://flic.kr/p/vRvW7o" target="_blank">https://farm1.staticflickr.com/517/19594694850_7c2c5fed9e_k.jpg</a>12s by Kyle Plante, on Flickr 14.5 <a href="https://flic.kr/p/r3MzjQ" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7323/16440444336_d307082e2d_b.jpg</a>Mini Mod H by Kyle Plante, on Flickr I loooove this can! Dude, that rifle's gonna be a sweet shooter. Jelly of your collection |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 9:26:12 PM EDT
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ADCO has new AE compatible muzzle devices out:
Extended A1 FH instead of a brake I'm assuming to pin on 14.5 barrels https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2816 Comp/brake with ported holes instead of the large cuts https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2817 |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 9:29:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mattyvac: ADCO has new AE compatible muzzle devices out: Extended A1 FH instead of a brake I'm assuming to pin on 14.5 barrels https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2816 Comp/brake with ported holes instead of the large cuts https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2817 |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 11:20:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: the-answer-is-42]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By plante74:
Will the flash hider work okay with the can long term? I've heard you're supposed to use a brake. Any truth to that? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By plante74:
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
ADCO has new AE compatible muzzle devices out: Extended A1 FH instead of a brake I'm assuming to pin on 14.5 barrels https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2816 Comp/brake with ported holes instead of the large cuts https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2817 Smith Vortex makes a full size ops compatible FH as well as a 'shorty' for spikes tactical... I've asked Steve @ ADCO this question numerous times and I believe he's posted on here about it, too. Basically if you're using semi-auto there's really no way you will burn out the first baffle in your lifetime even if you use a flash hider instead of the brake. Full auto is another story. I have one of the regular short A1 mounts, and had the Vortex one for a few weeks, and it's MUCH nicer to shoot without the can on than the brakes are especially on SBRs. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 11:25:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By moose-hunter:
I'd love to throw a AEM30 on Mk12 ModMH .308... http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k149/supermoto68/mk12%20mod%20dan_zpsfwsdmpt2.jpg I have the AE brake but need a custom locating collar... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By moose-hunter:
Originally Posted By bigbore:
If you want to expand your collection, I have AEM5-30 suppressors in stock now. I'd love to throw a AEM30 on Mk12 ModMH .308... http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k149/supermoto68/mk12%20mod%20dan_zpsfwsdmpt2.jpg I have the AE brake but need a custom locating collar... That is absolutely beautiful. 
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Posted: 10/4/2015 4:21:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/5/2015 9:13:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex:
That is absolutely beautiful. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex:
Originally Posted By moose-hunter:
Originally Posted By bigbore:
If you want to expand your collection, I have AEM5-30 suppressors in stock now. I'd love to throw a AEM30 on Mk12 ModMH .308... http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k149/supermoto68/mk12%20mod%20dan_zpsfwsdmpt2.jpg I have the AE brake but need a custom locating collar... That is absolutely beautiful. I'm looking at doing this as well. Already have a Lilja barreled DPMS .308 to start. Talked to Ron on the phone yesterday and found out the difference between the AEM30 and AEM5 .30 Cal. AEM30 - 5/8x24 threading attachment with custom barrel profiling or collar. AEM 5 .30 Cal - same exact attachment as the AEM5/Ops 12th - break/flash hider and collar. |
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Posted: 10/5/2015 4:27:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
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Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider?
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Posted: 10/6/2015 4:26:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By plante74:
AEM5<a href="https://flic.kr/p/zqoDv1" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5651/21935787862_d0afd4c93a_k.jpg</a>Sup m16 by Kyle Plante, on Flickr What barrel are you using on that? I might end up copying you and putting it on my 601 clone lower 
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Posted: 10/6/2015 5:42:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By plante74:
AEM5<a href="https://flic.kr/p/zqoDv1" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5651/21935787862_d0afd4c93a_k.jpg</a>Sup m16 by Kyle Plante, on Flickr That thing is gorgeous |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:13:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JeredMD: What barrel are you using on that? I might end up copying you and putting it on my 601 clone lower Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JeredMD: Originally Posted By plante74: AEM5<a href="https://flic.kr/p/zqoDv1" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5651/21935787862_d0afd4c93a_k.jpg</a>Sup m16 by Kyle Plante, on Flickr What barrel are you using on that? I might end up copying you and putting it on my 601 clone lower |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 11:31:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan: Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider? |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 12:58:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider? Large crescent wrench, as close to the threads as possible. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 1:08:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAR-SPR: Large crescent wrench, as close to the threads as possible. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAR-SPR: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider? Large crescent wrench, as close to the threads as possible. No flats |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 1:54:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
No flats Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By JAR-SPR:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider? Large crescent wrench, as close to the threads as possible. No flats Indeed. I was referring to the main port, where the upper spline is thinner than the lower spline. You will be placing the wrench spanning across the 2 splines. You should not be needing more than 20ft-lbs on the crush washer, or more than a quarter turn to time the brake. If the brake isn't quite at 90 degrees to final alignment when you start with the wrench, then use shims to get to that position before you apply the wrench. Shims up against the barrel shoulder, then crush washer in between shims and brake. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 3:32:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GreenM4Guy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider?  |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 7:31:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenM4Guy: Under the TP are 3/4" wrench flats. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenM4Guy: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider? I'd advise you to go take a look at your AE flash hiders and report back... |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 9:24:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
I'd advise you to go take a look at your AE flash hiders and report back... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By GreenM4Guy:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider? I'd advise you to go take a look at your AE flash hiders and report back... The AEFH Mounts made by Allen Engineering do not have flats. The ADCO AE XA1 mounts have wrench flats For the AE mount, stick a flat bladed screw driver though it and snug it up to a shim/peel washer with a fair amount of loctite. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 9:31:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: The AEFH Mounts made by Allen Engineering do not have flats. The ADCO AE XA1 mounts have wrench flats For the AE mount, stick a flat bladed screw driver though it and snug it up to a shim/peel washer with a fair amount of loctite. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By GreenM4Guy: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider? I'd advise you to go take a look at your AE flash hiders and report back... The AEFH Mounts made by Allen Engineering do not have flats. The ADCO AE XA1 mounts have wrench flats For the AE mount, stick a flat bladed screw driver though it and snug it up to a shim/peel washer with a fair amount of loctite. Thought that would be what I'd have to do. Would the claw of a hammer work  (kidding)I think I still have some shims from my KAC mounts....hopefully |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 9:42:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
I think I still have some shims from my KAC mounts....hopefully Did you just order a barrel? If so I can toss some shims in the box with it before it goes out today. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 9:49:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Did you just order a barrel? If so I can toss some shims in the box with it before it goes out today. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Originally Posted By dangerdan: I think I still have some shims from my KAC mounts....hopefully Did you just order a barrel? If so I can toss some shims in the box with it before it goes out today. Yes I did. Some shims would be great. Thanks man  |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 10:41:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAR-SPR:
Indeed. I was referring to the main port, where the upper spline is thinner than the lower spline. You will be placing the wrench spanning across the 2 splines. You should not be needing more than 20ft-lbs on the crush washer, or more than a quarter turn to time the brake. If the brake isn't quite at 90 degrees to final alignment when you start with the wrench, then use shims to get to that position before you apply the wrench. Shims up against the barrel shoulder, then crush washer in between shims and brake. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAR-SPR:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By JAR-SPR:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider? Large crescent wrench, as close to the threads as possible. No flats Indeed. I was referring to the main port, where the upper spline is thinner than the lower spline. You will be placing the wrench spanning across the 2 splines. You should not be needing more than 20ft-lbs on the crush washer, or more than a quarter turn to time the brake. If the brake isn't quite at 90 degrees to final alignment when you start with the wrench, then use shims to get to that position before you apply the wrench. Shims up against the barrel shoulder, then crush washer in between shims and brake. No crush washer. Only shims or a peel washer. It seems to me that if you shim it to hand tight at about 15 degrees from where you want it that gets you in pretty close for final torque. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 11:48:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Whhood]
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Posted: 10/7/2015 12:04:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Whhood: You use a crush washer on the AEM mounts. You can use a crush washer, but you aren't limited to just that. But on the flash hider, there aren't any flats, making it hard to "crush" the washer without damaging the mount. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 12:22:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Whhood]
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Posted: 10/7/2015 12:36:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAR-SPR:
Indeed. I was referring to the main port, where the upper spline is thinner than the lower spline. You will be placing the wrench spanning across the 2 splines. You should not be needing more than 20ft-lbs on the crush washer, or more than a quarter turn to time the brake. If the brake isn't quite at 90 degrees to final alignment when you start with the wrench, then use shims to get to that position before you apply the wrench. Shims up against the barrel shoulder, then crush washer in between shims and brake. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAR-SPR:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By JAR-SPR:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider? Large crescent wrench, as close to the threads as possible. No flats Indeed. I was referring to the main port, where the upper spline is thinner than the lower spline. You will be placing the wrench spanning across the 2 splines. You should not be needing more than 20ft-lbs on the crush washer, or more than a quarter turn to time the brake. If the brake isn't quite at 90 degrees to final alignment when you start with the wrench, then use shims to get to that position before you apply the wrench. Shims up against the barrel shoulder, then crush washer in between shims and brake. Sorry, misread your post. Thought you were installing a brake. Flash hiders need a flat bar or screwdriver. No specific timing unless you really want it. No crush washer needed. Agree with loctite--green is preferable. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 4:56:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider? 
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Posted: 10/7/2015 9:28:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: The AEFH Mounts made by Allen Engineering do not have flats. The ADCO AE XA1 mounts have wrench flats For the AE mount, stick a flat bladed screw driver though it and snug it up to a shim/peel washer with a fair amount of loctite. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By GreenM4Guy: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider? I'd advise you to go take a look at your AE flash hiders and report back... The AEFH Mounts made by Allen Engineering do not have flats. The ADCO AE XA1 mounts have wrench flats For the AE mount, stick a flat bladed screw driver though it and snug it up to a shim/peel washer with a fair amount of loctite. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 12:12:08 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:01:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheBigStink: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/77574977/2015-10-07%2016.49.07.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheBigStink: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/77574977/2015-10-07%2016.49.07.jpg As a small arms repairman i am angered by this clusterfuck of a cunnundrum going on here.....the wrench literally has slots FOR the fh cut on it. Plz tell me this was a joke.... |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:03:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: As a small arms repairman i am angered by this clusterfuck of a cunnundrum going on here.....the wrench literally has slots FOR the fh cut on it. Plz tell me this was a joke.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: Originally Posted By TheBigStink: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/77574977/2015-10-07%2016.49.07.jpg As a small arms repairman i am angered by this clusterfuck of a cunnundrum going on here.....the wrench literally has slots FOR the fh cut on it. Plz tell me this was a joke.... The AE flash hider doesn't have wrench flats on it....as I previously stated. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 12:41:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83:
As a small arms repairman i am angered by this clusterfuck of a cunnundrum going on here.....the wrench literally has slots FOR the fh cut on it. Plz tell me this was a joke.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83:
Originally Posted By TheBigStink:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/77574977/2015-10-07%2016.49.07.jpg As a small arms repairman i am angered by this clusterfuck of a cunnundrum going on here.....the wrench literally has slots FOR the fh cut on it. Plz tell me this was a joke.... stop looking at my tool brah |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:14:37 PM EDT
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So......how do they expect one to install it?
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Posted: 10/14/2015 8:31:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheBigStink: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/77574977/2015-10-07%2016.49.07.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheBigStink: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/77574977/2015-10-07%2016.49.07.jpg The method worked  12th Model  |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 9:54:15 AM EDT
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Nice
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Posted: 10/17/2015 6:31:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
The method worked
<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/20151013_173814_zpsq3izkh0i.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/20151013_173814_zpsq3izkh0i.jpg</a> 12th Model <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/20151013_173512_zpssg73hcdb.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/20151013_173512_zpssg73hcdb.jpg</a> Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By TheBigStink:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Anyone have any tips on installing the flash hider? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/77574977/2015-10-07%2016.49.07.jpg The method worked
<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/20151013_173814_zpsq3izkh0i.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/20151013_173814_zpsq3izkh0i.jpg</a> 12th Model <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/20151013_173512_zpssg73hcdb.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/20151013_173512_zpssg73hcdb.jpg</a> Very nice, Dan. |
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Posted: 10/18/2015 3:49:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2015 10:46:36 PM EDT
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Has anyone used their AEM5 with 22lr? I have a CMMG .22 upper for my wife and I was curious if it would be copacetic to do so with no ill effects.
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Posted: 10/23/2015 10:48:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dejavu: Has anyone used their AEM5 with 22lr? I have a CMMG .22 upper for my wife and I was curious if it would be copacetic to do so with no ill effects. Some people have. I believe they only use washed/coated .22s |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 11:11:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Some people have. I believe they only use washed/coated .22s Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By Dejavu:
Has anyone used their AEM5 with 22lr? I have a CMMG .22 upper for my wife and I was curious if it would be copacetic to do so with no ill effects. Some people have. I believe they only use washed/coated .22s Yeah I was thinking the copper coated would be best. Wouldn't be using it a lot with the .22, but it gets the wife into the game a bit more. |
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Posted: 11/12/2015 5:02:51 PM EDT
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Some AEM5 action.
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Posted: 11/13/2015 1:51:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mattyvac:
Smith Vortex makes a full size ops compatible FH as well as a 'shorty' for spikes tactical... I've asked Steve @ ADCO this question numerous times and I believe he's posted on here about it, too. Basically if you're using semi-auto there's really no way you will burn out the first baffle in your lifetime even if you use a flash hider instead of the brake. Full auto is another story. I have one of the regular short A1 mounts, and had the Vortex one for a few weeks, and it's MUCH nicer to shoot without the can on than the brakes are especially on SBRs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By plante74:
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
ADCO has new AE compatible muzzle devices out: Extended A1 FH instead of a brake I'm assuming to pin on 14.5 barrels https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2816 Comp/brake with ported holes instead of the large cuts https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2817 Smith Vortex makes a full size ops compatible FH as well as a 'shorty' for spikes tactical... I've asked Steve @ ADCO this question numerous times and I believe he's posted on here about it, too. Basically if you're using semi-auto there's really no way you will burn out the first baffle in your lifetime even if you use a flash hider instead of the brake. Full auto is another story. I have one of the regular short A1 mounts, and had the Vortex one for a few weeks, and it's MUCH nicer to shoot without the can on than the brakes are especially on SBRs. AFCOM never ceases to amaze me, I truly do learn something new everyday! So let me get this straight...There are flash hiders that can be used in place of the Ops specific muzzle brake with no issues? I have a HCS built MK12 Mod1 upper and I also purchased a Ops Inc 12 5.56 suppressor from them years ago. Love the rifle and suppressor (my first). I'd like to use the suppressor on other 5.56 rifles I have, but I've always looked at as if there are two issues I had to overcome first. 1) Rifle barrel needs profiled to accept Ops collar in proper location 2) Must use Ops brake. I've historically seen #2 as the biggest limiting factor as if you are not using the can, the brake is really loud. Being able to use a FH in place of the brake solves that problem. I'm looking to build a SAM-R style (not pure clone, but close) as mentioned in another thread and another member pointed out that if I mounted the Ops collar I could then use my Ops 12th on the rifle which I think would be a great option to have, but using the brake as the primary muzzle device is a turn off. I'm still trying to decide on which barrel to go with..either the BCM SAM-R barrel or I also contacted Compass Lake Engineering and they offered to make me a SAM-R barrel just like they did for the real one. Which parts do I need for either barrel? |
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Posted: 11/13/2015 2:01:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NukeThemTillTheyGlow:
AFCOM never ceases to amaze me, I truly do learn something new everyday! So let me get this straight...There are flash hiders that can be used in place of the Ops specific muzzle brake with no issues? I have a HCS built MK12 Mod1 upper and I also purchased a Ops Inc 12 5.56 suppressor from them years ago. Love the rifle and suppressor (my first). I'd like to use the suppressor on other 5.56 rifles I have, but I've always looked at as if there are two issues I had to overcome first. 1) Rifle barrel needs profiled to accept Ops collar in proper location 2) Must use Ops brake. I've historically seen #2 as the biggest limiting factor as if you are not using the can, the brake is really loud. Being able to use a FH in place of the brake solves that problem. I'm looking to build a SAM-R style (not pure clone, but close) as mentioned in another thread and another member pointed out that if I mounted the Ops collar I could then use my Ops 12th on the rifle which I think would be a great option to have, but using the brake as the primary muzzle device is a turn off. I'm still trying to decide on which barrel to go with..either the BCM SAM-R barrel or I also contacted Compass Lake Engineering and they offered to make me a SAM-R barrel just like they did for the real one. Which parts do I need for either barrel? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NukeThemTillTheyGlow:
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By plante74:
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
ADCO has new AE compatible muzzle devices out: Extended A1 FH instead of a brake I'm assuming to pin on 14.5 barrels https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2816 Comp/brake with ported holes instead of the large cuts https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2817 Smith Vortex makes a full size ops compatible FH as well as a 'shorty' for spikes tactical... I've asked Steve @ ADCO this question numerous times and I believe he's posted on here about it, too. Basically if you're using semi-auto there's really no way you will burn out the first baffle in your lifetime even if you use a flash hider instead of the brake. Full auto is another story. I have one of the regular short A1 mounts, and had the Vortex one for a few weeks, and it's MUCH nicer to shoot without the can on than the brakes are especially on SBRs. AFCOM never ceases to amaze me, I truly do learn something new everyday! So let me get this straight...There are flash hiders that can be used in place of the Ops specific muzzle brake with no issues? I have a HCS built MK12 Mod1 upper and I also purchased a Ops Inc 12 5.56 suppressor from them years ago. Love the rifle and suppressor (my first). I'd like to use the suppressor on other 5.56 rifles I have, but I've always looked at as if there are two issues I had to overcome first. 1) Rifle barrel needs profiled to accept Ops collar in proper location 2) Must use Ops brake. I've historically seen #2 as the biggest limiting factor as if you are not using the can, the brake is really loud. Being able to use a FH in place of the brake solves that problem. I'm looking to build a SAM-R style (not pure clone, but close) as mentioned in another thread and another member pointed out that if I mounted the Ops collar I could then use my Ops 12th on the rifle which I think would be a great option to have, but using the brake as the primary muzzle device is a turn off. I'm still trying to decide on which barrel to go with..either the BCM SAM-R barrel or I also contacted Compass Lake Engineering and they offered to make me a SAM-R barrel just like they did for the real one. Which parts do I need for either barrel? https://www.adcofirearms.com/shoppingcartmapq.cfm?orderno=98966820 |
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Posted: 11/13/2015 2:56:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NukeThemTillTheyGlow:
AFCOM never ceases to amaze me, I truly do learn something new everyday! So let me get this straight...There are flash hiders that can be used in place of the Ops specific muzzle brake with no issues? I have a HCS built MK12 Mod1 upper and I also purchased a Ops Inc 12 5.56 suppressor from them years ago. Love the rifle and suppressor (my first). I'd like to use the suppressor on other 5.56 rifles I have, but I've always looked at as if there are two issues I had to overcome first. 1) Rifle barrel needs profiled to accept Ops collar in proper location 2) Must use Ops brake. I've historically seen #2 as the biggest limiting factor as if you are not using the can, the brake is really loud. Being able to use a FH in place of the brake solves that problem. I'm looking to build a SAM-R style (not pure clone, but close) as mentioned in another thread and another member pointed out that if I mounted the Ops collar I could then use my Ops 12th on the rifle which I think would be a great option to have, but using the brake as the primary muzzle device is a turn off. I'm still trying to decide on which barrel to go with..either the BCM SAM-R barrel or I also contacted Compass Lake Engineering and they offered to make me a SAM-R barrel just like they did for the real one. Which parts do I need for either barrel? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NukeThemTillTheyGlow:
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By plante74:
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
ADCO has new AE compatible muzzle devices out: Extended A1 FH instead of a brake I'm assuming to pin on 14.5 barrels https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2816 Comp/brake with ported holes instead of the large cuts https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2817 Smith Vortex makes a full size ops compatible FH as well as a 'shorty' for spikes tactical... I've asked Steve @ ADCO this question numerous times and I believe he's posted on here about it, too. Basically if you're using semi-auto there's really no way you will burn out the first baffle in your lifetime even if you use a flash hider instead of the brake. Full auto is another story. I have one of the regular short A1 mounts, and had the Vortex one for a few weeks, and it's MUCH nicer to shoot without the can on than the brakes are especially on SBRs. AFCOM never ceases to amaze me, I truly do learn something new everyday! So let me get this straight...There are flash hiders that can be used in place of the Ops specific muzzle brake with no issues? I have a HCS built MK12 Mod1 upper and I also purchased a Ops Inc 12 5.56 suppressor from them years ago. Love the rifle and suppressor (my first). I'd like to use the suppressor on other 5.56 rifles I have, but I've always looked at as if there are two issues I had to overcome first. 1) Rifle barrel needs profiled to accept Ops collar in proper location 2) Must use Ops brake. I've historically seen #2 as the biggest limiting factor as if you are not using the can, the brake is really loud. Being able to use a FH in place of the brake solves that problem. I'm looking to build a SAM-R style (not pure clone, but close) as mentioned in another thread and another member pointed out that if I mounted the Ops collar I could then use my Ops 12th on the rifle which I think would be a great option to have, but using the brake as the primary muzzle device is a turn off. I'm still trying to decide on which barrel to go with..either the BCM SAM-R barrel or I also contacted Compass Lake Engineering and they offered to make me a SAM-R barrel just like they did for the real one. Which parts do I need for either barrel? Allen Engineering makes a collar that would allow you to mount your Ops 12th on an M4 pattern barrel. While the SAM-R type barrel doesn't have that step or the Ops 12th step, you could have CLE put either on the barrel. The M4 cut is just .700x.700 behind the barrel shoulder, and the M4 to AEM5 adapter would position your 12th model correctly. Then just add the flash hider with a crush washer lightly snugged and go. |
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Posted: 11/13/2015 3:14:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86: Allen Engineering makes a collar that would allow you to mount your Ops 12th on an M4 pattern barrel. While the SAM-R type barrel doesn't have that step or the Ops 12th step, you could have CLE put either on the barrel. The M4 cut is just .700x.700 behind the barrel shoulder, and the M4 to AEM5 adapter would position your 12th model correctly. Then just add the flash hider with a crush washer lightly snugged and go. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86: Originally Posted By NukeThemTillTheyGlow: Originally Posted By Mattyvac: Originally Posted By plante74: Originally Posted By Mattyvac: ADCO has new AE compatible muzzle devices out: Extended A1 FH instead of a brake I'm assuming to pin on 14.5 barrels https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2816 Comp/brake with ported holes instead of the large cuts https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2817 Smith Vortex makes a full size ops compatible FH as well as a 'shorty' for spikes tactical... I've asked Steve @ ADCO this question numerous times and I believe he's posted on here about it, too. Basically if you're using semi-auto there's really no way you will burn out the first baffle in your lifetime even if you use a flash hider instead of the brake. Full auto is another story. I have one of the regular short A1 mounts, and had the Vortex one for a few weeks, and it's MUCH nicer to shoot without the can on than the brakes are especially on SBRs. AFCOM never ceases to amaze me, I truly do learn something new everyday! So let me get this straight...There are flash hiders that can be used in place of the Ops specific muzzle brake with no issues? I have a HCS built MK12 Mod1 upper and I also purchased a Ops Inc 12 5.56 suppressor from them years ago. Love the rifle and suppressor (my first). I'd like to use the suppressor on other 5.56 rifles I have, but I've always looked at as if there are two issues I had to overcome first. 1) Rifle barrel needs profiled to accept Ops collar in proper location 2) Must use Ops brake. I've historically seen #2 as the biggest limiting factor as if you are not using the can, the brake is really loud. Being able to use a FH in place of the brake solves that problem. I'm looking to build a SAM-R style (not pure clone, but close) as mentioned in another thread and another member pointed out that if I mounted the Ops collar I could then use my Ops 12th on the rifle which I think would be a great option to have, but using the brake as the primary muzzle device is a turn off. I'm still trying to decide on which barrel to go with..either the BCM SAM-R barrel or I also contacted Compass Lake Engineering and they offered to make me a SAM-R barrel just like they did for the real one. Which parts do I need for either barrel? Allen Engineering makes a collar that would allow you to mount your Ops 12th on an M4 pattern barrel. While the SAM-R type barrel doesn't have that step or the Ops 12th step, you could have CLE put either on the barrel. The M4 cut is just .700x.700 behind the barrel shoulder, and the M4 to AEM5 adapter would position your 12th model correctly. Then just add the flash hider with a crush washer lightly snugged and go. The BCM SAM-R barrel has a .75" step, so you should be able to get by mounting an AEM5/12th Model with an M4 barrel AEM5 collar, in turn, saving your money from additional shop services that aren't needed. I say "should" because every barrel manufacturer is slightly different in length from muzzle to shoulder and diameters. You could always call Allen Engineering and ron can help you out. I bought an M4 barrel collar for my 12th Model to mount on a SIG M4 barrel The collar was too small for the barrel. I called Ron and he made me a collar specific to my measurements and had it shipped out the next day at no charge. |
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Posted: 11/17/2015 1:32:03 PM EDT
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How warm does the section of the can behind the muzzle get relative to the rest of the suppressor body? Have an idea for a build but am curious how much heat that area puts out.
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Posted: 11/17/2015 1:49:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r: How warm does the section of the can behind the muzzle get relative to the rest of the suppressor body? Have an idea for a build but am curious how much heat that area puts out. Too hot to handle |
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Posted: 11/17/2015 2:00:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Too hot to handle Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
How warm does the section of the can behind the muzzle get relative to the rest of the suppressor body? Have an idea for a build but am curious how much heat that area puts out. Too hot to handle So having that little bit under a hand guard is probably a bad idea? |
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Posted: 11/17/2015 4:27:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r: So having that little bit under a hand guard is probably a bad idea? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r: How warm does the section of the can behind the muzzle get relative to the rest of the suppressor body? Have an idea for a build but am curious how much heat that area puts out. Too hot to handle So having that little bit under a hand guard is probably a bad idea? Not really. Several people have done it. But the suppressor gets hot. |
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Posted: 11/17/2015 4:50:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Not really. Several people have done it. But the suppressor gets hot. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
How warm does the section of the can behind the muzzle get relative to the rest of the suppressor body? Have an idea for a build but am curious how much heat that area puts out. Too hot to handle So having that little bit under a hand guard is probably a bad idea? Not really. Several people have done it. But the suppressor gets hot. Looking around and reading a bit more tells me roughly 1/2" will be under the handguard. I'll look into it more but I think I'll be ok |
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