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Posted: 4/2/2024 2:07:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HKocher]
Say you obtain a non-factory SBR via form 4. The SBR was made by a now defunct builder back when the engraving issue was still in question and the builder didn’t engrave his info. What do you do to remedy this short of taking off the registry and doing a form 1 in your own name?
Second scenario. Factory SBR. Seller took off registry and pinned muzzle device. You buy it and want to SBR it on a form 1. I assume you would have to engrave your info even though it was once a factory SBR? |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 2:12:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: D_Man]
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Well, technically it was on the builder to have the info engraved, so if anyone is in violation of the law, it's them and not you.
Thant said, on the extremely rare chance the ATF ever gets ahold of the firearm for some reason and finds it's not engraved with the proper maker's info, they may resolve it by engraving it themselves in whatever horrible place and way they deem fit. For the second one, yes. You'd need a new Form 1, and since you're the maker on a "new" SBR, you would have to engrave your info. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 2:12:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: _DR]
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When was engraving not required for any NFA item made on a form 1?
Seems like mfg info had to be engraved since day one? |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 2:14:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: Well, technically it was on the builder to have the info engraved, so if anyone is in violation of the law, it's them and not you. Thant said, on the extremely rare chance the ATF ever gets ahold of the firearm for some reason and finds it's not engraved with the proper maker's info, they may resolve it by engraving it themselves in whatever horrible place and way they deem fit. That’s kind of what I was thinking. I suppose one could also engrave the original builder’s info themselves. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 2:19:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HKocher]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: When was engraving not required for any NFA item made on a form 1? Seems like mfg info had to be engraved since day one? IIRC, back in the late 90s there was at least one ATF letter out there stating you only needed the original manufacturer info (IE Colt, HK, etc.) for SBRing an existing title 1 firearm. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 2:42:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KitBuilder]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: When was engraving not required for any NFA item made on a form 1? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: When was engraving not required for any NFA item made on a form 1? Seems like mfg info had to be engraved since day one? There is no law requiring a subsequent possessor or transferee to do any engraving. @D_Man is correct about that. There's no "remedy" required because there is no violation. For your scenario #2, yes you'd have to engrave because now you are the maker. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 2:50:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: November5]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: When was engraving not required for any NFA item made on a form 1? Seems like mfg info had to be engraved since day one? |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 3:19:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HKocher: Say you obtain a non-factory SBR via form 4. The SBR was made by a now defunct builder back when the engraving issue was still in question and the builder didn't engrave his info. What do you do to remedy this short of taking off the registry and doing a form 1 in your own name? Engrave that. |
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