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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:08:09 AM EDT
I have done extensive work on overcoming all the weaknesses and erroneous engineering and manufacturing issues associated with these clones
to create an actual tough as nails , dependable , zero holding LAM.... The lasers are full power...so if you are willing to do some work and use your brain I'll walk you through it on the cheap Just takes the effort ....are you ready ?? Watch all my videos on YT ....I post daily to help you with LAMS , NV , Tripods and generally a proper set up for your needs.. Enjoy ... https://youtu.be/GVuRAf2EQ0M?si=ZP6TYBr6oHIo5uoe Any questions ?/ I'm here for ya guys Fire away ! I have tested and put these things through the gauntlet .. They are NOT worthy until you do my mods....forget it!!! you wanna see the guts and the true issues ?? watch my videos |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:08:45 AM EDT
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I would like to also dispel the lie that Somogear is currently potting the circuit boards, diodes, and any connections or soldered points inside these units
THEY ARE NOT !!!! I have 2 new units in my possession as of October ...tore into them, they are NOT potted in any way shape or form The units were purchased directly from Somogear website and advertised and labled as such... They are lying and not doing any potting These LAMS are fully susceptible to failure and do under the weakest amount of recoil ... Ill walk you through it and keep facts as facts .... |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:09:14 AM EDT
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@metalsaber
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:12:46 AM EDT
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I am also evolving and improving the Sionyx Aurora cameras for weapon mounted system that works.....
If you have one come on over and join the conversation .....https://imgur.com/a/Ic7IlUH |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:14:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By laxman09: @metalsaber LOL  Ummm , no he has done zero work on the units .... |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:24:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shotinthedark7: LOL Ummm , no he has done zero work on the units .... Let me help you here since youre new. We tag people who might be interested in what you are doing. Maybe he is someone who could benefit. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:35:41 AM EDT
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Lol
ahhh I see ...very cool ! thank you ... |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:36:29 AM EDT
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I am the Tactical Grandpa you kids are gonna have to wait for me to ketchup ...mustard
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Posted: 11/20/2023 11:34:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: metalsaber]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shotinthedark7: Lol ahhh I see ...very cool ! thank you ... |
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USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 12:20:15 PM EDT
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Maybe I'm one of those lazy guys, but I'm looking for a step-by-step guide with pictures and a BoM.
That said, yeah, I'm surprised Somogear hasn't addressed the spring issue themselves more decisively. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 1:25:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By erwos: Maybe I'm one of those lazy guys, but I'm looking for a step-by-step guide with pictures and a BoM. That said, yeah, I'm surprised Somogear hasn't addressed the spring issue themselves more decisively. I will tear into the next SOMO PEQ15 this week with a complete step by step ... |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 1:26:15 PM EDT
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I appreciate you as well , you actually motivated me to buy some of these to tear into
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USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 1:52:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shotinthedark7: I will tear into the next SOMO PEQ15 this week with a complete step by step ... Thanks! |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 2:11:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shotinthedark7: I will tear into the next SOMO PEQ15 this week with a complete step by step ... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shotinthedark7: Originally Posted By erwos: Maybe I'm one of those lazy guys, but I'm looking for a step-by-step guide with pictures and a BoM. That said, yeah, I'm surprised Somogear hasn't addressed the spring issue themselves more decisively. I will tear into the next SOMO PEQ15 this week with a complete step by step ... |
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USA
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Posted: 11/21/2023 12:00:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shotinthedark7:I am the Tactical Grandpa… try turning your phone sideways, aka landscape.
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Posted: 11/21/2023 3:50:54 PM EDT
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Maybe Ive been very fortunate but the couple that I have have worked on everything Ive thrown them on
I did bust the first one I bought a few years ago when installing a new battery. Likely broke the lead off the battery compartment. Ill give the video a watch |
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Posted: 11/21/2023 10:48:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: UT-ARShooter]
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Thanks for posting that. Very interesting as I've wondering about these.
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NT, USA
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Posted: 11/21/2023 10:57:30 PM EDT
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My laser shot all the way left and won't adjust anymore, I knew buyin it, that it was a gamble bought a MAWL
Would like to fix my unit tho. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 11:37:00 AM EDT
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@shotinthedark7 - I’m curious what your background and expertise related to LAM’s is?
Watched the video and thought your observations on the build quality were enlightening. Will be interested to see how the unit you modified performs overall. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 11:48:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shotinthedark7: I would like to also dispel the lie that Somogear is currently potting the circuit boards, diodes, and any connections or soldered points inside these units THEY ARE NOT !!!! I have 2 new units in my possession as of October ...tore into them, they are NOT potted in any way shape or form The units were purchased directly from Somogear website and advertised and labled as such... They are lying and not doing any potting These LAMS are fully susceptible to failure and do under the weakest amount of recoil ... Ill walk you through it and keep facts as facts .... So the board didn't even have the thin clear polymer over it as shown on the website? |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/22/2023 8:18:54 PM EDT
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Nuttin ...notta ...zippo...zilch ..!!!!
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Posted: 11/22/2023 8:22:31 PM EDT
[#21]
Well…
That’s not good. I have 4 of the “potted” units on order. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 11/23/2023 11:52:09 AM EDT
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Interesting this replica is higher power than a Perst? I’ll have to buy one to pop open and look at the internals.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/23/2023 12:10:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By laxman09: Let me help you here since youre new. We tag people who might be interested in what you are doing. Maybe he is someone who could benefit. Every time I see "metalsaber", my mind reads it as meatsaber. he should change his name to meatsaber. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/23/2023 12:43:29 PM EDT
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What did you do with it ?? you can fix it or send it to somebody that will
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/23/2023 12:45:27 PM EDT
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Thank you for the kind words
I'm a machinist , engineer , builder , electrician .... I worked for a Large German Corp in my 20's for 12 years and was trained there College Grad ..machine tool tech .(machinist) Navy vet .Gulf War era ...92 |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/23/2023 12:46:07 PM EDT
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Well . let's be accurate , it is a Sotac Perst4 clone
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/23/2023 12:49:35 PM EDT
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No worries , they need to be torn apart irregardless... I'll be tearing into it this weekend and loading a video ...
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/24/2023 10:35:37 PM EDT
[#28]
 Somogear High Power PEQ15 IR Aiming Laser and Illuminator - Airsoft Junk, or Legit Hardware? PT 1  Somogear High Power PEQ15 IR Aiming Laser and Illuminator - 800 Rounds Later...Worth It? PT 2 |
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Posted: 11/25/2023 9:50:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Nobody69s]
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@Shotinthedark7
Just got done going down the Somogear rabbit hole last night and ran by your videos. Very informative. Have you thought about getting the Somogear Ngal? The illuminator on that one looks a lot cleaner on the edges than the other models. I'll probably order one before the 1st of the year and dismantle, pot it and what every else it'll need to make it worthy of my gun haha. |
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Posted: 11/25/2023 10:08:41 AM EDT
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With all of the videos of people using these on RS I have a feeling that at some point the FDA is going to clamp down on these just like the ATF changed their opinion on pistol braces and the EPA shut down diesel tuners.
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Posted: 11/25/2023 10:10:53 AM EDT
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I was in on the old thread and subscribed to your channel. Ive been in the market for an IR laser.
If you use the quote button instead of the reply one people will have some idea who and what you are replying to.  Attached File |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/25/2023 11:49:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoImpactNoIdea: I was in on the old thread and subscribed to your channel. Ive been in the market for an IR laser. If you use the quote button instead of the reply one people will have some idea who and what you are replying to. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/74034/Capture_JPG-3039381.JPG Ahh Thank you again... I figured if I was replying to a particular message it would respond accordingly .. I'm guilty of submitting and not reviewing it .. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/25/2023 11:56:55 AM EDT
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OK I finally have a day off
I am in the process of getting coffee and things around my counter top Ill get rolling on tearing into this virgin unit I was corresponding with Michael Wiellet the owner of Paragon Armory last night and promised him I'd get this documented video up today as well.. I warned him against advertising PEQ15's as potted when they are NOT I know this is a Somogear deception and not him and I did not want to see him in legal trouble in the future as it only takes one POS Lawyer .... So look for the vids to begin today first thing Ill do is dispel the potting rumor Then Ill get busy doing a tutorial of the process of making these nits worthy I had an NGAL paid for on order for weeks and finally cancelled it as I had some family need $$ for unforseen medical bills ..I had to help them I will bet all my chips , the NGAL only differs from the PEQ in the body material only ...most other components and practices will be the same I know manufacturing ....keeping parts minimal and standardized across all platforms is very important ..we already know the electrical issue with pc board lead to battery body is the same... Laser modules are the same ...etc |
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Posted: 11/25/2023 12:31:15 PM EDT
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Was the unit that you’ll be tearing into today ordered from Somogear or from Paragon?
I questioned the potting claim from Somogear and this is the reply that I received… This happened once before and I still don’t know the reason. Maybe the wrong package was sent because the PCB version had just been released at that time? Most orders to the US now include PCB services, so you don’t have to worry about this problem happening again. -- Regards Pretty standard “I don’t know” answer. Looking forward to what you find today. |
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NT, USA
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Posted: 11/25/2023 12:37:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shotinthedark7: OK I finally have a day off I am in the process of getting coffee and things around my counter top Ill get rolling on tearing into this virgin unit I was corresponding with Michael Wiellet the owner of Paragon Armory last night and promised him I'd get this documented video up today as well.. I warned him against advertising PEQ15's as potted when they are NOT I know this is a Somogear deception and not him and I did not want to see him in legal trouble in the future as it only takes one POS Lawyer .... So look for the vids to begin today first thing Ill do is dispel the potting rumor Then Ill get busy doing a tutorial of the process of making these nits worthy I had an NGAL paid for on order for weeks and finally cancelled it as I had some family need $$ for unforseen medical bills ..I had to help them I will bet all my chips , the NGAL only differs from the PEQ in the body material only ...most other components and practices will be the same I know manufacturing ....keeping parts minimal and standardized across all platforms is very important ..we already know the electrical issue with pc board lead to battery body is the same... Laser modules are the same ...etc Looking forward to this, perhaps my SMPQ15 can be saved… |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/25/2023 2:21:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shotinthedark7: OK I finally have a day off I am in the process of getting coffee and things around my counter top Ill get rolling on tearing into this virgin unit I was corresponding with Michael Wiellet the owner of Paragon Armory last night and promised him I'd get this documented video up today as well.. I warned him against advertising PEQ15's as potted when they are NOT I know this is a Somogear deception and not him and I did not want to see him in legal trouble in the future as it only takes one POS Lawyer .... So look for the vids to begin today first thing Ill do is dispel the potting rumor Then Ill get busy doing a tutorial of the process of making these nits worthy I had an NGAL paid for on order for weeks and finally cancelled it as I had some family need $$ for unforseen medical bills ..I had to help them I will bet all my chips , the NGAL only differs from the PEQ in the body material only ...most other components and practices will be the same I know manufacturing ....keeping parts minimal and standardized across all platforms is very important ..we already know the electrical issue with pc board lead to battery body is the same... Laser modules are the same ...etc Very interested in this! I've got one on the way and if I can go ahead a beef it up before use I'd much rather do that. |
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USA
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Posted: 11/25/2023 2:41:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shotinthedark7: OK I finally have a day off I am in the process of getting coffee and things around my counter top Ill get rolling on tearing into this virgin unit I was corresponding with Michael Wiellet the owner of Paragon Armory last night and promised him I'd get this documented video up today as well.. I warned him against advertising PEQ15's as potted when they are NOT I know this is a Somogear deception and not him and I did not want to see him in legal trouble in the future as it only takes one POS Lawyer .... So look for the vids to begin today first thing Ill do is dispel the potting rumor Then Ill get busy doing a tutorial of the process of making these nits worthy I had an NGAL paid for on order for weeks and finally cancelled it as I had some family need $$ for unforseen medical bills ..I had to help them I will bet all my chips , the NGAL only differs from the PEQ in the body material only ...most other components and practices will be the same I know manufacturing ....keeping parts minimal and standardized across all platforms is very important ..we already know the electrical issue with pc board lead to battery body is the same... Laser modules are the same ...etc Watched your videos and looking forward to the step by step on the PEQ. You should give yourself a little more credit, the vids are better than grampa quality. If you have good info, the production of the video doesn’t mean too much. I would suggest letting us know a decent source for those springs. Not all springs are created equal and I would hate to have to open this little bitch back up for a higher quality spring. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/25/2023 3:00:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mickdog13: Watched your videos and looking forward to the step by step on the PEQ. You should give yourself a little more credit, the vids are better than grampa quality. If you have good info, the production of the video doesn’t mean too much. I would suggest letting us know a decent source for those springs. Not all springs are created equal and I would hate to have to open this little bitch back up for a higher quality spring. Yes part number on anything you use in the description. It's so helpful! |
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Posted: 11/25/2023 3:50:58 PM EDT
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Subscribed to thread
Thanks OP |
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Posted: 11/25/2023 6:12:51 PM EDT
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Looking forward to the new video man.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/25/2023 8:00:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Shotinthedark7]
[#41]
Thank You to all
I have cut full video today , but the resolution on my camera was hella big... UHD 30 is not good ....my software I bought cannot even splice 4 vids together without crashing !!! so I had to upload each segment ...arghhh! they are up now and processing ... BTW ...shocker ! this one was somewhat potted...unlike the first one... is it actual potting ?? ummm no ..its a thin layer of soft set acrylic of some sort but I guess you may say it's potted.... not up to my standards and certainly not gonna do jack shit for longevity,,but they have the ability to claim it ... yada yada .... enjoy kids.. springs are Handi Pack SRM 160 part # 88262 https://youtu.be/Q9ZRt2XNVUk?si=hHlO_wqB2QXYMSEu compression 3/8" x 29/32" |
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Posted: 11/25/2023 8:16:49 PM EDT
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How many videos will there be in this series?
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/25/2023 9:52:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shotinthedark7: Thank You to all I have cut full video today , but the resolution on my camera was hella big... UHD 30 is not good ....my software I bought cannot even splice 4 vids together without crashing !!! so I had to upload each segment ...arghhh! they are up now and processing ... BTW ...shocker ! this one was somewhat potted...unlike the first one... is it actual potting ?? ummm no ..its a thin layer of soft set acrylic of some sort but I guess you may say it's potted.... not up to my standards and certainly not gonna do jack shit for longevity,,but they have the ability to claim it ... yada yada .... enjoy kids.. springs are Handi Pack SRM 160 part # 88262 https://youtu.be/Q9ZRt2XNVUk?si=hHlO_wqB2QXYMSEu compression 3/8" x 29/32" Videos are great! Let me pay you to do that to mine! |
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Posted: 11/25/2023 10:03:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shotinthedark7: Thank You to all I have cut full video today , but the resolution on my camera was hella big... UHD 30 is not good ....my software I bought cannot even splice 4 vids together without crashing !!! so I had to upload each segment ...arghhh! they are up now and processing ... BTW ...shocker ! this one was somewhat potted...unlike the first one... is it actual potting ?? ummm no ..its a thin layer of soft set acrylic of some sort but I guess you may say it's potted.... not up to my standards and certainly not gonna do jack shit for longevity,,but they have the ability to claim it ... yada yada .... enjoy kids.. springs are Handi Pack SRM 160 part # 88262 https://youtu.be/Q9ZRt2XNVUk?si=hHlO_wqB2QXYMSEu compression 3/8" x 29/32"  Failed To Load Title |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/25/2023 10:57:40 PM EDT
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Gentlemen ...
After constant evaluations of the changes I make I am going to alter my recommendations accordingly This is a constant process or evolution so it's par for the course... Do NOT install the heavier spring I utilize on the laser modules for the IR Illuminator I am experiencing travel limitations on this as the tension for some reason is too much for this adjustment pylon ...so it limits the movement .. I feel the stock spring is sufficient for this application and thus zero for an illuminator is not exactly an intelligent worry ......it'll be good enough....the spring I used should be a 3/8" x 3/4" in my estimation to be proper ....you may adjust accordingly and use a 3/4" spring ....compression or maintain OEM...... Enjoy .... |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:37:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Shotinthedark7]
[#46]
Gentlemen ....
See my latest as of this morning ...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D353GQF3G_4 My first PEQ clone with all mods completed and fully torture tested has failed to supply power from board to either IR Illuminator and both laser modules... Obviously these are both not going to fail so it's a power distribution issue from board The connections at the plugs at board are fully potted and not loose I may get the ambition to open it yet again to get a full prognosis or shall I say coroner report ...... But my conclusion is this : These are NOT worth the $ nor the effort at this point ,,,,this just changed everything ... Get a Sotac or SMS XK68 they just flat out work ....with no need for all this effort Buy a Sotac and an Inforce IR and be done .... |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 12:04:13 PM EDT
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Did the serial number on the last two units that you received begin with an 8?
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Posted: 11/26/2023 12:15:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FoxValleyTacDriver]
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I want to mod it but I also don't want to fuck it up.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 12:23:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shotinthedark7: Gentlemen .... Get a Sotac or SMS XK68 they just flat out work ....with no need for all this effort Buy a Sotac and an Inforce IR and be done .... Which Sotac? Just the perst or do all of them do decent. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 4:47:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MSOGDAWG]
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@Shotinthedark7
Do you order straight from SOTAC or is there someone in the US that sells product for them? |
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