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Posted: 1/6/2024 11:45:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Andrewsky]
Right now I am using a Remington 700 in .30-06 with a 22" barrel but I'm wondering if I used something like a .45-70 would I get a better ring?  Or do I need to step up to something like .300 Weatherby?  Is it the mass of the bullet or the energy that matters?  I want to hear my hits better.
Link Posted: 1/7/2024 12:08:56 AM EDT
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I think the volume of ring is more dependent on the type of steel - mild, hardened, etc. or steel hardness. I also know for a fact it also depends how the steel is hung.
I don't think a 7mm vs 300 wm vs 45-70 will make a big difference. They may have a slight tone variation but decibel level imo won't change much.
I shoot a few different locations here and they all sound different to me.

just my 2 cents.
Link Posted: 1/7/2024 1:58:26 AM EDT
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50BMG
Link Posted: 1/7/2024 2:40:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Normlizer:
50BMG
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Sadly my range is going fudd.  They've banned 50 BMG, and are putting on training courses with an age 21 and up requirement.
Link Posted: 1/7/2024 3:30:53 AM EDT
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You respond to 50BMG? lol, good luck.
Link Posted: 1/7/2024 5:43:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WUPHF] [#5]
Realistically, it should just be a simple question of physics.  Choose something with a heavier projectile, a projectile that is traveling faster than your current 30.06 at that range (preferably without stepping down in projectile weight), or both.  

That said, are you partially deaf?  

I sometimes have issues hearing hits at 800-1000 with certain guns/cartridges, but I’ve never once had an issue hearing hits on steel at 300y, even with super short 5.56 guns on a busy range with people shooting obnoxiously braked magnums.
Link Posted: 1/7/2024 5:48:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cardplayer:
I think the volume of ring is more dependent on the type of steel - mild, hardened, etc. or steel hardness. I also know for a fact it also depends how the steel is hung.
I don't think a 7mm vs 300 wm vs 45-70 will make a big difference. They may have a slight tone variation but decibel level imo won't change much.
I shoot a few different locations here and they all sound different to me.

just my 2 cents.
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This too.  My range has a few steel targets that are more securely affixed to their mounting posts and a few that have had bushes kind of overgrown around them.  Both are not as loud when hit as other steel that is mounted on stands that allow the plate to swing when hit.

That said, at 300y, I still don’t think I have an issue hearing hits.
Link Posted: 1/7/2024 1:56:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WUPHF:
Realistically, it should just be a simple question of physics.  Choose something with a heavier projectile, a projectile that is traveling faster than your current 30.06 at that range (preferably without stepping down in projectile weight), or both.  

That said, are you partially deaf?  

I sometimes have issues hearing hits at 800-1000 with certain guns/cartridges, but I've never once had an issue hearing hits on steel at 300y, even with super short 5.56 guns on a busy range with people shooting obnoxiously braked magnums.
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It's partly that I'm wearing hearing protection but also that there are a lot of other people shooting guns at the same time.
Link Posted: 1/8/2024 10:32:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WUPHF:


This too.  My range has a few steel targets that are more securely affixed to their mounting posts and a few that have had bushes kind of overgrown around them.  Both are not as loud when hit as other steel that is mounted on stands that allow the plate to swing when hit.

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Larger and thinner plates ring more loudly as well.
Link Posted: 1/8/2024 11:40:59 AM EDT
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I have no problem hearing my hits at 300 with a 223.    30.06 ought to be plenty
Link Posted: 1/8/2024 4:58:01 PM EDT
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.408 CheyTac
Link Posted: 1/12/2024 7:42:11 PM EDT
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I can hear hits on my plates with 22LR at 300 yards.  You might be using the wrong steel.
Link Posted: 1/12/2024 9:51:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jus228:
I can hear hits on my plates with 22LR at 300 yards.  You might be using the wrong steel.
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To clarify this is the steel owned by the range, not by me.
Link Posted: 1/14/2024 11:16:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Normlizer:
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20mm Bushmaster. Once.

A .577 Minie ball loaded hot is also noticeable, but your shoulder will notice it more. Chances are the fudds will let you shoot 50 bmg after that
Link Posted: 1/16/2024 10:39:39 PM EDT
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375hh
Link Posted: 1/21/2024 7:49:13 PM EDT
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20mm HE.
Link Posted: 2/7/2024 9:29:15 PM EDT
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Electronic earpro? How is 30-06 not loud at only 300?  I hear 5.56 just fine at 400 with cheap peltors and can barely hear it ping at 700.
Link Posted: 3/19/2024 7:58:52 AM EDT
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Electronic earpro? How is 30-06 not loud at only 300?  I hear 5.56 just fine at 400 with cheap peltors and can barely hear it ping at 700.
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This
Link Posted: 3/19/2024 8:02:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dmk0210:
Larger and thinner plates ring more loudly as well.
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Originally Posted By dmk0210:
Originally Posted By WUPHF:


This too.  My range has a few steel targets that are more securely affixed to their mounting posts and a few that have had bushes kind of overgrown around them.  Both are not as loud when hit as other steel that is mounted on stands that allow the plate to swing when hit.

Larger and thinner plates ring more loudly as well.



Cutting a center hole for a flapper also kills the "ring"
Link Posted: 3/22/2024 12:24:04 AM EDT
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You might enjoy a Shiloh Sharps 1874 repro in .45-70 for maximum Wha-BOOM at the firing line and Klang! down range on a steel plate.
Link Posted: 3/30/2024 4:24:15 PM EDT
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Shoot some Tannerite instead!
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