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Posted: 12/19/2023 4:39:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: Finally got a chance to get out and collect some chrono data on my Rem 1.5 vs SyA primer loads. You'll notice the rounds primed with SyA are 20thou shorter. I loaded up 500rds with the Rem 1.5s at 1.140" and my new Platypus 2011 didn't like that, so I bumped it down to 1.120" and loaded 300rds with the Rem 1.5 for the Platypus and left that seating depth for the 100rds of SyA primed rounds I loaded at the end of the session. Going forward my 147gr RN OAL will be 1.110" to give me some wiggle room on a dirty Platypus chamber. BL: I see no appreciable difference in the SyA vs Rem 1.5 primers. They did feel like they needed a touch more pressure to fully seat them in the range pick-up brass I have, but nothing too egregious. I fired 30 of the 100rds I loaded and had no issues with failure to fire. The SyA actually gave some tighter ES/SD numbers in the three pistols, but with the seating depth change and the fact that I'm using range pick-up brass I wouldn't want to hang my hat on that being a trend just yet. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/302703/SyA_vs_Rem_1_5_JPG-3063193.JPG Didn't get a chance to take a pic of the 2 versions of primers after firing did you? Rem 1 1/2 are known to have a thinner primer cup. Wondering if a visual comparison would give any indication if the SyA primer cups are thicker or the same. |
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Posted: 12/20/2023 8:53:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blowout: Didn't get a chance to take a pic of the 2 versions of primers after firing did you? Rem 1 1/2 are known to have a thinner primer cup. Wondering if a visual comparison would give any indication if the SyA primer cups are thicker or the same. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blowout: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: Finally got a chance to get out and collect some chrono data on my Rem 1.5 vs SyA primer loads. You'll notice the rounds primed with SyA are 20thou shorter. I loaded up 500rds with the Rem 1.5s at 1.140" and my new Platypus 2011 didn't like that, so I bumped it down to 1.120" and loaded 300rds with the Rem 1.5 for the Platypus and left that seating depth for the 100rds of SyA primed rounds I loaded at the end of the session. Going forward my 147gr RN OAL will be 1.110" to give me some wiggle room on a dirty Platypus chamber. BL: I see no appreciable difference in the SyA vs Rem 1.5 primers. They did feel like they needed a touch more pressure to fully seat them in the range pick-up brass I have, but nothing too egregious. I fired 30 of the 100rds I loaded and had no issues with failure to fire. The SyA actually gave some tighter ES/SD numbers in the three pistols, but with the seating depth change and the fact that I'm using range pick-up brass I wouldn't want to hang my hat on that being a trend just yet. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/302703/SyA_vs_Rem_1_5_JPG-3063193.JPG Didn't get a chance to take a pic of the 2 versions of primers after firing did you? Rem 1 1/2 are known to have a thinner primer cup. Wondering if a visual comparison would give any indication if the SyA primer cups are thicker or the same. I did not think to look at them as I was firing and did not keep them separated when I picked up brass and put it in the tumbler when I got home, sorry. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/28/2023 1:58:13 PM EDT
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Bought 5000 SP and 5000 209 shotgun primers. the SP run fine in my STI 9major open gun, which will set off 5.56 primers LOL. In my Production Glock with lightened everything, forget it. If your gun is stock they should light off. I did notice, if you look at the SyA anvils they are not as "proud" as other primers, this means you have to make sure you fully seat them.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/28/2023 1:59:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Fly: I did see a slight increase in velocity going from Winchester SPP to the SYA's. Gun used was a stock P320, and velocities measured with a Labradar. Winchester SPP, 4.6gr of HP-38 1111, 1117, 1132, 1110, 1120. SD was 7.9. SYA SPP, 4.6gr of HP-38 1120, 1131, 1153, 1167, 1142. SD was 16.4 are you using mixed brass? that will pretty much invalidate any small differences. I have heard - not verified - that they are pretty close to SRPs. |
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Posted: 12/28/2023 2:01:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frank_ge: are you using mixed brass? that will pretty much invalidate any small differences. I have heard - not verified - that they are pretty close to SRPs. I am using mixed brass. |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 10:33:38 AM EDT
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More SyA vs Rem 1.5 data. This time in my G26
3.4gr Bullseye 147gr J-Ames RN SyA SP primer OAL: 1.120” Range pick up brass 10rd string Lo: 920 Hi: 958 Avg: 939 ES: 38 SD: 11.7 3.4gr Bullseye 147gr J-Ames RN Rem 1.5 SP primer OAL: 1.120” Range pick up brass 10rd string Lo: 888 Hi: 931 Avg: 914 ES: 43 SD: 15.0 |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 5:11:31 PM EDT
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Bought 4k of these and they arrived Thursday, loaded up 50 them in my standard range load of 135g TC Blue Bullets over 5.6gr of True Blue using mixed brass.
They ran through and primed very easy on my LNL and seated properly without any issues. Will try and get to the range tomorrow to see how well they run. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 6:57:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dyeager535]
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Got mine today.
Random sample of one, the Argentine SPP is .117" tall, CCI SPP is .119". I couldn't tell the difference just looking at them. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 9:18:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dyeager535: Got mine today. Random sample of one, the Argentine SPP is .117" tall, CCI SPP is .119". I couldn't tell the difference just looking at them. I got my 10K order in today as well. Your post got me curious, so I measured a CCI 550 (SPP magnum), a Federal SPP match, and one of my SYA's. CCI550 - 1.18 SYA - 1.13 Fed - 1.13 Not sure what that means, but food for thought at any rate. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:48:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Fly: I got my 10K order in today as well. Your post got me curious, so I measured a CCI 550 (SPP magnum), a Federal SPP match, and one of my SYA's. CCI550 - 1.18 SYA - 1.13 Fed - 1.13 Not sure what that means, but food for thought at any rate. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Fly: Originally Posted By dyeager535: Got mine today. Random sample of one, the Argentine SPP is .117" tall, CCI SPP is .119". I couldn't tell the difference just looking at them. I got my 10K order in today as well. Your post got me curious, so I measured a CCI 550 (SPP magnum), a Federal SPP match, and one of my SYA's. CCI550 - 1.18 SYA - 1.13 Fed - 1.13 Not sure what that means, but food for thought at any rate. I wonder if the SyA primers being a bit shorter is also leading to folks not seating them all the way in the primer pocket. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 2:50:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: I wonder if the SyA primers being a bit shorter is also leading to folks not seating them all the way in the primer pocket. Entirely possible. For me at least, my presses (550 and 650) don't give me the ability to really adjust the priming process. Fortunately 95% of what I load is 9mm and my 650 seems to seat them deep enough that I'm not seeing issues in 9mm. |
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Posted: 1/28/2024 11:43:48 PM EDT
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I bought 3k of the SA SPPs since I was down to less than 200 Remington SPPs. I will keep track of my results, but so far no failures out of a whopping 9 shots. I'm working up a 147 gr HST load for my Shield Plus to mimic the velocity of the factory HST rounds that I count on daily, so there will be more data to come.
Priming device: Lee Ram Prime Brass: Fiocchi from 2007ish Gun: S&W Shield Plus |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 10:19:51 PM EDT
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I shot my original test load of 50 rounds of these about two weeks ago. Had 2 that required a 2nd strike to light off. Loaded up 250 of them tonight for another evaluation this weekend. I fully expect these to run 100% as the 2 were more than likely not seated fully. I am going to believe the number of members here who've gone through thousands with no issues.
Had also ordered another 4k earlier last week and had them within 4 days of the placing the order. Tough to beat no hazmat and free shipping on them. |
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Posted: 2/3/2024 1:21:37 PM EDT
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Loaded up a few test round in 350 Legend AR with these. They all went bang on the first hit. Some stood slightly proud, took a bit of a push to seat them but no run away semi-auto or slamfires. No ideas on velocity but accuracy was good enough.
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Posted: 2/3/2024 5:08:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GaryM: Loaded up a few test round in 350 Legend AR with these. They all went bang on the first hit. Some stood slightly proud, took a bit of a push to seat them but no run away semi-auto or slamfires. No ideas on velocity but accuracy was good enough. Pistol or rifle primers? |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 2/3/2024 6:39:39 PM EDT
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I shot about 300rds of 357 and 38 in 3 different guns. NO DUDS. 6.5" Taurus 357 tracker, 4" M66 Taurus 357, Charter Arms 38 spec. They work in all of my guns except the Ruger 380 security.
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MT, USA
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Posted: 2/3/2024 8:24:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spyderboy03]
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Ran 35 ish of these today and all went bang. I did prime on a Lee bench primer but loaded on an LNL AP. CZ P-10C and P-10F.
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Posted: 2/3/2024 9:04:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blowout: Pistol or rifle primers? Small rifle primers |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 2/3/2024 11:17:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GaryM: Small rifle primers They don't make small rifle primers Just small pistol and 209 shotgun primers. |
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Posted: 2/4/2024 9:20:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GaryM]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tommee-boy-72: They don't make small rifle primers Just small pistol and 209 shotgun primers. Oops, my bad. With all the primer talk I confused myself. These are what I got.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/4/2024 3:51:58 PM EDT
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I just tested out the servicios primers in my glock 17 today.
Out of the 40 I shot, all of them went bang. They were loaded on a dillon 650. I was working on a new loading for uspsa shooting. 135gr RMR Match winners 3.5gr tite group. 1.10" oal Did 100 with 3 different primers in each batch. Win SPP, Augilla SPP and the Servicios. All shot about the same. I did not get to chrono them yet though. Funny enough, my buddy loaded 15 on the same press, but different load and he had 3 failures to fire. Those 3 went bang on the second shot. Glock 19. I am going to load up some more and will report back after firing a few hundred. I bought 6k of them. I figured, worst case scenario, I relegate them to PCC duty. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 2/4/2024 4:51:18 PM EDT
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if your springs are worn out you are going to have problems. At least these primers are showing people that they have an issue with your gun.
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Posted: 2/4/2024 8:34:07 PM EDT
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A buddy of mine gave me 100 to try. They seated very well and easy with my 650. I made sure to seat them as deep as possible to avoid misfires.
I'm getting a 10% failure rate with my stock G19. Kind of disappointing. |
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Posted: 2/11/2024 1:47:29 PM EDT
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Shot 214 of the 250 I had loaded up the other day. 213 of them lit off with no issues, the one failure lit off with a 2nd strike. I am going with a primer not completely seated. Didn't think to verify the brand of brass for the failed one. Will do that next time.
Shooting my XDm and a PSA Dagger. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/3/2024 8:31:50 PM EDT
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Loaded another 200 rounds of 9mm last night.
All went bang 1st time today. Glock19 gen 4 stock. |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 10:41:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grumple: Loaded another 200 rounds of 9mm last night. All went bang 1st time today. Glock19 gen 4 stock. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 9:31:35 AM EDT
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Shot 100 of these yesterday.
30 in a stock Glock 26, 30 in a stock Glock 43 & 40 in a Sauer 38H 32ACP. All 100 went bang on first strike. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:58:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tommee-boy-72: if your springs are worn out you are going to have problems. At least these primers are showing people that they have an issue with your gun. I bet a Wolff extra power striker spring would solve the issue in problem pistols. |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:26:30 AM EDT
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I shot a class this weekend that was a 400 round +/- class. Not sure exactly how many I shot, but my ammo can is half full at best and I went with 800 ish rounds. Load was RMR 124gr Nukes over 4.3gr Alliant Sport Pistol in mixed brass with these primers. I did hand prime with a Lee bench primer as the brass was already sized and I need to work on the priming system of my Hornady LNL AP. 100% first hit ignition rate with my CZ P-10C and P-10F.
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Posted: 4/29/2024 7:42:36 PM EDT
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I ran 49 more 147gr 9mm rounds loaded with the SyA primers on Sunday in a 9mm Kimber 1911 without any issues.
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USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 8:35:07 PM EDT
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I've ran another few hundred through stock g19 gen 4 and a cz 75 compact. No issues. 100% bang on first strike
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