Started with a Leupold MK-AR, then switched to a Leupold FX-II. Now using a White Oak DMR. The DMR has a 7.5 moa circle with a small dot in the center like the FX-II. Only shot a couple of matches with it but I don't think it was worth the $$$ I spent over the FX-II. I thought the 7.5 moa circle would be the hot setup but it might be a little too small. Just my opinion. Beginners might be better off with just a simple crosshair.