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Posted: 10/31/2016 2:03:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: November5]
Cancelled as Faxon is going to be listening mag these as a regular SKU soon.
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Posted: 10/31/2016 2:12:24 PM EDT
[#1]
Sweet! Maybe my next build
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Posted: 10/31/2016 2:13:46 PM EDT
[#2]
Is this a typo? Didn't you mean 10.5"? There's a whole thread about that length, and no one that I can see calling for 10.3s...
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Posted: 10/31/2016 2:18:20 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jekbrown:
Is this a typo? Didn't you mean 10.5"? There's a whole thread about that length, and no one that I can see calling for 10.3s... If everyone wants 10.5 then 10.5 it is. I just figured might as well cut as much weight as possible. |
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Posted: 10/31/2016 2:26:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jekbrown]
[#4]
Awesome, can you adjust the specs/thread title? I already have my F1 pending with 10.5...so that's what I, and the other people in the industry thread, have been waiting for.
 
I'll share everywhere that I can think of so we can make this happen... |
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Posted: 10/31/2016 2:34:50 PM EDT
[#5]
Faxon is on-board with Josh.
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Posted: 10/31/2016 2:58:49 PM EDT
[#6]
Niiiiice.
This is gonna be epic.
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Posted: 10/31/2016 3:22:51 PM EDT
[#7]
Yep, I want one. In!
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Posted: 10/31/2016 3:30:53 PM EDT
[#8]
Can we do one for a 14.5" pencil too?
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Posted: 10/31/2016 3:33:02 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TexasTechVette:
Can we do one for a 14.5" pencil too? No, they already make those. |
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Posted: 10/31/2016 5:15:54 PM EDT
[#10]
10.3" w/ .625 GB
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Posted: 10/31/2016 5:22:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: November5]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEASGNoMercy:
10.3" w/ .625 GB Gas block journal will be .625, it's a pencil barrel. Difference in weight between a 10.3 and 10.5 is negligible. Also, I wouldn't worry about having an approved Form 1 for a 10.5. Less than a quarter inch isn't even enough to bother notifying the ATF. |
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Posted: 10/31/2016 5:51:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NoM3rcy]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshAston:
Gas block journal will be .625, it's a pencil barrel. Difference in weight between a 10.3 and 10.5 is negligible. Also, I wouldn't worry about having an approved Form 1 for a 10.5. Less than a quarter inch isn't even enough to bother notifying the ATF. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By NEASGNoMercy:
10.3" w/ .625 GB Gas block journal will be .625, it's a pencil barrel. Difference in weight between a 10.3 and 10.5 is negligible. Also, I wouldn't worry about having an approved Form 1 for a 10.5. Less than a quarter inch isn't even enough to bother notifying the ATF. Has nothing to due with weight. It's that the 10.3 barrel is flush with the end of a 9.5" rail when the threads start. It provides a seamless transition from rail to supressor (AAC, Surefire) with a 9.5" Geissele or DD MK18 RAS rail. There's plenty of 10.5 LW barrels on the market, not nearly enough 10.3", which is in demand. |
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Posted: 10/31/2016 6:39:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ScaryBlackGuns]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEASGNoMercy:
Has nothing to due with weight. It's that the 10.3 barrel is flush with the end of a 9.5" rail when the threads start. It provides a seamless transition from rail to supressor (AAC, Surefire) with a 9.5" Geissele or DD MK18 RAS rail. There's plenty of 10.5 LW barrels on the market, not nearly enough 10.3", which is in demand. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEASGNoMercy:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By NEASGNoMercy:
10.3" w/ .625 GB Gas block journal will be .625, it's a pencil barrel. Difference in weight between a 10.3 and 10.5 is negligible. Also, I wouldn't worry about having an approved Form 1 for a 10.5. Less than a quarter inch isn't even enough to bother notifying the ATF. Has nothing to due with weight. It's that the 10.3 barrel is flush with the end of a 9.5" rail when the threads start. It provides a seamless transition from rail to supressor (AAC, Surefire) with a 9.5" Geissele or DD MK18 RAS rail. There's plenty of 10.5 LW barrels on the market, not nearly enough 10.3", which is in demand. Completely agree. If I am going to tap into my stripper education fund for another project it better be for a hotness that no one else is making. While you are at reduce the gas port to .073. |
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Posted: 10/31/2016 6:54:22 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEASGNoMercy: There's plenty of 10.5 LW barrels on the market, not nearly enough 10.3", which is in demand. 
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Posted: 10/31/2016 6:57:13 PM EDT
[#15]
I'll be in for one 10.3"
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Posted: 11/1/2016 3:15:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jekbrown]
[#16]
wait, who the hell wants a bbl flush with a rail anymore? cans go UNDER rails people, all the cool kids know that!
10.5. Slap a MI 18" rail on there and bam, tacticool as ****. |
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Posted: 11/1/2016 4:20:51 AM EDT
[#17]
I'm good with either length. My form 1 is for a 10.5 but that shouldn't matter
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Posted: 11/1/2016 5:06:20 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TexasTechVette:
Can we do one for a 14.5" pencil too? Let me clarify. 14.5" or 14.7"carbine, |
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Posted: 11/1/2016 6:18:28 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TexasTechVette: Let me clarify. 14.5" or 14.7"carbine, Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TexasTechVette: Originally Posted By TexasTechVette: Can we do one for a 14.5" pencil too? Let me clarify. 14.5" or 14.7"carbine, |
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Posted: 11/1/2016 8:19:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NoM3rcy]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshAston:
There's one, I wouldn't call that plenty. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By NEASGNoMercy:
There's plenty of 10.5 LW barrels on the market, not nearly enough 10.3", which is in demand. 3 that I know of right now. Odin works, Battle Arms Dev, V7 Fluted. No 10.3" however, and I guess only 1 with a .625 Journal
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Posted: 11/1/2016 8:35:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jekbrown]
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEASGNoMercy:
3 that I know of right now. Odin works, Battle Arms Dev, V7 Fluted. No 10.3" however, and I guess only 1 with a .625 Journal Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEASGNoMercy:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By NEASGNoMercy:
There's plenty of 10.5 LW barrels on the market, not nearly enough 10.3", which is in demand. 3 that I know of right now. Odin works, Battle Arms Dev, V7 Fluted. No 10.3" however, and I guess only 1 with a .625 Journal the BAD is over $400 and the V7 10.5 is over $450 with flutting. So yeah, Odin is about it. Personally I think 10.5 is the better option. Ultralight guy doesn't have a rail going to the threads anyway...to heavy. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/2/2016 12:10:51 PM EDT
[#22]
In either length, "in" for 1.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/2/2016 5:12:35 PM EDT
[#23]
In for the 10.3" version
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PA, USA
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Posted: 11/2/2016 6:25:35 PM EDT
[#24]
Besides price what are the differences in this barrel and Ballistic Advantage 10.3". 625 barrel? Just a curious question since my next project is a SBR.
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Posted: 11/2/2016 6:42:57 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chris16371: Besides price what are the differences in this barrel and Ballistic Advantage 10.3". 625 barrel? Just a curious question since my next project is a SBR. |
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Posted: 11/3/2016 10:32:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: November5]
[#26]
Updated, 10.3" with a .073" gas port. Currently at 9 8 barrels spoken for. If you claimed one anywhere else without sending me a message or email, I didn't count it. I'm only counting what's explicitly stated in this thread or a personal message.
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Posted: 11/3/2016 11:32:51 AM EDT
[#27]
Just so everyone is on the same page, can you list the user names of those that are on the confirmed "in list"? I'll see if I can't rally some support for this...
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Posted: 11/3/2016 11:39:06 AM EDT
[#28]
Done. It's 8, I accidentally counted kiltakaze twice earlier.
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Posted: 11/4/2016 12:30:32 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshAston:
Done. It's 8, I accidentally counted kiltakaze twice earlier. Yup, solo uno para mi |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 2:44:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jekbrown]
[#30]
hey JA, can you post an email address so that I can refer non-arfcommers directly to you for this? nm, I'm an idiot who skims the OP and asks dumb questions.
more intelligent question: I presume people are gonna run adjustable gas blocks with these. Wouldn't you want a larger diameter gb hole and tune things with the gb? |
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Posted: 11/5/2016 7:03:51 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jekbrown: hey JA, can you post an email address so that I can refer non-arfcommers directly to you for this? nm, I'm an idiot who skims the OP and asks dumb questions. more intelligent question: I presume people are gonna run adjustable gas blocks with these. Wouldn't you want a larger diameter gb hole and tune things with the gb? |
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Posted: 11/9/2016 12:31:25 PM EDT
[#32]
Come on people, time to get uppers built for all of those lowers you panic bought.
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Posted: 11/9/2016 9:37:53 PM EDT
[#33]
Indeed. I've been swamped with other crap, but I'll up my game on outreach for this. There's a market for these for sure, we just gotta find them.
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Posted: 11/11/2016 11:07:40 PM EDT
[#34]
Will the barrel be dimpled for gas-block installation? And what would be a good .625 gas-block for running suppressed more often than not?
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Posted: 11/12/2016 2:34:40 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By txjim42: Will the barrel be dimpled for gas-block installation? And what would be a good .625 gas-block for running suppressed more often than not? SLR or MicroMOA would be my recommendation. |
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Posted: 11/12/2016 6:25:50 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshAston:
I don't recall seeing that option on the order form. Not saying they aren't, I don't know. SLR or MicroMOA would be my recommendation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By txjim42:
Will the barrel be dimpled for gas-block installation? And what would be a good .625 gas-block for running suppressed more often than not? SLR or MicroMOA would be my recommendation. Faxon typically does not dimple their barrels |
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Posted: 11/12/2016 6:30:48 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Faxon typically does not dimple their barrels Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By txjim42:
Will the barrel be dimpled for gas-block installation? And what would be a good .625 gas-block for running suppressed more often than not? SLR or MicroMOA would be my recommendation. Faxon typically does not dimple their barrels They have stated that in prior posts. |
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Posted: 11/12/2016 8:58:49 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PalmettoRed86:
They have stated that in prior posts. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PalmettoRed86:
Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By txjim42:
Will the barrel be dimpled for gas-block installation? And what would be a good .625 gas-block for running suppressed more often than not? SLR or MicroMOA would be my recommendation. Faxon typically does not dimple their barrels They have stated that in prior posts. That is up to the Group Buy organizer. We are treating this as a custom barrel purchase. We can add the dimple for a small added cost. |
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Posted: 11/13/2016 1:44:41 PM EDT
[#39]
Screw it I'm in.10.3" and whatever port diameter you guys are into. I'd be using it suppressed 100% of the time.
We need to get G to make some .625" super gas blocks. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2016 6:18:42 PM EDT
[#40]
What's the projected weight of the barrel?
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Posted: 11/15/2016 6:23:50 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SOCOM76: What's the projected weight of the barrel? |
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Posted: 11/15/2016 7:08:21 PM EDT
[#42]
What's that estimate based on?
I figure a fair comparison would be to the Odin 10.5". Light profile, and a .750 gas block shoulder, it's 15.5oz. A 10.3 in pencil profile with a .625 gas block shoulder should be in the realm of -14oz. |
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Posted: 11/15/2016 7:48:30 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SOCOM76: What's that estimate based on? I figure a fair comparison would be to the Odin 10.5". Light profile, and a .750 gas block shoulder, it's 15.5oz. A 10.3 in pencil profile with a .625 gas block shoulder should be in the realm of -14oz. |
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Posted: 11/15/2016 8:12:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jekbrown]
[#44]
Going from 16 to 14.5" cuts 1.6oz on faxon pencils. That's 1.06666oz per inch. So a 10.3 should be just a bit over 13oz, unless my math skills have deteriorated even more than I think. Man. With a TI GB and a short carbon fiber rail, this is gonna be anti-front heavy!
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Posted: 11/15/2016 9:28:45 PM EDT
[#45]
A cylinder of .550" diameter that's 4.2" has a volume of 1 cubic inch. The volume of the bore is roughly 0.17 cubic inches, so that leaves the portion cut off at 0.83 cubic inches. According to aqua-calc the weight of that amount of steel is 3.79 ounces. So 13.81 ounces. But to err on the conservative side, until we get an official weight from Faxon I'm estimating around 15 ounces.
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Posted: 11/16/2016 1:39:23 AM EDT
[#46]
I'm in for one of these barrels. Please add me to the buy list.
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Posted: 11/16/2016 8:41:45 AM EDT
[#47]
Hmm. I abandoned my LW build but recent events may prompt me to restart it--less focus on ammo, mags, etc.. Not commiting to the group buy yet but thinking about it and subscribing to the thread.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/29/2016 8:40:29 PM EDT
[#48]
Update?
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Posted: 11/29/2016 8:59:06 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SOCOM76: Update? You don't need to be a member here to get in on it. You can email me at [email protected]. Or send me a PM on WeVo, same username. Or Josh on the Grendel forums or Form1Suppressors board. |
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Posted: 11/30/2016 1:23:48 AM EDT
[#50]
i got in one my two local boards. I'm a member on m4carbine as well...trying to find a good place for it there. Honestly, the GD forum here would prolly get it seen by more people than anywhere else. Not sure if that's against the GD rules tho...
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