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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:33:29 PM EDT
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WORD. ETA: Page 3 pwnage...beoyatches... 
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:35:01 PM EDT
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 "We hold these truths to be self-evident..."  |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:47:52 PM EDT
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This is where I jump off your silly boat. Not this shit again... I remember 8 years ago, right on this very site and BEFORE your time here sport, your types were hammering Libertarians, serving up the guilt trip if they voted 'un-winnable' candidate, lots of drama, fear mongering etc...Been there done that. Guess what genius???? Your guys won as I predicted anyway, and right now this country is in a bigger mess than it's been in since the Viet War. And around and around we go... 
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:54:47 PM EDT
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The Dems and the RINOs would love to put the 2nd Amendment folks completely outside the two party framework forever.
Vote for Giuliani and you'll help them do it. The NRA will feel as friendless and unwelcome in Washington for four years (minimum), as Giuliani did during the 10 minutes he spoke to the NRA. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:58:28 PM EDT
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99% of all politicians are evil. Republican, Democrat, whatever. EVIL.
Politicians that are running for President are doing so for their own agenda, not ours. We can only hope that our elected officials' agendas are close enough to ours. The only problem is even if their agenda is close to ours, there are enough other politicians that can squash it. Yes I have lost all faith in our electoral system, our politicians and our government as a whole. I could vote my entire life and its not going to change a damn thing. Now if I had a few million that I could "donate", then maybe something would get done. But sadly I don't have that kind of cash to get a voice in our current government. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 12:00:28 AM EDT
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In my 42 years I have yet to see an election where ANY choice on the ballot wasn't "stupid".
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Posted: 10/6/2007 12:12:12 AM EDT
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I want a conservative to vote for. If one cannot be provided to me, I'm voting the extreme opposite.
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Posted: 10/6/2007 12:14:43 AM EDT
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If Perot is to be a lesson, it should be for all those people that voted Bush because they thought everyone else would vote for him.
So don't tell me how to use my vote if you won't change your vote for the better good as well. (This is in no way saying Perot was a better candidate) |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 12:16:26 AM EDT
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Aside from Democrats there are 4 people that will not get my vote. Ron Paul, The Yankee, The rhino from mass, and the crazy old POW.
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Posted: 10/6/2007 12:18:25 AM EDT
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Vote for whomever you think is best suited for the office of the President.
I am so sick of people saying that a vote for someone other than R or D is a wasted vote. Newsflash: In presidential elections, your vote is merely a poll of your OPINION and carries NO legal weight WHATSOEVER. If you cast your ballot contrary to your own opinion, you have just wasted your vote. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 12:20:35 AM EDT
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Ain't that the truth. If more people realized that and actually acted accordingly, we may not be in the lesser of two evils argument that we have been in for so very long. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 1:57:45 AM EDT
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Yep. But people will be wargamming even in the primaries. Which is a shame cause it weakens the party in the long run. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 2:05:29 AM EDT
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Tancredo is the only candidate with a solid voting record being tough on illegal immigrats. if illegal immigration is your top issue then tancredo is your candidate. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 2:08:12 AM EDT
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And voting for him encourages the party to offer 12 more Rudy clones the next election. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 2:13:50 AM EDT
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Amen 
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Posted: 10/6/2007 2:15:36 AM EDT
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He seems to be my top man in everyone of those quizes I fill out. Guess I better go figure out who he really "is". |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 2:18:48 AM EDT
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Agreed - if Guliani gets it than the Republican Party can kiss its Conservative and Christian electoral base goodbye. I'll be interested to see how retarded the Republican Party leadership becomes this time around  If the Republican Party seeks its own internal destruction, it'll show in this next election. Like Guliani, our current President supports a renewal of the "Assault Weapons" Ban and amnesty for illegal immigrants. Yet some here will still be bewildered at the thought of people ditching the Republican Party over PRINCIPLE. Voting for "the party line" no matter what is perhaps the dumbest concept ever originated. I'll stay off of the RINO short bus.  |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 5:12:02 AM EDT
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Many here are not principled conservatives. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 5:56:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:04:18 AM EDT
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You might as well vote for Clintobama. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:06:34 AM EDT
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That is in no way proven despite how many people like to gratuitously assert it. Perot pretty much pulled equally from both parties. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:06:52 AM EDT
[#22]
no, just vote for hitlery and be done with it.
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:07:23 AM EDT
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Lets face it- the race is going to come down to: The slow train to socialism. The express bullet train to socialism. Or the conservative train that ain't leaving the station. Remember, if you don't choose which train to ride, you will be put on one (most likely the express) whether you like it or not. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:11:23 AM EDT
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Right...you want Hillary to tell doctors how to treat their patients? You want Hillary to tell business owners how much profit they can make? Think before you vote. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:16:35 AM EDT
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Not even likely. Hillary will not only sign every gun control bill that comes to her desk, she will also sign every single socialist bill the dems write. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:24:58 AM EDT
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It is the HEIGHT of irresponsibility to the franchise to FAIL to vote for whom you WANT to, if it is based on sound judgment. I do not adhere to, and will not be subjected to the ASSININE belief that one should vote for "who's gonna maybe win". I owe the Republican party NOTHING. and NO PARTY will receive a flat vote from me. Your request is beyond silly, it is an affront to the responsibility of voting. I will vote for whom I wish to, the consequences will be what they may be. To simply vote for the candidate is tacit approval for them to continue serving up spineless jellyfish RINOs. I am so damned sick of the lot of 'em I could puke.
I really cannot overstate how irresponsible I regard your instructions to be. You can others are saying that it's voters like us, who vote our beliefs, that put Clinton in office? Bullshit. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:26:37 AM EDT
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And giving the election to Hillary is a FAST train to socialism. 
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:30:18 AM EDT
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same here, and this one isn't going to be close. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:31:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:32:54 AM EDT
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That's right. Don't vote for the candidate of YOUR choice, vote however some person on the internet who calls you stupid tells you to. Or you're stupid.
Is this going to be the Republican strategy AGAIN? It's ironic that the folks promoting this think it's the other guy that's going to elect Democrats. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:33:37 AM EDT
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It's not ALL about guns, folks. Think socialized health care. Think new taxes. Think about someone who wants to "take those profits" from private companies.
Gun rights are a HUGELY important issue, yes. But you have to think about other shit as well. Remember how we (well, not me) "taught them a lesson" in 2006? THAT worked out well, didn't it?
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:40:51 AM EDT
[#32]
I made it clear that I am voting R regardless of if I have to hold my nose doing it.
Primaries will be Thompson. Fuck voting 3rd party or write ins, I am not handing Hillary the win. Even if we have a piece of shit like Giuliani it doesn't matter that badly with a Republican congress. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:42:06 AM EDT
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Smartest advice in this thread. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:42:21 AM EDT
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If they are on the ballot and you think they are the best person for the job, VOTE FOR THEM. To suggest otherwise is un-american. That kind of talk sickens me. I will not vote for the person I think "has a chance to win" I will vote for the man I want to win. Friking cowardice. Sickening ballot bullying. Whiny pissy "if you dont vote for the guy I want to win you are wasting a vote" bullshit.
Truman is SOOOOOOO glad folks like that were not as prevalient in those days.... We are by the way... or WERE, before the league of womans voters and some other wankers decided to open up their yaps, a MULTI PARTY SYSTEM not a two party system. This kind of ass-crap talk will do nothing but insure that some day you will ONLY have a choice between to runners, both of which have been hand picked by two of the biggest groups of idiots in the nation. The far right and the far left old men in their grey suits. 
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:45:49 AM EDT
[#35]
++++1! |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:47:56 AM EDT
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... as hard as that concept is to swallow cmjohnson, you are absolutely correct
If you don't support either candidate, DON'T VOTE at all |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:49:16 AM EDT
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I'm voting for the best.
If the best doesn't get the Rep. nomination... FUCKING GODDAMN FINE. THE SHOOTING WILL START THAT MUCH SOONER. BTW, Ron Paul is 70% right with 30% shit-for-brains... and that goes with anyone that votes for him. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:53:03 AM EDT
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It is really surprising to me the amount of people on this board who still have the-- "Well I will still vote for whoever the R's give me."-- This is why GOP candidates continue to go further and further to the left. Because we promise in the end to accept what they give us and we are as spineless as the candidates they offer us. Sorry kids, but every election I am told THIS is going to be the most important election ever. I no longer fall for that scare tactic horseshit. I realize it is going to get far worse before it gets better. It is time to look at the BIG picture. I believe it is time to throw the RINO's out of the Republican party, even if that means we loose a few elections.
The eyes and ears closed, Sheeple mentality you suggest of the conservative voters who are sick of getting screwed by the GOP is something you should be ashamed of. It speaks volumes of your character.
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:55:54 AM EDT
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QTF |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:58:20 AM EDT
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- Penn Jillette |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:58:45 AM EDT
[#41]
... Then go write in Ann Coulter on election day
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:59:43 AM EDT
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You know what's voting stupid? It's voting for a candidate that's pretty much pledged (by word and action) to disarm you just to be sure he gets into office, and then sitting there like a dumb fuck when he actually does it.
If the only two options are both gun-grabbing candidates I sure as hell won't be voting for either. Maybe you can look at your coward-ass face in the mirror knowing you voted your own rights away, but I sure as hell can't. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:01:09 AM EDT
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Hell, I'll put Penn as a write in ... he's got more sense than 99.999% of the politicians anyway. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:03:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:11:57 AM EDT
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You really need to read between his lines. The last sentence is key. The next President will almost certainly nominate at least one Supreme Court Justice. I would REALLY prefer to see The Hildabeast not be allowed to seat another Ruth Vader Ginzburg (ultra liberal for those who don't pay attention). This is our ONE chance in our lifetime to have a Supreme Court which will be tipped into our favor for a change. Right now the Court is split: 4 liberal, 4 conservative (thanks to BUSH!), and one who leans toward liberal. The next appointment will make ALL the difference for two or three decades to come. The silly protest votes, and those who can only see themselves as "principled" for "voting their conscience" are being silly. Sorry folks--it's all about winning. Holding one's nose to vote AGAINST Hildabeast for *whomever* is perfectly worthwhile and HIGHLY productive for the one thing that matters most--Supreme Court appointments.
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:21:17 AM EDT
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The key word here is THINK. There is nothing new about voting for the lessor of two evils. American voter's have been doing that since the first elections held in the U.S. more then two hundred years ago. Everything in politics was and is a compromise including the U.S Constitution and Bill of Rights. Some of you need to get the fuck over it already because it's not going to change. |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:23:11 AM EDT
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FRED!!!!!
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:25:43 AM EDT
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Actually, I understood loud and clear. Even if R-32 was trying to be coy, the statement on its face is the best advice I've seen in this thread. Personal responsibility is a bitch. Be a man and deal with it.
I agree 100%, Mike. ...and the conservative base of the Republican party will keep losing if we continue to cast votes for RINOS/centrists/"moderates" (Fabian Socialists* - every one of them) in the general election. Even if we "win" we lose. WADR, FUCK that. *look it up.
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:29:01 AM EDT
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So vote 3rd party & getting on the fast train to a socialist utopia (Clintonbama land) is better? |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:42:22 AM EDT
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The fast train is more likely to cause a wreck than the slow train which will safely and surely get us to that destination.
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