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Posted: 8/26/2005 1:33:59 AM EDT

[#1]

I forced myself to watch it four times, then did the research on the back story.

I pray my wife never sees it.

Posted: 8/26/2005 3:54:36 AM EDT

[#2]

I have the in the line of duty episode on VHS, I make all my rookies watch it when I break them in. I still have a hard time watching it. sad sad stuff..

Posted: 8/28/2005 5:03:36 AM EDT

[#3]

i almost cant even type it gave me a chill.

i will be sure to pass this on through out my dept.

rest in peace.

Posted: 8/28/2005 4:08:02 PM EDT

[#4]

Damn. I'd never seen that one.

Posted: 8/28/2005 5:00:25 PM EDT

[#5]

I'd never heard nor seen this one before. Thanks for the the link. I think that it is a vital training tool. If anyone has other videos or teaching materials like this, let me know. I need to use this in some upcoming training. The sad part is this, even after watching this I know officers who won't shoot until fired upon.

RIP Deputy Dinkheller..

Posted: 8/28/2005 5:03:13 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:

Why did the officer not fire sooner?

I suspect he was excersizing restraint.... an admirable thing when it comes to professionalism in law enforcemment... but sometimes giving the bad guy the benifit of ones restraint can get you killed.
I once viewed a tape of a traffic stop where the patrolman ordered the passenger in a car to drop a gun. The officer had his pistol leveled at the guy and ordered him multiple times to drop the gun. The passenger didn't move... didn't drop the gun either so... after something like 12 or thirteen orders to drop the fuckin' gun the officer just matter of factly shot the guy... He then dropped the gun.
during the ensuing inquest the question was raised as to whether or not the officer had been wrong in shooting the guy.... Comment from the bench indicated that the court believed the officer was too patient in giving so many warnings.... Officer absolved of all wrong doing.

Posted: 8/28/2005 6:03:29 PM EDT

[#7]

Uhhhh. That makes my stomach turn and head ache. That piece of shit will rot in hell for eternity!

Posted: 8/29/2005 3:48:37 AM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
I'd never heard nor seen this one before. Thanks for the the link. I think that it is a vital training tool. If anyone has other videos or teaching materials like this, let me know. I need to use this in some upcoming training. The sad part is this, even after watching this I know officers who won't shoot until fired upon. head.gif

RIP Deputy Dinkheller..

I have one that I received from ICE or USM I can't remember.

I dont know if I should post it due to it being so graphic. (I dont want to get banned b/c im anew member)

I'm sure some have seen this where the guy was NOT searched.

Posted: 8/29/2005 4:25:14 AM EDT

[#9]

Too Sad for words. I am currently outgrowing my way too nice stage. At 22 I would have been as nice. Now I am learning that monsters are everywhere. And to be prepared to stop them soonest.

Posted: 8/29/2005 6:02:38 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
It is very hard to not armchair quaterback his decisions but Jesus..he should have shot him after his 3rd warning.
We are mandated to give a verbal warning if time permits. 3 is our accepted number of times.
I hope all the LEO bashers that constantly criticize police for being trigger happy watch this!

He should have shot that asshole, when he went for the rifle.

Prayers to family.

Posted: 8/29/2005 6:05:09 AM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
I use this video in my training, along with the video of Constable Daryl Lunsford.

I use it to reinforce the fact that if you have pulled your weapon, then there should be no question about whether or not use of lethal force is authorized. If you are going to pull the gun, be prepared to do the deed, do not wait until the threat engages you first.

I hate saying this kind of shit and picking over the tactics of a fallen brother, but it has to be done.

Rest in Peace, Brother.

Sheep

I think it can be hard for many people to take a life ,to begin with, especially people with some morals.
I don't think any of us knows exactly how we would act in the officers situation unless we have gone through it.

RIP

Posted: 8/29/2005 6:24:13 AM EDT

[#12]

Never saw that before,

fuckin' skell. You get one, outside chance a second "drop the gun" warning, then I'll light you up like a Christmas tree.

Firearms training,Firearms training,Firearms training,Firearms training,Firearms training,Firearms training,Firearms training,Firearms training,Firearms training,Firearms training,Firearms training.

Not criticizing the officer, but it gets most of us angry

, he should still be alive

!

Never get lax on your firearms proficiency training and tactics, EVER!

Posted: 8/29/2005 8:34:53 AM EDT

[#13]

Describe it. Maybe post a link to it?
I am always looking for ofc. survival and patrol techniques training material. Nothing seems to hit home as well as real life video footage.

Quoted:

I have one that I received from ICE or USM I can't remember.

I dont know if I should post it due to it being so graphic. (I dont want to get banned b/c im anew member)

I'm sure some have seen this where the guy was NOT searched.

Posted: 8/29/2005 9:42:44 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Quoted:
I'd never heard nor seen this one before. Thanks for the the link. I think that it is a vital training tool. If anyone has other videos or teaching materials like this, let me know. I need to use this in some upcoming training. The sad part is this, even after watching this I know officers who won't shoot until fired upon.

RIP Deputy Dinkheller..

I have one that I received from ICE or USM I can't remember.

I dont know if I should post it due to it being so graphic. (I dont want to get banned b/c im anew member)

I'm sure some have seen this where the guy was NOT searched.

I think I know what video your referring to, it has been posted before. I can't find it to post it.

WARNING GRAPHIC
ETA: Prisoner suicide

Posted: 8/29/2005 11:00:37 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'd never heard nor seen this one before. Thanks for the the link. I think that it is a vital training tool. If anyone has other videos or teaching materials like this, let me know. I need to use this in some upcoming training. The sad part is this, even after watching this I know officers who won't shoot until fired upon. head.gif

RIP Deputy Dinkheller..

I have one that I received from ICE or USM I can't remember.

I dont know if I should post it due to it being so graphic. (I dont want to get banned b/c im anew member)

I'm sure some have seen this where the guy was NOT searched.

I think I know what video your referring to, it has been posted before. I can't find it to post it.

WARNING GRAPHIC
ETA: Prisoner suicide

that would be it.

Pat searches are VITAL! the scary thing is that how easy it could have been to point the gun out the door a few rounds!

SEARCH YOUR PRISONERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: 9/17/2005 11:16:11 AM EDT

[#16]

[monday morning quarterback]I think he was justified in firing long before he actually did.[/monday morning quarterback]
RIP Deputy Dinkheller
May the other guy burn in hell.

Posted: 9/17/2005 6:30:28 PM EDT

[#17]

Did the perp have a passenger or is that a dog in his truck?

Posted: 9/17/2005 6:42:47 PM EDT

[#18]

FFS

Posted: 9/17/2005 7:08:50 PM EDT

[#19]

RIP.

FWIW

What I can't let myself forget is that these shooters continue to ADVANCE on wounded officers, even after the officer is down. They don't flee until the officer is dead. At Newhall, Miami, and in this case, the shooter pursued a wounded officer(s) to "finish them", as they sought cover in/behind their unit.

Posted: 9/17/2005 8:23:06 PM EDT

[#20]

This is the worse thing I ever saw in training. I have never felt as helpless watching anything, ever.

Rest in Peace.

Posted: 9/17/2005 10:46:56 PM EDT

[#21]

Death Sentence affirmed, with factual summary

http://www2.state.ga.us/Courts/Supreme/pdf/s01p1789.pdf

"In addition to the evidence of the murder, which included the videotaped
depiction of Brannan deliberately shooting a wounded, unconscious police
officer, the State presented evidence that Brannan had shot in the direction of his
neighbor during an altercation, and fashioned a crude weapon in jail using a
razor blade. The similar cases listed in the Appendix support the imposition of
the death penalty in this case, in that all involve the murder of a police officer
in the performance of his official duties.
Judgment affirmed. All the Justices concur."

He's on death row: BRANNAN, ANDREW HOWARD go to the Georgia Department of Corrections to see a photo of him.

Posted: 9/18/2005 4:54:35 AM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
He's on death row: BRANNAN, ANDREW HOWARD go to the Georgia Department of Corrections to see a photo of him.

is there evidence as to his claim of being a "Vietnam combat vet"?

Posted: 9/18/2005 5:41:14 AM EDT

[#23]

Crime was in 1998, he's still getting served three hot meals a day at Jackson Diagnostic prison, in Jackson Georgia.

Posted: 9/18/2005 6:05:52 AM EDT

[#24]

www2.state.ga.us/Courts/Supreme/pdf/s01p1789.pdf

1. The evidence presented at trial showed the following: Andrew Brannan left his
mother’s house in Stockbridge, Georgia, to drive to his house in Laurens County in
the afternoon of January 12, 1998.

He was driving his white pickup truck 98 miles
per hour on Interstate 16 when Laurens County Deputy Sheriff Kyle Dinkheller
clocked his speed with a radar gun. Brannan exited the highway and stopped on a
rural stretch of Whipple Crossing Road after the deputy caught up to him. During
the pursuit, Deputy Dinkheller activated a video camera which is aimed through
his windshield. The camera captured almost all of Brannan’s actions during the
ensuing traffic stop. Deputy Dinkheller also wore a microphone.

The deputy
stopped his patrol car about 20 feet behind Brannan’s truck. Brannan exited his
truck and stood near the driver’s side door with his hands in his pockets. The right
side of Deputy Dinkheller is visible on the tape as he stood next to his driver’s side
door. Deputy Dinkheller said, “Driver, step back here to me. Come on back here to
me.” Brannan said, “Okay,” but did not move. The deputy said, “Come on back.
How are you doing today?” Brannan said that he was okay and asked how the
deputy was doing, but still did not move. Deputy Dinkheller said he was good and
repeated, “[C]ome on back here and keep your hands out of your pockets.”

Brannan asked why and the deputy again said, “Keep your hands out of your
pockets, sir.” Brannan responded, “Fuck you, Godamit, here I am. Shoot my
fucking ass.” He then began dancing in the street, saying, “Here I am, here I am.”
The deputy ordered, “Come here. Sir, come here,” but Brannan responded, “Shoot
me,” and kept dancing. Deputy Dinkheller radioed for assistance on his beltmounted
radio, and the defendant stopped dancing and approached him. The
deputy said, “Sir, get back.” Brannan replied, “Who are you calling,
motherfucker?” and then rushed the deputy and a confrontation ensued to the left
of the patrol car and off camera.

The deputy ordered Brannan to get back nine
more times. Brannan replied with “Fuck you” four times and at one point shouted,
“I am a goddam Vietnam combat veteran.” Brannan then ran back to his truck and
began rummaging around behind the driver’s seat. Deputy Dinkheller remained
beside his patrol car and ordered, “Sir, get out of the car.” The right side of the
deputy is briefly visible during this time. The deputy had drawn his baton, but not
his firearm.

Brannan replied that he was in fear of his life. The deputy shouted,
“I’m in fear of my life! Get back here now!” Brannan said, “No,” and then pulled a
.30 caliber M-1 carbine from his truck. The deputy radioed for help and shouted
for him to put the gun down. Instead, Brannan crouched by his open driver’s side
door. The deputy shouted for Brannan to put the gun down three more times.
Brannan opened fire and the deputy returned fire.

Deputy Dinkheller was hit and
shouted, “Shoot, shoot, stop now!” Brannan continued firing and advanced to the
front of the patrol car. The deputy apparently tried to take cover behind the patrol
car. Brannan exhausted one magazine, reloaded, and continued firing. The
microphone recorded the sounds of the deputy being shot. At trial, the medical
examiner testified that by this time Deputy Dinkheller had been struck by at least
nine bullets, in the arms, legs, buttocks, chest, and head.

The medical examiner
opined that the deputy, although still breathing into the microphone, had lost
consciousness because he was no longer returning fire or crying out when shot.
The video shows Brannan cease crouching, take careful aim with his carbine, say
“Die, Fucker,” and fire one last shot. Brannan then fled the scene in his truck.

Posted: 9/18/2005 4:23:52 PM EDT

[#25]

Wow, that was about the worst thing I have ever seen. The deputy should have shot that bastard a lot sooner. I hope the first needle in that fuckers arm is 5 ozs of Draino.

Other than being a complete idiot, did that guy ever offer an excuse for what he did?

Posted: 9/18/2005 8:16:28 PM EDT

[#26]

here is this scums info from the department of corrections.

www.dcor.state.ga.us/GDC/OffenderQuery/jsp/OffQryRedirector.jsp

Posted: 9/18/2005 9:15:31 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Damn.....Should have dropped him at the first sign of a weapon, jackass was already combative.

Yup, How many times does a cop have to yell put the gun down before he can shoot? I'm pretty sure it's way less than the many times he did yell it.

Shortly before the event, the higher ups instructed the officers they had better be very "cautious" about using deadly force because of recent incident in which a excessive force might have been used.

Because of this and the resulting execution of Kyle Dinkheller, several Deputies turned in their badges.

BTW - he was supposedly the top shooter in his Department. When the SHTF, your performance will drop.

Posted: 9/19/2005 6:55:11 AM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
www.dcor.state.ga.us/GDC/OffenderQuery/jsp/OffQryRedirector.jsp

looks like they block direct links, I'm too lazy to hax around it

Go here

and enter GDC in the "Select Identifier" window and 0001041320 in the "Enter Number" window.

Posted: 9/19/2005 6:56:39 AM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
Quoted:
www.dcor.state.ga.us/GDC/OffenderQuery/jsp/OffQryRedirector.jsp

looks like they block direct links, I'm too lazy to hax around it

Go here

and enter GDC in the "Select Identifier" window and 0001041320 in the "Enter Number" window.

Wouldn't ya just know it. Thanks.