The tank my dad fought in during WWII, a Russian T-60

I'm gonna have to post all of my tank pics when I get back on campus and can access my comp, I got some nice ones.

Even have some poor images of tanks with digital woodland camo rolling through city streets.

A couple friends have agreed to help pay for a T-72 tank I want to purchase ($30,000, plus shipping and insurance). They're not enthuisiastic about the small additions I want to make to the exterior though.

I thought painting "Das Boomski" on the side barrel of the main gun and putting a "From my cold, dead hands..." bumper sticker on the rear would be awesome.

Quoted: The tank my dad fought in during WWII, a Russian T-60 homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/t60_34.jpg

That s really cool, he must have told you some good storys.  

Quoted: I'm gonna have to post all of my tank pics when I get back on campus and can access my comp, I got some nice ones. Even have some poor images of tanks with digital woodland camo rolling through city streets. A couple friends have agreed to help pay for a T-72 tank I want to purchase ($30,000, plus shipping and insurance). They're not enthuisiastic about the small additions I want to make to the exterior though. I thought painting "Das Boomski" on the side barrel of the main gun and putting a "From my cold, dead hands..." bumper sticker on the rear would be awesome.

Should be a blast when you get your hands on that thing.........Dont forget the Ar15.com bumper stickers.....

these are some pics i took

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more here..
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Quoted: I think it was a big upgrade from the T-72 though, especially in its fire control system and armour.

As I recall, the T80 was actually an update of the T64.  The T72 was an update of the T62.

The Soviets preferred the T64 to the T72, given a choice.  That has a lot to do with why you still saw T64s in service in the Western Group of Forces at the fall of the wall, while the Soviets were exporting the T72 to everyone and his brother.

Quoted: LeClerc

I hear there's an ejection system for all the guns, including the main gun.  Throws them all up to 100 feet away from the vehicle at the push of a button.  I think it's labeled "Press at First Sign of Trouble"

Quoted:

Boss Hogg never fu**ed with the Duke boys after they got their fancy used Leopard 1A4.

Here's a T-60 picture for you...

America, Britain and Russia all decided it would be a good idea to equip their paratroops with tanks. The Americans came up with the Locust, the British the Tetrarch, both of which would fit in a Hamilcar glider. Only Tetrarch saw action, however.

The Russians, on the other hand, had a different thought. "Why waste effort and materials building a glider to carry the tank, when you can just turn the tank into a glider?" So they came up with this one, simply strapping wings and controls to the T-60, and towing it behind a tug.



While we're on light tanks, here's what has to be the best recon vehicle ever made. Scorpion CVR(T) and family.

Instead of mucking around with these new programmes, they should just re-open the production line and add modern electronics and a mast. Ah, a Jaguar engine...


NTM

Quoted:

This is why you should never bump-fire your M1A2 underwater.

How about some tank silencer pictures?

Quoted: Here's a T-60 picture for you... America, Britain and Russia all decided it would be a good idea to equip their paratroops with tanks. The Americans came up with the Locust, the British the Tetrarch, both of which would fit in a Hamilcar glider. Only Tetrarch saw action, however. The Russians, on the other hand, had a different thought. "Why waste effort and materials building a glider to carry the tank, when you can just turn the tank into a glider?" So they came up with this one, simply strapping wings and controls to the T-60, and towing it behind a tug. www.unrealaircraft.com/roadable/images/antonovkt.jpeg While we're on light tanks, here's what has to be the best recon vehicle ever made. Scorpion CVR(T) and family. Instead of mucking around with these new programmes, they should just re-open the production line and add modern electronics and a mast. Ah, a Jaguar engine... irish.typepad.com/photos/events/scorpiontank.jpg NTM

The Scorpion is awesome.

Quoted: Quoted: img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/scott1959/boresight3.jpg This is why you should never bump-fire your M1A2 underwater.

You owe me a new keyboard and a new Dr. Pepper.

Quoted: Quoted: The tank my dad fought in during WWII, a Russian T-60 homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/t60_34.jpg That s really cool, he must have told you some good storys.

Definately!

Quoted: How about some tank silencer pictures?

How about a howitzer silencer...

Stormer UK

M4 Sherman with Hyper Velocity 60mm anti tank cannon, in South American service.

This gun can kill T55, T62, class tanks.

Quoted: Quoted: M4 Sherman with Hyper Velocity 60mm anti tank cannon, in South American service. This gun can kill T55, T62, class tanks. img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/scott1959/rch-m50.jpg Looks like Peru?

Its in Chile.
M60 Sherman, 60mm



M50 Super Sherman

M60A1 Rise.

For the weekend crew.  

The 60mm modernised Sherman is a new one to me.  Thanks.

Lot's of Sheridan pics, I challenge somebody to post a VISMOD Sheridan from 11ACR, one of the ones that is made up to look like a T-72.  The CHALLENGE is out, let's see the pics!!!

I'm quite fond of the m8, I rather hope it does get jump started by the airborne acquisition.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/scott1959/Challenger2b.jpg Damn thats alot of extra armor I don't know if it's still true, but I think the Challenger used to have the biggest main gun of any NATO tank. Its a 122mm rifled gun, and is very powerfull.

120 mm gun.

Quoted: The 60mm modernised Sherman is a new one to me.  Thanks. Lot's of Sheridan pics, I challenge somebody to post a VISMOD Sheridan from 11ACR, one of the ones that is made up to look like a T-72.  The CHALLENGE is out, let's see the pics!!!

Quoted: The 60mm modernised Sherman is a new one to me.  Thanks. Lot's of Sheridan pics, I challenge somebody to post a VISMOD Sheridan from 11ACR, one of the ones that is made up to look like a T-72.  The CHALLENGE is out, let's see the pics!!!

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/scott1959/Challenger2b.jpg Damn thats alot of extra armor I don't know if it's still true, but I think the Challenger used to have the biggest main gun of any NATO tank. Its a 122mm rifled gun, and is very powerfull. 120 mm gun.

Yup, Someone already set me straight on that.  

Quoted: Those T-80s look like something out of a military book from the early 1970s.

T-80's, in fact non-export T-72's, look old, but have a lot of new gear on them. Laser range finders, gun stabilization, anti-missile systems.

Merkava Mk IV appx weight 140,000 lbs. Has room for a infantry squad in tha back. Has A/C and a water cooler. Has the ability to engage helicopters with it's main gun. 120 mm gun, (most likely a 120/44 gun), 3 7.62 MGs, on 60 self defense mortar. 80+ main gun rounds can be on board.

Leclerc MBT 112,000 lbs, GIAT 120/26 smoothbore main gun. 12.7 mm coaxial gun, 1 7.62 AA gun.

Leopard 2 121,000 lbs Rheinmetal 120/44 smoothbore main gun. 1 7.62 coaxial gun, 1 7.62 AA gun

Leopard 2A6 132,000 lbs Rheimmetal 120/55 smoothbore main gun.  2 7.62 guns

Arjun MBT (India) 129,000 lbs 120 mm rifled gun (British design), 1 12.7 mm AA gun, 1 7.62 coaxial gun.

Mitsubishi Type 90 110,000 lbs, Rheinmetal 120/44 gun, 12.7 AA gun, 7.62 coaxial. Has  hydropneumatic adjustable road wheels, at front and rear.

Hyunadai K1, yes Hyundai makes a tank, looks like a squished down M1 Abrams, very low profile turret. 112,500 lbs. Versions armed with 105mm rifle M68A1, or 120/44 Rheinmetal guns. Koreas has large stores of 105mm rounds, and other tanks that still use it. They feel 105mm guns are good enough due to the terrain, and the vehicle N. Korea is armed with. 1 7.62 coaxial gun, 1 7.62 AA gun, and 1 12.7 AA gun.

Challenger II 137,500 lbs. 120 mm rifled gun, 1 7.62 coaxial gun, 1 remote controlled external 7.62 MG.

Khalid MBT, Made by Vickers Defence, who made the Challenger I/II's. 127,500 lbs 120 smoothbore gun, 1 7.62 coaxial, 1 remote controlled 12.7 mm MG.

M1 Abrams, 128,000 lbs, 120/44 Rheinmetal gun, 1 7.62 coaxial, 1 7.62 AA gun, 1 12.7 AA gun. (carries 40 main gun rounds compare to Merkava)

T72 90,000 lbs 125mm gun, 39 rounds, some versions may also fire the AT-11 missile which has a 5,000 yard range. 12.7 mm AA gun, and 7.62 coaxial gun.

T80 95,000 lbs, orginally built with a gas-turbine, some refitted to diesel, later versions built with diesel. Possible "laminted" armor in critical areas. 125mm gun, capabale of launching the AT-8. 7.62 coaxial gun, 12.7mm remote control gun. Several ERA "packages" available to defeat explosive warheads.

T90 103,000 lbs, compsite armor, with a diesel engine. 125 mm gun capable of firing an AT-11, which has a dual warhead to defeat ERA. Also can fire rounds that will explode when passing over the top of AFV's, to defeat the top armor. Has "anti-missile" 81mm grenades to defeat incoming laser guided/IR weapons.  1 7.62 coaxial gun, 1 remote controlled 12.7mm gun.

Blacke Eagle 117,000 lbs, composite armor, and ERA armor. 125 mm gun, and 1 7.62 gun. Reportedly designed to have a 152mm smoothbore gun installed whne the gun is ready for use.

I think the most interesting are the Merkava and the Leopard 2A5/2A6. Both have bolt on pieces of armor designed to defeat explosive warheads that can supposedly be replaced in the field.

The Leopard 2 with a 120/55 gun has got to have incredible firepower, due to the extra velocity from the longer gun.

The Merkava with it's large main gun magazine, and built in crew protection has got to be something in combat. The engine is at the front. So the armor, and the engine have to be defeated, before the crew is injured. I have seen earlire Merkavas fitteed with multiple remote control MG's and cameras for anti-personnel missions. MG's on the glacis, and turret can apparently be "ganged" to hit the same place, at the same time...................

M1 or Leopard2 are the best in the world IMO.

Quoted: Quoted: Those T-80s look like something out of a military book from the early 1970s. T-80's, in fact non-export T-72's, look old, but have a lot of new gear on them. Laser range finders, gun stabilization, anti-missile systems.

My turn to correct you.........T-80s are in fact developed from the T-64, not the T-72, which is an altogather different tank.

The T-90 is in fact the T-72 upgrade.  

tag

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Those T-80s look like something out of a military book from the early 1970s. T-80's, in fact non-export T-72's, look old, but have a lot of new gear on them. Laser range finders, gun stabilization, anti-missile systems. My turn to correct you.........T-80s are in fact developed from the T-64, not the T-72, which is an altogather different tank. The T-90 is in fact the T-72 upgrade.

Let me just say ????????????

I didn't make any comments pertaining to each tanks "lineage".

I was pointing out that T-72's, that the crazy guy in the Middle East was using against US forces, were not the same as the tanks the Russians have, even if the model numbers are the same.

Team crazy guy did'nt have gun stabilization, or sophisitcated ranging equipment. Nor did he have access to the gun fired guided AT missiles the Russians have.

Not that T-whatever was an upgrade of an earlier T. The Russian tanks of whatever "T" do have a common Russian tank look.

Quoted: The 60mm modernised Sherman is a new one to me.  Thanks. Lot's of Sheridan pics, I challenge somebody to post a VISMOD Sheridan from 11ACR, one of the ones that is made up to look like a T-72.  The CHALLENGE is out, let's see the pics!!!

I believe the 60mm gun, 90mm, and 105mm version Shermans were orginally re-built by Israel. They also made SP guns, rescue vehicles, APC's out of old Shermans, to name a few.

From www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/sherman.htm

During the early '50s, more M-4 were purchased from various sources, and the Sherman became the standard tank in the Israeli armored units. In collaboration with France, the tanks were regunned with the M50 75mm gun ("Sherman M50") and, later, with a 105mm gun ("Sherman M51"). Some "Super Sherman" tanks, armed with a 76.2mm gun were also purchased.

No other vehicle in IDF use was modified and had so many variants based upon as the Sherman. Besides it's use as a tank, there were engineer variants, mine plowers, rescue vehicles, gun practice moving targets, self propelled guns, mortars and MLRs, ambulance and many more. The M-50/155 Howizter is another conversion of the M-4 Sherman. The M-50 is an Israeli indeginious self propelled gun - a French 155mm howitzer was fitted on a Sherman chassis

Another link

www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/tanks/sherman/Sherman.html

Those VISMOD OPFOR Sheridans that you guys have posted are alright, but not really up to snuff.  Has anybody seen the VISMOD/T-72 Sheridan sitting at the entrance to Fort Irwin?  That's the model of  tank I want to see a pic of.

CV90 IFV built by Sweden







CV90120 light tank with 120mm gun (shoots same round as Abrams)



CV90 with twin 120mm mortar turret

Quoted: Let me just say ???????????? I didn't make any comments pertaining to each tanks "lineage". I was pointing out that T-72's, that the crazy guy in the Middle East was using against US forces, were not the same as the tanks the Russians have, even if the model numbers are the same. Team crazy guy did'nt have gun stabilization, or sophisitcated ranging equipment. Nor did he have access to the gun fired guided AT missiles the Russians have. Not that T-whatever was an upgrade of an earlier T. The Russian tanks of whatever "T" do have a common Russian tank look.

T-80's, in fact non-export T-72's,

Ok, I missunderstood the wording of your statement, yes they all do look alike.  

BMD

Heavy Convoy Escort Vehicals.

Quoted: LeClerc tinypic.com/28knls

Not to be confused with....

   LeBeau



AWESOME thread! Thanks very much.

M48 Upgrade



T-55 Upgrade

The guys getting airborne over berms and such...the motor sergeant's gotta be cringing every time he sees that. I did it by accident in an M109A2 at NTC, and while it probably looked cool as hell, all that weight up front (the tube) busted the front 4 torsion bars on each side, plus all of the engine mounts.

Ok, what are those things sticking out on the turret on either side of the main gun?

Quoted: Ok, what are those things sticking out on the turret on either side of the main gun? img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/scott1959/Challenger2a.jpg

Smoke grenade launchers, if they see a incoming guided antitank missle, they fire those, and take evasive action, if possible.

I am not immediately aware of any 90mm conversions of the Sherman. Israel did 75mm (M50) and 105mm (M51)

NTM

Quoted: I am not immediately aware of any 90mm conversions of the Sherman. Israel did 75mm (M50) and 105mm (M51) NTM

I was going off the top of my head, and was researching. Israel had the 60mm, 75mm, and 105mm Shermans.

There was also this: The M36B1 was constructed by mating the 90mm M36 gun turret with the hull of the late-production M4A3 Sherman. Internal stowage was rearranged to accomodate the larger 90mm rounds.

Which might have been what I was thinking of when I posted 90mm Sherman.

OORRRAAAAA!

Quoted: www.defenselink.mil/photos/Dec2004/041210-M-8205V-027.jpg

To get a sense of Lumpy's bigger picture....



Thanks for the GREAT pic Lump!