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Posted: 11/27/2006 9:21:38 PM EDT
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I have a few cans already , I guess if I had to get another one it would be for my M1A
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Minuteman III
I'll bet the MRVs make little to no noise before the boom--which you'll never hear because you'd be too busy getting broiled / microwaved to oblivion. |
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My registered deadly weopons of mass distruction, HANDS of death.
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Not a real HK and not a real aimpoint |
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Yup, but I'd like a semi-burst-auto trigger group, we are dreaming, right? Either that or an MP5 in .45 (don't know that they ever made them, more's the pity). |
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You are actually better off with a standard MP5A2 and an add on can like the Striker II. While the integrally suppressed MP5SD is incredibly quiet it comes at a cost. It is designed for standard (supersonic) 9mm ammo. It has a ported barrel which reduces the velocity of the round to subsonic levels. You CANNOT sho subsonic 9mm in a SD model. The result of the porting of a standard 9mm round is that you end up with the terminal ballistics of something like a hot .380 round. With a standard MP5 w/ add on can you can simply use subsonic 9mm (147 gr.) This gives you far better terminal ballistics and while the suppression isn't nearly as complete as a MP5SD model, it is still impressive. That said, it would still be neat to finally add a SD model to my collection one day. |
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HK actually did make a prototype MP545 along the same design lines as the MP540 and MP510 with a last shot bolt hold open. Rather than take the MP545 into production, which had the potential to be wildly successful, they instead chose to produce their new plastic wonder gun the HK UMP. Their intent was to phase out the MP5 and other roller lock guns (G3, 33, 53, PSG1). They even offered the UMP9 in hopes that it would replace the standard MP5. I honestly don't know what they were thinking. The UMP is a fine gun and all, but it ain't no MP5. If they went into production with the MP545 they'd probably still be trying to fill orders. |
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DeLisle Carbine...pretty cool. I've always liked the MP5SD series, but an MP5/10 with an attached can would hit a hell of a lot harder than the sub-sonic 9mm. |
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+ 1 Edited to revise opinion in line with SteyrAug's comments, however, SD is still sweet. |
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+1-with no action moving back and forth until you chamber the next round and .45 being subsonic, I'd like to know the dB figures for a De Lisle. |
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Plus it's a real pain in the ass to clean the SD. The gunk gets built up around the threads and in front of the inside of the can making it almost impossible to take off if you don't "stay on top" of the cleaning. Other than that, they are really fun. I agree.
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ruger .22 pistol integrelly suppressed. dont underestimate the power of silenced .22lr
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Why? The beauty of 10mm is the velocity. If you use subsonic ammo, it's pointless. |
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I think Froid would like to have a word with you. Me personally... AR15, 18" Carbon Composite Barrel, Beta-C-mag, a high end suppressor and I will have my ultimate Suppressor rifle |
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Take the Medusa Model 47 revolver, which can chamber .38 Special, .357 Magnum, 9x19mm, .380, 9mm Largo, etc. all in the same cylinder. Now give it the special cylinder that slides forward so there's no gap between it and the barrel when the hammer is cocked, just like the Nagant M1895 revolver. Now give it an integral suppressor. A 9mm suppressor would work since every single one of those calibers uses a .355" bullet. Obviously certain calibers and loads would more quiet than others, but think about it: a suppressed handgun with no ejection (less noise and no brass left behind), you can mix and match calibers and ammunition for whatever purpose you have in mind (sub-sonic 9mm for covert ops, or simply not having to wear ear protection when you go blast some .357 at the range), and it's darn quiet.
You can even sell a version without the suppressor. The Nagant's gas seal gave it an extra 200fps bullet velocity (which its anemic caliber badly needed). Imagine what that could do to a .357 Magnum! |
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This is what I was thinking when I started the thread (handgun wise) Super quiet, easy to handle, and I'd put some "beams" on it to cover the night time CQ sniping situations. |
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Looks like something out of a 'home workshop' book published in the 80's. |
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You can shoot 200 grain subsonic ammo out of it when you want to be quiet, and shoot supersonic when you want the power. I'm thinking BIG here. |
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Subsonic 10mm would be no better than .40S&W. Though you don't have to use subsonic ammo, but it makes a big difference. |
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Tom Denall can build you a integrall ruger 77/44, if you find the rifle. they stopped production this or last year. I have one, and when you shoot 44 subsonic, there is a thoom sound with the firing pin dropping and then you hear your 300 grain bullet hitting whatever you just shot. pretty cool. |
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