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Posted: 5/9/2024 5:21:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Joshuasaur]
Hello GD, it's me again.
My body is ready for the lashings  Here is a link to our latest video  New Contender for Hunting & PRS | Vortex Viper HD 5-25X50 I definitely think right off the batt that we need to find a better way to stabilize the scope cam footage when at full magnification so we aren't killing people with motion sickness. I don't know how much shorter we can make the gun porn intro/ads, but we tried hard to get WAY more B roll and WAY less of our ugly mugs on screen. What did we miss? What would you like to see done better/differently? |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 5:34:09 PM EDT
[#1]
Shameless bump
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Posted: 5/9/2024 5:39:10 PM EDT
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Didn’t watch the whole video but I made it past the first 45 seconds which is a marked improvement over previous videos. I have been pretty harsh on some of the videos so I feel like I owe you a thumbs up when they don’t suck. Nothing really stood out to me as a negative.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 6:00:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cobra-Commander: Didn’t watch the whole video but I made it past the first 45 seconds which is a marked improvement over previous videos. I have been pretty harsh on some of the videos so I feel like I owe you a thumbs up when they don’t suck. Nothing really stood out to me as a negative. A marginal win is a win for me! If we such let us know, we aren't allowed to be butt hurt if you guys don't like it. I appreciate you taking the time to give feedback! |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 6:00:49 PM EDT
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The guy in that thumbnail is handsome
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Posted: 5/9/2024 6:06:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stylz: The guy in that thumbnail is handsome You would.... lol |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:19:59 PM EDT
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another selfish bump
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:30:56 PM EDT
[#7]
I have more questions about Vortex than the video this go round. This seems rather repetitive when they have the Strike Eagle 5-25 and the 5-25x Viper PST gen 2. This one uses the same zero stop as the Strike Eagle which is much easier to use than the Viper PST but it's a 30mm tube so it ends up with less adjustment internally than the much cheaper Strike Eagle.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:36:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11boomboom]
[#8]
Originally Posted By Joshuasaur: Hello GD, it's me again. My body is ready for the lashings Here is a link to our latest video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5jeotQ2cbUI definitely think right off the batt that we need to find a better way to stabilize the scope cam footage when at full magnification so we aren't killing people with motion sickness. I don't know how much shorter we can make the gun porn intro/ads, but we tried hard to get WAY more B roll and WAY less of our ugly mugs on screen. What did we miss? What would you like to see done better/differently? Definitely a better video than the last one. Looks like you guys are finding your groove. The only thing I had issue with was the transition from the intro to the logo. It seemed a little jarring, maybe because of the music switch. You could try the same thing, but instead of two pieces of music, use the same piece for both and fade the music out in the logo portion to the discussion portion. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:45:41 PM EDT
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Dunno why everyone is so out for ya guys. There are far worst youtubers out there. Try watching Tundra Tactical and see if you can make it through 15 sec.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 9:00:47 PM EDT
[#10]
Review seems decent, just not something I’m interested in. Will be checking out some past reviews now.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 9:13:16 PM EDT
[#11]
That's pretty decent.
I've never had a 5-25, and if I was looking to venture into that world I would consider the video to be informative. Those guys were much less annoying than the average tube reviewers/commentors. I won't watch 1 second of that 5 pins cat, but I watched this one all the way thru. Helpful to somebody like me, who's not versed in that type of optic. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 9:53:26 PM EDT
[#12]
Better then the last video. I watched all of this one. Maybe I missed it but did you mention the MSRP.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:19:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ruffhowzer: Better then the last video. I watched all of this one. Maybe I missed it but did you mention the MSRP. I don't recall as I wasn't in the talking head portion and only shooting, but we may have skipped it. We have a theory that getting into price is partly responsible for a string of demontized videos weve had recently. Demonitized videos don't tend to perform and get way less impressions.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:20:37 PM EDT
[#14]
I liked it. No complaints here.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:22:19 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob940: Dunno why everyone is so out for ya guys. There are far worst youtubers out there. Try watching Tundra Tactical and see if you can make it through 15 sec. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:29:24 PM EDT
[#16]
Not bad. I watched 8min of it. I had to do something so I couldn’t finish it.
I would run the logo intro first…then add some clips…then jump into the video. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:33:53 PM EDT
[#17]
Much better video than your first try. A short lead in to what you are going to do a review on piques my interest much better.
Keep it up. Will watch these videos. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 11:38:18 PM EDT
[#18]
Wasn't bad, I watched it all the way through as I've been looking to replace my Diamondback Tactical FFP 6-24x50 with something close to the same but illuminated.
My opinion: I think you covered the features quite well, had it mounted on a nice rig. Just remind whoever is showing the turret operation to not move the object of attention out of focus or frame. Also.. I get it you have to pay the bills and plug the sponsors, but 15 secs into the plug for the sponsors I fast forward through the remaining 20 secs. Not that I have ADHD or anything, it's just that you kinda already started showcasing the scope and I was ready to receive SCOPE info, not a fricking commercial Talk about cockblocking... Overall, yeah you guys are getting better at it. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:06:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tspike: Wasn't bad, I watched it all the way through as I've been looking to replace my Diamondback Tactical FFP 6-24x50 with something close to the same but illuminated. My opinion: I think you covered the features quite well, had it mounted on a nice rig. Just remind whoever is showing the turret operation to not move the object of attention out of focus or frame. Also.. I get it you have to pay the bills and plug the sponsors, but 15 secs into the plug for the sponsors I fast forward through the remaining 20 secs. Not that I have ADHD or anything, it's just that you kinda already started showcasing the scope and I was ready to receive SCOPE info, not a fricking commercial Talk about cockblocking... Overall, yeah you guys are getting better at it. Most advertisers typically want ads to run in the first 90 seconds. We never run more than 3 sponsors and try to keep ad reads to 15 seconds each. I'm sure we'll always have a portion of the audience that skips some of that, but we try to keep it limited. We get a lot of advertising offers from some of the brands you see on YouTube, like VPN services and identity coverage, but they want us to run 60-90 ads. We decline. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:20:16 PM EDT
[#20]
Well done. Nice review and cool setting. You're way ahead of a lot of other tubers out there.
Looking for feedback is good but don't crowd source the production, it will lose the character you and your guys bring to it. And you probably already know but GD is full of haters that would bitch about free gold bars and blowjobs, so... |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:27:33 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stylz: Most advertisers typically want ads to run in the first 90 seconds. We never run more than 3 sponsors and try to keep ad reads to 15 seconds each. I'm sure we'll always have a portion of the audience that skips some of that, but we try to keep it limited. We get a lot of advertising offers from some of the brands you see on YouTube, like VPN services and identity coverage, but they want us to run 60-90 ads. We decline. GD already hates your videos, so why not make the extra money? |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:29:43 PM EDT
[#22]
I liked it.
No blaring heavy metal music, no huge volume fluctuations, no dick jokes. Solid content, good job. Needs boobies.  |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:37:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PeepEater: I have more questions about Vortex than the video this go round. This seems rather repetitive when they have the Strike Eagle 5-25 and the 5-25x Viper PST gen 2. This one uses the same zero stop as the Strike Eagle which is much easier to use than the Viper PST but it's a 30mm tube so it ends up with less adjustment internally than the much cheaper Strike Eagle. We can't talk about price on YT unfortunately, but even the most feature rich version of this will be sub $1k. I'm guessing it's either meant to be their cheaper line of scopes or they are changing up their naming convention. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:38:48 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Definitely a better video than the last one. Looks like you guys are finding your groove. The only thing I had issue with was the transition from the intro to the logo. It seemed a little jarring, maybe because of the music switch. You could try the same thing, but instead of two pieces of music, use the same piece for both and fade the music out in the logo portion to the discussion portion. Now that I re-watched it after reading this I think you're right, that is a jarring transition. I'll add this to my editors notes! |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:42:20 PM EDT
[#25]
Much better.
It's interesting to see Vortex adopted Nightforce's button illumination control of the ATACR and NX8. One of your crew needs more dry fire time behind that Way point. Bolt manipulation was lacking. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:49:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joshuasaur: Now that I re-watched it after reading this I think you're right, that is a jarring transition. I'll add this to my editors notes! 
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:50:04 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob940: Dunno why everyone is so out for ya guys. There are far worst youtubers out there. Try watching Tundra Tactical and see if you can make it through 15 sec. HAHAHAHAHA I appreciate the support
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:50:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Review seems decent, just not something I’m interested in. Will be checking out some past reviews now. This is high praise here, I appreciate you taking the time to look and provide feedback! |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:54:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JTMcC: That's pretty decent. I've never had a 5-25, and if I was looking to venture into that world I would consider the video to be informative. Those guys were much less annoying than the average tube reviewers/commentors. I won't watch 1 second of that 5 pins cat, but I watched this one all the way thru. Helpful to somebody like me, who's not versed in that type of optic. I'll take it! I appreciate you taking to time to engage with both this thread and the video itself. It may never appeal fully to everyone, but as long as it's not cringe I can live with that
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:54:56 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ManiacRat: I liked it. No complaints here. Thank you for the positive feedback! Is there anything in particular you would like for us to cover on the show? |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:55:20 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob940: Dunno why everyone is so out for ya guys. There are far worst youtubers out there. Try watching Tundra Tactical and see if you can make it through 15 sec. This. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:57:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ak4784: Not bad. I watched 8min of it. I had to do something so I couldn’t finish it. I would run the logo intro first…then add some clips…then jump into the video. We are definitely looking at changing up the intro, it plays a huge part in viewership retention and watch time. I will add this to our "change up the intro" tally Thank you for taking the time to provide feedback! |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:58:58 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50cal: Much better video than your first try. A short lead in to what you are going to do a review on piques my interest much better. Keep it up. Will watch these videos. WOO HOO! Thank you for having seen more than one and be able to provide us with feedback on it!
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:59:05 PM EDT
[#34]
You're right, the scope cam portions are a bit nauseating, but I think its better to have them in the video as-is than not at all. A lot of what this scope has to offer is the reticle so I want to see it. Maybe clamp the rifle down in a vice the show the zoom features? It's not bad when someone is shooting, only when they are adjusting magnification.
Overall, I enjoyed the video |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:00:10 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stylz: Most advertisers typically want ads to run in the first 90 seconds. We never run more than 3 sponsors and try to keep ad reads to 15 seconds each. I'm sure we'll always have a portion of the audience that skips some of that, but we try to keep it limited. We get a lot of advertising offers from some of the brands you see on YouTube, like VPN services and identity coverage, but they want us to run 60-90 ads. We decline. I have YouTube running through my headset hours at a time. I’m constantly having to rewind because I tune out the adds and forget to re engage my brain when the 90 second adds are over. Thank you for considering ADD poster children like me. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:11:16 PM EDT
[#36]
The only thing I can really suggest is use your individual interests and skill sets to your advantage.
If one of your shoots PRS or NRL, let that guy be the voice of precisuin rifle stuff. I mentioned this Vortex copying Nightforce's illumination button in there. Anyone that that does precision rifle stuff picked up on that, and throwing little tidbits in the video goes a long way towards credibility to some viewers. "Oh, this guy knows what he's talking about." Same thing with using the USPSA guy to narrate pistol stuff, and the larger doing battle belt stuff, etc. The triggercam segments were bad. I appreciate showing FFP capabilities for the uninitiated, but the shaking ruined it. Maybe clamp it down in the future. That's just nitpicky stuff, but I thought it was a good video overall. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 2:52:23 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tspike: Wasn't bad, I watched it all the way through as I've been looking to replace my Diamondback Tactical FFP 6-24x50 with something close to the same but illuminated. My opinion: I think you covered the features quite well, had it mounted on a nice rig. Just remind whoever is showing the turret operation to not move the object of attention out of focus or frame. Also.. I get it you have to pay the bills and plug the sponsors, but 15 secs into the plug for the sponsors I fast forward through the remaining 20 secs. Not that I have ADHD or anything, it's just that you kinda already started showcasing the scope and I was ready to receive SCOPE info, not a fricking commercial Talk about cockblocking... Overall, yeah you guys are getting better at it. This is great feedback, I'll see if I can get them to move a bit off of the run time for the ads (I definitely might be yelling at the clouds for that), but I'm thrilled to hear to was at the very minimum informative. We will work on not cockblocking Thank you for taking the time to watch it and provide feedback! |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 3:32:30 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wakeboarder: GD already hates your videos, so why not make the extra money?  |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 3:33:00 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bellows1: I liked it. No blaring heavy metal music, no huge volume fluctuations, no dick jokes. Solid content, good job. Needs boobies. Our next episode will have females, be appeased
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Posted: 5/10/2024 3:39:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: Well done. Nice review and cool setting. You're way ahead of a lot of other tubers out there. Looking for feedback is good but don't crowd source the production, it will lose the character you and your guys bring to it. And you probably already know but GD is full of haters that would bitch about free gold bars and blowjobs, so... It's definitely a work in progress, but we hope to get better every week! |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 4:16:23 PM EDT
[#41]
I think you guys are on a good track.
The videos aren't egregiously long or verbose. The photography and production value are good. More B-roll and less podcast view is good. I think the bigger challenges to grow are substance: What makes you different than the 87 other Guntube channels? Do you address shortfalls and downsides of products, and if so, how do you approach that problem? Too soft, and you're seen as shills, too harsh, and you lose manufacturers. Personality/chemistry? This is entirely subjective, but some guys interact in a way people like, and some don't. And maybe the hardest one to establish, but why should the audience care about your opinions, and how do you tell/show us that without coming off like a bunch of self-absorbed dicks? Well regarded channels like Forgotten Weapons, 9 Hole, and C_DOES all have areas where they excel at this, and they've demonstrated why we should listen to their opinions about X, Y, or Z. And since you have a round-table/podcast format, maybe we need to know who, if anyone, is the long range guy, or the pistol competition guy, or the optics nerd, or the hardcore NFAids guy, or whatever if you guys are into different things. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 4:23:50 PM EDT
[#42]
Yes, it's better now
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Posted: 5/10/2024 4:26:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11boomboom]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: I think you guys are on a good track. The videos aren't egregiously long or verbose. The photography and production value are good. More B-roll and less podcast view is good. I think the bigger challenges to grow are substance: What makes you different than the 87 other Guntube channels? Do you address shortfalls and downsides of products, and if so, how do you approach that problem? Too soft, and you're seen as shills, too harsh, and you lose manufacturers. Personality/chemistry? This is entirely subjective, but some guys interact in a way people like, and some don't. And maybe the hardest one to establish, but why should the audience care about your opinions, and how do you tell/show us that without coming off like a bunch of self-absorbed dicks? Well regarded channels like Forgotten Weapons, 9 Hole, and C_DOES all have areas where they excel at this, and they've demonstrated why we should listen to their opinions about X, Y, or Z. And since you have a round-table/podcast format, maybe we need to know who, if anyone, is the long range guy, or the pistol competition guy, or the optics nerd, or the hardcore NFAids guy, or whatever if you guys are into different things. I think they're falling into the same niche as the Vortex Optics podcast, albeit I think the Arfcom podcast is more entertaining while the Vortex one is more hunting-oriented. They do discuss aiming techniques and concepts. @Joshuasaur , have you watched the Vortex podcast? It's kind of similar to yours, although I think yours is more entertaining. They could be a good source for inspiration in talking points and perhaps the way the podcast discussion is organized. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 2:28:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: I think they're falling into the same niche as the Vortex Optics podcast, albeit I think the Arfcom podcast is more entertaining while the Vortex one is more hunting-oriented. They do discuss aiming techniques and concepts. @Joshuasaur , have you watched the Vortex podcast? It's kind of similar to yours, although I think yours is more entertaining. They could be a good source for inspiration in talking points and perhaps the way the podcast discussion is organized. They have a pretty nice setup (I got to see it at their media summit this past year) so I am pumped if we are anywhere near their production quality given the resources they have available to them! |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 2:29:16 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buckshot_jim: Yes, it's better now Thank you for the feedback! |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 2:33:24 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: I think you guys are on a good track. The videos aren't egregiously long or verbose. The photography and production value are good. More B-roll and less podcast view is good. I think the bigger challenges to grow are substance: What makes you different than the 87 other Guntube channels? Do you address shortfalls and downsides of products, and if so, how do you approach that problem? Too soft, and you're seen as shills, too harsh, and you lose manufacturers. Personality/chemistry? This is entirely subjective, but some guys interact in a way people like, and some don't. And maybe the hardest one to establish, but why should the audience care about your opinions, and how do you tell/show us that without coming off like a bunch of self-absorbed dicks? Well regarded channels like Forgotten Weapons, 9 Hole, and C_DOES all have areas where they excel at this, and they've demonstrated why we should listen to their opinions about X, Y, or Z. And since you have a round-table/podcast format, maybe we need to know who, if anyone, is the long range guy, or the pistol competition guy, or the optics nerd, or the hardcore NFAids guy, or whatever if you guys are into different things. I definitely think we need to make big strides on these two points to get better and be more "relevant" in the 2A content world. You bring up a good point about finding reasonable ways to increase our collective reputation without being shitass dudes. I think training classes, maybe doing some more competitive shooting, or something like that to maybe prove we are actually competent shooters/people worth listen too would go a long way to gain some ground in this department. I really appreciate this feedback and will definitely add this to our to do list! |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 3:07:21 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NvrBrdWes: You're right, the scope cam portions are a bit nauseating Just put in some still frames instead of trying to use video there. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 10:53:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gamma762: Just put in some still frames instead of trying to use video there. I feel special needs for not thinking of that myself lol |
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