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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:49:56 AM EDT
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Leading in championship points isn't so terrible. Plus Italtrans did him no favors - or things like getting pole and then bike can't make it to the grid w/1st season w/American Racing.
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:59:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: Joe has had his chance… I’m grateful to see any rider that’s not just another kid out of the Spanish and Italian puppy mills, but he’s been taking up space for at least two seasons now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: Originally Posted By xylo: I would love for Joe to go to MotoGP. He's the only reason I watch Moto2. I kept waiting for him to disappoint, but he DID IT!! ETA I didn't realize he's 26. He's getting near to aging out of the Moto world. Joe has had his chance… I’m grateful to see any rider that’s not just another kid out of the Spanish and Italian puppy mills, but he’s been taking up space for at least two seasons now. to be fair, those puppy mills are a big part of why we see races like we have the past 2 showings. or if you mean you'd just prefer to see more nationalities represented then I wholehartdely agree. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:35:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bophades: to be fair, those puppy mills are a big part of why we see races like we have the past 2 showings. or if you mean you'd just prefer to see more nationalities represented then I wholehartdely agree. I just want more nationalities. TBH, I’d really like to see more Japanese world champions. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:00:47 AM EDT
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Just watched Jerez.
Can't believe Jorge lost the front end and gave it to Pecco like that. And Marquez was bent on another crash with Pecco. Those two have to hate each other. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:24:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: Just watched Jerez. Can't believe Jorge lost the front end and gave it to Pecco like that. And Marquez was bent on another crash with Pecco. Those two have to hate each other. As long as dorna continues to let 93 ride with no consideration to anyone but himself there's no reason for him to stop. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 1:35:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: _DR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KnuckleSandwich: As long as dorna continues to let 93 ride with no consideration to anyone but himself there's no reason for him to stop. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KnuckleSandwich: Originally Posted By _DR: Just watched Jerez. Can't believe Jorge lost the front end and gave it to Pecco like that. And Marquez was bent on another crash with Pecco. Those two have to hate each other. As long as dorna continues to let 93 ride with no consideration to anyone but himself there's no reason for him to stop. I do see how the gladiatorial entertainment value might benefit marketing. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 1:40:35 PM EDT
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93 is a bully.
Pecco did a good job of bullying back this weekend. Everyone else will probably take note, and off we go... |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 8:48:47 PM EDT
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I know it’s never really right for Marquez to bully his way thru the grid, but I have a LOT less problem seeing him banging bars when jostling for the lead than when he torpedos someone he can’t pass on an uncompetitive bike to get them out of the way.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 8:53:13 PM EDT
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Just ask Mir
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Posted: 5/2/2024 8:37:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anothermisanthrope: Just ask Mir Yep, the move he put on Mir was complete bullshit and the 1 place penalty was typical of how they protect 93 (though I am surprised they gave the penalty at all). Anyone else would have been sanctioned harder. If it was evenly handled by the stewards it would not be so controversial (apart from the impact to safety). |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 9:06:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KnuckleSandwich: Yep, the move he put on Mir was complete bullshit and the 1 place penalty was typical of how they protect 93 (though I am surprised they gave the penalty at all). Anyone else would have been sanctioned harder. If it was evenly handled by the stewards it would not be so controversial (apart from the impact to safety). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KnuckleSandwich: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: Just ask Mir Yep, the move he put on Mir was complete bullshit and the 1 place penalty was typical of how they protect 93 (though I am surprised they gave the penalty at all). Anyone else would have been sanctioned harder. If it was evenly handled by the stewards it would not be so controversial (apart from the impact to safety). Why did they give him a break? |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 10:06:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: Why did they give him a break? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: Originally Posted By KnuckleSandwich: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: Just ask Mir Yep, the move he put on Mir was complete bullshit and the 1 place penalty was typical of how they protect 93 (though I am surprised they gave the penalty at all). Anyone else would have been sanctioned harder. If it was evenly handled by the stewards it would not be so controversial (apart from the impact to safety). Why did they give him a break? Dorna wants him to get that final ship and surpass Vale. |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 10:07:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bophades: Dorna wants him to get that final ship and surpass Vale. Oh ok. But I don't see that happening. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 7:02:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: Why did they give him a break? For the show. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:31:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: For the show. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: Originally Posted By _DR: Why did they give him a break? For the show. Well it certainly is noticeable as a pattern. Are the stewards unique to each country/racetrack, or are they the same for every race? They seem to be the equivalent of a referee or umpire...just wondering if nationality bias plays a role in their judgements, intentional or not. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 8:03:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: Well it certainly is noticeable as a pattern. Are the stewards unique to each country/racetrack, or are they the same for every race? They seem to be the equivalent of a referee or umpire...just wondering if nationality bias plays a role in their judgements, intentional or not. I doubt it. But they know what side of their bread to butter. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 8:15:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Shung]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KnuckleSandwich: Yep, the move he put on Mir was complete bullshit and the 1 place penalty was typical of how they protect 93 (though I am surprised they gave the penalty at all). Anyone else would have been sanctioned harder. If it was evenly handled by the stewards it would not be so controversial (apart from the impact to safety). Remember how dorna penalized simoncelli for nothing compared to what marquez is doing/ fuck the Spaniards at dorna/ I knew everything I needed to know about them after they penalized 46 for dealing with the bully in Malaysia |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 8:32:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: I just want more nationalities. TBH, I’d really like to see more Japanese world champions. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: Originally Posted By Bophades: to be fair, those puppy mills are a big part of why we see races like we have the past 2 showings. or if you mean you'd just prefer to see more nationalities represented then I wholehartdely agree. I just want more nationalities. TBH, I’d really like to see more Japanese world champions. Kato would have been fun to watch over the years |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 6:36:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 6:36:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Castrolr1]
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:12:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: I do see how the gladiatorial entertainment value might benefit marketing. Yes "rubbing is racing"  This keeps people from tuning out during the aero wars. Watching bikes follow each other around the track in a single line doesn't sell tickets. David
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Posted: 5/7/2024 6:28:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI like that they're removing some of the tech and aero, but still don't understand how they're going to avoid the same problems from the 800 era. Sharing GPS will be interesting. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:12:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TheOtherDave]
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Not sure what sharing GPS will do for anyone without the attendant accelerometer data. It won’t tell the engineers anything more than what the riders do when they complain about how a rider is able to use a different line than they do and accelerate harder. If the goal is to get the bike to perform in a different way, seeing where the others have an advantage doesn’t tell you HOW they did it.
Even with accelerometer data I’m not convinced it’s valuable. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:17:22 AM EDT
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I like everything but the fuel change. Go with oil like God intended.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:45:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xylo: I like everything but the fuel change. Go with oil like God intended. All riders and teams fly into airports... pile into busses... drive to track. Ten of thousands of fans drive back and forth to the track all day during the events. But a few liters of renewable fuel is gonna be the game changer... LAME |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:53:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Castrolr1: All riders and teams fly into airports... pile into busses... drive to track. Ten of thousands of fans drive back and forth to the track all day during the events. But a few liters of renewable fuel is gonna be the game changer... LAME  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:38:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: anothermisanthrope]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xylo: I like everything but the fuel change. Go with oil like God intended. I've noticed they never say how many liters of actual fuel it takes to make a liter of renewable fuel. Crafar said on a PG podcast he was offered big $ to do a piece about it and said no thanks - I think he's got integrity. And when you see the small cities they fly all over the world - Castrolr1 just nailed it. Decent take, I just don't get how it won't turn into a parade again. Engine configuration? Or is this a grab at the Japanese and BMW... we'll see. https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/what-motogps-2027-rules-overhaul-could-mean-for-the-series/10607804/ Looking forward to the weekend! |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:17:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: _DR]
[#28]
"Efficient" and "Sustainable" have no business on a racetrack.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 1:56:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: "Efficient" and "Sustainable" have no business on a racetrack. AAAAAAAAMEN!!!!!! |
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