User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
GA, USA
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 6:53:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TriggerM]
Can't remember the last suicide we had locally. Now 2. Don't know either of them, but both of them were around 27.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 6:55:11 PM EDT
[#1]
Man that really sucks. There is a theory on suicide contagion but who knows. I hope not.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 9:34:27 PM EDT
[#2]
Sad statement on us, particularly when they are young. Fucking dark place in life.
|
|
|
|
USA
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 9:46:58 PM EDT
[#3]
Largest group tends to be white males 45-60 years old.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 9:48:03 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mike_Golf: Largest group tends to be white males 45-60 years old. Interesting. |
|
|
|
NC, USA
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 9:52:36 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mike_Golf: Largest group tends to be white males 45-60 years old. I can see why. I'm in that group and I've had to face some hard realities lately. Some days are a real struggle. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 9:53:30 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hooligan223: I can see why. I'm in that group and I've had to face some hard realities lately. Some days are a real struggle. Would you care to elaborate? I'm in that group. What do I need to look out for? |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 9:56:32 PM EDT
[#7]
"If you don't make by the time you're 45 you won't make it".
|
|
|
|
AL, USA
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 9:57:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GDaawg]
[#8]
Had a friend years ago claimed he had a micropenis. Was always angry about everything and at everyone it seemed. Lost touch with him over the years but found out about 20 some odd years later he killed himself. My mind went straight to micropenis being the cause.
My not so helpful suicide story for the week. |
|
|
CHN
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 9:57:49 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mike_Golf: Largest group tends to be white males 45-60 years old. We seem to have those somewhat regularly around here. The young guys on the other hand make much more of an impact on the community. |
|
|
GA, USA
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 10:16:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: digitalebola]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dyezak: Would you care to elaborate? I'm in that group. What do I need to look out for? In my situation it has gotten bleak (im okay and getting through). 54 separated from wife two years ago. Moved to another state. Still paying for the house which she lives in. See my son once a month. Living in a 70 year old house (grandads old place) in the past 3 months I have had to rewire the place, tear out a wall to fix a plumbing leak. A week later the water heater went. Job sucks… maxed out on salary - so have not had a raise in 10 years. Barely scraping by - if there is a financial emergency savings are gone. Credit in the toilet. Have I made bad decision? Sure - but so have lots of other 45-65 year olds. There is no time to recover from failure. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 10:18:24 PM EDT
[#11]
I've known a few. Permanent solution to a temporary problem.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 10:33:10 PM EDT
[#12]
I used to get dispatched to work on about every day around 4PM it seemed. One was a friend from highschool. I won't ever talk shit on .380 now. That went through and through a head, a door casing and several layers of folded jeans.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 10:38:25 PM EDT
[#13]
Guy I served with who seemed perfectly normal at least outwardly wound up sticking a shotgun in his mouth and pulling the trigger.
I think a nasty divorce and (possibly) exorbitant alimony payments may have been part of it. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 10:41:41 PM EDT
[#14]
I was a volunteer firefighter/medic in a town of 6,000 for twelve years. In that small town there were more suicides than I would have ever imagined.
|
|
|
|
TX, USA
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 10:41:58 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lou_Daks: I've known a few. Permanent solution to a temporary problem. Same. Fucking selfish cowards. Nothing like working the suicide of a guy you went to the police academy with who did it with his best friend’s duty weapon in his driveway for everyone to see. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 10:42:37 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: I used to get dispatched to work on about every day around 4PM it seemed. One was a friend from highschool. I won't ever talk shit on .380 now. That went through and through a head, a door casing and several layers of folded jeans. Anyone who "talks shit" on .380, .38 Special, or even lowly old .32, are a real special kind of retarded. Yeah, carry the most powerful caliber you can manage and are comfortable with, but don't EVER underestimate that family. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 11:04:27 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dyezak: Would you care to elaborate? I'm in that group. What do I need to look out for? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dyezak: Originally Posted By hooligan223: I can see why. I'm in that group and I've had to face some hard realities lately. Some days are a real struggle. Would you care to elaborate? I'm in that group. What do I need to look out for? Not necessarily the case of the poster you quoted but many at this point realize that either life choices or just plain bad luck will determine when they can retire. Many thinking they have a good plan up until this point and the wheels fall off. Between divorce, health issues, job loss and other things all the dreams they had go "poof." It is also when many parents die and life just isn't the same. |
|
|
|
OH, USA
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 11:05:13 PM EDT
[#18]
We need more God and Family - and less stuff or social media. It's a shit show out there and I worry for our kids.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 11:12:52 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 10mmillie: Fucking selfish cowards. 
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 11:15:57 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RRA_223: We need more God and Family - and less stuff or social media. It's a shit show out there and I worry for our kids. Same. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 11:16:03 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hooligan223: I can see why. I'm in that group and I've had to face some hard realities lately. Some days are a real struggle. I’m between 33-35 y/o and will also admit that I struggle with the same issues. The the constant “highs” and “lows” are worse than riding “The Tower Of Terror”. I really hope things start getting better for us. 
|
|
|
|
OH, USA
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 11:17:07 PM EDT
[#22]
Were they in a rock band?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 11:21:05 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lou_Daks: I've known a few. Permanent solution to a temporary problem. Plenty of problems are permanent. For the sake of those left behind, please reconsider the use of this trite phase that is entirely unhelpful and often incorrect. |
|
|
|
OH, USA
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 11:23:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jonny762]
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dyezak: Would you care to elaborate? I'm in that group. What do I need to look out for? |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/27/2024 11:25:15 PM EDT
[#25]
Yup,
My hometown of less than 1000 people had 3 suicides in the last couple months. All young men. The towns past time is heavy drinking though, sadly. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 12:01:44 AM EDT
[#26]
My best friend did it in 2003. After going through it in my head over the last 20 years I think it was because he was gay or not interested in women. He gave plenty of clues but I never put 2 and 2 together while he was alive. He did it when he was 33, all of us were getting married, having kids. His mom had mentioned to him she couldn't wait for his grandkids....3 months after that comment he did it (he didn't talk to her after she said that).
His mom who I was very close with asked me in 2020 what I think it was and I told her I didn't want to tell her...she kept insisting so I told her. She never talked to me again. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 12:06:18 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jonny762: I'm in that group. At least for me it's seeming to become a mix of "this is about as good as it's gonna get, it ain't very good, and it's getting worse".. on top of all that shit you always thought you'd be able do or accomplish at some unspecified point in the future? Yeah, ain't none of that happening. It's not "just gonna work out someday", and the windows that were missed when they were open ain't ever opening again. But I've long ago realized I just am not wired for suicide. Too chicken shit I guess. PM me whenever you’d like. I share many of the same struggles that you battle with every day. |
|
|
|
AZ, USA
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 12:10:29 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hooligan223: I can see why. I'm in that group and I've had to face some hard realities lately. Some days are a real struggle. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hooligan223: Originally Posted By Mike_Golf: Largest group tends to be white males 45-60 years old. I can see why. I'm in that group and I've had to face some hard realities lately. Some days are a real struggle. QFTMFT |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 8:16:10 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QueenDeNile: Man that really sucks. There is a theory on suicide contagion but who knows. I hope not. Two girls at my kids high school killed themselves within a few weeks of each other. The first was a friend of our youngest. A psychologist consulting with the school said there is a high likelihood of a second and the individual would most likely be a girl and wouldn’t be in the circle of friends of the first, she would be a friend of a friend of the first. The prediction came true within a month. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 9:57:49 AM EDT
[#30]
Surprisingly, many suicides turn out to have been on antidepressants! Their doctor didn't properly titrate the medication.
Many years ago, suicide was determined to be due to maladjusted chemical levels in the brain; this wasn't a scientific study, but they went about "adjusting" the chemicals anyway. One statistic I'm concerned about is the number of suicides due to self-defense situations; evidently the first year after a SD shooting is hazardous. Anyone care to elaborate? |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 10:00:16 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 10mmillie: Same. Fucking selfish cowards. Nothing like working the suicide of a guy you went to the police academy with who did it with his best friend’s duty weapon in his driveway for everyone to see. Lets see you apply that to a family member who makes the attempt. Your attitude will change. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 10:07:19 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jonny762: I'm in that group. At least for me it's seeming to become a mix of "this is about as good as it's gonna get, it ain't very good, and it's getting worse".. on top of all that shit you always thought you'd be able do or accomplish at some unspecified point in the future? Yeah, ain't none of that happening. It's not "just gonna work out someday", and the windows that were missed when they were open ain't ever opening again. But I've long ago realized I just am not wired for suicide. Too chicken shit I guess. I don't know man. I look at my father in law and am inspired. He's retired 4 times now. This last time a buddy called him with an idea when they were both 68y old. They got excited, pooled some cash, started this new business, got a couple government grants, signed 2 big customers...now he's started his 3rd company from scratch. It's not yet self sufficient but 45 aint shit. I'm watching a dude knocking on 70 accomplish more in two years than most kids right out of college. I guess it's perspective and motivation. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 10:10:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: fxntime]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 6gunfighter2: Guy I served with who seemed perfectly normal at least outwardly wound up sticking a shotgun in his mouth and pulling the trigger. I think a nasty divorce and (possibly) exorbitant alimony payments may have been part of it. A divorce after a long marriage a few years before retirement is probably one of the most mentally, financially, and emotionally difficult things a man will ever go through in his life. You WILL be wiped out in pretty much every way possible and most family friends will probably avoid you because females tend to be very good at draping the blame on the man, even if she was caught fvcking a threesome of pool boys on video. Even if you can dig your way out and even if you date, if you are smart, you won't ever get remarried because it's a financial ''bullet to the head'' game and once most woman find out they aren't ever getting a ring on their finger and he's a financial nothing hole to them and not their retirement nest egg, they will look elsewhere. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 10:21:55 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankSymptoms: Surprisingly, many suicides turn out to have been on antidepressants! Their doctor didn't properly titrate the medication. Many years ago, suicide was determined to be due to maladjusted chemical levels in the brain; this wasn't a scientific study, but they went about "adjusting" the chemicals anyway. Please clarify. Are you suggesting that people seek out help and go on antidepressants without any suicidal thoughts, then suicidal thoughts start after they start taking meds? If you see a fat person eating a salad, do you assume the salad is making them fat, or do you think it would be a reasonable conclusion that they eating a salad because they are fat? |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 10:25:58 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mike_Golf: Largest group tends to be white males 45-60 years old. yes and no. Not the largest but is increasing the most. CDC stats |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 10:31:24 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoStockBikes: Please clarify. Are you suggesting that people seek out help and go on antidepressants without any suicidal thoughts, then suicidal thoughts start after they start taking meds? If you see a fat person eating a salad, do you assume the salad is making them fat, or do you think it would be a reasonable conclusion that they eating a salad because they are fat? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoStockBikes: Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms: Surprisingly, many suicides turn out to have been on antidepressants! Their doctor didn't properly titrate the medication. Many years ago, suicide was determined to be due to maladjusted chemical levels in the brain; this wasn't a scientific study, but they went about "adjusting" the chemicals anyway. Please clarify. Are you suggesting that people seek out help and go on antidepressants without any suicidal thoughts, then suicidal thoughts start after they start taking meds? If you see a fat person eating a salad, do you assume the salad is making them fat, or do you think it would be a reasonable conclusion that they eating a salad because they are fat? I’ve been on a few and said f it. Two made me hear voices telling me to either end it or commit violent acts against people. One helped but the other side effects such as a crushed sex drive, inability to orgasm, ejaculating after urination and ED say F this. I asked one more time for help after stopping all meds for a few years. I made my complaints known so we tried a new medication. This one made me start planning suicide after years of suicidal ideation not being an issue. In my humble opinion these meds are poison with little redeeming quality for people who aren’t seriously off their rocker. I decided that I am what I am and I won’t be trying some chemical concoction to make me “normal” to others. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 10:51:05 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mike_Golf: Largest group tends to be white males 45-60 years old. I read somewhere that the smallest affected group was black females. The posited reasoning behind it was that black women have a much larger support network with their larger extended families and neighbors in close proximity. Perhaps there are some lessons to be learned for the over-represented groups in this figure. |
|
|
|
MI, USA
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 10:54:42 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Inquisitive_Spaniard: I’ve been on a few and said f it. Two made me hear voices telling me to either end it or commit violent acts against people. One helped but the other side effects such as a crushed sex drive, inability to orgasm, ejaculating after urination and ED say F this. I asked one more time for help after stopping all meds for a few years. I made my complaints known so we tried a new medication. This one made me start planning suicide after years of suicidal ideation not being an issue. In my humble opinion these meds are poison with little redeeming quality for people who aren’t seriously off their rocker. I decided that I am what I am and I won’t be trying some chemical concoction to make me “normal” to others. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Inquisitive_Spaniard: Originally Posted By NoStockBikes: Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms: Surprisingly, many suicides turn out to have been on antidepressants! Their doctor didn't properly titrate the medication. Many years ago, suicide was determined to be due to maladjusted chemical levels in the brain; this wasn't a scientific study, but they went about "adjusting" the chemicals anyway. Please clarify. Are you suggesting that people seek out help and go on antidepressants without any suicidal thoughts, then suicidal thoughts start after they start taking meds? If you see a fat person eating a salad, do you assume the salad is making them fat, or do you think it would be a reasonable conclusion that they eating a salad because they are fat? I’ve been on a few and said f it. Two made me hear voices telling me to either end it or commit violent acts against people. One helped but the other side effects such as a crushed sex drive, inability to orgasm, ejaculating after urination and ED say F this. I asked one more time for help after stopping all meds for a few years. I made my complaints known so we tried a new medication. This one made me start planning suicide after years of suicidal ideation not being an issue. In my humble opinion these meds are poison with little redeeming quality for people who aren’t seriously off their rocker. I decided that I am what I am and I won’t be trying some chemical concoction to make me “normal” to others. That is an interesting experience - glad you made it through all that. I’ll bet not everyone does. And the pharmaceutical industry has little incentive to really look at the problem. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 10:54:53 AM EDT
[#39]
What did they know about fair and honest elections?
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 10:55:08 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RRA_223: We need more God and Family - and less stuff or social media. It's a shit show out there and I worry for our kids. This ^^ Lots of people hopped up on some sort of drug; live self-absorbed lives; have no hope; just sit around all day and be miserable; broken families; etc....I could go on and on. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 10:56:50 AM EDT
[#41]
In the last 12 months I've personally known three people who have commiteed sucicde. A co-worker, a friend and a cousin.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 10:59:27 AM EDT
[#42]
When one happens here there's always 1 or 2 more not long after. Usually men in their late 20's or early 30's.
Several years ago it was two brothers. One shot himself, got all kinds of attention as a result, big service, the works. Like a month later his brother did the same and because of the history of them being a little crazy everyone was like "Yeah, seems like something he would do", and that was that. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 11:00:30 AM EDT
[#43]
I wonder if we will see more, during the seemingly unstoppable decline of American prominence and prosperity.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 11:00:49 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GDaawg: Had a friend years ago claimed he had a micropenis. Was always angry about everything and at everyone it seemed. Lost touch with him over the years but found out about 20 some odd years later he killed himself. My mind went straight to micropenis being the cause. My not so helpful suicide story for the week. Maybe not a direct cause, but being an actual incel probably really fucks with people. Poor guy, probably faced ridicule more than once if he got far enough with a woman. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 11:04:35 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankSymptoms: One statistic I'm concerned about is the number of suicides due to self-defense situations; evidently the first year after a SD shooting is hazardous. Anyone care to elaborate? Killing someone is troubling for a lot of people, regardless of the circumstances, and in the aftermath you often wonder if it was the right thing to do while dealing with the legal ramifications of it and often having your friends, relatives, and associates take on a completely different view of you. Sometimes there are nightmares, sometimes you may be in public and catch a glance of someone you’d swear was the person you killed, etc.. It sucks. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 11:04:56 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: Maybe not a direct cause, but being an actual incel probably really fucks with people. Poor guy, probably faced ridicule more than once if he got far enough with a woman. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: Originally Posted By GDaawg: Had a friend years ago claimed he had a micropenis. Was always angry about everything and at everyone it seemed. Lost touch with him over the years but found out about 20 some odd years later he killed himself. My mind went straight to micropenis being the cause. My not so helpful suicide story for the week. Maybe not a direct cause, but being an actual incel probably really fucks with people. Poor guy, probably faced ridicule more than once if he got far enough with a woman. Apparently it is more common than you would think and pretty common with the gym bros. I had a slutty coworker who was a big power lifter. She said that she and a number of her sloot friends stopped dating the gym bros because a huge percentage were micro penis. That would really suck. |
|
|
|
GA, USA
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 11:06:30 AM EDT
[#47]
Sad thing is this nation is going to need men for what comes next.
It will be hard ...depressing ...maybe thankless...that's what men do...we fight. Evil and Darkness is banking on pushing men to the point of breaking...it needs them hopless and broken. That is an open door for the flood gates of totalitarian horror. Don't give up or in my friends...stay in the fight...The King is on the front lines.  Why You Must Stop Evil People |
|
|
USA
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 11:07:31 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Uncompahgre: Plenty of problems are permanent. For the sake of those left behind, please reconsider the use of this trite phase that is entirely unhelpful and often incorrect. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Uncompahgre: Originally Posted By Lou_Daks: I've known a few. Permanent solution to a temporary problem. Plenty of problems are permanent. For the sake of those left behind, please reconsider the use of this trite phase that is entirely unhelpful and often incorrect. I had a friend in HS kill himself over a girl that led about him being abusive, broke up with him, etc. That was temporary. Someone doing that in their 40's to 50's because of divorce, permanent financial hardship from the family court system, destroyed relationships with children, etc are sometimes permanent problems. In either case, it's inappropriate to trivialize the issue. |
|
|
KY, USA
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 11:12:44 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walkure: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walkure: Originally Posted By 10mmillie: Fucking selfish cowards. I can understand the sentiment to a certain extent having dealt with suicidal people for alot of my life both personally and professional He is not wrong in some cases. But people commit suicide for a variety of reasons and it is more complex than people realize. Mental health issues are a part of it. There are a few traits I have seen in probably 75% of suicide or attempted suicidal persons though: 1. Poor life decisions or choices. They make bad decisions 2. Weak willed. Hate to say but most are weak willed persons. Not just because they committed suicide or tried to commit suicide but in their life as a whole. Ties in with 1. Not as black and white issue as many think though. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/28/2024 11:16:25 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By digitalebola: In my situation it has gotten bleak (im okay and getting through). 54 separated from wife two years ago. Moved to another state. Still paying for the house which she lives in. See my son once a month. Living in a 70 year old house (grandads old place) in the past 3 months I have had to rewire the place, tear out a wall to fix a plumbing leak. A week later the water heater went. Job sucks maxed out on salary - so have not had a raise in 10 years. Barely scraping by - if there is a financial emergency savings are gone. Credit in the toilet. Have I made bad decision? Sure - but so have lots of other 45-65 year olds. There is no time to recover from failure. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By digitalebola: Originally Posted By dyezak: Would you care to elaborate? I'm in that group. What do I need to look out for? In my situation it has gotten bleak (im okay and getting through). 54 separated from wife two years ago. Moved to another state. Still paying for the house which she lives in. See my son once a month. Living in a 70 year old house (grandads old place) in the past 3 months I have had to rewire the place, tear out a wall to fix a plumbing leak. A week later the water heater went. Job sucks maxed out on salary - so have not had a raise in 10 years. Barely scraping by - if there is a financial emergency savings are gone. Credit in the toilet. Have I made bad decision? Sure - but so have lots of other 45-65 year olds. There is no time to recover from failure. |
|
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
