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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:41:19 PM EDT
I just got off the phone with my distraught wife. Sounds like she rolled through a stop sign (her fault), when there was a city cop right behind her. She got pulled over, and asked for her paperwork. She informed the officer that she has a pistol in her glove-box where the paper work was.
She said the office demanded that he be able to remove the pistol from the glove box before she was able to get in and get her paperwork. She said ok (not sure why), and he went around to the other side of the car, reached in the open window, opened the glove-box, and took the pistol. After she got him the paperwork, and he came back to the car....she said he handed her the pistol in pieces. Mag with rounds removed, and slide off of the frame........who does that? I'm pretty pro-LEO, but it sounds like the way overstepped his bounds. My wife's biggest complaint "I have no idea how to put this thing back together...you are going to halve to help me".....  How often to cops dissemble guns before giving them back?? |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:42:38 PM EDT
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Fucker thinks hes steven segal or something
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:42:54 PM EDT
[#2]
I've never seen them do it.......most of the time they remove the magazine and the round in the chamber and hand it back. Or at least that was my experience
I'd probably be pissed off |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:43:09 PM EDT
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I would be filing a complaint. That is complete bullshit.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:43:58 PM EDT
[#4]
I been working 25 years never done that ever. If you aren’t a criminal in possession I could care less. Since we conceal carry in Illinois is always turns into gun talk with someone. To each their own it’s just not me.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:44:35 PM EDT
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SOP are different for departments. This could be answered in probably 20,000 different ways.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:44:41 PM EDT
[#6]
I've never seen that happen in real life.
Got a gun? Big deal. So do I. We going to get through this peacefully. I think I've only "disarmed" one guy and it was because I thought he was going to accidently shoot us both because he was so nervous. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:45:36 PM EDT
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Strange to give back the gun field stripped.
Strange to keep her insurance and registration under a gun. Strange to not know how to assemble her “carry” gun. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:45:46 PM EDT
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That's
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:46:39 PM EDT
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LOL, never had one disassembled. Have had a few completely unloaded by the Ohio Highway Patrol, nothing like getting 16 loose rounds of 9mm poured into your hands along with your DL and insurance card.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:47:15 PM EDT
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Safety science would dictate finger fucking an unfamiliar gun as little as possible.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:48:27 PM EDT
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BP did this to a buddy of mine yrs ago.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:49:22 PM EDT
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Closest I've come to that is when Seattle PD disarmed me, as I was a witness to attempted auto theft as well as some vandalism.
LEO pulled my holster, pistol inside, from my side and decided to fiddle with it to get the round from the chamber. Pistol was given back in one piece but I doubt they'd have figured out how to disassemble the HK P7, as they had a hard enough time figuring out it was a heel mag release. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:49:43 PM EDT
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Was it a Ruger Mark III? Maybe he couldn’t figure out how to put it back together.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:50:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Safety science would dictate finger fucking an unfamiliar gun as little as possible. Unless you're Super Cop, trying to show your absolute mastery of all things guns. I wonder what would have happened if he had an AD while doing it? Dumbass |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:51:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would be filing a complaint. That is complete bullshit. File it skippy. Plenty of modern agencies train that nowadays. I’ve never handed a loaded, ready to fire weapon back to a stranger I met on a law enforcement encounter. That’s asking for your name on the LODD memorial. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:51:31 PM EDT
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It's a S&W Shield.....why do to the trouble to pip the pin out in order to get the slide off. Actually, if he did that....I bet the barrel and guide rod and spring were out of the frame also.
I'll have to post a picture of the pieces when I see them.... |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:51:46 PM EDT
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But did he do it Jackie Chan style with one hand?
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:51:49 PM EDT
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I've watched a metric fuck ton of youtube videos involving citizens with guns and it's usually the cops whom also display vapid insecurities that will do that.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:53:31 PM EDT
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In actuality OP, You fail for not teaching your wife how to field strip that firearm.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:53:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: File it skippy. Plenty of modern agencies train that nowadays. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would be filing a complaint. That is complete bullshit. File it skippy. Plenty of modern agencies train that nowadays. I wonder what the point of that is? I can understand pulling the mag, and a round out of the chamber....but pulling the slide off, and then having the barrel, guide rod, and spring potentially fall out of the frame? Seems like a jerk move. Nothing like like getting handed back your license, insurance paperwork, registration paper, mag, several 9mm rounds, a frame, and a slide..... |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:54:04 PM EDT
[#21]
Dick move and the cop must be afraid of inanimate objects.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:54:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In actuality OP, You fail for not teaching your wife how to field strip that firearm. Well, she's going to learn tonight I guess 
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:54:26 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Strange to give back the gun field stripped. Strange to keep her insurance and registration under a gun. Strange to not know how to assemble her “carry” gun.  |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:55:32 PM EDT
[#24]
The coward cops that don't think you deserve to have a gun because you aren't a professional like they are will do that shit.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:55:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: I just got off the phone with my distraught wife. Sounds like she rolled through a stop sign (her fault), when there was a city cop right behind her. She got pulled over, and asked for her paperwork. She informed the officer that she has a pistol in her glove-box where the paper work was. She said the office demanded that he be able to remove the pistol from the glove box before she was able to get in and get her paperwork. She said ok (not sure why), and he went around to the other side of the car, reached in the open window, opened the glove-box, and took the pistol. After she got him the paperwork, and he came back to the car....she said he handed her the pistol in pieces. Mag with rounds removed, and slide off of the frame........who does that? I'm pretty pro-LEO, but it sounds like the way overstepped his bounds. My wife's biggest complaint "I have no idea how to put this thing back together...you are going to halve to help me"..... How often to cops dissemble guns before giving them back?? Stupid on every level. Former employee of a sheriffs department and supporter of Leo’s (boot licker) whatever. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:56:17 PM EDT
[#26]
Clearly OP has never seen Sicario
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:56:25 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, never had one disassembled. Have had a few completely unloaded by the Ohio Highway Patrol, nothing like getting 16 loose rounds of 9mm poured into your hands along with your DL and insurance card. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:58:43 PM EDT
[#28]
wow, feel so much safer now.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:59:02 PM EDT
[#29]
I got stopped on a fishing expedition (cops fishing for crimes, not me on the way to the lake) and they fully disassembled my Makarov, unloaded the mag, and left the scattered ammo and pistol parts in my truck bed. They told me I could collect it all after they drove away. I was very upset.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:59:24 PM EDT
[#30]
That's crossing the line.
No more support. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:59:28 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Stupid on every level. Former employee of a sheriffs department and supporter of Leo’s (boot licker) whatever. I’ll also add, I offer my ID and handgun everytime I interact with cops and only had one take me up on the offer. He needed it for a report apparently. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:01:41 PM EDT
[#32]
I think I heard somebody here complain of it before, but beyond that, I don't know. Certainly never seen it done.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:03:10 PM EDT
[#33]
What demographic (both), and which municipality... probably makes a difference even though it shouldn't.
Pretty sure MO wouldn't see a rolled stop sign as cause to disarm a motorist. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:05:12 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: File it skippy. Plenty of modern agencies train that nowadays. I’ve never handed a loaded, ready to fire weapon back to a stranger I met on a law enforcement encounter. That’s asking for your name on the LODD memorial. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would be filing a complaint. That is complete bullshit. File it skippy. Plenty of modern agencies train that nowadays. I’ve never handed a loaded, ready to fire weapon back to a stranger I met on a law enforcement encounter. That’s asking for your name on the LODD memorial. Your attitude is fucking stupid. As is training to do that. It's disrespectful and you left a previously peacefully armed woman on the side of the road, now defenseless, thanks to your elitist "she might shoot me!" bullshit. Fuck off with that shit. I have friends who are cops, trained with one at the last two firearm classes I attended, and I'm here to tell you that it's this kind of shit that is making us enemies instead of friends and supporters. Enjoy your pariah status. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:06:04 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In actuality OP, You fail for not teaching your wife how to field strip that firearm. His is a secondary failure. The cop disassembling a lawfully carried firearm and leaving a citizen defenseless was the primary failure here. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:07:08 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What demographic (both), and which municipality... probably makes a difference even though it shouldn't. Pretty sure MO wouldn't see a rolled stop sign as cause to disarm a motorist. Early 40's white female in business suite and nice car with no criminal record....pulled over by middle aged white officer. She definitely doesn't look like someone that would be a threat to any LEO. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:07:30 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: File it skippy. Plenty of modern agencies train that nowadays. I’ve never handed a loaded, ready to fire weapon back to a stranger I met on a law enforcement encounter. That’s asking for your name on the LODD memorial. You'd likely need to explain your cause for having the firearm in the first place. Oh wait... "officer safety". |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:08:20 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Unless you're Super Cop, trying to show your absolute mastery of all things guns. I wonder what would have happened if he had an AD while doing it? Dumbass We all know what would have happened. He'd have said she did it. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:09:02 PM EDT
[#39]
Indianapolis PD for sure does it or at least some of them do. I had one take my Glock 19 apart and give it back to me in a zip lock bag…I had it back together and a round in the chamber before he even pulled off. I think he assumed that I probably didn’t know how to break a Glock down but he was wrong as 2 left feet.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:09:09 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: File it skippy. Plenty of modern agencies train that nowadays. I’ve never handed a loaded, ready to fire weapon back to a stranger I met on a law enforcement encounter. That’s asking for your name on the LODD memorial. There are agencies that "train" officers to disassemble lawfully carried firearm? As in the official training program. Not something some lone FTO or other person did on their own. I'd like to see the policy and training materials to go along with that. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:12:37 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are agencies that "train" officers to disassemble lawfully carried firearm? As in the official training program. Not something some lone FTO or other person did on their own. I'd like to see the policy and training materials to go along with that. Would seem a dangerous policy, doesn't a glock require the trigger to be pulled for disassembly? God help them in they get a sig p320 self firing gun... |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:14:21 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Early 40's white female in business suite and nice car with no criminal record....pulled over by middle aged white officer. She definitely doesn't look like someone that would be a threat to any LEO. So it was likely a power trip... stl area I'd put my money on Creve Coeur. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:16:14 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Early 40's white female in business suite and nice car with no criminal record....pulled over by middle aged white officer. She definitely doesn't look like someone that would be a threat to any LEO. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What demographic (both), and which municipality... probably makes a difference even though it shouldn't. Pretty sure MO wouldn't see a rolled stop sign as cause to disarm a motorist. Early 40's white female in business suite and nice car with no criminal record....pulled over by middle aged white officer. She definitely doesn't look like someone that would be a threat to any LEO. To some cops, any non-cop is a threat if they don't treat us like one. That is the cultural problem in LE, and it's mainly driven by the Union. Which is also a subset of the fucking commies, so it makes sense they would promote "papers please" and disarmament. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:16:41 PM EDT
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Contact the PD and demand to see a copy of his "Certified Armorer Certificate for Brand (whatever your wife has) pistols".
Otherwise he has ZERO business "dissembling" anyone's firearms. On a routine traffic stop - is the officer also supposed to open the trunk - dig around to take out her jack and raise her vehicle and remove the rear tire to keep her from "harming" him? |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:16:50 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your attitude is fucking stupid. As is training to do that. It's disrespectful and you left a previously peacefully armed woman on the side of the road, now defenseless, thanks to your elitist "she might shoot me!" bullshit. Fuck off with that shit. I have friends who are cops, trained with one at the last two firearm classes I attended, and I'm here to tell you that it's this kind of shit that is making us enemies instead of friends and supporters. Enjoy your pariah status. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I would be filing a complaint. That is complete bullshit. File it skippy. Plenty of modern agencies train that nowadays. I’ve never handed a loaded, ready to fire weapon back to a stranger I met on a law enforcement encounter. That’s asking for your name on the LODD memorial. Your attitude is fucking stupid. As is training to do that. It's disrespectful and you left a previously peacefully armed woman on the side of the road, now defenseless, thanks to your elitist "she might shoot me!" bullshit. Fuck off with that shit. I have friends who are cops, trained with one at the last two firearm classes I attended, and I'm here to tell you that it's this kind of shit that is making us enemies instead of friends and supporters. Enjoy your pariah status. 100% this. Very shit attitude. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:19:03 PM EDT
[#46]
No, contact a supervisor.
If this was one on my cats, he and his sgt. would be articulating in writing on Monday as to his intentions and the furtherance of justice of his actions. 18Z50 |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:19:30 PM EDT
[#47]
Could get you in serious trouble doing that here. If you disassemble a gun during an arrest or investigation, at least in NY they will argue that you could have changed the operability status of that weapon.
No idea why the officer thought it made sense to do that |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:20:25 PM EDT
[#48]
There isn't even a need to see paper work beyond an ID. Registration/insurance can be pulled from the plates and ID is just to verify who you are. Not sure how I would handle it... as I'm pretty non-confrontational.... I'd certainly feel uncomfortable with someone taking my firearm |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:20:38 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Would seem a dangerous policy, doesn't a glock require the trigger to be pulled for disassembly? God help them in they get a sig p320 self firing gun... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are agencies that "train" officers to disassemble lawfully carried firearm? As in the official training program. Not something some lone FTO or other person did on their own. I'd like to see the policy and training materials to go along with that. Would seem a dangerous policy, doesn't a glock require the trigger to be pulled for disassembly? God help them in they get a sig p320 self firing gun... You would have to design a class to teach field stripping of very firearm out there, certify that EVERYONE knows how to do this and it get approved by whomever they have insurance with. Along with an annual refresher. I'm kind of doubting that is happening. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:21:20 PM EDT
[#50]
Kinda makes sense from the cops perspective aint gonna hand someone their gun back and get shot by it. Bet he sped right off after he gave it back.
Sounds like some bullshit though. Why does your wife not know how to field strip and reassemble her own carry piece? Not that I have any place to talk, I'd be lucky if my wife remembers where a gun is or how to shoot it... |
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