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Posted: 4/24/2024 2:37:11 PM EDT
Last fall I noticed a knot on my Achilles tendon about 4-5” above the bottom of my foot. Ortho looked at it, had an MRI and said it was tendinitis and would require surgery to reconstruct it. In January, had the surgery where they removed the damaged part of the Achilles tendon, then clipped another tendon attached to my big toe and sewed that tendon to the Achilles to reinforce it. No weight bearing for six weeks, then started physical therapy. Third week of physical therapy had me attempting to raise up with my toes and had a pop with sharp pain. Popped loud enough that three other people heard it. Back to the doctor who felt of it and did some tests, scheduled another MRI. Got the results today, full Achilles tendon rupture above the original repair. Fortunately the donor tendon held, but having a second surgery next week to dig the top part of the tendon out of my calf, debride the damage on both ends, then suture everything back together for another 12 weeks minimum of recovery and rehab. I’m thinking pretty seriously of retiring when I’m released, considering the oil industry is probably not going to get any easier on the body.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 2:38:51 PM EDT
[#1]
Ouch!
Best of luck in the recovery. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 2:39:28 PM EDT
[#2]
Ever take levaquin antibiotic? Or other fluoridated antibiotics?
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KY, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 2:41:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Time for BPC-157 and TB500
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MT, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 2:42:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spyderboy03]
[#4]
 I detached my left achilles from the heel bone December 15th and had it reattached December 20th. My surgeon didn't let me start PT until 9 or 10 weeks. I was frustrated with waiting that long, but it is going well per my PT. Nothing ballistic until 6 months and likely a year until I'm "back to normal" per the surgeon and PT. I cannot imagine tearing it again during recovery, especially in a different spot! Good luck man! |
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USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 2:42:49 PM EDT
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Your other Achilles is probably more than likely now more risk than your surgically repaired one if the two surgeons did their job right
Sorry to hear you had the recoil into the calf |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 2:48:14 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Oakley: Ouch! Best of luck in the recovery. Thanks. Fortunately it’s not been extremely painful unless I push off from my toes. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 2:49:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shaneus: Ever take levaquin antibiotic? Or other fluoridated antibiotics? Yep, Levaquin prophylaxis after having a total knee replacement on that leg a couple of years ago. Likely had it with other knee surgeries as well. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 2:50:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kent]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shaneus: Ever take levaquin antibiotic? Or other fluoridated antibiotics? Indeed. "Tendon Rupture" is a specific and known possible side effect of ciprofloxacin, (aka, CIPRO) and Levaquin-- it's right there on the patient info sheet for those meds. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 2:50:10 PM EDT
[#9]
ouch...
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 2:50:26 PM EDT
[#10]
Ruptured Achilles, torn bicep tendon, and detached retinas are my biggest fear. Sorry you’re going thru this OP.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 2:51:47 PM EDT
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Oh man, sorry you've had that trouble. I have similar symptoms to your original description (soreness, especially after walking; 'knots' a few inches above my heels). A foot specialist told me it is not sprained/torn/ruptured/whatever but was just sort of "bruised". Diagnosis was chronic tendonitis and treatment was an impossible to keep stretching regimen (3 x 20 minutes a day for each ankle, minimum). I did that for several months with little change. I then went to an athletic trainer, got some different stretching exercises that were more reasonable (~5 minutes per ankle, 3 x a day) and some cryotherapy. The stretching didn't seem to help but I did feel 'normal' for an hour or so after the cryotherapy. I finally reduced the stretching to just once a day and kind of live with the soreness after long walks (the ankles don't bother me nearly as much when hiking with elevation changes, so I'm guessing the different angles do a better job of stretching out things, as a matter of course).
I hope your surgeries and injuries aren't in my future. 
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Posted: 4/24/2024 2:55:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spyderboy03: I detached my left achilles from the heel bone December 15th and had it reattached December 20th. My surgeon didn't let me start PT until 9 or 10 weeks. I was frustrated with waiting that long, but it is going well per my PT. Nothing ballistic until 6 months and likely a year until I'm "back to normal" per the surgeon and PT. I cannot imagine tearing it again during recovery, especially in a different spot! Good luck man! TY. Fortunately not as painful as the knee replacement was, but not something I’m enjoying a second go around with, lol. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 2:57:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By baitdragger: Your other Achilles is probably more than likely now more risk than your surgically repaired one if the two surgeons did their job right Sorry to hear you had the recoil into the calf Yeah, hopefully this one gets it strengthened up. The ortho that did it has a good reputation and he looked devastated when he figured out what happened. I told him to put a few more sutures in this time. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 2:59:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kent: Indeed. "Tendon Rupture" is a specific and known possible side effect of ciprofloxacin, (aka, CIPRO) and Levaquin-- it's right there on the patient info sheet for those meds. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kent: Originally Posted By shaneus: Ever take levaquin antibiotic? Or other fluoridated antibiotics? Indeed. "Tendon Rupture" is a specific and known possible side effect of ciprofloxacin, (aka, CIPRO) and Levaquin-- it's right there on the patient info sheet for those meds. I’ve taken three rounds of Cipro in the past for prostate infections and apparently hit the lottery with the side effect. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:02:06 PM EDT
[#15]
Yep, this getting old shit definitely ain’t for wimps.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:02:18 PM EDT
[#16]
You mentioned you work in oil. Are you a delivery guy for penzoil by chance? Just recently became employed by a penzoil oil company. Just wanted to see how your experience has been.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:03:22 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlabamaFan64: Yep, this getting old shit definitely ain’t for wimps. And i just had to take yesterday off for a strained back. I feel for ya |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:04:13 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Triggerstuck: Ruptured Achilles, torn bicep tendon, and detached retinas are my biggest fear. Sorry you’re going thru this OP. Bicep is pretty minor honestly. Ruptured mine a few years ago on 12/31, surgery on 1/11. I was back in the 500’s on deads by May and back in the 600’s by July. If I had known about the healing peptides I mentioned earlier, it would have been even quicker |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:07:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zook07: You mentioned you work in oil. Are you a delivery guy for penzoil by chance? Just recently became employed by a penzoil oil company. Just wanted to see how your experience has been. Actually I work in an oil refinery for one of the big three. Sulfur plant operations. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:09:39 PM EDT
[#20]
I ruptured my quad tendon in my left knee. Not fun. Not fun at all. I’m continuing to push it and strengthen the muscles around it, but it’s about as good as it’s gonna get.
I can get up from my desk and take off running. I’m 49 and in pretty good shape, but I’m not very fast anymore. 
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:10:11 PM EDT
[#21]
I ruptured my quad tendon in my left knee. Not fun. Not fun at all. I’m continuing to push it and strengthen the muscles around it, but it’s about as good as it’s gonna get.
I can get up from my desk and take off running. I’m 49 and in pretty good shape, but I’m not very fast anymore.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:12:06 PM EDT
[#22]
Well that sucks, OP...
Wishing you a complete recovery. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:27:54 PM EDT
[#23]
Any TRT?
Have had 2 friends both rupture theirs. Both docs mentioned the risk of a rupture due to TRT. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:29:01 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Any TRT? Have had 2 friends both rupture theirs. Both docs mentioned the risk of a rupture due to TRT. No, I’ve gotten tested a few times but it’s always been on the high side and middle range. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 4:49:07 PM EDT
[#25]
That is a long surgical recovery procedure, but it is kind of an important thing to have fixed.
A co-worker (firefighter) was late 20's or early 30's, took a full year to come back to shift. He was in fantastic shape when it happened. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 4:53:08 PM EDT
[#26]
Man...sorry. Having had Achilles issues, although nothing like yours...here is wishing the best for you.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 4:56:41 PM EDT
[#27]
damn sorry to hear that -- hang in there man
how old are you approx. ?? i can relate -- tore my pec major muscle bench pressing 6 years ago. major ouch. no more heavy benching for me (mid 50s) |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 5:00:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2024 5:01:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kubota3430: That is a long surgical recovery procedure, but it is kind of an important thing to have fixed. A co-worker (firefighter) was late 20's or early 30's, took a full year to come back to shift. He was in fantastic shape when it happened. Straight up rupture is six months of rehab from what I was told. Pretty much have to learn how to walk again after that injury and surgery. Fortunately my donor tendon held and I’m only looking at an extra 3 months instead of 6. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 5:01:39 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlabamaFan64: I've taken three rounds of Cipro in the past for prostate infections and apparently hit the lottery with the side effect. A Cipro horror story from Mr. Ballen!  Always read the warning label! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 5:05:30 PM EDT
[#31]
That sucks OP. Hope you heal quickly.
I'm going through something similar. Partially tore my bicep at Jiu-Jitsu two weeks ago. There is now a more noticeable gap between my bicep and deltoid on my right arm. Heard a pop when it happened, but aside from being a bit weak for a couple of days. Nothing. No pain, soreness, bruising, ROM issues, or swelling. My MRI is still three weeks away so we'll see what happens. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 5:06:22 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFP_4073: damn sorry to hear that -- hang in there man how old are you approx. ?? i can relate -- tore my pec major muscle bench pressing 6 years ago. major ouch. no more heavy benching for me (mid 50s) 60 in September, and now looking like a nice round number for retirement. It’s definitely an adjustment trying to work around weak points. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 5:07:08 PM EDT
[#33]
Damn. Good luck and heal quickly.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 5:07:23 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kid_Sampson: That sucks OP. Hope you heal quickly. I'm going through something similar. Partially tore my bicep at Jiu-Jitsu two weeks ago. There is now a more noticeable gap between my bicep and deltoid on my right arm. Heard a pop when it happened, but aside from being a bit weak for a couple of days. Nothing. No pain, soreness, bruising, ROM issues, or swelling. My MRI is still three weeks away so we'll see what happens. Good luck with that MRI. That doesn’t sound like it’s gonna be much fun. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 5:07:50 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlabamaFan64: Yep, Levaquin prophylaxis after having a total knee replacement on that leg a couple of years ago. Likely had it with other knee surgeries as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlabamaFan64: Originally Posted By shaneus: Ever take levaquin antibiotic? Or other fluoridated antibiotics? Yep, Levaquin prophylaxis after having a total knee replacement on that leg a couple of years ago. Likely had it with other knee surgeries as well. Big Pharma hates you. Black box med has #1 side effect of….tendon rupture. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 5:11:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sdsquad1]
[#36]
Sounds like you had micro tears of the tendon . A ten-x procedure seems to be the way for you and its not a big deal. They put a small incision in the back of your ankle and debris the tendon. They take your blood before surgery and then spin it down to white blood cells and inject the white cells or plasma into the area to help heal the area. Needless to say your tendon will never be the same nor your calf muscle. PT will help but it will never be 100% back to your younger days. I had the surgery about 6 years ago before that I lived with that tendon for 15 years all caused from cardio rope jumping
Im 70 and keep on trucking everything is in moderation these days.....Good luck edit :spelling |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 5:13:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NVCapCop: Big Pharma hates you. Black box med has #1 side effect of….tendon rupture. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NVCapCop: Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64: Originally Posted By shaneus: Ever take levaquin antibiotic? Or other fluoridated antibiotics? Yep, Levaquin prophylaxis after having a total knee replacement on that leg a couple of years ago. Likely had it with other knee surgeries as well. Big Pharma hates you. Black box med has #1 side effect of….tendon rupture. Yeah, they obviously have something against me! |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 5:19:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sdsquad1: Sounds like you had micro tears of the tendon . All your need was a tenx procedure done not a big deal. They put a small incision in the back of your ankle and debris the tendon. They take your blood before surgery and then spin it down to white blood cells and inject the white cells or plasma into the area to help heal the area. Needless to say your tendon will never be the same nor your calf muscle. That would have been an option if it had been caught earlier. I wasn’t having any pain until after I’d found the knot in the tendon so it apparently did lots of damage before I realized it was a problem. My orthopedic doctor said if the MRI is showing 50% or more of the tendon is damaged, that’s where they debride the damaged tissue and suture a donor tendon to reconstruct it. I use a sports doctor as triage at this clinic and on the first visit when he referred me to their ankle specialist, he felt it was going to be damaged enough to need surgery too. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 5:23:58 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kent: Indeed. "Tendon Rupture" is a specific and known possible side effect of ciprofloxacin, (aka, CIPRO) and Levaquin-- it's right there on the patient info sheet for those meds. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kent: Originally Posted By shaneus: Ever take levaquin antibiotic? Or other fluoridated antibiotics? Indeed. "Tendon Rupture" is a specific and known possible side effect of ciprofloxacin, (aka, CIPRO) and Levaquin-- it's right there on the patient info sheet for those meds. Yup. Any of the fluoroquinolone class antibiotics (ending in -floxacin). |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 6:23:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlabamaFan64: I’ve taken three rounds of Cipro in the past for prostate infections and apparently hit the lottery with the side effect. My doc wanted to put me on Cipro for the same thing. Thanks to ARF I told him I wanted a different antibiotic and he switched it. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 6:27:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By criley: My doc wanted to put me on Cipro for the same thing. Thanks to ARF I told him I wanted a different antibiotic and he switched it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By criley: Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64: I’ve taken three rounds of Cipro in the past for prostate infections and apparently hit the lottery with the side effect. My doc wanted to put me on Cipro for the same thing. Thanks to ARF I told him I wanted a different antibiotic and he switched it. I’d taken Keflex a few times, bone infection the first time, then a prostate infection. No problem either time. Had an ingrown toenail and my feet got soaked in stagnant water in a bottom while deer hunting and got an infection I couldn’t get rid of. Keflex made me really sick that time and they swapped to Cipro after that. I thought pretty highly of it until recently. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:03:40 PM EDT
[#42]
Sorry to hear about your Achilles issues. I sympathize because I have had both Achilles repaired. They both got tendinitis which turned to tendinosis then tendinopathy. They each had an almond size lump in the tendon. I was scheduled for surgery on the right foot, when the left tendon snapped. They stitched it back together and used a cadaver tendon which they sliced into a sheet and wrapped around my tendon, forming a burrito of sorts. It made the tendon thicker for about 3 inches but it really gave it support. It’s held up really well and I had the other one done the same way before it broke. The first one broke in April, then three months later I had the other one done. In September, I was running around in the mountains of Montana bow hunting for elk. I was told the reason the Achilles tendon gets tendinitis in it is due to a lack of circulation.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:06:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gastone165: Sorry to hear about your Achilles issues. I sympathize because I have had both Achilles repaired. They both got tendinitis which turned to tendinosis then tendinopathy. They each had an almond size lump in the tendon. I was scheduled for surgery on the right foot, when the left tendon snapped. They stitched it back together and used a cadaver tendon which they sliced into a sheet and wrapped around my tendon, forming a burrito of sorts. It made the tendon thicker for about 3 inches but it really gave it support. It’s held up really well and I had the other one done the same way before it broke. The first one broke in April, then three months later I had the other one done. In September, I was running around in the mountains of Montana bow hunting for elk. I was told the reason the Achilles tendon gets tendinitis in it is due to a lack of circulation. I’m not surprised about lack of circulation. Tendons don’t get much to begin with. The total knee replacement I had a couple of years earlier on that leg probably didn’t help, either, plus several years of limping around on that leg with severe arthritis. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:09:01 PM EDT
[#44]
Had a bicycle pedal nearly sever my Achilles when I was young. They had to stitch the tendon together and put me in a cast for 8 weeks. After the cast came off I was in PT for about a year.
Is it possible your physical terrorist was moving you along too quickly in your sessions? |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:09:04 PM EDT
[#45]
My nephew just blew his Achilles out playing basketball. He's in his mid 20s, dedicated to lifting heavy weight in the gym. Of all things, I did not expect to hear it happened during a basketball game. He deadlifts something crazy like 500+ lbs.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:10:56 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlabamaFan64: I’d taken Keflex a few times, bone infection the first time, then a prostate infection. No problem either time. Had an ingrown toenail and my feet got soaked in stagnant water in a bottom while deer hunting and got an infection I couldn’t get rid of. Keflex made me really sick that time and they swapped to Cipro after that. I thought pretty highly of it until recently. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlabamaFan64: Originally Posted By criley: Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64: I’ve taken three rounds of Cipro in the past for prostate infections and apparently hit the lottery with the side effect. My doc wanted to put me on Cipro for the same thing. Thanks to ARF I told him I wanted a different antibiotic and he switched it. I’d taken Keflex a few times, bone infection the first time, then a prostate infection. No problem either time. Had an ingrown toenail and my feet got soaked in stagnant water in a bottom while deer hunting and got an infection I couldn’t get rid of. Keflex made me really sick that time and they swapped to Cipro after that. I thought pretty highly of it until recently. They’re potent antibiotics, but there’s that risk of side effects. Although the stated % is low (relatively), I have to wonder about the figures and statistics. Achilles tendon ruptures in patients 60 and up are the most commonly associated tendon rupture related to fluoroquinolones, but the biggest factor in the statistic, is that questioning generally doesn’t provide any other factors besides, “Yes, I’ve recently been prescribed Cipro/Levaquin etc. No, I wasn’t doing anything particularly strenuous. I just felt a pop while walking, jogging etc”. But what about younger patients suffering pectoral detachments while doing bench presses, biceps detachments while doing deadlifts or curls, rotator cuff injuries etc.? Most of the time, people (including physicians) simply think, “Well, THERE’S your problem. Too much weight/load for your body”, and they don’t ask any more questions. *** FYI, Keflex/Cephalexin has also been associated with tendinopathy. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:10:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: memsu]
[#47]
I dealt with achilles tendinitis earlier this year.
Not recommended, that shit hurt. There's some surgery they can do to loosen the calf muscle to relive the pressure. I have a bone spur forming on mine. I don't want a knife anywhere near my tendon if I can help it. Still trying to work my way back into work boots. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:13:58 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ProfessorFalken: My nephew just blew his Achilles out playing basketball. He's in his mid 20s, dedicated to lifting heavy weight in the gym. Of all things, I did not expect to hear it happened during a basketball game. He deadlifts something crazy like 500+ lbs. The Achilles tendon is subjected to a lot of force when doing things like jumping or sprinting. In comparison the force exerted on that particular tendon isn’t as much, even on heavy deadlifts. The dynamic/explosive movements are the stressors. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:15:23 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By baize82: Time for BPC-157 and TB500 I've thought about this myself. It would be cool to see if the tendon healing was significantly faster or resulted in a more complete healing. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:16:36 PM EDT
[#50]
It was the cipro/levaquin that did you in. I took one pill and spent the next year in a wheelchair then another two years with a cane. In my case I couldn't even get a surgeon to look at me or insurance to pay for anything as they didn't believe me. Was a pretty rough time and am still having problems 4 years later. All from a single Cipro pill.
It causes the mitochondrial cells that form collagen fibers to die off rapidly and they don't come back very quickly, and when they do start to replicate again they are replicating damaged versions of themselves. You have to avoid all antibiotics including those found in meat. Start buying only antibiotic free meat if you want to stop the damage from getting worse. |
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