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Link Posted: 4/11/2024 2:44:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/11/2024 2:45:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Third_Rail:
Sounds like a culture committing suicide to me.
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It does, doesn't it?

Speaking strictly from my own experience it can be challenging to talk someone out of suicidal ideation. How does one talk an entire culture out of it?
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 2:50:38 PM EDT
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When I was 21, I sold my car because I couldn't afford insurance and to keep it running, and commuted on a bicycle.  I shared a two bedroom apartment with two other guys.  Ate a lot of rice and beans and cheap burritos.  Had no cable.  Obviously no internet since it had not been invented yet.  No iPhones, no expensive TV, stereo, or anything else.

I am tired of hearing how boomers had it so easy and that we voted for it.  I always voted for small government.  It was the democrats that voted for entitlements and massive government pensions.  The unions that drove up the cost of living with wages higher than most professionals.

I couldn't afford to put a down payment on our first small house until the wife and I had been married for a year... with two professional career incomes.  It is unrealistic to think a single guy working an entry level job should be able to afford the lifestyle of those who put in years of effort and living within their budget.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 2:54:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KILLERB6:
In a survey conducted by the Generation Lab found that the majority of young voters favored more government intervention in things like student loans, banking, stock markets, etc.

And since they out number the more conservative X, boomies and silents…looks like we’re getting more government intervention.
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Originally Posted By KILLERB6:
Originally Posted By JamiesGotAGun:
Government:

The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.
In a survey conducted by the Generation Lab found that the majority of young voters favored more government intervention in things like student loans, banking, stock markets, etc.

And since they out number the more conservative X, boomies and silents…looks like we’re getting more government intervention.


So you can either harness that and target govt intervention in ways that disadvantage your enemies (ie screwing colleges with the tab for student loans etc) or just scream and kick about how much you want a small govt and to just be left alone.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 2:55:37 PM EDT
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min wage is $15hr here.

work 2 jobs.

not sure why this is so hard for people.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 2:57:52 PM EDT
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I like how he IMMEDIATELY Focused on the wrong thing: Federal minimum wage.


the problem is in your government, and the relentless, and soul draining inflation.  


And Z is pissed about it, but they OVERWHELMINGLY support it.


I thought GenX kids would raise little anti-government kids, but millenials and GenZ seem happy to suck on the teat of the government.



Link Posted: 4/11/2024 2:58:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By deadmau5er:
We as conservatives (mostly), need to accept an absolute fact of life.

If you keep fucking the average young adult from being able to own homes or live a modest life with basic necessities with some money to spare - you're going to ultimately end up with a massive push to marxism/socialism and shouldn't be surprised when retards like AOC end up in office.

This is how every communist revolution starts. The exploitation of the middle class and robbing them of their opportunity to prosper.

We need to fix this immediately. There's a reason why the criminal party keeps growing. They're masters of enslaving the middle and lower class.

Capitalism is the best system we have but pseudo banana republics don't last.
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Agreed, and it can't be fixed gently.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:00:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hesperus:
And of course GD is doing the usual, "no one under the age of 90 ever votes conservative" shtick.
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Well, they won't now...
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:00:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat:
I like how he IMMEDIATELY Focused on the wrong thing: Federal minimum wage.


the problem is in your government, and the relentless, and soul draining inflation.  



And Z is pissed about it, but they OVERWHELMINGLY support it.


I thought GenX kids would raise little anti-government kids, but millenials and GenZ seem happy to suck on the teat of the government.



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Ayup.


Government creates a problem, and the people look to the same government to fix said problem. This snowballs into even more problems.  It’s a viscous cycle and every generation participates.



Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:04:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chase45:
Bought diapers, 1 gallon of milk, some bread and wipes yesterday

130 bucks
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I'm not going to say you're lying, but I would certainly like to see a pic of that receipt.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:07:01 PM EDT
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If you make 30 K, you qualify for SSI food stamps, rent  subsidies, Obamacare
a free phone, low cost internet, and probably 1 million things or not thinking about.  Probably worth about 30 grand per year


If you make 60 grand, you don’t qualify for any of that stuff.

A friend of mine is 60 and his wife retired and he works as a 1099 employee.
Of course they are too young for Social Security so right now they’re paying $1950 for health insurance every month.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:09:27 PM EDT
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How expensive is his phone bill?
How often does he upgrade to the latest iPhone or whatever $1k phone?
How many streaming subs does he maintain?
How many $4 - 6 coffees per week?
How many $15 - $20 restaurant meals per week?
Where does he live?
Can he move to a lower cost of living area / state?

If you cannot live on 40k per year, you need to make changes.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:12:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kevins_garage:

I'm not going to say you're lying, but I would certainly like to see a pic of that receipt.
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Originally Posted By kevins_garage:
Originally Posted By chase45:
Bought diapers, 1 gallon of milk, some bread and wipes yesterday

130 bucks

I'm not going to say you're lying, but I would certainly like to see a pic of that receipt.


Same. In my Area

Case of diapers $25

Gallon milk $4

Two loaves Dave’s bread $12

Case of wipes $12


So about $53   A gallon of milk is actually closer to $3 but I rounded up on everything.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:13:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KILLERB6:
It's pretty easy to guess, though >2 out of 3 zekes and millies are liberals.
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I am not sure that chart actually says what it appears to say at first glance.

As I understand it (because it was before my time), in the years represented all the way to the right, the republican and democratic parties were in many ways reversed.  Were we alive and voting then, you and I would have more likely voted blue.  Not because we would have different views than we do now, but because the democratic party would have actually more aligned with those views.  That back then, voting blue WAS voting for the conservative working man.

With that context that over that frame of time, the parties have flip flopped...that graph really never changes.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:14:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By deadmau5er:
We as conservatives (mostly), need to accept an absolute fact of life.

If you keep fucking the average young adult from being able to own homes or live a modest life with basic necessities with some money to spare - you're going to ultimately end up with a massive push to marxism/socialism and shouldn't be surprised when retards like AOC end up in office.

This is how every communist revolution starts. The exploitation of the middle class and robbing them of their opportunity to prosper.

We need to fix this immediately. There's a reason why the criminal party keeps growing. They're masters of enslaving the middle and lower class.

Capitalism is the best system we have but pseudo banana republics don't last.
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I couldn't agree more. When an economic system fails this badly, people begin looking for solutions outside it for better or worse. It's despicable how much purchasing power has been destroyed in the last thirty years.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:15:47 PM EDT
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I love beating down on complainers like most of GD but he has a real point.  Try thinking about it some.

What is the compensation rate of a job that "pays well"?  It's probably easy to put in terms of minimum wage and age, right?  So a job that pays well when you're twenty might be twice minimum wage or about 30k right now, and a job that pays well when you're 40 might be ten times minimum wage or 150k right now.  That's in 2024.  In 2001, those numbers would be about 20k and 100k.  It might be a little high or low, but that is not relevant to my point.

Now look at housing price inflation.  The assumption is that the monthly cost of a rental will vary in proportion to the cost of buying a similar home fairly across the board, or at least in the middle.  Let's look at a basic starter home that might cost $150k today.  Now use the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics housing price history to see what that house would be worth in a year that a boomer might have been looking to buy their first house, say, 1967.  The same value of house that cost $150,000 now would have cost about $16,800 in 1967.  Inflation sucks, right?  

Now consider those prices as a factor of minimum wage.  Since minimum wage is ostensibly adjusted for inflation, we are factoring inflation out and can make a direct comparison.  Federal hourly minimum wage is 7.25.  That means that the cost of the first home is about twelve thousand times minimum wage.  The cost of the 150k home today is about twenty-five thousand times minimum wage.  

The conclusion is pretty simple and should be clear to anyone with a brain.  After adjusting for inflation, the cost of housing since boomers were starting out and buying their first homes has more than doubled.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:15:58 PM EDT
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When I was 23 my girlfriend (now wife) and I moved in to a 2br rental house with a full basement and a nice little yard in a Navy town of 40k people. It was $700 a month before utilities, and we didn't have to fight anyone to get our name on the lease.

That was nearly 17 years ago though. We're still friends with our old neighbors from back then, they still live next door to our old place, and that shit rents for near $3k now.

Between inflation, lack of good paying jobs, and importing millions of people into the country to take what entry level jobs are left, a lot of gen Z's options are truly fucked.

I do feel for them... but they're also going to have to figure out how to make due. There were still plenty of times that I barely had money for anything else once bills were paid. That's what starting out is like.

Nobody is going to swoop in and save your ass, and whatever political change you think needs to happen isn't going to pay your bills for this month
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:16:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By m1awolf:


Have ten bazzilion foreign invaders isn't helping housing costs either.
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Originally Posted By BillofRights:
And yet everyone spent those Stimmy checks and double unemployment bucks Gleefully.  

People are completely unable to understand Cause and Effect when it’s more than 3 months apart.


Have ten bazzilion foreign invaders isn't helping housing costs either.


Sure, but even Worse than that, all the “free money” we give those immigrants, immediately devalues every dollar in circulation.

- And -, every Illegal worker, dilutes the hourly wages of competing labor.

The Socialists can’t seem to put 2 and 2 together.  

There’s a few in this very thread, brainwashed into thinking it must be the fault of Big Business, or the Banksters, or the Boomas.     I hope they have the guts to step up and defend their ideology.  

They literally cannot understand Cause and Effect or Supply and Demand.    Apparently, it’s beyond their intellectual capacity.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:16:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Yojimbo:


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He said he voted R.  It's in the text in the OP.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:17:12 PM EDT
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My favorite is when the boomers give the "do without" speech then in another thread admit they wouldn't be able to afford their current house if they didn't buy it when the dino's roamed the earth.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:17:23 PM EDT
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Man, talk about being born at a shit time in history.
Their lives are never going to not suck.
America will only get worse, as long as they live.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:18:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chase45:
Bought diapers, 1 gallon of milk, some bread and wipes yesterday

130 bucks
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Cloth diapers might be cheaper.  They're not as convenient, but it will get you closer to that $100,000.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:18:22 PM EDT
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Username?
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:18:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kcobean:
This is a good thing.  More Americans need to be "red pilled" that the government is in fact in the process of burying this country.  While nobody likes a whiner, he has a point.  If you're making $23/hr working 2080 hours a year (40x52), you're clearing probably right at $3k/month after the government, SS, medicare and state take their pieces, if that.  If you're in an area where an apartment is $2k, which is almost anywhere, you gotta figure out how to live on $1k/month if you want to have any work/life balance, or you have to decide to work 60+ hours/week instead of 40.  

The other message here is, you're gonna have to sacrifice to get out of that ~$20/hr hole and make yourself worth more, and you better pick carefully, because the degree mills out there are busy making bachelors degrees worthless.

The only remaining question is, what do these kids take away from all of this.  If it's "communism will save us all!" then screw 'em, they get what they get.  If it's "crony capitalism and government corruption are killing us", then get on the train kid, let's go to pound town and fix the problem.
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If you want out of the $20 hole and don’t want to be an 80 hour a week corporate slave, you need a SKILLED TRADE.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:19:52 PM EDT
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He needs a dose of “You know what ol’ Jack Burton always says…”
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:20:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By odiedodi:
>"A time for choosing"
>He chose mass migration

What did Ronald Reagan mean by this?
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Once more, with feelings, Fuck Reagan.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:23:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Are you blaming me for voting for all of those GOP candidates that always lost their races?
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No.. He’s blaming you for not doing anything to the GOP when they did FUCK ALL after the Contract With America, when they did FUCK ALL during the period they had control of all three branches of government, and when they did FUCK ALL for the last 30-40 years with Domestic Policy and allowed the left to dominate that sphere.


When you don’t speak, others do for you and they don’t always have your best interests in mind. Americans have been Phoning It In with their Government for far too long and have forgotten that We The People ARE the fucking government and these leeches are just people we pick to represent us in matters of government, no people we answer to. It was supposed to be a short term privilege to serve in that capacity, not a life long appointment used to enrich yourself and your chronies.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:23:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By trails-end:




He said he voted R.  It's in the text in the OP.
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Originally Posted By trails-end:
Originally Posted By Yojimbo:


Yup…I wonder who he voted for?




He said he voted R.  It's in the text in the OP.



He got what he voted for

R or D doesn’t matter. They are on the same road.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:23:40 PM EDT
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Also this.  Uniparty to the rescue!
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Very much so, so Vote Harder.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:23:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By czechsix:
LOL, perish the thought.

IT'S THE BOOMERZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lulz

Or maybe he needs four roommates, eat ramen fucking noodles, go to a CC to get that first degree, work two jobs, drive a complete beater for some years, and then after some years finally start getting somewhere.

Oh no, can't do that. "wouldn't be fair". Fucking snowflakes.

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Or maybe deport invaders, stop send industrial jobs overseas, stop making stupid roadblocks or requirements that make it impossible for people to start earning a real living.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:25:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jerrwhy01:
Is this the part where GD will pounce on this guy for daring to complain, not pulling himself up by his bootstraps, or getting a better paying job? Is this also the part where GD will have a thread bitching, moaning, and pissing about inflation and how everything is so expensive but refuses to pull themselves up by their bootstraps or get a better paying job?
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yes
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:27:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jerrwhy01:
Is this the part where GD will pounce on this guy for daring to complain, not pulling himself up by his bootstraps, or getting a better paying job? Is this also the part where GD will have a thread bitching, moaning, and pissing about inflation and how everything is so expensive but refuses to pull themselves up by their bootstraps or get a better paying job?
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lol yep
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:28:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Third_Rail:


Sounds like a culture committing suicide to me.
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No it’s murder made to look like suicide.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:29:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By amannamedjed:
When I was 21, I sold my car because I couldn't afford insurance and to keep it running, and commuted on a bicycle.  I shared a two bedroom apartment with two other guys.  Ate a lot of rice and beans and cheap burritos.  Had no cable.  Obviously no internet since it had not been invented yet.  No iPhones, no expensive TV, stereo, or anything else.

I am tired of hearing how boomers had it so easy and that we voted for it.  I always voted for small government.  It was the democrats that voted for entitlements and massive government pensions.  The unions that drove up the cost of living with wages higher than most professionals.

I couldn't afford to put a down payment on our first small house until the wife and I had been married for a year... with two professional career incomes.  It is unrealistic to think a single guy working an entry level job should be able to afford the lifestyle of those who put in years of effort and living within their budget.
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And what year was that?  @amannamedjed
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:35:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By runcible:
Man, talk about being born at a shit time in history.
Their lives are never going to not suck.
America will only get worse, as long as they live.
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Fuck, that’s been true almost all my life, or a least the part post 2001.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:37:05 PM EDT
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Basically, in this thread,

A boomer will rant the guy needs to vote Republican and work overtime.
Even if the guy already does.
And the Ranter will leave out they voted Democrat 87% of the time in their lives at the behest of their union.

Someone else will talk about roommates, coupons, etc. and how they afforded rent 20 or 40 years ago.
It will completely be unable for them to accept the apartment they paid 600 bucks a month for in today’s dollars is now an 1800 dollar a month apartment.

Another boomer will talk about how whiny punks like this kid with no sense of responsibility or duty have ruined this country.  In another thread they will brag of smoking weed, dropping acid, and moving from relative to relative, town to town, doing odd jobs for cash under the table riding out a draft notice ever getting to them.

Another boomer will say this loser needs to make more than minimum wage.  Even if he does.
They will then talk about how they started at three times minimum wage in their first job and you never heard them whine.
And will refuse to accept that in 1968 their 3x minimum wage in 1968 was like 43 bucks an hour in today’s dollars.  Not 21.

Another boomer or two will chime in how they started their own business, built their own house, managed their bills, etc. and try to give the impression they are some big entrepreneur and master builder.  The reality is they were a single truck /single worker tradesman dodging vehicle insurance, leaving his family with no medical insurance until aging into MC,  that were essentially handed a lot at cost that wouldn’t perc, with septic and water problems in a dinky crap hole that won’t pass code/can’t be sold.

Despite all objective data regarding land costs, home costs, education costs, transportation costs, medical costs, insurance costs, household income, pension availability, merit based scholarships, home sizes, etc. over the past 50-60 years 87% of posters will dogpile on the guy regarding how much harder and more expensive stuff was then, everyone they know started in an 870 home, never had a job with medical benefits or a pension, etc.

Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:39:53 PM EDT
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If you want out of the $20 hole and don’t want to be an 80 hour a week corporate slave, you need a SKILLED TRADE.
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absolutely , my nephew took trade classes thru high school, started working right out of school
hard work at a yard had him getting an apprentice gig with an electrical contractor, now at 21 he rents his own
house, has a harley, boat, newish truck, last year he made over 90 grand with overtime.
hard work is paying off already
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:40:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ramairthree:
Basically, in this thread,

A boomer will rant the guy needs to vote Republican and work overtime.
Even if the guy already does.
And the Ranter will leave out they voted Democrat 87% of the time in their lives at the behest of their union.

Someone else will talk about roommates, coupons, etc. and how they afforded rent 20 or 40 years ago.
It will completely be unable for them to accept the apartment they paid 600 bucks a month for in today’s dollars is now an 1800 dollar a month apartment.

Another boomer will talk about how whiny punks like this kid with no sense of responsibility or duty have ruined this country.  In another thread they will brag of smoking weed, dropping acid, and moving from relative to relative, town to town, doing odd jobs for cash under the table riding out a draft notice ever getting to them.

Another boomer will say this loser needs to make more than minimum wage.  Even if he does.
They will then talk about how they started at three times minimum wage in their first job and you never heard them whine.
And will refuse to accept that in 1968 their 3x minimum wage in 1968 was like 43 bucks an hour in today’s dollars.  Not 21.

Another boomer or two will chime in how they started their own business, built their own house, managed their bills, etc. and try to give the impression they are some big entrepreneur and master builder.  The reality is they were a single truck /single worker tradesman dodging vehicle insurance, leaving his family with no medical insurance until aging into MC,  that were essentially handed a lot at cost that wouldn’t perc, with septic and water problems in a dinky crap hole that won’t pass code/can’t be sold.

Despite all objective data regarding land costs, home costs, education costs, transportation costs, medical costs, insurance costs, household income, pension availability, merit based scholarships, home sizes, etc. over the past 50-60 years 87% of posters will dogpile on the guy regarding how much harder and more expensive stuff was then, everyone they know started in an 870 home, never had a job with medical benefits or a pension, etc.

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Goddamn
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:42:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NotJackMiller:

And what year was that?  @amannamedjed
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Originally Posted By amannamedjed:
When I was 21, I sold my car because I couldn't afford insurance and to keep it running, and commuted on a bicycle.  I shared a two bedroom apartment with two other guys.  Ate a lot of rice and beans and cheap burritos.  Had no cable.  Obviously no internet since it had not been invented yet.  No iPhones, no expensive TV, stereo, or anything else.

I am tired of hearing how boomers had it so easy and that we voted for it.  I always voted for small government.  It was the democrats that voted for entitlements and massive government pensions.  The unions that drove up the cost of living with wages higher than most professionals.

I couldn't afford to put a down payment on our first small house until the wife and I had been married for a year... with two professional career incomes.  It is unrealistic to think a single guy working an entry level job should be able to afford the lifestyle of those who put in years of effort and living within their budget.

And what year was that?  @amannamedjed

Around 1979 give or take.  What of it?  I was young and struggled then.  Young people struggle now for the same reasons.  There are plenty of young people now who have made good financial decisions, built careers, and are buying homes.  I have some nephew and nieces who are living the life through smart thinking and hard work.  It is possible even now.  And there are plenty of old people from my generation who never made good decisions and worked dead end jobs.  And they are paying the price now by living in poverty.

The point of my post was that today's young people think we had it easy.  We didn't.  We struggled just like our parents did, our kids did, and our grand-kids are doing.  The only difference is that today's young people think they have it much harder than anyone else.  I disagree.  It has been hard for everyone, some more, some less depending on their circumstances, their smarts, and their drive to succeed.  You can always find anecdotal evidence that this person or that had it easier or harder.  But on average, not much has changed.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:44:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By grumpalicious:
How expensive is his phone bill?
How often does he upgrade to the latest iPhone or whatever $1k phone?
How many streaming subs does he maintain?
How many $4 - 6 coffees per week?
How many $15 - $20 restaurant meals per week?
Where does he live?
Can he move to a lower cost of living area / state?

If you cannot live on 40k per year, you need to make changes.
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Being self-sufficient and not depending on others for labor saves a shit ton of money.  Especially vehicle maintenance.  I have no idea how people can pay so much for everything.  Like, brakes.
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Originally Posted By TFL:


absolutely , my nephew took trade classes thru high school, started working right out of school
hard work at a yard had him getting an apprentice gig with an electrical contractor, now at 21 he rents his own
house, has a harley, boat
, newish truck, last year he made over 90 grand with overtime.
hard work is paying off already
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Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:


If you want out of the $20 hole and don’t want to be an 80 hour a week corporate slave, you need a SKILLED TRADE.


absolutely , my nephew took trade classes thru high school, started working right out of school
hard work at a yard had him getting an apprentice gig with an electrical contractor, now at 21 he rents his own
house, has a harley, boat
, newish truck, last year he made over 90 grand with overtime.
hard work is paying off already




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Switching to a $25/mo phone plan (unlimited 3rd tier data) saves us some coin each month.  Hell, the car wash plan is more expensive than that.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:48:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Agilt:
Originally Posted By runcible:
Man, talk about being born at a shit time in history.
Their lives are never going to not suck.
America will only get worse, as long as they live.
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Fuck, that’s been true almost all my life, or a least the part post 2001.
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It's been downhill, and picking up speed, since 1965.  
No one alive right now will ever see America better. No. One.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:48:12 PM EDT
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Someone in another thread accused Chisum of being a childless boomer who is caustically indifferent to the suffering of younger Americans, which is something he took offense to.  However, his post seems to typify this perceived sentiment, which is why I'm wondering if it's intended to be satirical.
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Originally Posted By chase45:
Originally Posted By brownbomber:


Is this satire?  I honestly can't tell.


Lol

We actually did that for a good while

IT WAS FUCKING AWFUL. DO NOT RECOMMEND

Honestly about evens out anyways. The reusable ones dont last very long. Handful of times washed and they are ready to be tossed

Throw in having to literally clean shit off of them the disposables are not that much more expensive. In the end everything is just pants on head retarded expensive


Someone in another thread accused Chisum of being a childless boomer who is caustically indifferent to the suffering of younger Americans, which is something he took offense to.  However, his post seems to typify this perceived sentiment, which is why I'm wondering if it's intended to be satirical.


Willful ignorance is a shorter, likely more accurate reason.  Doubt it's satire, though with Poe, who can say?

It sucks that the Silicon Valley meme I saw leaving college---5+ new hired engineers renting a house, because it was the only way to afford a place to live there as a newly minted STEM professional---is now supposed to be the norm everywhere, and not just the Bay Area.

An aside, you can tell young people that they'll be worse off for embracing a socialist solution, and you might even be right.  If they're struggling hard enough now to make ends meet, they aren't going to care, so long as they get to see earlier, more successful generations suffer alongside them too.  Heads on sticks, basically.

Oh, and citing Saint Reagan as a beacon of responsible fiscal governance is hilarious.  As David Stockman could have told you.  The 80s were when we figured out we could put debt on the .Gov credit card and not worry about it, with the previous post WW2 trend of falling federal debt/GDP being dramatically reversed.  But we all at the time got rich, inflation fell, and it's not like the Reagan generation was ever at risk of having to pay that back, right?

@Foxtrot08, the Oil Guy, had a great point in one of these recent threads that the American economy has been fantastic at growing money, these last 40 years, but not so much at growing value.

Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:49:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ramairthree:
Basically, in this thread,

A boomer will rant the guy needs to vote Republican and work overtime.
Even if the guy already does.
And the Ranter will leave out they voted Democrat 87% of the time in their lives at the behest of their union.

Someone else will talk about roommates, coupons, etc. and how they afforded rent 20 or 40 years ago.
It will completely be unable for them to accept the apartment they paid 600 bucks a month for in today’s dollars is now an 1800 dollar a month apartment.

Another boomer will talk about how whiny punks like this kid with no sense of responsibility or duty have ruined this country.  In another thread they will brag of smoking weed, dropping acid, and moving from relative to relative, town to town, doing odd jobs for cash under the table riding out a draft notice ever getting to them.

Another boomer will say this loser needs to make more than minimum wage.  Even if he does.
They will then talk about how they started at three times minimum wage in their first job and you never heard them whine.
And will refuse to accept that in 1968 their 3x minimum wage in 1968 was like 43 bucks an hour in today’s dollars.  Not 21.

Another boomer or two will chime in how they started their own business, built their own house, managed their bills, etc. and try to give the impression they are some big entrepreneur and master builder.  The reality is they were a single truck /single worker tradesman dodging vehicle insurance, leaving his family with no medical insurance until aging into MC,  that were essentially handed a lot at cost that wouldn’t perc, with septic and water problems in a dinky crap hole that won’t pass code/can’t be sold.

Despite all objective data regarding land costs, home costs, education costs, transportation costs, medical costs, insurance costs, household income, pension availability, merit based scholarships, home sizes, etc. over the past 50-60 years 87% of posters will dogpile on the guy regarding how much harder and more expensive stuff was then, everyone they know started in an 870 home, never had a job with medical benefits or a pension, etc.

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Buy washable, reusable diapers? Whatever happened with washcloths? Buy once and use them for the next five kids. Stop being suckered by the disposable universe.
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We do washable diapers.

No idea why everyone thinks they are SOOO bad.

We don't even clean the poop off. We have a nice washer that has a 2x rinse cycle, and does the cleaning for us.

Like, it could not be an easier.

Put dirty diaper in mesh bag/can that's sealed, no smell, EVER.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:52:54 PM EDT
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One Bedroom apartment = $1800/00  Two bedroom apartment = $2200.00.

So get a roommate and it becomes $1100.00 each.  Live two to a room dorm style and it become $550.00 each.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:55:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By deadmau5er:
We as conservatives (mostly), need to accept an absolute fact of life.

If you keep fucking the average young adult from being able to own homes or live a modest life with basic necessities with some money to spare - you're going to ultimately end up with a massive push to marxism/socialism and shouldn't be surprised when retards like AOC end up in office.

This is how every communist revolution starts. The exploitation of the middle class and robbing them of their opportunity to prosper.

We need to fix this immediately. There's a reason why the criminal party keeps growing. They're masters of enslaving the middle and lower class.

Capitalism is the best system we have but pseudo banana republics don't last.
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Apparently it is easier to make fun of them, call them lazy, refuse to accept that things could be different or harder, make jokes about avocado toast, etc.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:55:40 PM EDT
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I do not think that I could have achieved what I did as a young man under today's current economic conditions.

I worked incredibly hard and barely put myself through university, graduating back in 2001.   I can't imagine what a young man in a similar position would have to do today to get through university.  

What can I say?  It's the fall of the Republic my young friends.  Some generation had to be the last ones born into the Republic and here you are.   Where the Boomers were able to look forward to beautful days at their lake house or on the golf course in silly plaid print pants your future will resemble something like Mad Max, so pick out your favorite pair of leather pants and hockey mask I guess.  

Good luck little Zoomers and Alphas, you're going to need it.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 3:56:14 PM EDT
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Fuck this Nic guy.

Douche canoe could be out digging some ditches, but goes on the Tic Tok to cry about...something. I don't even know what he wants.

Cry baby should go live in N. Korea for a year, then make a new Tic Toks.
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