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KY, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:16:52 PM EDT
Lately there’s been numerous changes to opinions at the ATF. Does anyone know if any of them changed being able to sell your uppers and shipping uppers to individuals in states that don’t have bans?
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:27:31 PM EDT
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FTATF
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:28:52 PM EDT
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It's not a firearm. At least as far as I know.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:42:46 PM EDT
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Can you still get on PSA's website and have one shipped to your door? There's your answer.
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KY, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:42:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wagonwheel1: It's not a firearm. At least as far as I know. I didn’t believe that anything had changed that would now make it a firearm. I wasn’t sure if anything had changed regarding shipping them either. Figured I would ask someone who may be more informed. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:48:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NOMAAM: Can you still get on PSA's website and have one shipped to your door? There's your answer. 
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NM, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:35:43 PM EDT
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If it’s legal in my state, then it’s legal. I mean, that’s how I treat it. To each their own but if you buy something from me that is not federally illegal to ship, off it goes.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:12:40 PM EDT
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If it doesn't have a serial number, it's not a firearm.
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USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:14:15 PM EDT
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Who cares anymore
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:23:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wagonwheel1: It's not a firearm. At least as far as I know. If you read the legal definition of a firearm it describes an upper a lot better than a lower. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:25:53 PM EDT
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Fuck the feds, do what makes you happy
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:26:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NOMAAM: Can you still get on PSA's website and have one shipped to your door? There's your answer. Not if you live in WA state, nobody ships anything to this commie state. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:02:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Camaroman: Lately there’s been numerous changes to opinions at the ATF. Does anyone know if any of them changed being able to sell your uppers and shipping uppers to individuals in states that don’t have bans? |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:07:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HDLS: what states have a ban on uppers? WA won't let you buy anything that can be used on a semiautomatic firearm. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:23:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Klaatu_barada_nikto: WA won't let you buy anything that can be used on a semiautomatic firearm. I am truly sorry to hear that brother. I hope you’re well stocked enough to ride that out. “Move to a free state” they say, but the problem is that this bullshit is coming to free states if we don’t get folks into office who understand what the constitution means. I’m an old man yelling at clouds and preaching to the choir. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:29:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Camaroman: I didn't believe that anything had changed that would now make it a firearm. I wasn't sure if anything had changed regarding shipping them either. Figured I would ask someone who may be more informed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Camaroman: Originally Posted By wagonwheel1: It's not a firearm. At least as far as I know. I didn't believe that anything had changed that would now make it a firearm. I wasn't sure if anything had changed regarding shipping them either. Figured I would ask someone who may be more informed. 
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ID, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:32:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Camaroman: Lately there’s been numerous changes to opinions at the ATF. Does anyone know if any of them changed being able to sell your uppers and shipping uppers to individuals in states that don’t have bans? Please point to the exact law that prevents you from selling and shipping an upper. You can't. . |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:15:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IdahoPCCinc: Please point to the exact law that prevents you from selling and shipping an upper. You can't. . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IdahoPCCinc: Originally Posted By Camaroman: Lately there’s been numerous changes to opinions at the ATF. Does anyone know if any of them changed being able to sell your uppers and shipping uppers to individuals in states that don’t have bans? Please point to the exact law that prevents you from selling and shipping an upper. You can't. . OP didn't claim there was such a law....he's asking IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY CHANGE TO ATF OPINIONS in regards to uppers. Your reading comprehension is as bad as OP's Google skills. 
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:16:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IdahoPCCinc: Please point to the exact law that prevents you from selling and shipping an upper. You can't. . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IdahoPCCinc: Originally Posted By Camaroman: Lately there’s been numerous changes to opinions at the ATF. Does anyone know if any of them changed being able to sell your uppers and shipping uppers to individuals in states that don’t have bans? Please point to the exact law that prevents you from selling and shipping an upper. You can't. . OP didn't claim there was such a law....he's asking IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY CHANGE TO ATF OPINIONS in regards to uppers. Your reading comprehension is equal to OP's Google skills.
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SC, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:20:18 AM EDT
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Regarding the new law.
For ARs: 1) Sell lower for less than you paid for the gun. Thus, you are not earning a 'profit'. 2) Separate and sell upper to match said lower for whatever you want. Uppers are not firearms, and not covered up the regulation. |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:37:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: IdahoPCCinc]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DogtownTom: OP didn't claim there was such a law....he's asking IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY CHANGE TO ATF OPINIONS in regards to uppers. Your reading comprehension is equal to OP's Google skills. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DogtownTom: Originally Posted By IdahoPCCinc: Originally Posted By Camaroman: Lately there’s been numerous changes to opinions at the ATF. Does anyone know if any of them changed being able to sell your uppers and shipping uppers to individuals in states that don’t have bans? Please point to the exact law that prevents you from selling and shipping an upper. You can't. . OP didn't claim there was such a law....he's asking IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY CHANGE TO ATF OPINIONS in regards to uppers. Your reading comprehension is equal to OP's Google skills. Your ability to not comprehend why I said "law" instead of "opinion" is why you shouldn't post on forums. Opinions don't mean shit. Laws do. There is no fed law preventing the sale of an upper. Hence the question put forth by the OP is ludicrous. That was the point I made. Having to explain that to you, as well as your inability to post without duping yourself shows everyone your lack of attention to detail and human performance issues. . |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 10:24:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scott_S: I am truly sorry to hear that brother. I hope you’re well stocked enough to ride that out. “Move to a free state” they say, but the problem is that this bullshit is coming to free states if we don’t get folks into office who understand what the constitution means. I’m an old man yelling at clouds and preaching to the choir. As long as you continue to preach the truth, that's what counts. signed, Choir Member |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:04:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DogtownTom]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IdahoPCCinc: Your ability to not comprehend why I said "law" instead of "opinion" is why you shouldn't post on forums. Opinions don't mean shit. Laws do. There is no fed law preventing the sale of an upper. Hence the question put forth by the OP is ludicrous. That was the point I made. Having to explain that to you, as well as your inability to post without duping yourself shows everyone your lack of attention to detail and human performance issues. .  Attached FileDo a bit of reading at atf.gov and you'll discover that they most certainly do issue Rulings and Determination Letters based on their opinion. Those Rulings carry the weight of law. |
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