It must be really fast!

I have a 2018 JLU Sport S.  It has the 3.6L and 130k miles.  Only warranty work done on it was the rear window defroster wire popped off.

My 95 YJ has over 240,000mi. All stock, original motor although I have rebuilt/regeared the rear axle to 4:10 and still need to do the front axle. My daughter drives it daily so yeah it’s been reliable. Bought it used 15 years ago from the original owner, brakes, battery, u joints, tires, and usual tuneup stuff. Oh the bolts on a motor mount broke and the fuel over pressure valve went bad 2 years ago

My 2020 Rubicon has 42,000mi with the only thing being a broker sunvisor hinge.  

My niece is on her third wrangler with the first two having issues but I have no idea how she drives or takes care of the ones she has had.

While it would probably take 2 to make it fast - I don't think a fast Jeep would be a fun thing - It would need a "This Side Up" sticker for sure.


I needed a new vehicle in 2002, and was interested in the LJ then - but the demand was such I could not wait to find one (and did not want to pay a premium).  Instead I got a POC Chevy which I sold in 2 years while it was still in warranty - I did not want to own it out of warranty, it had been in the shop too much already.  Lost way too much money on that one.  So 20+ years latter I finally got the LJ.  It's fun, and I do drive it almost daily - but honestly, I am damn glad I did not get it in 2002 because it would have been my only vehicle then.  I do too many trips, it is not a great long range vehicle.  It gets less range on a tank than a budget EV.  My other 2 primary vehicles can do most of my trips on 2 tanks (honestly they almost do it on 1 tank, maybe with a tailwind and without the AC) - the LJ takes 4-5.

You put 90k miles in that thing in four years?  Ironback.

I guess different strokes for different folks, but I never understand people who complain about JKs and JLs being uncomfortable.

No, not even before they switched to the minivan engine.

My wife’s 2014 needed both cylinder heads replaced.

It also ate the camshaft.

It was NOT cheap, thank God we bought an aftermarket warranty.

16 jkur with 130,000 on the clock. I drive into extremely remote and harsh environments without any concern whether I’ll be stranded or not.

2005 TJ 74k miles, not a lot for the years.

Still, the  4.0 is legendary for durability.  

J-E-E-P is not reliability but accessories.

The 3.8 is not sexy, but not unreliable either.  Lift any Jeep cheaply and get the geometry wrong and you're asking for problems.

I've only owned the older 4.0L YJ's and TJ's. All with manual transmission. I don't really care for JK or JL's. The last Jeep I had was a 95 YJ, stock drivetrain except for a re-gear and locker. 3" lift that was actually done correctly, and aftermarket bumpers and winch. I finally sold it with 270k on it. Only things I actually needed to ever do to it were brake lines (it did get kinda rusty ), replaced the ignition coil, and went ahead and replaced the cap, rotor, wires and plugs along with it. Rear main seal was starting to leak a bit, about a quart per oil change. Other than those minor things, I drove it daily for years without issue, with light to moderate off road use on occasion.  
Both TJ's I owned ended up needing a fuel pump at some point.

2012 JK 4 door here:

Cam sensor
Crank sensor
Blend door actuator
Oil Cooler / Intake Gaskets
Transmission lines (that one was probably the wife wheeling)

I am sure that I am forgetting some things over 12 years other than normal stuff like brakes and other expendables

Mine has been 100% reliable AND I use it like a jeep should be used.  About 40k on the odo.

It had two recalls early on - a reflash of the ECU (I didn't notice a thing before or after) and a front bumper air bag sensor.

My '12 had one head replaced (left) and probably needed it a second time when I traded it in. Jeep gave a
100K/10 year warranty extension on the right head.

My neighbor's '14 had so many camshaft issues Jeep ended up replacing his engine. His wife has a '15 and it's been
trouble-free. A lot of the early model issues affected 2012-2013, but I hear way less problems on JKUs from
2015+ than I do 2012-14.

Jeeps are great for what they were built for.   That is not driving 40,000 miles a year on the highway or daily commuting.

Fucking really?

Camry and Accord just entered the ring, prepare to fight!




@vaughn4380

Do you say the same thing about pickups, full size SUVs, sports cars, etc?

I've beat the absolute piss out of my JK with no issues. Thing is indestructible. I hear a lot about poor reliability but that's not been my experience. I've done shit to that car the CIA wouldn't put a terrorist through.

This.
And the ones that beat the crap out of them on rocks and through mud and then wonder why sensors dont work and tie rod ends snap.

After 335k miles I just replaced the 4.0 in my 96XJ.

My '14 JK M6 with almost 90k miles

Mostly highway driving and averages 20-24 mpg.

Oil cooler
Tires
Brake Light Bulbs
Radio
Battery (lasted 9 years)
Windshield Wipers (once a year it seems like - keep a set in the back)

Wife's '13 JK Auto with 58k miles

Mostly in town driving and averages 16-18 mpg.

Oil cooler (oil pressure sensor went bad - replace everything while in there)
Brake Light Bulbs
Battery (lasted 8 years)
Windshield Wipers (every other year it seems like - keep a set in the back)
Thermostat Housing
TPMS Sensor

Both are completely stock.  Oil changes every 5k miles and rotate/balance tires, including the spare.

my 79 cj7 was a pos but i also beat the living hell out of it.

my JK was fine, just underpowered...

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my JL 392 XR has been great and its the best jeep ever made imo

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Similar could be said, but if you'd ever traveled loaded heavy onthe interstates in a lifted soft top any length of time, you'd understand his point.......it sucks

Had a 98 wrangler for 10 years and 100,000 miles. It was my favorite vehicle ever. So much fun with the top and doors off. However it was a POS. In the shop for all kinds of issues including factory paint that blistered and peeled within 2 years. The only car I’ve ever owned that ran out of gas multiple times. Instrument cluster would randomly fail and I’d have no idea what the gas gauge actually read. I’d really love another one, but I’ll stick to my 4Runner for reliability.

I've owned
2003 tj rubicon
2011 4 door
2021 gladiator

No issues.

I’d run because it’s the lowest model they make. If you’re going to chop into it for off roading and replace the transfer case, suspension, wheels and tires just pass on this one.

Well I had the hard top on at the time, but I’ve done 900 miles a day in a slightly lifted, loaded up JKU with bigger tires at speeds up to 80-90mph and felt totally comfortable. I’ve done half that pulling a small trailer, too, albeit I kept the speed down to 70 on that trip. And done more 300 mile days than I can remember. The Jeep handled and rode just fine. Honestly, my only complaint if that you can feel it running out of power past 80 and the fuel economy really nosedives at that point. But otherwise, the experiences have been fine. We enjoyed the drives and weren’t any more worn afterwards out than similar trips in our other vehicles.

I have only driven it a couple of hundred miles with either the soft top and soft doors on or no top or doors at all. Just turn the radio up a little or a lot more.

One of my bucket list goals is a cross country trip to dip this Jeep’s tires in the Atlantic ocean, too.

These 4 door Jeeps are way more comfortable and versatile than most of the older Jeeps. They can work just fine as a daily driver and occasional trip taker. They aren’t any worse than a pickup, especially a 3/4-1 ton, just about any SUV, a sports car with a performance suspension, etc. I guess there are always mini-vans and Camry’s for the more sensitive backs and butts.

Like I said in another reply, I just don’t understand people who complain about the driving characteristics of the JKs and JLs. Like, why did they buy it, then? They didn’t spend any appreciable time making a buying decision and notice any of those characteristics on the test drives?

Why would you pay a premium for a Rubicon just to do most of the same thing?

Soft tops at highway speeds don't suck if you're already mostly deaf.

The looks I get commuting in a soft top jeep when the temp stay below zero are awesome. You can see the vapor lock and BSOD on other driver's faces.