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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:40:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By binthere: To be fair, they supposedly have the original HK tooling they bought from Germany to build MP5’s. They acquired licensing from HK to produce MP5s, G3s, and HK33s. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:42:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:43:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4-AK: I have not seen this event mentioned anywhere. You also don't hear, Israel, has around 1,300,000 Russian speaking people, or 15% of the Israeli population. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:43:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnoGoRider: If it does kick off both the United States and Iran are going to have a hell of a time, getting to most of Iran's military assets that are deep underground and very rugged train mountains. This isn't going to be no Afghanistan or Iraq it's going to be 50 times tougher and more complicated. I believe Iran has been preparing for this for many, many years. Israel will be fighting a war on three or four fronts which, I think will be unsubstainable for them and they're tiny strip of land. GBU72 says hold my beer and if that doesn't work call in the MOP. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:44:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkStar:
Part of me hopes they wait until April 18th. Just so it’s easy to remember the dates the US Navy destroyed Irans Navy. Maybe call it Operation Kosher Mantis or something. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:47:18 PM EDT
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When and if it pops off, I bet Iran is going to strike as many oil wells as they can in the area to drive oil, gas and the cost of goods up.
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:47:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkStar:
ANALYSIS: The first wave of missile attacks from #Iran won’t be the “big one.” It will be designed to cause #Israel to deplete its supply of anti-air defense munitions, such as Patriot missile battery missiles. Those are now fully depleted in Ukraine, and the U.S. cannot manufacture any real quantity of Patriot missiles because, of course, the U.S. industrial base continues to collapse. Iran’s first wave of attacks, therefore, is just “Patriot missile bait” or “Iron Dome bait,” and Israel will very rapidly go through its stockpiles of anti-air defense munitions. Once depleted, and with the U.S. incapable of manufacturing any real quantity, Israel will be a wide open target zone for #Hezbollah strikes, not just Iran. “Wave 2” of this attack will be the real thrust, and it will only commence after Israel shows signs of running out of anti-air ammo. That could take a considerable amount of time. Probably weeks, maybe a few months. In addition, the claimed effectiveness of Patriot defense systems is little more than western propaganda. They will be fortunate to halt 20% of incoming missiles. And yet to do that, Patriot missile batteries have to light up their own active radar systems, effectively broadcasting their locations, making them high priority targets for the higher payload missiles of which Iran and Hezbollah have very large numbers. Watch and learn: You are about to see, over the coming weeks, that Israel’s entire Iron Dome air defense system will be depleted, dismantled and destroyed. From there, Iran’s obvious targets will be Israel’s infrastructure: Power grid systems, ports, bridges, etc. Unless this escalation is somehow stopped, the Israeli people are about to find themselves living in an active war zone, much like what Eastern (former) Ukraine has experienced since Feb of 2022. The arrogance and incompetence of western military forces has left them so detached from reality that they still think they are battling Iran from the 1980s. They have no idea what Iran (and Hezbollah) have developed since then. They are about to F around and find out. Completely ignores Israel’s ability to project force. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:48:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mitsudriver: Part of me hopes they wait until April 18th. Just so it’s easy to remember the dates the US Navy destroyed Irans Navy. Maybe call it Operation Kosher Mantis or something. Operation Hebrew National would make me buy a t shirt |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:49:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveM4K: GBU72 says hold my beer and if that doesn't work call in the MOP. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveM4K: Originally Posted By SnoGoRider: If it does kick off both the United States and Iran are going to have a hell of a time, getting to most of Iran's military assets that are deep underground and very rugged train mountains. This isn't going to be no Afghanistan or Iraq it's going to be 50 times tougher and more complicated. I believe Iran has been preparing for this for many, many years. Israel will be fighting a war on three or four fronts which, I think will be unsubstainable for them and they're tiny strip of land. GBU72 says hold my beer and if that doesn't work call in the MOP. Some of their shit is almost a mile or more underground. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:51:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midcap: The absolute worst thing ever to happen in that Region was to allow Constantinople to fall 
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:51:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kingstrider: But wait didn't the potato said "don't"? I thought he said "donut". I'm getting old I guess! |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:53:50 PM EDT
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Iran is like a school yard bully with a glass jaw. Consistent with its long standing policy; Israel will dish out more than it takes.
Sow the wind - reap the whirlwind. 
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:54:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnoGoRider: Some of their shit is almost a mile or more underground. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnoGoRider: Originally Posted By DaveM4K: Originally Posted By SnoGoRider: If it does kick off both the United States and Iran are going to have a hell of a time, getting to most of Iran's military assets that are deep underground and very rugged train mountains. This isn't going to be no Afghanistan or Iraq it's going to be 50 times tougher and more complicated. I believe Iran has been preparing for this for many, many years. Israel will be fighting a war on three or four fronts which, I think will be unsubstainable for them and they're tiny strip of land. GBU72 says hold my beer and if that doesn't work call in the MOP. Some of their shit is almost a mile or more underground. The West, broadly speaking, has scores of military tech that has yet to be unleashed on our adversaries. We have been playing with kid gloves for decades. If Iran wants this dick, they are going to get it long and hard. The only question is how much of our capabilities we are going to show to adversaries that aren’t third-rate goat herders that can’t manage to centrifuge a dimebag of weapons grade uranium given decades and pallets of cash. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:54:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnoGoRider: Some of their shit is almost a mile or more underground. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnoGoRider: Originally Posted By DaveM4K: Originally Posted By SnoGoRider: If it does kick off both the United States and Iran are going to have a hell of a time, getting to most of Iran's military assets that are deep underground and very rugged train mountains. This isn't going to be no Afghanistan or Iraq it's going to be 50 times tougher and more complicated. I believe Iran has been preparing for this for many, many years. Israel will be fighting a war on three or four fronts which, I think will be unsubstainable for them and they're tiny strip of land. GBU72 says hold my beer and if that doesn't work call in the MOP. Some of their shit is almost a mile or more underground. Being that deep underground can be a liability. Especially if Israel knows where the entrances and air handlers are. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:56:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnoGoRider: When and if it pops off, I bet Iran is going to strike as many oil wells as they can in the area to drive oil, gas and the cost of goods up. That's an interesting thought. That would also help Russia, one of Iran's few allies. They could achieve the same thing though by halting traffic of tankers in the Persian Gulf. Of course, that would piss off most of the world, creating new enemies that Iran doesn't need. Perhaps if they were desperate that might seem like an acceptable decision to make. That would only be temporary of course. It would invite dozens of strategic bombers to launch a heavy bombing campaign against Iran. In any case, though, Iran loses. It's just a matter of how much everyone else loses as well. I bet the intelligence agencies are burning the midnight oil tonight watching Iran like a hawk. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:59:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnoGoRider: You also don't hear, Israel, has around 1,300,000 Russian speaking people, or 15% of the Israeli population. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnoGoRider: Originally Posted By M4-AK: I have not seen this event mentioned anywhere. You also don't hear, Israel, has around 1,300,000 Russian speaking people, or 15% of the Israeli population. Who dont care for Russia due to the anti semitism they experienced there |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:59:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PanzerOfDoom: Or if your ability to close it is……ineffective, smoking, destroyed ect. Are you suggesting the US should do that, Israel should do that, or both, in a joint action? Attacking a NATO member, even one which gets, likely, a decent amount of hate for good reasons, and especially now, with the war in Eastern Europe going on, seems crazy to me. If Israel did it by itself, maybe. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:02:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By binthere: To be fair, they supposedly have the original HK tooling they bought from Germany to build MP5’s. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By binthere: Originally Posted By jmt1271: Can't speak the the Benellis but their MP5 clone is top notch. That said, Fuck them. To be fair, they supposedly have the original HK tooling they bought from Germany to build MP5’s. Folding and welding steel trash cans isn't dependent on Teutonic magic. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:02:57 PM EDT
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And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:05:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colklink: Carried out a sustained air campaign, attacking various targets in Iran? No, wasn't aware of that. Doesn’t need to be sustained and while not Iran they have conducted deep strike missions before. But there’s this  Attached FileAnd this  Attached FileSure, sustained deep strikes are another thing but I wouldn’t underestimate them. It’s not like they didn’t see this shot coming for years! |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:05:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TontoGoldstein: Opportunity to decapitate the Iranian leadership. Exactly so - and maybe to take out their nuclear projects. This could be the time to switch on the Iranian resistance too. If this happened we would wake up to a new world order. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:05:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnoGoRider: Some of their shit is almost a mile or more underground. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnoGoRider: Originally Posted By DaveM4K: Originally Posted By SnoGoRider: If it does kick off both the United States and Iran are going to have a hell of a time, getting to most of Iran's military assets that are deep underground and very rugged train mountains. This isn't going to be no Afghanistan or Iraq it's going to be 50 times tougher and more complicated. I believe Iran has been preparing for this for many, many years. Israel will be fighting a war on three or four fronts which, I think will be unsubstainable for them and they're tiny strip of land. GBU72 says hold my beer and if that doesn't work call in the MOP. Some of their shit is almost a mile or more underground. I'm not sure you understand. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:06:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnoGoRider: Some of their shit is almost a mile or more underground. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnoGoRider: Originally Posted By DaveM4K: Originally Posted By SnoGoRider: If it does kick off both the United States and Iran are going to have a hell of a time, getting to most of Iran's military assets that are deep underground and very rugged train mountains. This isn't going to be no Afghanistan or Iraq it's going to be 50 times tougher and more complicated. I believe Iran has been preparing for this for many, many years. Israel will be fighting a war on three or four fronts which, I think will be unsubstainable for them and they're tiny strip of land. GBU72 says hold my beer and if that doesn't work call in the MOP. Some of their shit is almost a mile or more underground. A bunker without an exit is called a tomb  Largest Underground Nuclear Testing Project Cannikin 5 Megatons |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:06:17 PM EDT
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..I don't think Iran will really do all that much. Maybe they will utilize their proxies in a few areas?
Sorta thinking, that now, would be the prime time to take out all of their nuclear facilities. Iran should have their military crushed harshly. And any Iranian general should now know.. that if you travel a bit, a missile can hit you anywhere. Iraq or Syria. Oh well, maybe one day I'll actually see and witness Iran get their asses kicked severely. It's long overdue IMO. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:06:33 PM EDT
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Biden really needs war number 4 on his watch.
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:07:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DouglasQuaid: That's an interesting thought. That would also help Russia, one of Iran's few allies. They could achieve the same thing though by halting traffic of tankers in the Persian Gulf. Of course, that would piss off most of the world, creating new enemies that Iran doesn't need. Perhaps if they were desperate that might seem like an acceptable decision to make. That would only be temporary of course. It would invite dozens of strategic bombers to launch a heavy bombing campaign against Iran. In any case, though, Iran loses. It's just a matter of how much everyone else loses as well. I bet the intelligence agencies are burning the midnight oil tonight watching Iran like a hawk. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DouglasQuaid: Originally Posted By SnoGoRider: When and if it pops off, I bet Iran is going to strike as many oil wells as they can in the area to drive oil, gas and the cost of goods up. That's an interesting thought. That would also help Russia, one of Iran's few allies. They could achieve the same thing though by halting traffic of tankers in the Persian Gulf. Of course, that would piss off most of the world, creating new enemies that Iran doesn't need. Perhaps if they were desperate that might seem like an acceptable decision to make. That would only be temporary of course. It would invite dozens of strategic bombers to launch a heavy bombing campaign against Iran. In any case, though, Iran loses. It's just a matter of how much everyone else loses as well. I bet the intelligence agencies are burning the midnight oil tonight watching Iran like a hawk. This wouldn't be the first times oil fields were targeted and set a blaze to cause havoc. Hundreds of wells burned for months in Iraq, they couldn't put them out fast enough. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:08:09 PM EDT
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Once upon a time, Iran chose to support terrorism and chaos around the world. God grew angry at their lust for murder and cursed them. Their curse warped their minds and blinded them. They started a war they could not win. In a blinding flash, they ceased to exist just as with Soodom and Gamorah. A foul stench covered the land where their rotted souls turned to ash. In the garbage dump of history, they disappeared never to rise again.
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:08:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Inneedofhelp: Worried some Iranian assets in the US are about to launch some attacks here? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Inneedofhelp: Originally Posted By sparkyfender2: Guess I better fill up the gas tank and get some toilet paper. Worried some Iranian assets in the US are about to launch some attacks here? I would not be surprised if they did. My trip back to Chicago maybe delayed. We are going shopping tomorrow but already have a good stock of TP.  |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:08:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By feetpiece: Folding and welding steel trash cans isn't dependent on Teutonic magic. You funny. I like you. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:11:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperSixOne: Biden really needs war number 4 on his watch. It may help him, if there is another conflict in the middle east and military industrial complex starts busting out munitions and spike the US economy. What is the old saying of war time presidents? |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:15:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord:
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:16:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnoGoRider: Some of their shit is almost a mile or more underground. They will have to dig awfully fast. When people panic, the oxygen gets used up fast and it is a long hard dig to the surface. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:16:59 PM EDT
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The real curve ball would be China telling Iran to go all out with a strike on Iran and our assets. Once we are fully engaged in the ME China gets to make its move. This scenario has been brought up several times here the last year.
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:19:41 PM EDT
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We’re all in this together
2 more weeks Out of an abundance of caution Flatten the curve Does that sum it up? |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:22:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BM1455:
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:24:01 PM EDT
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Well, I just hope both sides have fun.
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:24:21 PM EDT
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I’m supposed to go back to work Wed. Can WW3 please start while I’m home please.
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:24:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheOtherDave]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkStar:
ANALYSIS: The first wave of missile attacks from #Iran won’t be the “big one.” It will be designed to cause #Israel to deplete its supply of anti-air defense munitions, such as Patriot missile battery missiles. Those are now fully depleted in Ukraine, and the U.S. cannot manufacture any real quantity of Patriot missiles because, of course, the U.S. industrial base continues to collapse. Iran’s first wave of attacks, therefore, is just “Patriot missile bait” or “Iron Dome bait,” and Israel will very rapidly go through its stockpiles of anti-air defense munitions. Once depleted, and with the U.S. incapable of manufacturing any real quantity, Israel will be a wide open target zone for #Hezbollah strikes, not just Iran. “Wave 2” of this attack will be the real thrust, and it will only commence after Israel shows signs of running out of anti-air ammo. That could take a considerable amount of time. Probably weeks, maybe a few months. In addition, the claimed effectiveness of Patriot defense systems is little more than western propaganda. They will be fortunate to halt 20% of incoming missiles. And yet to do that, Patriot missile batteries have to light up their own active radar systems, effectively broadcasting their locations, making them high priority targets for the higher payload missiles of which Iran and Hezbollah have very large numbers. Watch and learn: You are about to see, over the coming weeks, that Israel’s entire Iron Dome air defense system will be depleted, dismantled and destroyed. From there, Iran’s obvious targets will be Israel’s infrastructure: Power grid systems, ports, bridges, etc. Unless this escalation is somehow stopped, the Israeli people are about to find themselves living in an active war zone, much like what Eastern (former) Ukraine has experienced since Feb of 2022. The arrogance and incompetence of western military forces has left them so detached from reality that they still think they are battling Iran from the 1980s. They have no idea what Iran (and Hezbollah) have developed since then. They are about to F around and find out. Doubt it gets that far. Israel will nuke Tehran before they fall, and while the ‘international community’ won’t like it, they won’t have anything to say about it and Israel won’t give a shit. People will finger-wave, but they also know this is what Israel will do. And the author of that article needs to be fair to the Israelis as well-they aren’t the military they were in the 1980’s either and have been fighting with kid gloves for the optics since the Yom Kippur war. It might just be the Iranians and Hamas that fuck around and find out. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:26:00 PM EDT
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$150 a barrel oil. Then what are you going to do Saint Powell?
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:27:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkStar: My thought as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkStar: Originally Posted By cyclone: This will invite a nuclear response My thought as well. If I'm Israel, 100%. Multiple at that. Iran is far enough away that fallout wouldn't be a major problem. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:28:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lexustech48: Lol, Red Rocket? lol |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:29:55 PM EDT
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Glaze Teheran.
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:30:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By binthere: You funny. I like you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By binthere: Originally Posted By feetpiece: Folding and welding steel trash cans isn't dependent on Teutonic magic. You funny. I like you.  If the Paki's are pulling it off the Turks should be able to make the boys in Oberndorf proud with their welds 
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:30:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crwdplsr: Fuck Turkey They need to be kicked outta NATO Worthless shitbags Erdogan is a Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas turd. Obama was a gool to tip him off to the coup. It’s in the Attaturk constitution to overturn Islamic zealot leaders… |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:34:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Little_Bo_Peep: Well, I just hope both sides have fun.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:34:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnoGoRider: Turkey has the largest military in that part of the world other than Russia. If we hadn’t tipped Erdogan off to the coup, it was the military’s job to evict him. Now he’s purged the military of secular officers and replaced them with loyalist zealots. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:34:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: The real curve ball would be China telling Iran to go all out with a strike on Iran and our assets. Once we are fully engaged in the ME China gets to make its move. This scenario has been brought up several times here the last year. China gearing up for an invasion of Taiwan would be known to the world days before it happened. 1944 was a long time ago. There are probably dozens of intelligence satellites watching China at any given time. There would be time to reposition assets if need be. If you're talking about China just kicking off a war against the US and our allies right from the get go, then that's something else. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:35:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ONETIMER: Meanwhile open border in USA. CLOWN WORLD. You got to figure how to handle both. Iran/China/Russia help dems with the border jumpers so you would post that. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:35:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Square66: $150 a barrel oil. Then what are you going to do Saint Powell? And a depleted strategic oil reserves... I guess it will be pump texas pump! |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:35:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ISEEYOU2: Iran will regret letting the HAMAS dogs loose...... The Iranian's are in for a world of HURT! If he is it will be from Israel….not Biden. |
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