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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:24:23 AM EDT
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Meanwhile the federal government does some level of background check for every person they hire lol
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:24:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: pdm]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By konger: Once a criminal, always a criminal. The employer should have a choice whether they choose to hire a criminal or not. This is not a civil rights issue and the government has no say. I don’t agree with you. Regardless I wasn’t commenting on recidivism. I was commenting on the Biden administration’s position. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:34:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: PeepEater]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRealBluedog: There’s a simple solution to this. Simply amend the company policy to state that every employee must be eligible to or possess a firearm. Even if they do not currently own a firearm, or intend to own a firearm. This will force the federal government to argue that requiring people to be able to own a firearm discriminates against minorities. If the Biden administration attempts to argue, that firearms ownership is a pretextual basis for discriminating against minorities, they are at the same time arguing that prohibiting firearms ownership on the basis of a criminal record is discriminating against minorities, and they will never do that. They’ll have to withdraw the lawsuit. But their lawyers will not even try. That’s why we always lose. We are simply not willing to do the things that they do to win. Democrats wouldn’t hesitate to do something like this. I guess you're not familiar with all of the new illegal immigrant cops, felon cops, and cops that use drugs. Firearms ownership laws only apply to some people some of the time. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:38:51 AM EDT
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They need to apply this to the military, the police ,the IRS and particularly the FBI. What could go wrong?
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:40:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Hill_monkey]
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Eta: beat |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 9:03:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pdm: I don’t agree with you. Regardless I wasn’t commenting on recidivism. I was commenting on the Biden administration’s position. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pdm: Originally Posted By konger: Once a criminal, always a criminal. The employer should have a choice whether they choose to hire a criminal or not. This is not a civil rights issue and the government has no say. I don’t agree with you. Regardless I wasn’t commenting on recidivism. I was commenting on the Biden administration’s position. It isn't about recidivism. It is about what a person is willing to do. At one point every criminal decided that the rules don't apply to them. I wouldn't want to hire someone that has made that decision. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 9:05:00 AM EDT
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Local Shetz is the only station that has non-ethanol fuel.
Station is well kept no matter who is working there. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 9:13:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jayne_Cobb: I've not had one of their meatball subs in a decade, but dang I'm craving one now! yes |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:06:21 AM EDT
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So if the feds say you must hire criminals and one commits a crime against a customer,
is Sheetz liable or can they say the feds made me do it? |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:48:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pogo55: So if the feds say you must hire criminals and one commits a crime against a customer, is Sheetz liable or can they say the feds made me do it? The premise of your logic is based on a falsehood. No one is saying you must hire a former criminal. But hey, that's ok. This is GD and the source of this thread is Twitter. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:14:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Imzadi: It isn't about recidivism. It is about what a person is willing to do. At one point every criminal decided that the rules don't apply to them. I wouldn't want to hire someone that has made that decision. You've never decided a rule didn't apply to you, and didn't follow it? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:44:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Wait a minute. Is the Biden administration subtly stating that all criminals are minorities? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:46:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By konger: You need to go way more outlandish with these tards in charge. Think day care centers forced to hire pedos. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By konger: Originally Posted By whiskerz: Some companies do not want criminals handling money. Next they should force banks to hire criminals as well You need to go way more outlandish with these tards in charge. Think day care centers forced to hire pedos. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/26/the-german-experiment-that-placed-foster-children-with-pedophiles Communists are subhuman scum. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:58:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: Additional documentation if anyone cares. https://www.eeoc.gov/newsroom/eeoc-sues-sheetz-inc-racially-discriminatory-hiring-practice https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/53146601/US_Equal_Employment_Opportunity_Commission_v_Sheetz,_Inc_et_al https://abc6onyourside.com/resources/pdf/7ee5a06a-577e-4181-8599-99d774a61537-Sheetzlawsuit.pdf https://asurint.com/resource-center/blog/april-2024/eeoc-files-lawsuit-against-employer-over-criminal-background-checks This may be one of the gotchas: "Prior to making the “fail” decision, the employer does not contact applicants to request additional information;" Usually employers follow an "adverse action" process: https://www.goodhire.com/blog/what-does-adverse-action-mean/ Did any of that indicate that failing the criminal background check was applied in an inconsistent manner? (I have no time to go read all of that) |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:18:13 PM EDT
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Whole thing is stupid.
Most companies cover their ass by extending an employment offer and then having the applicant get tested/run background. If they fail the piss/background test, offer of employment is rescinded. "We tried to hire them.." |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:20:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PatriotAr15: Its implying that minorities can't help but be criminals. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PatriotAr15: Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Wait a minute. Is the Biden administration subtly stating that all criminals are minorities? Correct. But it's not their fault, because whitey made them all criminals. Did CRT not teach you people anything?? 
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:33:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Emoto: Did any of that indicate that failing the criminal background check was applied in an inconsistent manner? (I have no time to go read all of that) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Emoto: Originally Posted By macros73: Additional documentation if anyone cares. https://www.eeoc.gov/newsroom/eeoc-sues-sheetz-inc-racially-discriminatory-hiring-practice https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/53146601/US_Equal_Employment_Opportunity_Commission_v_Sheetz,_Inc_et_al https://abc6onyourside.com/resources/pdf/7ee5a06a-577e-4181-8599-99d774a61537-Sheetzlawsuit.pdf https://asurint.com/resource-center/blog/april-2024/eeoc-files-lawsuit-against-employer-over-criminal-background-checks This may be one of the gotchas: "Prior to making the “fail” decision, the employer does not contact applicants to request additional information;" Usually employers follow an "adverse action" process: https://www.goodhire.com/blog/what-does-adverse-action-mean/ Did any of that indicate that failing the criminal background check was applied in an inconsistent manner? (I have no time to go read all of that) Sort of. Read the "adverse action" stuff. From a quick reading of the case, a chunk of it is that Sheetz made determinations without an adverse action process. Not saying it's right or ethical, but HR folks have had that pounded into them for awhile, and it's standard practice these days. Employers are expected to provide due process via adverse action for the candidate to dispute the credit and criminal history checks, and allegedly Sheetz wasn't. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:35:46 AM EDT
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My employer requires all employees to pass a background check. My former employer hired second chance drug court participants. They were terrible.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:36:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SrBenelli: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/7785/Buc-ee_s_beaver_svg_png-3194546.JPG Busey's!!!! Ex Bolian pronounces it that way. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:37:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zebfishzap: I'm just going to mention Kum and Go as another popular midwestern/western  gas station convenience chain... They got bought out by Maverik. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:39:05 AM EDT
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Someone missed "the content of their character" part of MLK's speech.
No business owner wants a criminal with his fingers in his till. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:45:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 41Fan: They need to apply this to the military, the police ,the IRS and particularly the FBI. What could go wrong? They need to start with the Secret Service presidential detail. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:45:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PatriotAr15: Its implying that minorities can't help but be criminals. /this The same people say that minorities can't get ID cards. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 10:15:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PatriotAr15: Some retarded Communist literally did something very similar in East Europe. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/26/the-german-experiment-that-placed-foster-children-with-pedophiles Communists are subhuman scum. Holy shit. How does someone become that evil? |
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