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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:31:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: realwar]
Work is set to begin Monday on a $12 billion high-speed passenger rail line between Las Vegas and the Los Angeles area, with officials projecting millions of ticket-buyers will be boarding trains by 2028.
 From Sin City to Los Angeles, construction starts on high-speed rail line Ticket cost (3:00)  Groundbreaking ready for high-speed train from Las Vegas to California |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:33:22 AM EDT
[#1]
Another bullshit boondoggle.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:35:33 AM EDT
[#2]
Brightline trains seem to hit a lot of people/cars in this state.
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USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:36:17 AM EDT
[#3]
I'm guessing years behind schedule and several billion over budget and no one held accountable.
Years later the audit will reveal missing money and payoffs to corrupt officials. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:36:59 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blackbeard28: Brightline trains seem to hit a lot of people/cars in this state. Now they can deal with earthquakes out here at 200 mph.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:37:57 AM EDT
[#5]
Nevadans should be fighting this. They’ll be destroyed.
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USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:38:34 AM EDT
[#6]
What a deal at only $8,294 per FOOT as an estimate.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:38:34 AM EDT
[#7]
Now Las Vegas and NV can be Californicated at an even higher rate by people too poor to fly or drive.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:39:37 AM EDT
[#8]
Isn't this the one where Feinstein's husband "coincidentally" owned a whole lot of land on that route? Or was that a different California high speed rail boondoggle?
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:45:19 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:49:30 AM EDT
[#10]
Tickets only $400.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:50:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Baddy]
[#11]
Brightline here is actually a nice way to get to Orlando (and beyond eventually.)
It's not Amtrak, too expensive for the poors, worth it if you don't want to deal with I-95 or FL Turnpike headaches, and gets from Miami>Orlando in something like 3 hours, about an hour less than driving in light traffic. Problem is they're still wayyy in the red. Lots of it was from build-out costs and debt servicing of that, but they're still not making money on ridership. Well, at least they're not running to the gov for a bailout (yet.) Now all those good things about FL Brightline, I'm sure CA will find a way to f it up. Insisting on all kinds of government |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:51:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: beitodesstrafe]
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:51:34 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HellifIknow: Nevadans should be fighting this. They’ll be destroyed. You're kidding right? The state counts on California tourist.  |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:51:49 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Millennial: Now Las Vegas and NV can be Californicated at an even higher rate by people too poor to fly or drive. Tickets from LAX to LAS are as low as $40. I can't imagine a $12+B system being less expensive for a ticket. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:52:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Paul]
[#15]
Finally a train that makes sense but not at $400 a ticket.
25-years ago this was suggested do take some of the +100,000 vehicles that travel to 'Vegas each weekend. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:54:37 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bobbitybobbity: Another bullshit boondoggle. When you are throwing around thousands of millions, it is super easy to siphon off a million here a million there... |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:55:53 AM EDT
[#17]
More expensive than flying.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:56:15 AM EDT
[#18]
This Vegas train thing seems to be almost exactly what the Simpsons monorail episode predicted
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:58:22 AM EDT
[#19]
We have a pretty good tally going of folks stupid enough to get hit by them here in South FL.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:59:00 AM EDT
[#20]
$12 billion?????? Damn, the Union Pacific line was built for $109 million back in the day, adjusted to current dollars, that would only be $2.5 billion.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:08:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: S58DRIVER]
[#21]
We call it the murder train here in S fla..I think we just about to hit an 100 dead bums so far The wife says they should wrap the train like a giant gator. They have TSA style security so no guns.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:11:57 PM EDT
[#22]
I'm predicting 20%over-runs beyond original cost bid.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:12:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Shockergd]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bobbitybobbity: Another bullshit boondoggle. Private company known for coming in on time and in budget. California already provided pre qualification for the connection, assuming no one would take them up on it. They've done well enough in Florida to do this project. Bright line is near universally praised in Florida, as it hasn't been a giant government boondoggle. Unlike the California high speed rail that's at $100b for not even 100mi of moderate speed connections. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:23:38 PM EDT
[#24]
Just what the homeless need, they'll probably get free passes if it ever starts up. That's a pretty big if.
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MT, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:35:56 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paul: You're kidding right? The state counts on California tourist. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paul: Originally Posted By HellifIknow: Nevadans should be fighting this. They’ll be destroyed. You're kidding right? The state counts on California tourist. Yeah no kidding.... he don't make no sense. Go to Vegas on any weekend and half the cars there are from SoCal. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:38:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Square66]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HellifIknow: Nevadans should be fighting this. They’ll be destroyed. Destroyed by tourists coming up from L.A. to spend money on vacation? If it weren’t for Southern California, Las Vegas would be the world’s largest outdoor bowling alley. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:38:38 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Millennial: Now Las Vegas and NV can be Californicated at an even higher rate by people too poor to fly or drive. Except in the video they mention the avg ticket in Florida is 400 and they can book a last minute round trip flight to la and back for 279 lol |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:39:34 PM EDT
[#28]
More waste of taxpayers dollars on a union jobs program.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:45:10 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shockergd: Private company known for coming in on time and in budget. California already provided pre qualification for the connection, assuming no one would take them up on it. They've done well enough in Florida to do this project. Bright line is near universally praised in Florida, as it hasn't been a giant government boondoggle. Unlike the California high speed rail that's at $100b for not even 100mi of moderate speed connections. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:46:54 PM EDT
[#30]
Brightline will deliver their 218 mile project from concept to completion far before the state of California finishes their 119 mile project that’s been in the works for 15 years.
The private model is how high speed rail should be built in the US. Private companies actually build where there’s a legitimate business case that justifies the upfront capital expenditure, whereas the government just throws money at the issue with no consideration of fare box recovery or efficiency & the service ends up being subsidized by taxpayers in perpetuity (see Amtrak). |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:50:59 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CTM1: I'm guessing years behind schedule and several billion over budget and no one held accountable. Years later the audit will reveal missing money and payoffs to corrupt officials. Double or triple the cost and schedule and you may be close. |
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SGP
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:52:53 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blackbeard28: Brightline trains seem to hit a lot of people/cars in this state. As far as this goes, I'd like it to be successful, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to take the train to Vegas because it will cost more than flying, whereas in Florida it's relatively more affordable and has similar transit times to driving. I'll probably use it when the Martin county station opens. I just wish DeSantis would strong arm them into allowing guns, even if they had similar rules to TSA. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:53:59 PM EDT
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SC, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:54:19 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whiskerz: More waste of taxpayers dollars on a union jobs program. So I can pay twice as much as flying, and it will take twice as long. IN!!! |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:55:08 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bobbitybobbity: Another bullshit boondoggle. FPNI |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:01:25 PM EDT
[#36]
Click click click and I found round trip for $180.
Why the fuck would I take a train?! 
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:03:18 PM EDT
[#37]
Brightline West is breaking ground today on the high-speed train from Las Vegas to Southern Ca Big problem ahead: Once this line is in operation, the moment that you step into a train car, the train car will say to you, "did I mention that I'm a Vegan?" |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:05:04 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: People are retarded, and Floridians are giving Indians a run for their money in the "get hit by a train" category. Trains always have the right of way. Ideally I'd like to see the crossings grade separated, but that'd be a substantial amount of money and further complicated by ownership. IIRC Brightline shares a substantial amount of track with some industrial rail company. As far as this goes, I'd like it to be successful, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to take the train to Vegas because it will cost more than flying, whereas in Florida it's relatively more affordable and has similar transit times to driving. I'll probably use it when the Martin county station opens. I just wish DeSantis would strong arm them into allowing guns, even if they had similar rules to TSA. Many airports are running out of capacity, it's a race to replace short haul flights with trains. These flights will become disadvantageous to sell soon. |
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SGP
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:05:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: odiedodi]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Drsalee: Click click click and I found round trip for $180. Why the fuck would I take a train?! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161250/6B66DE35-79A0-45D7-8793-E9511A23FF22-3195162.png Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Drsalee: Click click click and I found round trip for $180. Why the fuck would I take a train?! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161250/6B66DE35-79A0-45D7-8793-E9511A23FF22-3195162.png Originally Posted By Shockergd: Many airports are running out of capacity, it's a race to replace short haul flights with trains. These flights will become disadvantageous to sell soon. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:14:19 PM EDT
[#40]
This is about climate change and the Olympics but it won’t satisfy either.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:17:35 PM EDT
[#41]
Another way to divert taxpayer dollars to crony's.
Why is it that these projects are always projected to make tons of money but always end up losing billions? |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:20:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OregonShooter]
[#42]
It's a stretch to call Rancho Cucamonga "Los-Angeles."
But if the trip Actually takes 2 hours and 10 minutes then total travel time won't be far off of flying when you include the airport fuckery. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:24:33 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Genin: I'm predicting 20%over-runs beyond original cost bid. Does that include 10% for errrrr someone? |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:25:51 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: What a deal at only $8,294 per FOOT as an estimate. Cost plus babe. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:26:06 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bobbitybobbity: Another bullshit boondoggle. MILLIONS of travelers. MILLIONS! Absolutely a bullshit boondoggle, but an awesome opportunity for graft. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:27:45 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CTM1: I'm guessing years behind schedule and several billion over budget and no one held accountable. Years later the audit will reveal missing money and payoffs to corrupt officials. California to Las Vegas? The graft and corruption will be EPIC. It will make government officials in Chicago and New Jersey blush. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:29:08 PM EDT
[#47]
 
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:29:18 PM EDT
[#48]
That's it California. Let folks go to Vegas and spend cash ..make it easy and convenient and cheap
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:32:54 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OregonShooter: It's a stretch to call Rancho Cucamonga "Los-Angeles." But if the trip Actually takes 2 hours and 10 minutes then total travel time won't be far off of flying when you include the airport fuckery. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:35:23 PM EDT
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