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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:50:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: cancard]
Anyone have any experience with these? I’m thinking about getting one for my son. They look like beautiful firearms, just not big on them produced in Turkey but I would imagine CZ has pretty tight QA.
22LR or 22WMR, I will need to decide. https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-457-american/  Update: I found a CZ 455 with a Leupold VX Freedom 3-9x40 scope with Leupold scope rings for $550. How’d I do? 
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:55:15 AM EDT
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I don't have the American but I do have two CZ rimfires. A 452 scout and a 455 lux in 22 mag
They are both very well made and excellent rifles. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:55:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GenYRevolverGuy]
[#2]
CZ, Tikka, and Bergara make the best bolt action rimfires in that price range, and all three are excellent.
Unless something big changed, the only CZs made in Turkey are shotguns. Their rifles and pistols are made in the Czech Republic. ETA: I have a CZ 455 Trainer. It doesn't get out much because it lives in the back of the safe and it's a pretty long rifle, but it's well made, accurate, and I like it. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:56:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Reubjames: I don't have the American but I do have two CZ rimfires. A 452 scout and a 455 lux in 22 mag They are both very well made and excellent rifles. The Scout is a youth rifle, correct? I see where a used one is posted online at a LGS. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:57:55 AM EDT
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My boy started competing with a 455 in the NRL .22 matches. Great rifles for the money. Extremely accurate once you find the ammo it likes. The trigger does leave a bit to be desired but there are good aftermarket or even spring replacements.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:58:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: gearjammer351]
[#5]
I have the predecessor: the CZ452 American, and it's one of the best rimfire rifles I've ever known. I recommend them without hesitation.
 Attached FileYMMV - but I seriously doubt it.  ETA: Mine was made in CZ, but I don't know if the newer ones all are. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:00:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cancard: The Scout is a youth rifle, correct? I see where a used one is posted online at a LGS. Yup the scout is a smaller youth model. I bought this one for my kids to learn on. It's a great size until they get big enough for a larger rifle. It's still easily shootable by an adult too and would make an awesome small game gun to carry on a hunt since it's so light and compact. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:01:00 AM EDT
[#7]
I have a 452 with a threaded barrel. Great little rifle. I've eliminated a lot of vermin with it and a 22 suppressor.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:03:30 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BusterBrown: I have a 452 with a threaded barrel. Great little rifle. I've eliminated a lot of vermin with it and a 22 suppressor. Oh yes, that's a good point. I've had both of mine threaded and they are a hoot with a suppressor. The little scout with some low noise ammo is staple gun quiet. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:16:04 AM EDT
[#9]
I have a 457 in 22Mag, its a fantastic rifle, great fit and finish. Shoots very nicely, I use it to murder woodchucks. I do wish I had gone with a 17, just for a flatter shooting round though. When I bought mine in 21 I didn't see any options anywhere for a threaded barrel, and thats really my only complaint, I'd like to be able to use my 22 can on this, and I may find one somewhere someday.
The gun shoots better than I can, I took the woodchuck pictured with it at what paced out to about 330 yards (third photo, at the woodline just below the crest of the ridge) It took one shot to give a rough estimate, then kentucky windage on target. I couldn't make that shot again if I tried, but I like shooting woodchucks, so I keep on trying.   
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:18:04 AM EDT
[#10]
Bought my son a 457 scout 22lr. Excellent rifle. fixed 4x Leupold, bipod and sling and whacks squirrels all day long. It's a fantastic rifle.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:19:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:20:17 AM EDT
[#12]
Originally Posted By cancard: Anyone have any experience with these? I’m thinking about getting one for my son. They look like beautiful firearms, just not big on them produced in Turkey but I would imagine CZ has pretty tight QA. 22LR or 22WMR, I will need to decide. https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-457-american/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/474231/IMG_4369-3191084.png Get it yesterday. These are heirloom-quality rifles at reasonable prices. I have one, I want another. I got a 16" threaded barrel in .22 LR And then get a can (or two) |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:21:51 AM EDT
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I bought one in the past year, its awesome. It likes Elay ammo the most so far.
My son loves it |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:24:29 AM EDT
[#14]
Originally Posted By cancard: 22LR or 22WMR, I will need to decide. As for this, the answer is obviously: get both. Really it depends on the purpose. Kid plinking and squirrel slaying: .22LR for sure. If you already have a bunch of .22s, then the WMR to mix things up is not a bad idea. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:24:54 AM EDT
[#15]
I can lob .22s at 100 yards and hit 10" steel with open irons, and I am not a good shot by most standards. Fun rifles. Make sure to get a threaded barrel because CZ almost never stocks replacement barrels.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:25:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Reubjames: Yup the scout is a smaller youth model. I bought this one for my kids to learn on. It's a great size until they get big enough for a larger rifle. It's still easily shootable by an adult too and would make an awesome small game gun to carry on a hunt since it's so light and compact. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Reubjames: Originally Posted By cancard: The Scout is a youth rifle, correct? I see where a used one is posted online at a LGS. Yup the scout is a smaller youth model. I bought this one for my kids to learn on. It's a great size until they get big enough for a larger rifle. It's still easily shootable by an adult too and would make an awesome small game gun to carry on a hunt since it's so light and compact. Just keep in mind, mine came with a single shot magazine. 5 and 10 round agazines are around 50 bucks a piece. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:27:46 AM EDT
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Got my sons the original cz scout rifle. Far more accurate than you think.
Good ammo and a decent scope and you will get a ragged hole. They use a 12mm scope rail so you want cz rimfire specific rings. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:35:02 AM EDT
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I have a 452 with a full Mannlicher stock. Best .22 ive ever owned. High quality.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:41:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DB0351: When I bought mine in 21 I didn't see any options anywhere for a threaded barrel, and thats really my only complaint, I'd like to be able to use my 22 can on this, and I may find one somewhere someday. I sent both of my original barrels out for threading. You might consider that. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:43:21 AM EDT
[#20]
We had a 452 and now have two 457s. An AT-ONE and a Pro Varmint.
They are excellent rifles. I’d buy a third in a heartbeat. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:45:14 AM EDT
[#21]
I have a couple 452 Americans and they are great rifles, reasonably priced to all things considered
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:48:14 AM EDT
[#22]
My eldest daughter has a 452 scout and it is a laser.
I need to add one to my stable. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:50:56 AM EDT
[#23]
I don't like the 457 for the same reasons I don't like the Anschutz 64, the 1904 Portuguese Mauser, and Mosin-Nagants.
The split rear ring bugs the fuck out of me. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:57:20 AM EDT
[#24]
I have a left hand 452. It has hands down the best wood of any production rifle I have ever seen. Scheels manager held it for me because I bought so many left hand Model 70's from them.
To give you and idea how good. I own Dakota bolt action rifles with stock upgrades. The CZ not that good but it wood be the firsy upgrade on a Dakota. The thing flat out shoots. Puts 5 shots of bulk Federal in a group @ 50 yards a pencil pushed through will make the hole bigger |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:58:26 AM EDT
[#25]
I have 3 cz452 rifles , best damn rimfires
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Posted: 4/18/2024 11:06:24 AM EDT
[#26]
CZ452 Varmint with Leupold. Gem-tech threaded the barrel.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 11:13:47 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Reubjames: Oh yes, that's a good point. I've had both of mine threaded and they are a hoot with a suppressor. The little scout with some low noise ammo is staple gun quiet. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Reubjames: Originally Posted By BusterBrown: I have a 452 with a threaded barrel. Great little rifle. I've eliminated a lot of vermin with it and a 22 suppressor. Oh yes, that's a good point. I've had both of mine threaded and they are a hoot with a suppressor. The little scout with some low noise ammo is staple gun quiet. I agree completely. When I want to impress someone, I load up some CCI quiet in the mag. Almost everyone giggles the first time. When I shoot vermin, I use standard velocity. It's still pretty quiet, but I like the idea of having a little more energy when it hits. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 11:38:10 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Reubjames: I sent both of my original barrels out for threading. You might consider that. Where did you send yours for threading? I have a lefty that I've considered getting cut a bit shorter and threaded. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 11:41:50 AM EDT
[#29]
I love my 455. I have 22LR and 17 HMR barrels. I plan on getting a 457 youth model for my sun.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 11:43:57 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Jonny-: Where did you send yours for threading? I have a lefty that I've considered getting cut a bit shorter and threaded. @-Jonny- I sent mine to Morgan at Class 3 Machining. I've had him do a half dozen or so barrels for various rifles. Always good quality work. I haven't sent one to him in a few years though so I'm not sure what his current turnaround times are but he used to get them back to me in 7-10 days and was reasonably priced. https://class3machining.com/ |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 11:44:09 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Reubjames: Yup the scout is a smaller youth model. I bought this one for my kids to learn on. It's a great size until they get big enough for a larger rifle. It's still easily shootable by an adult too and would make an awesome small game gun to carry on a hunt since it's so light and compact. You can buy the stocks from CZ, so you can get the scout (threaded barrel with nice iron sights) and replace the stock if he wants a bigger one. The scout stock is small, but not awkward for an adult to shoot. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 11:46:44 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Reubjames: @-Jonny- I sent mine to Morgan at Class 3 Machining. I've had him do a half dozen or so barrels for various rifles. Always good quality work. I haven't sent one to him in a few years though so I'm not sure what his current turnaround times are but he used to get them back to me in 7-10 days and was reasonably priced. https://class3machining.com/ Thanks |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 11:48:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MateFrio]
[#33]
I have a CZ 453 American in 17hmr. A bit of a unicorn. Great rifle.
 Set trigger is nice.  |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 11:59:18 AM EDT
[#34]
452 American in 17hmr. Scope is now a 14 power Mueller. The thing shoots like a laser as long as the wind is not too bad. One of the last with high gloss bluing and wood. I'd like to get a CZ in 7.62x39, but the last time I checked, they were getting pricey.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 12:05:57 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By toby1: 452 American in 17hmr. Scope is now a 14 power Mueller. The thing shoots like a laser as long as the wind is not too bad. One of the last with high gloss bluing and wood. I'd like to get a CZ in 7.62x39, but the last time I checked, they were getting pricey. https://i.imgur.com/yJhA7SAl.jpg One of the little compact 527 mini-mausers in 7.62x39 would be fun for sure. One of my very good friends had one and his widow still has it. When he passed away, I helped her inventory his firearms and told her if she ever decided to part with it, I'd gladly pay her a premium for it. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 12:09:37 PM EDT
[#36]
CZ 455 American here. I put a Leupold VX-1 3-9x40 (Leupold turned down the parallax for me) on it, and can pop golf balls at 100 yards all day with CCI 40gr mini mag. They're beautiful little rifles, highly recommended.
They've upgraded the 457 in a couple of areas, and I really want one.  Attached File |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 12:20:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Green_Canoe]
[#37]
I just bought that exact rifle two weeks ago. I mounted a Leupold 2-7X rimfire in Talley rings on it. I bought it be an accurate but CHEAP to shoot stand in for my hunting rifle. Unfortunately, I've been too busy with other things to get out and shoot. Maybe this weekend...
Just handling the rifle I'm very satisfied. The fit and finish are good and all the functions are smooth. Without the input from shooting it, I'd buy another... Oh... It's not made in Turkey. It's made in Czechoslovakia.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 1:39:13 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FALex: My boy started competing with a 455 in the NRL .22 matches. Great rifles for the money. Extremely accurate once you find the ammo it likes. The trigger does leave a bit to be desired but there are good aftermarket or even spring replacements. That reminds me. I've had mine so long that I forgot I upgraded the trigger.  I bought it more than a decade ago, so the details are hazy. I wasn't shopping for this specific gun, just looking for a more accurate .22LR to have fun with than my rattly old 10/22. My LGS guy recommended it. I didn't know much about it, and when I went looking online for more info, someone on a forum recommended the trigger upgrade and linked the kit, so it's had the trigger upgrade since I've had it.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 1:39:29 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Green_Canoe: I just bought that exact rifle two weeks ago. I mounted a Leupold 2-7X rimfire in Talley rings on it. I bought it be an accurate but CHEAP to shoot stand in for my hunting rifle. Unfortunately, I've been too busy with other things to get out and shoot. Maybe this weekend... Just handling the rifle I'm very satisfied. The fit and finish are good and all the functions are smooth. Without the input from shooting it, I'd buy another... Oh... It's not made in Turkey. It's made in Czechoslovakia. It’s a sexy rifle for sure. The responses here have convinced me to Fo. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 1:44:11 PM EDT
[#40]
 I have 2 CZ’s. I’d buy another in a heart beat. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 1:48:43 PM EDT
[#41]
It’s pretty much either these or Tikka t1x. After that you get into real big money with anchutz or begara or some other rem700 based 22lr action (but if you know about those you have a different use case in mind.
But I’d go with cz over tikka because: 1) longer history (they’ve been making a 22lr bolt at cz/brno for decades) 2) better mags (bombproof reliable, again decades of proven) 3) caliber and barrel swaps. Get the 22 now you can always get or convert the magnum later. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 1:59:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: djkest]
[#42]
Man now I really want another CZ rifle.
Love the walnut stocks, the chonky action, the look and feel of them. Feels modern yet still firmly rooted in the past. The kind of rifle you can pass down to your grandkids. And they are great for ANY shooter from 8 to 90, great with a can, great for plinking. Originally Posted By cancard: It’s a sexy rifle for sure. The responses here have convinced me to Fo. Do it, you will have 0 regrets. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 2:09:52 PM EDT
[#43]
I have a 452 in .17 HMR, it is an absolute tack driver. It looks like it's been dragged behind a truck, as I have carried it on my Gator in all weather imaginable for close to 20 years, but still shoots well. My wife has a CZ Scout in .22 LR she has won a lot of matches with.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 2:11:08 PM EDT
[#44]
Get it, CZs are great
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Posted: 4/18/2024 2:24:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sq40]
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I have the at one version, 24” barrel. Leupold 4-12x50 on it.
Small Steel plate at 100 yards is boring and 100% repeatable every shot. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:05:43 PM EDT
[#46]
Update in OP.
You guys cost me money 
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:08:16 PM EDT
[#47]
Cz makes an excellent rifle . I have a rimfire and a center-fire . They are well made and accurate.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:27:31 PM EDT
[#48]
A CZ rimfire is never a bad choice.
Like a 10/22, everybody should have one around the house. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:29:12 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3-gun: Got my sons the original cz scout rifle. Far more accurate than you think. Good ammo and a decent scope and you will get a ragged hole. They use a 12mm scope rail so you want cz rimfire specific rings. They are 11mm |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:31:20 PM EDT
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Pick up a petes pillars firing pin, the factory ones flake the coating off.
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