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Posted: 4/23/2024 5:52:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Socio]
How about just buy the service or quit crying!
I hate air travel, I avoid it like the plague, and I am by no means rich, but if I was a frequent flyer I would subscribe to that service in a heartbeat, someone's else equity or perceived dignity be damned. California could ban Clear, which lets travelers pay to skip TSA lines "It's a basic equity issue when you see people subscribed to a concierge service being escorted in front of people who have waited a long time to get to the front of TSA line," Newman told CBS MoneyWatch. "Everyone is beaten down by the travel experience, and if Clear escorts a customer in front of you and tells TSA, 'Sorry, I have someone better,' it's really frustrating." "It's about dignity in the travel experience of people who don't have money to pay for upsell services," Newman said. " |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 5:57:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Socio: How about just buy the service or quit crying! I hate air travel, I avoid it like the plague, and I am by no means rich, but if I was a frequent flyer I would subscribe to that service in a heartbeat, someone's else equity or perceived dignity be damned. California could ban Clear, which lets travelers pay to skip TSA lines "It's a basic equity issue when you see people subscribed to a concierge service being escorted in front of people who have waited a long time to get to the front of TSA line," Newman told CBS MoneyWatch. "Everyone is beaten down by the travel experience, and if Clear escorts a customer in front of you and tells TSA, 'Sorry, I have someone better,' it's really frustrating." "It's about dignity in the travel experience of people who don't have money to pay for upsell services," Newman said. " What about toll express lanes. They're racist!? |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 6:00:15 AM EDT
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Next they are going to ban Pre, they are ina shorter line as well. The real rich are flying private and don’t wait in lines anyway.
Let’s hit the real cause, not everyone can pass a background check, if the poors flew enough they could divert funds. Surprised that Ca isn’t banning first class, how come those people get to board early, sit up front in large seats and get free drinks? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 6:03:04 AM EDT
[#3]
Let’s just ban success no matter how small in the interests of equity…
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:29:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Slingblade2006]
[#4]
Ban Global Entry at the border, cause working people are racist.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:32:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Codyboy]
[#5]
A few years ago we went to a theme / amusement park and paid extra to skip all the lines. It was awesome. Almost felt guilty.
Almost. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:33:14 AM EDT
[#6]
 None of those idiots have been to an airport or a DMV office. 
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:41:22 AM EDT
[#7]
Watch Clear give free 5 year memberships to the legislature and staffers, and send reps to Sacramento to do the enrollment, and it disappears.
Kharn |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:45:14 AM EDT
[#8]
Racism and bigotry will surely end when this is passed.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:46:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By olivers_AR: Next they are going to ban Pre, they are ina shorter line as well. The real rich are flying private and don’t wait in lines anyway. Let’s hit the real cause, not everyone can pass a background check, if the poors flew enough they could divert funds. Surprised that Ca isn’t banning first class, how come those people get to board early, sit up front in large seats and get free drinks? A few years ago they flipped and went full search on pre checked people. When I was a kid this was a free country. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:49:52 AM EDT
[#10]
I’m glad I’ve seent a lot of the world. Not everything I’d like, but a good chunk.
If the megapowerball smiles on me, I will travel again, private. As of now, if I never set foot in an airport again, I’m good. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:54:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Socio: How about just buy the service or quit crying! I hate air travel, I avoid it like the plague, and I am by no means rich, but if I was a frequent flyer I would subscribe to that service in a heartbeat, someone's else equity or perceived dignity be damned. California could ban Clear, which lets travelers pay to skip TSA lines "It's a basic equity issue when you see people subscribed to a concierge service being escorted in front of people who have waited a long time to get to the front of TSA line," Newman told CBS MoneyWatch. "Everyone is beaten down by the travel experience, and if Clear escorts a customer in front of you and tells TSA, 'Sorry, I have someone better,' it's really frustrating." "It's about dignity in the travel experience of people who don't have money to pay for upsell services," Newman said. " I bet people like Gavin and other gov flunkies and the ultra rich still get to skip the lines by various means. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:58:19 AM EDT
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I don't get it. If you can afford to travel enough that you would care about a service like this, you could afford it. If it's a whole bunch of whiny non-English speaking occasional travelers that can't understand what pre-check or clear lines are they should be told to fuck themselves.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:59:51 AM EDT
[#13]
Hey that rich man has a big house and I don't. That is not fair
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:02:44 AM EDT
[#14]
Covid money had something to do with the way airports have gone downhill.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:02:47 AM EDT
[#15]
That's some Atlas Shrugged/Harrison Bergeron bullshit right there. Taking away from or handicapping one to make the other FEEL better. Sounds like a Biden campaign slogan.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:02:57 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fosters: Let’s just ban success no matter how small in the interests of equity… We’re all working for the betterment and Glory of The State right, Comrade? |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:03:35 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kharn: Watch Clear give free 5 year memberships to the legislature and staffers, and send reps to Sacramento to do the enrollment, and it disappears. Kharn Some pigs are more equal… |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:04:29 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: Hey that rich man has a big house and I don't. That is not fair Big houses are a PITA. Big house, big maintenance. I live in a small 1.5 story Cape and wish I could afford to downsize. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:06:47 AM EDT
[#19]
Waiting in long lines are a tenet of Communism. Everyone has to suffer equally.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:09:38 AM EDT
[#20]
People in Cali must literally get up every day trying to see if they can top the stupidest shit they did the day before, all trying to one up themselves on pure stupidity. Being a literal shit for brains idiot must be contagious out there.
If a earth quake happened tomorrow and california fell off the US and into the sea and sank...I would not be mad. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:24:09 AM EDT
[#21]
Ban privileges for legislators and .gov employees while you're at it commies.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:25:33 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fosters: Let’s just ban success no matter how small in the interests of equity… That’s pretty much the plan. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:26:02 AM EDT
[#23]
For the price I’m not sure what the real value of clear is. I fly out of MCO and compared to typical precheck it’s not really speeding things up all that much.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:26:37 AM EDT
[#24]
Originally Posted By Socio: How about just buy the service or quit crying! I hate air travel, I avoid it like the plague, and I am by no means rich, but if I was a frequent flyer I would subscribe to that service in a heartbeat, someone's else equity or perceived dignity be damned. California could ban Clear, which lets travelers pay to skip TSA lines "It's a basic equity issue when you see people subscribed to a concierge service being escorted in front of people who have waited a long time to get to the front of TSA line," Newman told CBS MoneyWatch. "Everyone is beaten down by the travel experience, and if Clear escorts a customer in front of you and tells TSA, 'Sorry, I have someone better,' it's really frustrating." "It's about dignity in the travel experience of people who don't have money to pay for upsell services," Newman said. " I wonder if they'll ban first-class and business-class seating? |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:30:26 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Karankawa: A few years ago they flipped and went full search on pre checked people. When I was a kid this was a free country. What? I travel often, have pre-check, and am never searched. Throw my stuff on the x-ray conveyer belt, walk through the x-ray and off I go. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:41:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By heavymetal762: I wonder if they'll ban first-class and business-class seating? And airport lounges. "You must congregate with the poors, citizen. Now go wait in line for your $15 Burger King meal, shut up, and eat it in the corner of the terminal..." |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:45:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RatherBeLifting]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FivespeedF150: For the price I’m not sure what the real value of clear is. I fly out of MCO and compared to typical precheck it’s not really speeding things up all that much. It's on an airport by airport basis. In Tulsa, CLEAR would actually add time to getting through security. I could see that with MCO as well. That said, when I was flying out of SFO, Denver, ATL, ORD, etc CLEAR took 30 minutes or more off getting through security. I'd get walked right to the very front of the Pre line which was often backed up as well. It's well worth it if you frequent a high traffic airport with screwed up security lines. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:48:33 AM EDT
[#28]
Airport security is a federal thing so under what authority does the state have to decide who does it.
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:54:21 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eroic: That's some Atlas Shrugged/Harrison Bergeron bullshit right there. Taking away from or handicapping one to make the other FEEL better. Sounds like a Biden campaign slogan. All the ignoring the actual problem, which is the TSA and the security check process. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:20:07 AM EDT
[#30]
“Those who search for racism seem to find it everywhere” -Socrates, maybe
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:20:13 AM EDT
[#31]
It pisses me off when these Clear fucks get to butt in at the front of the PreCheck line.
I have Global Entry and they have more rights than me? I'm in the system biometrically. I come back into the country, I don't even need to get my passport out. Scan my face and keep walking. Let them in front of the general security line. I bet the rubes over there would love that. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:21:42 AM EDT
[#32]
Wait, California now believes States can preempt the Federal Government?
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:24:09 AM EDT
[#33]
Just be an illegal and you can skip the lines and the ID requirements.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:29:00 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RatherBeLifting: It's on an airport by airport basis. In Tulsa, CLEAR would actually add time to getting through security. I could see that with MCO as well. That said, when I was flying out of SFO, Denver, ATL, ORD, etc CLEAR took 30 minutes or more off getting through security. I'd get walked right to the very front of the Pre line which was often backed up as well. It's well worth it if you frequent a high traffic airport with screwed up security lines. Also I’m finding some airports are having TSA staffing issues and several times the Pre-check lines have been closed so having CLEAR would have been helpful. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:40:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Karankawa: A few years ago they flipped and went full search on pre checked people. When I was a kid this was a free country. Lol. No they don’t. You’re lying to push a narrative. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:43:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lilMAC25: I bet people like Gavin and other gov flunkies and the ultra rich still get to skip the lines by various means. Yep. Politicians drive through the gate, escorted by airline/city people and walk up the jetway stairs. High Net Worth people just charter or have their own planes. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:43:30 AM EDT
[#37]
Ban ticket classes too and only able to fly Spirit airlines.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:50:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RatherBeLifting: It's on an airport by airport basis. In Tulsa, CLEAR would actually add time to getting through security. I could see that with MCO as well. That said, when I was flying out of SFO, Denver, ATL, ORD, etc CLEAR took 30 minutes or more off getting through security. I'd get walked right to the very front of the Pre line which was often backed up as well. It's well worth it if you frequent a high traffic airport with screwed up security lines. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RatherBeLifting: Originally Posted By FivespeedF150: For the price I’m not sure what the real value of clear is. I fly out of MCO and compared to typical precheck it’s not really speeding things up all that much. It's on an airport by airport basis. In Tulsa, CLEAR would actually add time to getting through security. I could see that with MCO as well. That said, when I was flying out of SFO, Denver, ATL, ORD, etc CLEAR took 30 minutes or more off getting through security. I'd get walked right to the very front of the Pre line which was often backed up as well. It's well worth it if you frequent a high traffic airport with screwed up security lines. I suppose it really is airport dependent. I got CLEAR for free and I probably only used it twice in the last 50 flights. Even at DEN enough people have it now that it’s not faster than TSA Pre a lot of the time. I’ve never used it for SFO. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:50:19 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kharn: Watch Clear give free 5 year memberships to the legislature and staffers, and send reps to Sacramento to do the enrollment, and it disappears. Kharn And staple a check for $250,000 to $1,000,000 to the back of the apology letter. California is pay to play 100%. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:51:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Karankawa]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JaredC1: Lol. No they don’t. You’re lying to push a narrative. I’m all for bashing TSA and the patriot act but it happened to Adam Curry. He travelled internationally often with his show equipment and gave reports about his experience. He was pissed. The petty little tyrant types loved to try and embarrass him thinking the microphone was a vibrator. That job appeals to the worst among us. Can’t remember which airport. Maybe Austin. A lot of the time the precheck line took significantly longer. It was a running thing for weeks. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:51:59 AM EDT
[#41]
Why not ban airplanes all together because the really poor people travel by bus and train.
They like trains there. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:53:06 AM EDT
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If they ban Timesaver Passes at Dollywood, I ain't goin' back.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:53:09 AM EDT
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I travel quite a bit and have Clear and it's dogshit, but fuck CA just because.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:53:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By networkguru: What about toll express lanes. They're racist!? Well, that's different |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:55:09 AM EDT
[#45]
Should ban First Class too. It's degrading the way they make the economy passengers walk through the First Class cabin on the way to their seats.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:57:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By networkguru: What about toll express lanes. They're racist!? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By networkguru: Originally Posted By Socio: How about just buy the service or quit crying! I hate air travel, I avoid it like the plague, and I am by no means rich, but if I was a frequent flyer I would subscribe to that service in a heartbeat, someone's else equity or perceived dignity be damned. California could ban Clear, which lets travelers pay to skip TSA lines "It's a basic equity issue when you see people subscribed to a concierge service being escorted in front of people who have waited a long time to get to the front of TSA line," Newman told CBS MoneyWatch. "Everyone is beaten down by the travel experience, and if Clear escorts a customer in front of you and tells TSA, 'Sorry, I have someone better,' it's really frustrating." "It's about dignity in the travel experience of people who don't have money to pay for upsell services," Newman said. " What about toll express lanes. They're racist!? Fuck toll lanes. Built using taxpayer money, then used to suck more money out of people. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 10:01:27 AM EDT
[#47]
Typical gov't, focusing on the symptom and not the problem.
Get rid of the TSA boondoggle and we won't need CLEAR or precheck upsells. The gov't keeps finding new ways to molest us. |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 10:04:28 AM EDT
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TSA? Airport terminal? That's all poor people shit.
Civilized people are shuttled in a nice comfy private vehicle to the FBO, where they can usually just step on board that G650. But on the off chance that they have to wait a bit, they sit in a nice comfy lounge and eat catered food and drink expensive stuff. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 10:05:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: xciapup]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dogsplat: I’m glad I’ve seent a lot of the world. Not everything I’d like, but a good chunk. If the megapowerball smiles on me, I will travel again, private. As of now, if I never set foot in an airport again, I’m good. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ We have a winner. I saw a lot of the world on .mil. I study routing to avoid interstates now as well. Use larger state highways. Usually adds about 2-3 hours to my trips. But on average I get behind a pileup on the interstate about every third trip and those cost me about 2 hours average. And the pot holes are getting worse, not better. So I see more of America on state roads and might not get killed by a zombie driving with her knees watching Tik Tok on I-40. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 10:05:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paul: And staple a check for $250,000 to $1,000,000 to the back of the apology letter. California is pay to play 100%. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paul: Originally Posted By Kharn: Watch Clear give free 5 year memberships to the legislature and staffers, and send reps to Sacramento to do the enrollment, and it disappears. Kharn And staple a check for $250,000 to $1,000,000 to the back of the apology letter. California is pay to play 100%.  Attached FileKharn |
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