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Originally Posted By kychas: Is anyone making them now? For the DIY crowd With 3D printing I would hope now there should be a file to make in interlocking sections that can be glued together Or how about someone making a 3D mold set to make one at home out of fiber glass or carbon fiber View Quote @kychas Yes, someone designed one for 3D printing. Look for monopoly on the Gatalog |
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Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: Oh, he might be a tool, but he’s not a veteran of the insurgency at CHAZ. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: Originally Posted By feetpiece: I ragert not buying a couple of those back when Shawn was still active on GOTX I appreciate that clarification. It's been a while since the other forum got shut down but I don't remember him being a tool Oh, he might be a tool, but he’s not a veteran of the insurgency at CHAZ. I don't remember too much from back then but seeing old screen names in headlines is a bit disconcerting |
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Originally Posted By chibajoe: The uppers are different, but will bolt up to a regular lower. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By chibajoe: The uppers are different, but will bolt up to a regular lower. Oh good to know. If I find it again I'll have to buy it. Originally Posted By feetpiece: I don't remember too much from back then but seeing old screen names in headlines is a bit disconcerting Ya I don't want to be too hard on him. But he was a little too defensive of Karl. Especially when the dude flamed out enough to break his relationship with Ian (Forgotten Weapons), and brownells. I don't think he was directly involved in the antifa shenanigans. But having relatively close ties to many of the folks who were involved.... I'm just hoping the KE lowers don't become official arms of the commie militia. Because I like how it evolved from the cav arms one. |
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Rio
I think that's how she spelled her name. Could be wrong. |
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I’ve got a lightish 18” hunting build based around one. 18” Faxon pencil barrel, slick side upper, PSA lightweight rail I had laying around, and an ALG ACT or similar. Recently replaced the Strike Eagle with a Sig Tango 1-10.
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"They want you dead but will settle for your submission" - Malice
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Originally Posted By feetpiece: I ragert not buying a couple of those back when Shawn was still active on GOTX I appreciate that clarification. It's been a while since the other forum got shut down but I don't remember him being a tool View Quote Russell and Karl have probably been involved in tons of 3 gun and 3 gun type events together for a couple of decades, I doubt Russell tags along to the satanic or leftist gigs. I bumped into Karl at a gunshow'ish event a few months ago, we've been in classes together in the past, we talked briefly. Karl is a habitual contrarian, if the so called Church of Satan was "mainstream" he'd be a Christian. |
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"They want you dead but will settle for your submission" - Malice
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Originally Posted By juan223: I doubt Russell tags along to the satanic or leftist gigs. I bumped into Karl at a gunshow'ish event a few months ago, we've been in classes together in the past, we talked briefly. Karl is a habitual contrarian, if the so called Church of Satan was "mainstream" he'd be a Christian. View Quote And yet, Russel still does social media with Antifa, JBGC, SRA and satanist groups (although the latter isn't important, IMO, just cringe). KE Arms also doesn't separate themselves from the social media attachment to those violent leftists that both Russel and Karl align and do content with like Tacticool Girlfriend and Deviant Ollum. |
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Originally Posted By The_Wizard_Of_Odd: Like this? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54986/IMG_9859_jpeg-3191197.JPG View Quote Me three... Picked one out of the big box that had just been delivered, then promply drank a bunch of Shawn's booze and racked out on his office couch. |
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"They want you dead but will settle for your submission" - Malice
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Originally Posted By Bacon_Grease: Oh good to know. If I find it again I'll have to buy it. Ya I don't want to be too hard on him. But he was a little too defensive of Karl. Especially when the dude flamed out enough to break his relationship with Ian (Forgotten Weapons), and brownells. I don't think he was directly involved in the antifa shenanigans. But having relatively close ties to many of the folks who were involved.... I'm just hoping the KE lowers don't become official arms of the commie militia. Because I like how it evolved from the cav arms one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Bacon_Grease: Oh good to know. If I find it again I'll have to buy it. Ya I don't want to be too hard on him. But he was a little too defensive of Karl. Especially when the dude flamed out enough to break his relationship with Ian (Forgotten Weapons), and brownells. I don't think he was directly involved in the antifa shenanigans. But having relatively close ties to many of the folks who were involved.... I'm just hoping the KE lowers don't become official arms of the commie militia. Because I like how it evolved from the cav arms one. Originally Posted By juan223: Russell and Karl have probably been involved in tons of 3 gun and 3 gun type events together for a couple of decades, I doubt Russell tags along to the satanic or leftist gigs. I bumped into Karl at a gunshow'ish event a few months ago, we've been in classes together in the past, we talked briefly. Karl is a habitual contrarian, if the so called Church of Satan was "mainstream" he'd be a Christian. I never interacted with folks from the forum back in the day so finding out about their off-line activities years later is so weird. |
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"They want you dead but will settle for your submission" - Malice
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Originally Posted By R2point0: Careful with the GWACS lowers. Their last blowout were blems: nominally cosmetic only, but I got one where the holes for the upper pins are off just slightly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By R2point0: Originally Posted By AzzFaceKillah: For you guys that still have these lowers, what's the lightest non-sbr build you've been able to put together? With optic? Without? I'd kinda like to try one of the gwacs ones if they're true to the originals. Interestingly, the fixed stock is set up to A1 length. Russel had said that A1 length is the most commonly used length even among shooters with collapsible stocks. |
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Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: One of the key employees (Russel Phagan) at the old Cav Arms is now with KE Arms where they make the new derivative plastic lower. He is aligned with an online wannabe social media red coffee shop revolutionary. It’s unclear if Russel is a commie or just retarded. View Quote I can confirm he is a retard. Unaware if he is a retard+commie |
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom: And yet, Russel still does social media with Antifa, JBGC, SRA and satanist groups (although the latter isn't important, IMO, just cringe). KE Arms also doesn't separate themselves from the social media attachment to those violent leftists that both Russel and Karl align and do content with like Tacticool Girlfriend and Deviant Ollum. View Quote The leftists, like Antifa, refer to their militia activity as “community defense.” Not by accident, KE Arms sells a “community defense rifle.” |
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Originally Posted By WesJanson: At one point those were getting blown out at 5/$100....hard to pass up a stack of lowers for less than a BCG. O_o View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By WesJanson: Originally Posted By Jupiter7: Have the sabre defense one, talk about double ATF whammy Built as lightweight P&W 14.5 beater iron sighted gun https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/423396/IMG_2003_jpeg-3190886.JPG At one point those were getting blown out at 5/$100....hard to pass up a stack of lowers for less than a BCG. O_o I bought 25 of them during the blow out, still have them. Some built out others just top shelf in a safe. The make great lowers for can cannons too |
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom: And yet, Russel still does social media with Antifa, JBGC, SRA and satanist groups (although the latter isn't important, IMO, just cringe). KE Arms also doesn't separate themselves from the social media attachment to those violent leftists that both Russel and Karl align and do content with like Tacticool Girlfriend and Deviant Ollum. View Quote I found this, is this the type of advocacy you're referring to? https://www.instagram.com/p/CoOyj3-O-iA/ Attached File |
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Originally Posted By juan223: I found this, is this the type of advocacy you're referring to? https://www.instagram.com/p/CoOyj3-O-iA/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/137019/Screenshot_19-4-2024_191514_www_instagra-3192826.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By juan223: I found this, is this the type of advocacy you're referring to? https://www.instagram.com/p/CoOyj3-O-iA/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/137019/Screenshot_19-4-2024_191514_www_instagra-3192826.JPG The "2A for Everyone" slogan is a dogwhistle for everyone but the CURRENT 2A community. Either you're a moby undermining the community or you can research where that slogan comes from and that it's a gaslight for the simpletons. They don't believe in the INDIVIDUAL right to the 2A, but the community right. @Floridacop Commie activities of KE Arms/Inrange TV mega-thread Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: The leftists, like Antifa, refer to their militia activity as “community defense.” Not by accident, KE Arms sells a “community defense rifle.” 100% this is their stance. They are not for the individual right to keep and bear arms. They are for the community to do so at the expense of individuals they see as undesirable. |
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Leftists may not want us/everyone to have access to the 2nd Amendment but Russell sure does.
Originally Posted By 11boomboom: The "2A for Everyone" slogan is a dogwhistle for everyone but the CURRENT 2A community. Either you're a moby undermining the community or you can research where that slogan comes from and that it's a gaslight for the simpletons. They don't believe in the INDIVIDUAL right to the 2A, but the community right. @Floridacop 100% this is their stance. They are not for the individual right to keep and bear arms. They are for the community to do so at the expense of individuals they see as undesirable. View Quote |
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"They want you dead but will settle for your submission" - Malice
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Why is the sky blue?
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Threads like this make me feel really old.
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Originally Posted By Air: 45 caliber. Its been too long since I've seen it but I remember that much. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Air: Originally Posted By grendelbane: Against doing what? It was specifically designed to accept grease gun magazines. I don't remember any documentation coming with mine, but I spent time on the old Cavalry Arms website and don't remember it saying anything about not using Olympic Arms uppers. In any case after several thousand rounds, mostly mild, a few wild, it is still functioning fine, and doesn't show any signs of damage. They did recommend an 9 ounce buffer, which is what I use. 45 caliber. Its been too long since I've seen it but I remember that much. The Cav Arms Mk 2 lower was engineered to accept .45 ACP M3 Grease Gun magazines in conjunction with a specialty Hahn block and an Olympic Arms blowback upper. What caliber Olympic Arms upper do you think would run best with .45 ACP M3 Grease Gun magazines? GWACS apparently still has blem Mk2s for sale. They are currently involved in litigation with KE Arms in a dispute over KE Arms' KP-15. On GWACS' side, the litigation is apparently being funded by an "angel investor" who doesn't think civilians should own AR-15s: https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_6/2571815_InRange-KE-Arms-Brownells-WWSD-Ian-McCollum-Cav-Arms-the-Mk2-the-KP-15-and-GWACS.html You may also find used & NOS Mk2s roll marked Cav Arms, Armalite, and Sabre Defense. Those of you with Mk 1s, identifiable by the captured takedown pins, pay careful attention to the rear takedown pin detent hole on the right side. If it cracks there that may propagate down the side of the lower and cause it to fail. Also, very early Mk 1s had an issue with the buffer tube rear failing, hence the Mk2 using a carbine length buffer. KE Arms has also produced KP-15s for another company up north, whose name escapes me at the moment. Sabre Defense was the company that got nailed for customs shenanigans. That led ATF to investigate Cav Arms, and subsequently shut them down, much as they nearly shut down Stag. The Russell/Sinistral thread has been linked above if you care to wade through it. WarFairy's Charon was an early printable lower that included significant stock reinforcement, there are many others now, and the Charon could be printed in up to 4 small pieces and glued together IIRC. |
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Death to quislings.
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Originally Posted By juan223: Leftists may not want us/everyone to have access to the 2nd Amendment but Russell sure does. View Quote He partners with Karl and is partially paid by InRange. Russell is also about what makes him money, the "2A is for everyone" is just as much about benefiting him as a Capitalist as it is about him being constitutionalist. This is what Karl has said in an interview with "A better way 2A": Karl: "With the firearms community, I don't see an alternative left, but as we grass roots grow groups everywhere working together, again with shared values, maybe not always shared beliefs, shared values will be where we can make a new space that is separate and distinct and different from the old and if we succeeded doing that well, the old one might become sort of defunct and we will become the new gun community." Karl does not see his vision coexisting with the gun community, he wants to replace it. No anarchist/socialist/communist is going to get involved in with any organization without eventually trying to insert their beliefs or principles into it. All of this is known to Russell, who basks in the attention Karl's audience brings. Oh, and Russell has also been a guest on "A better way 2a" |
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"Little shaken babies and drunkards seem to all agree, once the show gets started its bound to be a sight to see"
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Got one somewhere, never built it.
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Originally Posted By backbencher: The Cav Arms Mk 2 lower was engineered to accept .45 ACP M3 Grease Gun magazines in conjunction with a specialty Hahn block and an Olympic Arms blowback upper. What caliber Olympic Arms upper do you think would run best with .45 ACP M3 Grease Gun magazines? GWACS apparently still has blem Mk2s for sale. They are currently involved in litigation with KE Arms in a dispute over KE Arms' KP-15. On GWACS' side, the litigation is apparently being funded by an "angel investor" who doesn't think civilians should own AR-15s: https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_6/2571815_InRange-KE-Arms-Brownells-WWSD-Ian-McCollum-Cav-Arms-the-Mk2-the-KP-15-and-GWACS.html You may also find used & NOS Mk2s roll marked Cav Arms, Armalite, and Sabre Defense. Those of you with Mk 1s, identifiable by the captured takedown pins, pay careful attention to the rear takedown pin detent hole on the right side. If it cracks there that may propagate down the side of the lower and cause it to fail. Also, very early Mk 1s had an issue with the buffer tube rear failing, hence the Mk2 using a carbine length buffer. KE Arms has also produced KP-15s for another company up north, whose name escapes me at the moment. Sabre Defense was the company that got nailed for customs shenanigans. That led ATF to investigate Cav Arms, and subsequently shut them down, much as they nearly shut down Stag. The Russell/Sinistral thread has been linked above if you care to wade through it. WarFairy's Charon was an early printable lower that included significant stock reinforcement, there are many others now, and the Charon could be printed in up to 4 small pieces and glued together IIRC. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Air: Originally Posted By grendelbane: Against doing what? It was specifically designed to accept grease gun magazines. I don't remember any documentation coming with mine, but I spent time on the old Cavalry Arms website and don't remember it saying anything about not using Olympic Arms uppers. In any case after several thousand rounds, mostly mild, a few wild, it is still functioning fine, and doesn't show any signs of damage. They did recommend an 9 ounce buffer, which is what I use. 45 caliber. Its been too long since I've seen it but I remember that much. The Cav Arms Mk 2 lower was engineered to accept .45 ACP M3 Grease Gun magazines in conjunction with a specialty Hahn block and an Olympic Arms blowback upper. What caliber Olympic Arms upper do you think would run best with .45 ACP M3 Grease Gun magazines? GWACS apparently still has blem Mk2s for sale. They are currently involved in litigation with KE Arms in a dispute over KE Arms' KP-15. On GWACS' side, the litigation is apparently being funded by an "angel investor" who doesn't think civilians should own AR-15s: https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_6/2571815_InRange-KE-Arms-Brownells-WWSD-Ian-McCollum-Cav-Arms-the-Mk2-the-KP-15-and-GWACS.html You may also find used & NOS Mk2s roll marked Cav Arms, Armalite, and Sabre Defense. Those of you with Mk 1s, identifiable by the captured takedown pins, pay careful attention to the rear takedown pin detent hole on the right side. If it cracks there that may propagate down the side of the lower and cause it to fail. Also, very early Mk 1s had an issue with the buffer tube rear failing, hence the Mk2 using a carbine length buffer. KE Arms has also produced KP-15s for another company up north, whose name escapes me at the moment. Sabre Defense was the company that got nailed for customs shenanigans. That led ATF to investigate Cav Arms, and subsequently shut them down, much as they nearly shut down Stag. The Russell/Sinistral thread has been linked above if you care to wade through it. WarFairy's Charon was an early printable lower that included significant stock reinforcement, there are many others now, and the Charon could be printed in up to 4 small pieces and glued together IIRC. Sabre Defence was raided in February of 2010. |
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer: I never did as I thought they were ugly. I wish I had, they were piss cheap and the ultimate lightweight KISS lower. I've gottten much more into light-builds now, and those were pretty exceptional IIRC as light-build lowers. Durability I think was spotty though. But for the prices they were charging, I should have bought 1. I should have bought 5 of them. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By racer765: would not be surprised if Brownells sells out all current KP-15 and doesn't restock. the gwacs lawsuit and resulting political shitstorm had to put a bad stink on the products. I have 2 KP-15, solid products, no issues. they are the only current production monolithic polymer lowers I think. I threw together a 5.56 upper with the surplus Bushmaster pencil barrel that CDNN Sports is selling for $80 and it balances nicely. when I put a government profile upper on it, cg was about 2" in front of the pivot pin, felt goofy and front heavy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By racer765: Originally Posted By joekizanyu: Originally Posted By stgdz: Originally Posted By WesJanson: Originally Posted By Jupiter7: Have the sabre defense one, talk about double ATF whammy Built as lightweight P&W 14.5 beater iron sighted gun https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/423396/IMG_2003_jpeg-3190886.JPG At one point those were getting blown out at 5/$100....hard to pass up a stack of lowers for less than a BCG. O_o Ke arms is $64 at Brownells now That's less than a bcg and certainly tempting. would not be surprised if Brownells sells out all current KP-15 and doesn't restock. the gwacs lawsuit and resulting political shitstorm had to put a bad stink on the products. I have 2 KP-15, solid products, no issues. they are the only current production monolithic polymer lowers I think. I threw together a 5.56 upper with the surplus Bushmaster pencil barrel that CDNN Sports is selling for $80 and it balances nicely. when I put a government profile upper on it, cg was about 2" in front of the pivot pin, felt goofy and front heavy. You mean the lawsuit against them by an anti-gun company, that tried to sue on insanely thin Intellectual Property grounds, solely because they were selling ARs that were an improvement over a non-patented design, whose producer the anti-gun company had bought the name of? The one that got large chunks tossed out, including the parts naming Brownells and a few others as defendants? I don't like some of Karl's opinions and alignments (not that it means anything, I'm literally a nobody posting from a goofy username on the Internet), but the suit was obvious BS from the jump. Come to think of it, a quick check of KE Arms's social media says 4/15 was supposed to be the start of the civil trial on the few remaining matters. Granted, that update was posted 11NOV2023. |
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Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh
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Originally Posted By jimhoff: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/171676/IMG_4075_jpg-3193059.JPG 71 ounces with that crap on it View Quote |
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"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do."
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Originally Posted By juan223: Leftists may not want us/everyone to have access to the 2nd Amendment but Russell sure does. View Quote And just to show people either tell Karl about what's posted here or he still browses the forum: Attached File Click To View Spoiler But the right to disagree or not support what Karl supports is punishable by death according to his posts on his own social media:
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"Little shaken babies and drunkards seem to all agree, once the show gets started its bound to be a sight to see"
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I have had one since 2008. It has had several different upper halves, but I am fairly settled with the latest one, which has been on it for the last 11 years.
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If I edited the post above it's more than likely because I suck at typing. If I didn't, I was either in too big of a hurry or just missed it.
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