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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:36:30 AM EDT
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:37:45 AM EDT
[#1]
I guess a rimfire is not an AR?
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:44:03 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Red-Bucket-98: I guess a rimfire is not an AR? "As configured"  
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OH, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:47:58 AM EDT
[#3]
Am I just drunk, or does that mean a standard bolt would drop right in? Well, I am drunk, but my stupid question stands.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:49:37 AM EDT
[#4]
Is it a 22lr barrel or 5.56?
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OH, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:53:05 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tspike: Is it a 22lr barrel or 5.56? |
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USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:53:48 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tspike: Is it a 22lr barrel or 5.56? What's the difference? |
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USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:54:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RockolaM1]
[#7]
Since the .22LR bolt has a 5.56 chamber adapter, it sure looks like with a normal bolt and mag you'd have a normal AR. I bet most CA FFL's wouldn't want to transfer it.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:55:42 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tspike: Is it a 22lr barrel or 5.56? Look at that bolt That barrel is chambered for a .223 case It also says 1:7 twist I’m betting that gun is just a regular 6920 with a .22 conversion |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 2:00:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RLR350]
[#9]
Gas tube in place?
ETA: Yeah, it looks like they just swapped the bolt and other than that it’s a regular M4 6920. Legal in Ca because it’s a rimfire so none of the assault rifle nonsense applies |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 2:02:43 AM EDT
[#10]
I guess as long as you dont have a 5.56/.223 complete BC in the residence you're gtg?
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Posted: 3/29/2024 2:16:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RLR350]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tspike: I guess as long as you dont have a 5.56/.223 complete BC in the residence you're gtg? No, it doesn’t matter. Having another bolt in the house doesn’t make the .22 illegal. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 2:25:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 797hp: Look at that bolt That barrel is chambered for a .223 case It also says 1:7 twist I’m betting that gun is just a regular 6920 with a .22 conversion God bless you colt 
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USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 2:29:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Trollslayer]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PolarBear416: What's the difference? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PolarBear416: Originally Posted By tspike: Is it a 22lr barrel or 5.56? What's the difference? The difference is that a 22LR rimfire barrel has smaller land & groove dimensions which would make shooting 223 Rem dangerous. 22LR = 0.217" / 0.222" (diameters for lands / grooves) 223 Rem = 0.219" / 0.224" It certainly looks like a centerfire rifle with a 22LR conversion kit dropped in. Let's assume it is a regular AR barrel. Set up as a rimfire rifle, it is 100% legal to sell, own and shoot. There is no problem owning a centerfire bolt that fits. Assuming the barrel has that 0.224" bore and has a gas port and gas tube, if the owner wants to shoot centerfire ammo, he has to - * Have a fixed magazine that holds <10 rounds OR * Remove the pistol grip * Remove the flash hider * Pin the stock so it does not telescope Even in its collapsed condition, the rifle is more than the legally required minimum of 30". If there is no gas system, it can legally be used as a manually-operated, magazine fed, centerfire rifle; or as a single shot rifle. You just have to know the laws and configure the rifle in a legal manner. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 4:53:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Jodan1776]
[#14]
There's also this Australian rifle to consider. In fact, it was featured in a recent arfcom thread; I believe the video was about shooting pest kangaroos.
Pump action AR - legal in all 50 states  |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 9:55:42 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tspike: Is it a 22lr barrel or 5.56? Bolt carrier is the clue |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 9:57:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockolaM1: Since the .22LR bolt has a 5.56 chamber adapter, it sure looks like with a normal bolt and mag you'd have a normal AR. I bet most CA FFL's wouldn't want to transfer it. Why not? Most kali shops have nuetered EBRs anyway. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 10:02:37 AM EDT
[#17]
Colt factory or did AU just buy 5.56 6920s and aftermarket .22 bcg and mags?
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:17:12 AM EDT
[#18]
Since they say it can't be converted to centerfire, maybe no locking lugs on the barrel?
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USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:23:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Inneedofhelp]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jodan1776: There's also this Australian rifle to consider. In fact, it was featured in a recent arfcom thread; I believe the video was about shooting pest kangaroos. Pump action AR - legal in all 50 states https://i.imgur.com/oFuYnHP.jpg That thing is ugly. The Troy .223 pump action rifle looks better, but years ago I heard they had issues with them.  The stock on that Troy rifle leaves something to be desired when it comes to looks. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:23:42 AM EDT
[#20]
A 6920 with a conversion kit?
Based Colt 
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:30:15 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tspike: I guess as long as you dont have a 5.56/.223 complete BC in the residence you're gtg? 
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:32:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HDLS]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockolaM1: Since the .22LR bolt has a 5.56 chamber adapter, it sure looks like with a normal bolt and mag you'd have a normal AR. I bet most CA FFL's wouldn't want to transfer it. 
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:32:42 AM EDT
[#23]
CZ Colt may be best Colt.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:34:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: StevenH]
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockolaM1: Since the .22LR bolt has a 5.56 chamber adapter, it sure looks like with a normal bolt and mag you'd have a normal AR. I bet most CA FFL's wouldn't want to transfer it. To be an AW in California it must be semi automatic and center fire. Since this is Rimfire it’s not an AW. The easiest way to make any AR California compliment it to separate the upper and the lower. It’s no longer semiautomatic. Cal DOJ has said this is a compliance option. CALDOJ doesn’t care about the ease of conversion |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:35:39 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Red-Bucket-98: I guess a rimfire is not an AR? 
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:36:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tspike: I guess as long as you dont have a 5.56/.223 complete BC in the residence you're gtg? There’s no constructive possession of AW in California law. You can have a complete upper and complete lower seperated in the same box and it’s not an AW |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:37:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: A 6920 with a conversion kit? Based Colt That was my thought. From the pic it just looks like a 6920 with the CMMG conversion kit.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:38:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HDLS]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By motoguzzi: Since they say it can't be converted to centerfire, maybe no locking lugs on the barrel? Where did it say that?  It says "as configured" it can't fire centerfire ammunition. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:41:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: NorCalRT]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevenH: To be an AW in California it must be semi automatic and center fire. Since this is Rimfire it’s not an AW. The easiest way to make any AR California compliment it to separate the upper and the lower. It’s no longer semiautomatic. Cal DOJ has said this is a compliance option. CALDOJ doesn’t care about the ease of conversion Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevenH: Originally Posted By RockolaM1: Since the .22LR bolt has a 5.56 chamber adapter, it sure looks like with a normal bolt and mag you'd have a normal AR. I bet most CA FFL's wouldn't want to transfer it. To be an AW in California it must be semi automatic and center fire. Since this is Rimfire it’s not an AW. The easiest way to make any AR California compliment it to separate the upper and the lower. It’s no longer semiautomatic. Cal DOJ has said this is a compliance option. CALDOJ doesn’t care about the ease of conversion Yup, the 22 conversion kit is a fun way to get around it. But any company can simply just separate the lower and upper and send it (assuming lower isnt banned by name) and you are compliant. No one fucking cares here, run your shit how you want. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:41:46 AM EDT
[#30]
Arms Unlimited is a good company. They were one of the first to sell and ship magazines during magazine "freedom week".
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:43:18 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By motoguzzi: Since they say it can't be converted to centerfire, maybe no locking lugs on the barrel? where does it say that? |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:49:39 AM EDT
[#32]
Wait until GD finds out about Franklin Armory
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:04:43 PM EDT
[#33]
Over a decade ago Arfcom preceded Colt with it's gun o' the year 22 LR (made by Spider).
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:05:16 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PolarBear416: What's the difference? .001. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:05:44 PM EDT
[#35]
All ARs are made for California.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:12:08 PM EDT
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:14:22 PM EDT
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If CA only knew the havoc I've wrought with a .22.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:26:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:39:46 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tspike: Is it a 22lr barrel or 5.56? |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:09:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:25:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 797hp: Look at that bolt That barrel is chambered for a .223 case It also says 1:7 twist I’m betting that gun is just a regular 6920 with a .22 conversion Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 797hp: Originally Posted By tspike: Is it a 22lr barrel or 5.56? Look at that bolt That barrel is chambered for a .223 case It also says 1:7 twist I’m betting that gun is just a regular 6920 with a .22 conversion That's what it looks like to me. That's a standard barrel, and chamber. That's an M4 with a .22LR bolt adaptor. I like it 
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:33:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: iggy1337]
[#42]
Double post
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:35:34 PM EDT
[#43]
I used to have thatt exact .22 adapter in the 1990s from Ceiner.
Even had the dinky thin .22 mag welded in to a standard mag to make it not look like a barrel of aids infected dicks |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:47:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m200maker: Looks like it has the CMMG conversion kit with but with 10 rd mags. PSA won't ship this to CA They will ship this one https://palmettostatearmory.com/cmmg-ar-15-into-22lr-conversion-kit-22ba62f.html |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:55:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg: That conversion kit has the 5.56 chamber adapter instead of the collar for a 22 barrel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg: Originally Posted By tspike: Is it a 22lr barrel or 5.56? I should clarify I was asking what was stamped on the barrel, I know what a conversion bolt inset is, I have one. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 2:00:56 PM EDT
[#46]
What’s not to like?
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Posted: 3/29/2024 3:28:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HDLS]
[#47]
Some of you should learn to read....
"Same Colt M4 mil-spec rifle, configured in .22LR" It's a Colt 6920 with a .22LR bolt and a .22LR magazine. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 8:37:54 PM EDT
[#48]
FCA
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OH, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 9:12:40 PM EDT
[#49]
Hmmm
A Piston gas tube replacement on a DI rifle would be legal with all the evil features. It’s just a manually operated rifle then. Of course a DI bolt would just drop in. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 9:23:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DanishM1Garand: Hmmm A Piston gas tube replacement on a DI rifle would be legal with all the evil features. It’s just a manually operated rifle then. Of course a DI bolt would just drop in. I think you're talking about a carrier, rather than a bolt or a gas tube. |
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