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Posted: 3/12/2024 1:57:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boom_Stick: I dunno, sounds a bit like some L ron hubbard scifi Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boom_Stick: Originally Posted By Herc: I disagree. Your statement about Lazar and soul containers is a perfect example. The spiritual/paranormal and extra dimensional aspect goes back to at least the 50's. ....... Hubbard took some true concepts and turned them into a batshit religion. We are eternal beings taking a spin in a temporary physical vehicle in a physical world with constraints. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:09:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Herc: I disagree. Your statement about Lazar and soul containers is a perfect example. The spiritual/paranormal and extra dimensional aspect goes back to at least the 50's. Orfeo Angelucci talked about it in his book "The Secret of the Saucers" Earth is a prison planet for the souls that lost the war that destroyed our former planet between Mars and Jupiter, we get reincarnated until we find enlightenment and work off our karmic debt. Many "new" UFO ideas go back to Orfeo. Drones custom built for a task and controlled by a mothership with a tractor beam and then destroyed when the mission is over, that's from Orfeo. Tractor beams, cloaking devices, inertial damping, holographic view screens and more can be traced back to that book. I think it's simply older less well know info being passed off as new. No different from shows like Stargate that had excellent research departments and included a lot of less well know info into the show. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Herc: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Citizen904: I’ve shared a few of the questions/ subjects and will transmit any response I get the green light to share. @Citizen904 Thank you, and THANK ROSS VERY MUCH! He's brought more experts and details to light than anybody else reporting which I've seen. Most all the common names we're seeing now were mentioned by Ross before they became Big Names, and he's not afraid of being burnt at the stake (quite literally would be if it was the 1600s yet), we Really appreciate it! We've learned more about this topic just in the past 5 years than the previous 30 combined. Especially the spiritual/paranormal aspects which were only mentioned a bit out of context (Lazar and "Soul containers" statement was out of left field). Now more statements are falling together and we're seeing who has been telling us good information instead of making information up to make anybody interested considered looney toons. He's more than welcome in this forum, we don't need to know his username, some other big names are around here and navigate fine as long as they stay out of GD. I disagree. Your statement about Lazar and soul containers is a perfect example. The spiritual/paranormal and extra dimensional aspect goes back to at least the 50's. Orfeo Angelucci talked about it in his book "The Secret of the Saucers" Earth is a prison planet for the souls that lost the war that destroyed our former planet between Mars and Jupiter, we get reincarnated until we find enlightenment and work off our karmic debt. Many "new" UFO ideas go back to Orfeo. Drones custom built for a task and controlled by a mothership with a tractor beam and then destroyed when the mission is over, that's from Orfeo. Tractor beams, cloaking devices, inertial damping, holographic view screens and more can be traced back to that book. I think it's simply older less well know info being passed off as new. No different from shows like Stargate that had excellent research departments and included a lot of less well know info into the show. I should have said "condensed and collated". With everything going on the net, things like the full Lazar interviews weren't available in the 90s, only stories about his interview with excerpts and mocking how silly he was. Now we have well known Silicon Valley and Harvard professors and scientists laying out which ancillary information goes with each event, why that information is important, and the same for other events from 1947 to present. Prior to that we would here 5 different snippets that covered 2-3 encounters and weren't given all of the info needed to collate them into a single event. The sources that did were mocked and we were told it was all a lie and not to bother anyway. So, I guess it is the change in atmosphere on the topic in the past 5 years that has changed more than the information out there, I used non precise wording. Ross is a BIG part of why the atmosphere has changed, so the idea remains the same, he's collected information which has helped us discover who the liars were that were pretending to inform us (all of MSM) and gave us enough info to find some of the grifters and more liars like Doty. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:44:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Citizen904: Have you guys seen “UFO CHRONICLES: The War Room: With Robert O. Dean”? He goes into detail about a huge UFO study conducted by/ for NATO in the 60’s that echoes much of what Bob Lazar said he was briefed on in Nevada in the late 80’s. I have not seen that or even heard of it. Is that NATO study available at all…? |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 4:27:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: I have not seen that or even heard of it. Is that NATO study available at all…? It's on Audible by Robert and Anthony Miles Narrated by Robert O. Dean, but a little spendy for a 1hr short book at $12.23 I think that is the one he is speaking about anyway, but it might be an abridged version? (Doesn't say abridged so not sure) |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 6:25:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: I have not seen that or even heard of it. Is that NATO study available at all…? I think you can watch the video on Amazon for something like $3.99. The report itself was said to have only had a few copies made and supposedly it was ordered destroyed. But it’s highly compelling information if true. |
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Posted: 3/17/2024 8:09:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boom_Stick: I dunno, sounds a bit like some L ron hubbard scifi |
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Posted: 3/17/2024 11:57:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dino: It's gonna be funny if the Scientologists are correct Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dino: Originally Posted By Boom_Stick: I dunno, sounds a bit like some L ron hubbard scifi That would then chain back to Stranger in a Strange Land by Heinlein. It had the "You are God" message where our bodies were mere temporary vessels and powers beyond imagination were there if one had the right discipline to access them (telepathy, psychokinesis, levitation, etc). That spawned a Martian Religion in San Francisco. It made a big enough flash in the pan that L. Ron Hubbard bet Heinlein he could make a better religion than the one outlined in SIASL and Dianetics was the result. Then he took it to the full profit side the same way Heinlein depicted big religions/churches in SIASL though the Martian religion was about having no money or possessions, they ended up with too much money because they didn't ask for any. TL;DR Hubbard Pinched Heinlein and stole story with just a twist to win a bet and become a millionaire while he was at it. |
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Posted: 3/18/2024 12:24:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Herc: I disagree. Your statement about Lazar and soul containers is a perfect example. The spiritual/paranormal and extra dimensional aspect goes back to at least the 50's. Orfeo Angelucci talked about it in his book "The Secret of the Saucers" Earth is a prison planet for the souls that lost the war that destroyed our former planet between Mars and Jupiter, we get reincarnated until we find enlightenment and work off our karmic debt. Many "new" UFO ideas go back to Orfeo. Drones custom built for a task and controlled by a mothership with a tractor beam and then destroyed when the mission is over, that's from Orfeo. Tractor beams, cloaking devices, inertial damping, holographic view screens and more can be traced back to that book. I think it's simply older less well know info being passed off as new. No different from shows like Stargate that had excellent research departments and included a lot of less well know info into the show. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Herc: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Citizen904: I’ve shared a few of the questions/ subjects and will transmit any response I get the green light to share. @Citizen904 Thank you, and THANK ROSS VERY MUCH! He's brought more experts and details to light than anybody else reporting which I've seen. Most all the common names we're seeing now were mentioned by Ross before they became Big Names, and he's not afraid of being burnt at the stake (quite literally would be if it was the 1600s yet), we Really appreciate it! We've learned more about this topic just in the past 5 years than the previous 30 combined. Especially the spiritual/paranormal aspects which were only mentioned a bit out of context (Lazar and "Soul containers" statement was out of left field). Now more statements are falling together and we're seeing who has been telling us good information instead of making information up to make anybody interested considered looney toons. He's more than welcome in this forum, we don't need to know his username, some other big names are around here and navigate fine as long as they stay out of GD. I disagree. Your statement about Lazar and soul containers is a perfect example. The spiritual/paranormal and extra dimensional aspect goes back to at least the 50's. Orfeo Angelucci talked about it in his book "The Secret of the Saucers" Earth is a prison planet for the souls that lost the war that destroyed our former planet between Mars and Jupiter, we get reincarnated until we find enlightenment and work off our karmic debt. Many "new" UFO ideas go back to Orfeo. Drones custom built for a task and controlled by a mothership with a tractor beam and then destroyed when the mission is over, that's from Orfeo. Tractor beams, cloaking devices, inertial damping, holographic view screens and more can be traced back to that book. I think it's simply older less well know info being passed off as new. No different from shows like Stargate that had excellent research departments and included a lot of less well know info into the show. I don't understand the math behind reincarnation. The population continues to grow. One would think that it would decline as people reach enlightenment. |
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Posted: 3/18/2024 1:02:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Cypher214]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: I don't understand the math behind reincarnation. The population continues to grow. One would think that it would decline as people reach enlightenment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Herc: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Citizen904: I've shared a few of the questions/ subjects and will transmit any response I get the green light to share. @Citizen904 Thank you, and THANK ROSS VERY MUCH! He's brought more experts and details to light than anybody else reporting which I've seen. Most all the common names we're seeing now were mentioned by Ross before they became Big Names, and he's not afraid of being burnt at the stake (quite literally would be if it was the 1600s yet), we Really appreciate it! We've learned more about this topic just in the past 5 years than the previous 30 combined. Especially the spiritual/paranormal aspects which were only mentioned a bit out of context (Lazar and "Soul containers" statement was out of left field). Now more statements are falling together and we're seeing who has been telling us good information instead of making information up to make anybody interested considered looney toons. He's more than welcome in this forum, we don't need to know his username, some other big names are around here and navigate fine as long as they stay out of GD. I disagree. Your statement about Lazar and soul containers is a perfect example. The spiritual/paranormal and extra dimensional aspect goes back to at least the 50's. Orfeo Angelucci talked about it in his book "The Secret of the Saucers" Earth is a prison planet for the souls that lost the war that destroyed our former planet between Mars and Jupiter, we get reincarnated until we find enlightenment and work off our karmic debt. Many "new" UFO ideas go back to Orfeo. Drones custom built for a task and controlled by a mothership with a tractor beam and then destroyed when the mission is over, that's from Orfeo. Tractor beams, cloaking devices, inertial damping, holographic view screens and more can be traced back to that book. I think it's simply older less well know info being passed off as new. No different from shows like Stargate that had excellent research departments and included a lot of less well know info into the show. I don't understand the math behind reincarnation. The population continues to grow. One would think that it would decline as people reach enlightenment. What we refer to as "reincarnation" isn't limited to human-to-human spiritual exchange. The higher level consciousness isn't confined to one species or location. Your last trip in this reality might have been in Zeta Reticuli. . . |
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Posted: 3/18/2024 1:39:35 PM EDT
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I think there are a lot of people being born without souls.
Maybe has always been this way, but it sure looks that way now. |
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Posted: 3/18/2024 2:07:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Cypher214]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: I think there are a lot of people being born without souls. Maybe has always been this way, but it sure looks that way now. I disagree. What we're seeing is a societal shift, it has nothing to do with consciousness/soul. We're finally starting to shift back toward a wider acceptance of the spiritual, which is how humanity perceived things until religion was turned into a control mechanism and the message became "Meditation is bad, you can't talk to the higher entity without a priest/rabbi/etc and we're going to charge you money to make sure you stay out of hell. Just trust us." |
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Posted: 3/18/2024 2:15:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: I think there are a lot of people being born without souls. Maybe has always been this way, but it sure looks that way now.  we trusted that they never cloned anything more advanced than Dolly, didn’t we?
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Posted: 3/18/2024 7:12:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher214: What we refer to as "reincarnation" isn't limited to human-to-human spiritual exchange. The higher level consciousness isn't confined to one species or location. Your last trip in this reality might have been in Zeta Reticuli. . . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Herc: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Citizen904: I've shared a few of the questions/ subjects and will transmit any response I get the green light to share. @Citizen904 Thank you, and THANK ROSS VERY MUCH! He's brought more experts and details to light than anybody else reporting which I've seen. Most all the common names we're seeing now were mentioned by Ross before they became Big Names, and he's not afraid of being burnt at the stake (quite literally would be if it was the 1600s yet), we Really appreciate it! We've learned more about this topic just in the past 5 years than the previous 30 combined. Especially the spiritual/paranormal aspects which were only mentioned a bit out of context (Lazar and "Soul containers" statement was out of left field). Now more statements are falling together and we're seeing who has been telling us good information instead of making information up to make anybody interested considered looney toons. He's more than welcome in this forum, we don't need to know his username, some other big names are around here and navigate fine as long as they stay out of GD. I disagree. Your statement about Lazar and soul containers is a perfect example. The spiritual/paranormal and extra dimensional aspect goes back to at least the 50's. Orfeo Angelucci talked about it in his book "The Secret of the Saucers" Earth is a prison planet for the souls that lost the war that destroyed our former planet between Mars and Jupiter, we get reincarnated until we find enlightenment and work off our karmic debt. Many "new" UFO ideas go back to Orfeo. Drones custom built for a task and controlled by a mothership with a tractor beam and then destroyed when the mission is over, that's from Orfeo. Tractor beams, cloaking devices, inertial damping, holographic view screens and more can be traced back to that book. I think it's simply older less well know info being passed off as new. No different from shows like Stargate that had excellent research departments and included a lot of less well know info into the show. I don't understand the math behind reincarnation. The population continues to grow. One would think that it would decline as people reach enlightenment. What we refer to as "reincarnation" isn't limited to human-to-human spiritual exchange. The higher level consciousness isn't confined to one species or location. Your last trip in this reality might have been in Zeta Reticuli. . . I hadn't considered that. Interesting. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 10:52:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher214: I disagree. What we're seeing is a societal shift, it has nothing to do with consciousness/soul. We're finally starting to shift back toward a wider acceptance of the spiritual, which is how humanity perceived things until religion was turned into a control mechanism and the message became "Meditation is bad, you can't talk to the higher entity without a priest/rabbi/etc and we're going to charge you money to make sure you stay out of hell. Just trust us." What control is the urban thug culture under? The cartels? None but personal riches. Maybe power over others. Lots have zero regard to death of others. Life has zero value, just the moment. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 12:08:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Cypher214]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: What control is the urban thug culture under? The cartels? None but personal riches. Maybe power over others. Lots have zero regard to death of others. Life has zero value, just the moment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Originally Posted By Cypher214: I disagree. What we're seeing is a societal shift, it has nothing to do with consciousness/soul. We're finally starting to shift back toward a wider acceptance of the spiritual, which is how humanity perceived things until religion was turned into a control mechanism and the message became "Meditation is bad, you can't talk to the higher entity without a priest/rabbi/etc and we're going to charge you money to make sure you stay out of hell. Just trust us." What control is the urban thug culture under? The cartels? None but personal riches. Maybe power over others. Lots have zero regard to death of others. Life has zero value, just the moment. The urban thug culture is a result of generational welfare combined with a cultural mindset of "if she gets pregnant, that's her problem." Man fucks woman, woman gets pregnant, man says "that ain't my problem", woman has baby because "abortion is wrong", woman goes on welfare, woman sees the child as a burden and treats him/her like shit, child lacks nurturing and guidance so turns to their friends which are going through the same thing, child is told they'll never amount to anything because of their lot in life, child hears the only way to make money is to become a criminal. Repeat for multiple generations. The problem has only been made worse by Democrat policies so, technically, they're the ones controlling it. Despite the thug culture problem, we are going through another Age of Enlightenment thanks to the hippies. People are realizing there may be more to psychedelics than "tripping balls". |
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