The world is a hard place.  If you can't provide for yourself, you either exist by the grace of others... or die.

Dammit.  The hobos will hop on trains and head north to GA with their bindles.
Its already getting bad enough here.  Hobos all over the place.

I think they should start fining people for giving panhandlers money.  Stop supporting that shit.  Drive them into the sea.

In our town, the hotels are also responsible for them.  The seedy hotels thrive off the hobos and the druggies.

Freedom only works with a certain kind of people and certain kind of moral society.

We have abandoned personal responsibility, moral behavior, self control, family and community.  We are a nation no longer capable of being free.

The only way back is through authoritarianism, enforcing laws that replace the above values.  This will continue until we become a society that is capable of being free again.  

Certainly a sad state of affairs, but we did it to ourselves.

Ah yes. SCOTUS has never reversed a decision before….. Or some changes could be made to the ADA by Congress.

We could call it Bartertown..

How about Andersonville

This isn’t going to make a whit of a difference to the Supreme Court regarding involuntary commitment of the insane, they may rule that this law is unconstitutional though.

Boy, I sure am glad conservatives didn't want this worthless asshole as president, lol.

I swear most conservatives must want to lose what's left of this country.

What did they do with them prior to socialists being in control?

Open the insane asylums again, problem solved.

You do realize that this law and the recent Florida social media laws aren’t conservative and are big government laws, don’t you?

More likely than not, they'll move on to more hospitable environs.

We're full, deal with your own garbage.

I am so fucking sick of homeless drug addicts that will never accomplish anything other than being a nuisance at best, and a danger at worst to normal people. What we need are mobile incinerators going around and picking them off the streets and disposing of them like the worthless trash they are.

We seriously need to start making it a habit for repub run states to straight up ignore unconstitutional rulings.

Scotus needs to learn to kick rocks when they try and operate outside their jurisdiction. Those jokers have been pulling that stuff since the 1700's.

Since it's the LEO who enforces this shit, how will we deal with them carrying out these unconstitutional rulings?

The people that run the PDs and the like are going to have to have their testicles drop and stop enforcing stuff that's blatantly unconstitional.

I believe things will have to get worse for the local pressure points on the departments to get acted on.

I had a buddy about 20 years ago that intentionally travelled to Japan to be homeless. He didn't speak Japanese. He had an apartment and savings here in the US. He just thought it would be a wild experience.

Six months seemed good enough for him, and he got held up in the UK on his way back, and deported so he didn't continue his vacation there.

I wish he would write a book about the experience.  

He's about the only person I would give a pass for, everyone else can get deported to San Francisco.

Yeah, maybe we need to give up a bunch of freedoms to maintain a civil society. Unfortunately guns are going to be on the list.

"Hey, things suck, let me do really bad things nobody should do to fix it" is the lying siren call of abusers who always take advantage of the deseperate and the suckers.

No, the fix is to give people what they deserve.

No more, no less.

But desperate people aren't known for making wise choices.

Tyrants are aware of this and take advantage of it.

let them sleep shit and piss in public places.....

There's really three kinds of homeless people:

First you have the situational homeless, which are mostly people in a tough spot for whatever reason and are in between housing. They're usually invisible because they end up living in their car or something and have a job, and it's just an expedient thing until they find a new place. Some people actually do this for fun or to save money and shower at a 24 hour gym or something, either way these people aren't an issue.

The second type are the street kids, mostly younger people doing it for lifestyle reasons. They often end up in lefty cities with temperate climates, and sleep in parks and do drugs. They fund themselves with begging, petty crime, and public assistance, and this is the group that really deserves the bulk of targeted, aggressive law enforcement because they're the ones most capable of either picking up and leaving for elsewhere, or choosing a less disruptive lifestyle.

The third are the ones that are just cooked in some way, and are the most complex issue to deal with. They're also the ones causing the most disruption and biggest drain of various public resources.  They range from ones that are sort-of put together and maybe even can hold some sort of menial job, to brain-melted schizos rotting in the streets. This is often the end stage of street kids that stay in that lifestyle too long and the drugs fried them, as well as normies with regular lives that got one-shotted one day by latent mental illness. These people are really tragic and don't deserve to be hated, but they also can't be allowed to destroy the quality of life for the rest of the responsible people living in the area. If they can't be treated or institutionalized in some matter, they need to be effectively confined to specific areas "skid row" the city to minimize the disruption they cause.

That's the stupidest thing I've read. Trespassing laws are enforced here. Now what I have seen. They will find a heavily wooded areas and camp in those areas until the property gets cleared. But there is no way they would be allowed to trespass on people's homes/properties. Now we have a law that protects properties against squatters allowing them to be removed without going through the courts. Florida is not NYC or other dumbass blue states. Hell all a person has to do is say they were attacked telling them to leave. Guess what happens then.

This is one of those problems you can't "solve", only ameliorate. The traditional solution is they learn to stay in skid row if they can't/won't straighten up, so at least the productive citizens that desire a good quality of life don't have to deal with them.

A sowell quote about there not being any neat and clean solutions, only partial trade offs ... comes to mind.

Or that phrase "stop trying to emmanentize the eschaton!"  (you can't have utopia on earth).

Let them live in your yard then

Yup.

If only we had more laws we could fix everything!

This is not the “conservative” approach in my opinion, but many conservatives get sucked into it if it addresses their pet peeves.

The homeless problem is a tricky one. There's so many totally whacked out crazies that will never under any circumstances get better. They've cooked their brain with drugs. People who think "oh they'll just have to go to a shelter to get clean" are delusional. Spend some time in DC and witness the street people and you'll see what I mean.

There's no good solution here so long as the fentanyl, meth, and heroin flow like piss down the gutter. You'd have to cut that tap off and then wait for a bunch of these people to literally die before an improvement happened.

Fly them to Martha Vineyards.

This. It’s will only get permanently better when the King of Kings and the Lord of lords comes to rule the nations with a rod of iron. Things will get better after the earth is purged.


1 Timothy 1:9
Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

I've see different type of homeless out here.


1. Homeless people that want to live on the streets and do not want any help. They enjoy living among the other homeless people. These are type of people who gave up on society and feel they are better off living on the streets. These groups help each other and form little homeless communities.

2. Mentally ill homeless people that are mentally ill or into heavy drugs (these are most dangerous type and have been know to attack and kill people for no reason)

3. Modern homeless. These are the new kind of homeless people that still have jobs and work every day, but no longer can afford to pay the high rents or mortgages and now live in their car, truck, van or motorhome. This category of homeless is the fastest growing out here that I see.

4. The shelter homeless. These are the people who no longer want to work or do anything in life and they take advantage of all the free services, free housing, free food, free everything. These homeless you can find living in free government provided tiny homes, paid apartments etc. These are the lazy homeless who don't give a fuck and just want to live a free life, but you get to pay for it.