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Posted: 4/22/2024 9:53:43 AM EDT
I did $4000 reseal on my 2019 120K miles Subaru outback and I was looking at some of the BS stuff I was at and since I I have four trips back to my Reserve Unit I didnt want to buy a new car that would add 10000 miles in the first year on a new car. Also I didnt want to grab the first car I saw that would make it when I talked things out with the wife and see if I need a third seat. We came to a decision of yes so her car can last three more years to give to the stepson for his first car.
I wanted a truck but I will look at other cars like maybe a hybrid or something but I have the opportunity to push on to a 2026 next year if I wait. I do not know. I really ironically I am looking at Korean (Kia/hyundi) hybrid SUVs because they have decent reviews and from what I was told they are using Toyota tech. The problem is I am also hoping car interest rates go down again. I have never paid more than 4.9% on rates on a car. 9% when I have expert (799 credit rating at this timE) credit is insane. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 9:58:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By aftac: I did $4000 reseal on my 2019 120K miles Subaru outback and I was looking at some of the BS stuff I was at and since I I have four trips back to my Reserve Unit I didnt want to buy a new car that would add 10000 miles in the first year on a new car. Also I didnt want to grab the first car I saw that would make it when I talked things out with the wife and see if I need a third seat. We came to a decision of yes so her car can last three more years to give to the stepson for his first car. I wanted a truck but I will look at other cars like maybe a hybrid or something but I have the opportunity to push on to a 2026 next year if I wait. I do not know. I really ironically I am looking at Korean (Kia/hyundi) hybrid SUVs because they have decent reviews and from what I was told they are using Toyota tech. The problem is I am also hoping car interest rates go down again. I have never paid more than 4.9% on rates on a car. 9% when I have expert (799 credit rating at this timE) credit is insane. WTF is a reseal? |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 9:59:27 AM EDT
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What does “reseal” mean? Was your engine leaking super bad from many gaskets and engine seals and they pulled the engine out to just replace those?
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Posted: 4/22/2024 9:59:27 AM EDT
[#3]
Basically rebuild the engine.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:00:17 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bogdan: WTF is a reseal? This |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:00:50 AM EDT
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I read that 4 times and still dont know wtf is going on.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:00:57 AM EDT
[#6]
wat
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:00:58 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SideCarGT: What does “reseal” mean? Was your engine leaking super bad from many gaskets and engine seals and they pulled the engine out to just replace those? Correct. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:01:04 AM EDT
[#8]
19 with 120k and it already needed a rebuild?
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ND, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:01:05 AM EDT
[#9]
Umm.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:01:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Shootindave]
[#10]
What motor and what was leaking? Was it the main rear seal? Usually it is just the spark tube seals and valve covers. Maybe coolant crossover pipe O rings. Subarus use oil, so needing to add oil is not the same as it leaking oil. Seems suspect that it needed a full reseal.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:01:41 AM EDT
[#11]
I don't know cars, but the responses so far aren't exactly positive.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:04:18 AM EDT
[#12]
Corrected for inflation, I've spent as much on repairing a car to get another 5 years out of it.
My assumption, being Subaru, is that it had oil and coolant mixing, and this wasn't just drips on the driveway and having to add some oil? |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:05:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Ridgerunner9876]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Col_Sanders: I read that 4 times and still dont know wtf is going on. I'm glad I wasnt the only one. I think I get the gist. OP, was there oil on the ground or did you just have to add oil more often than you thought you should. At 120k, you have another 80-100k basically trouble free miles. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:06:55 AM EDT
[#14]
If I'm tearing a motor down to the tune of $4k it better have new bearings too in which case it would just be called a "re-build" and not a "re-seal".
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:07:37 AM EDT
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I think the OP had $4K worth of work (whatever a "reseal" is) done on his existing vehicle but now he is wondering if that was a good investment or not. That is all I can get out of the rambling.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:07:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bogdan]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aftac: Basically rebuild the engine. Rebuild or not? Subaru crate engines can be had very cheap |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:07:48 AM EDT
[#17]
No offense OP, but "Reseal" sounds kind of like a BS name invented to extract maximum $ from a customer.
Specific seals and gaskets should be named in any job. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:08:19 AM EDT
[#18]
I heard Subs have oil use issues, Does a reseal fix that? Doesn't make much sense
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:08:49 AM EDT
[#19]
I'd be pissed if my 5 year-old car needed four grand worth of work.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:09:17 AM EDT
[#20]
So what's the question
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:09:53 AM EDT
[#21]
OP, if you paid $4k to pull your motor and only refreshed the gaskets you screwed up...
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:10:34 AM EDT
[#22]
I would assume by reseal, they pulled and replaced all the gaskets and seals on the engine. I wasn't there so I can speak to that price being fair or not, but $4k is less than a few months of new car payments. If they did a good job, and you like the car and it's back to being leak free, seems okay to me.
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USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:10:59 AM EDT
[#23]
Should have gotten the TruCoat.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:11:09 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancat: So what's the question We aren't quite sure at this point. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:11:57 AM EDT
[#25]
This is why people buy Toyotas and Hondas ..To not spend $4000 on a reseal
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:12:00 AM EDT
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AR, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:12:28 AM EDT
[#27]
Based on the title only because I simply have no idea wtf the post is about......
Yes. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:13:19 AM EDT
[#28]
Subies sure like to leak.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:13:42 AM EDT
[#29]
A reseal is when you replace every gasket/seal in the engine.
And $4k? Did they do the head gaskets as well? I did my own on my ‘99 Outback EJ25D, and only had about $350 in parts and had it out and in over a day. Yes, the Subie Boxers sip a little oil. On mine, the difference between “FULL” and “ADD” on the dipstick is 14oz. The pan holds 4 qts. Mine uses about a qt every 5k. Cold starts, especially below zero, it might sip a bit more during warm up. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:14:14 AM EDT
[#30]
Ummmmm lol 😂
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:15:17 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By runcible: I'd be pissed if my 5 year-old car needed four grand worth of work.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:15:31 AM EDT
[#32]
Subaru uses horizontally opposed engines and the nature of H engines is they leak from every orfice. Resealing a Subaru isn't uncommon and requires removing the engine. Most of GD is incapable of understanding this because they bought their first car in 1921.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:18:31 AM EDT
[#33]
$4000 at $32 for 5 quart jugs of oil yields 125 jugs or 625 quarts.
If you're adding 1 quart every 1000 miles that takes you to 625000 miles if the condition doesn't worsen. Or, let's say a jug is needed every 3000 miles, that takes the vehicle 375000 miles. Both well past the day the vehicle has been traded off. The same conclusion applies at $40 per jug oil. |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:18:53 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STL_Nik: Subaru uses horizontally opposed engines and the nature of H engines is they leak from every orfice. Resealing a Subaru isn't uncommon and requires removing the engine. Most of GD is incapable of understanding this because they bought their first car in 1921. Dude - 4K was too much to charge him for that. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:19:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Eight_Ring]
[#35]
Subarus have Boxer engines.
The head gaskets are a known weak spot in the engineering of certain models years. They pull the engine, seperate the cylinder heads, and install new gaskets. Basically it is all the work of an engine swap and rebuild. I don't know if $4K is a good price on that or not. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:19:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lone_Eagle: A reseal is when you replace every gasket/seal in the engine. And $4k? Did they do the head gaskets as well? I did my own on my '99 Outback EJ25D, and only had about $350 in parts and had it out and in over a day. Yes, the Subie Boxers sip a little oil. On mine, the difference between "FULL" and "ADD" on the dipstick is 14oz. The pan holds 4 qts. Mine uses about a qt every 5k. Cold starts, especially below zero, it might sip a bit more during warm up. Still interested in OP's issue for a reseal. Was the seals leaking oil, or the engine using oil? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:20:17 AM EDT
[#37]
If it's leaking oil that means it has oil in it. 🤷♂️
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:20:47 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eight_Ring: Subarus have Boxer engines. The head gaskets are a known weak spot in the engineering of certain models years. They pull the engine, seperate the cylinder heads, and install new gaskets. Basically it is all the work of an engien swap and rebuild. I don't know if $4K is a good price on that or not. That problem was solved a long time ago. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:21:06 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STL_Nik: Subaru uses horizontally opposed engines and the nature of H engines is they leak from every orfice. Resealing a Subaru isn't uncommon and requires removing the engine. Most of GD is incapable of understanding this because they bought their first car in 1921. We have 4 subarus from 2009 to 2024. They use oil. I dont see any leaks. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:21:33 AM EDT
[#40]
coolant seals were leaking and some oil was leaking.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:21:34 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JASIRR: If it's leaking oil that means it has oil in it. 🤷♂️ Dont BMW owners have to pay a subscription fee for the driveway low oil indicator stain? |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:21:41 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TStick: Dude - 4K was too much to charge him for that. No it's not. Parts and labor $4k to remove an engine reseal and reinstall is not obscene. I've been a tech for almost 20 years |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:22:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: maslin02]
[#43]
Taking an engine out for us is ~$5500 minimum, plus parts and whatever actual work you need done.
$4k is a steal, depending on what was done. You did not get a “rebuild”. Did you get headgaskets? Probably headgaskets, rear main, front crank seal, cam seals, valve cover seals, and reseal the front cover. Probably pushing $15k at my shop, but we don’t work on Subarus. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:23:06 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STL_Nik: Subaru uses horizontally opposed engines and the nature of H engines is they leak from every orfice. Resealing a Subaru isn't uncommon and requires removing the engine. Most of GD is incapable of understanding this because they bought their first car in 1921. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:24:33 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ridgerunner9876: We have 4 subarus from 2009 to 2024. They use oil. I dont see any leaks. 
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AL, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:24:37 AM EDT
[#46]
I am on my 2nd Subaru, one of which was heavily modified and I have no fucking idea what the OP is even on about.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:24:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HDLS]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STL_Nik: Subaru uses horizontally opposed engines and the nature of H engines is they leak from every orfice. Resealing a Subaru isn't uncommon and requires removing the engine. Most of GD is incapable of understanding this because they bought their first car in 1921. Or maybe, most of GD has never owned a Subaru and DRGAF about Subarus.  Plus needing to spend that amount of money on a relatively young car seems redonkulous. |
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ND, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:25:33 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STL_Nik: Subaru uses horizontally opposed engines and the nature of H engines is they leak from every orfice. Resealing a Subaru isn't uncommon and requires removing the engine. Most of GD is incapable of understanding this because they bought their first car in 1921. Lol.. You aren't wrong. But 4k is pretty ridiculous. We have never charged that doing full on engine swaps on Subarus. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:25:39 AM EDT
[#49]
I haven't had to reseal my 2005 Neon at 170k.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:26:25 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dopple: Well, that sure is a reason to avoid them. You might wanna stay away from honda 1.5T engines too. |
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