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Posted: 5/13/2024 9:05:25 PM EDT
[#1]
It’s not bad.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 9:07:39 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks Tacoma ish. Not bad looking , but let's see how the engine holds up! So… a smaller diesel like everyone asks for? Body on frame and not unibody? We’ll see. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 9:10:08 PM EDT
[#3]
I like it alot.
But...Not coming to the USA. Small Turbo-Diesels are realistically and practically forbidden here. How many years did we have to wait for the Ranger Raptor to come stateside? 10 years? Reviews called the US version "a nice balance of mid-size sensibility". Yes, indeed "sensibility" is high on the list of what Raptor buyers are really after, amirite? Yawn. Can't have anything TOO exciting in the US mid-size truck space! |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 9:10:24 PM EDT
[#4]
Kia’s are trash.
Oh wait. Shit.   
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Posted: 5/13/2024 9:23:21 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Kia’s are trash. Oh wait. Shit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/42361/IMG_2361-3187996.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/42361/IMG_2479-3213790.jpg I bet you get a free biscuit when you whip that sweet ride through the Popeyes drive thru |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 9:25:05 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet you get a free biscuit when you whip that sweet ride through the Popeyes drive thru Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Kia’s are trash. Oh wait. Shit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/42361/IMG_2361-3187996.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/42361/IMG_2479-3213790.jpg I bet you get a free biscuit when you whip that sweet ride through the Popeyes drive thru You’re goddamn right I do! Except they miss the window as I do 87mph through the drive-through.  Turbskies doing katsssssssss |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 9:39:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2024 9:47:57 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, they fixed their logo so their single-mom segment doesn't think it's KN anymore, huh? I don’t know what that means. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 9:50:09 PM EDT
[#9]
looks good but how many motor replacements come with it.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 9:58:08 PM EDT
[#10]
I would check the tailgate, the bed, and drive it first.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 10:03:03 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not surprisingly, there's no plan for them to be sold in the U.S. I figured as much when I saw "turbo diesel". Chicken tax strikes again |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 10:10:12 PM EDT
[#12]
I have zero desire to own a diesel in the US.
I have zero desire to own a Kia. They’ve come a long way since they first showed up in the US but their QC has a long way to go. I will admit their design team seems to be pretty on point these days. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 10:12:40 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Chicken tax strikes again Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not surprisingly, there's no plan for them to be sold in the U.S. I figured as much when I saw "turbo diesel". Chicken tax strikes again Chicken tax isn’t keeping small diesels out of the US market. Costs to be EPA certified and a lack of desire for small truck owners to shell that kind of money out does. I’m sure they could do what Ford does with the transit and Subaru did with the Brat. Bolt a set of cheap hard plastic seats in back, call it a passenger vehicle and pull the seats after import. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 10:15:07 PM EDT
[#14]
Id never buy a Kia personally, let alone their truck.
It looks sharp though not going to lie. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 10:16:47 PM EDT
[#15]
I dig it. Looks better than all the other small(ish) trucks so far. Still not paying $500/mo for Kia, much less that thing, which would probably be over a $1000/month for 8 years all kitted out like that.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 10:27:23 PM EDT
[#16]
Looks good. It it makes it to market looking mostly like that then they may have a hot seller.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 10:35:16 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Chicken tax isn’t keeping small diesels out of the US market. Costs to be EPA certified and a lack of desire for small truck owners to shell that kind of money out does. I’m sure they could do what Ford does with the transit and Subaru did with the Brat. Bolt a set of cheap hard plastic seats in back, call it a passenger vehicle and pull the seats after import. In typical GD fashion people cry about wanting a light duty diesel pickup in the US. Manufacturers build them, GD makes loud poor noises " but not like that!" And they sell poorly and GD goes back to crying about availability.. Any of them could buy a Gladiator if they actually put thier money down. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 10:53:19 PM EDT
[#18]
It’s not an ugly truck, it just looks like it is trying too hard for the mini bro-dozer look. Make a more utilitarian trim, and reliable electronics, put a bulletproof drivetrain in it(both gas and diesel options), and price it closer to a maverick than a 1/2 ton; and I bet they could get a decent market share.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 10:57:38 PM EDT
[#19]
My G1 Sorento was surprisingly capable, and 7 (?) crossmembers. Hopefully this has some of that old school charm.
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Posted: 5/14/2024 12:02:39 AM EDT
[#20]
It's a nice looking truck but don't buy the 1st model year of any vehicle..as in ever. Unless you like being a beta tester.
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Posted: 5/14/2024 12:11:29 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s not an ugly truck, it just looks like it is trying too hard for the mini bro-dozer look. Make a more utilitarian trim, and reliable electronics, put a bulletproof drivetrain in it(both gas and diesel options), and price it closer to a maverick than a 1/2 ton; and I bet they could get a decent market share. South Korea certainly has the engineering and manufacturing skill to make a solid drivetrain, don't they? Why they do not (or cannot?) is a mystery to me. When a dealership keeps 50 long blocks in stock, and commercial engine rebuilders won't touch them, you know there are serious problems. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 1:47:33 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Chicken tax isn't keeping small diesels out of the US market. Costs to be EPA certified and a lack of desire for small truck owners to shell that kind of money out does. I'm sure they could do what Ford does with the transit and Subaru did with the Brat. Bolt a set of cheap hard plastic seats in back, call it a passenger vehicle and pull the seats after import. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not surprisingly, there's no plan for them to be sold in the U.S. I figured as much when I saw "turbo diesel". Chicken tax strikes again Chicken tax isn't keeping small diesels out of the US market. Costs to be EPA certified and a lack of desire for small truck owners to shell that kind of money out does. I'm sure they could do what Ford does with the transit and Subaru did with the Brat. Bolt a set of cheap hard plastic seats in back, call it a passenger vehicle and pull the seats after import. Ford settled for $365M for violation of the tariff act due to the removal of the seats. The Tasman won't be coming here as it stands, but another pickup is slated. We'll see if it materializes |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 2:14:45 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Kia's are trash. Oh wait. Shit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/42361/IMG_2361-3187996.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/42361/IMG_2479-3213790.jpg Except most German, Italian and British cars, Kias and Hyundais. I believe there's a certain amount of bullshit you're going to have to deal with owning any of those cars. Whether it's rod bearings as maintenance items or rolling the dice on whether your Kia is going to window the block, get stolen or catch fire on any given day. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 2:15:48 PM EDT
[#24]
It won't be sold here.
Repeal the Chicken Tax Repeal the EPA |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 2:18:29 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: South Korea certainly has the engineering and manufacturing skill to make a solid drivetrain, don't they? Why they do not (or cannot?) is a mystery to me. When a dealership keeps 50 long blocks in stock, and commercial engine rebuilders won't touch them, you know there are serious problems. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 3:20:41 PM EDT
[#26]
I dig it.
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Posted: 5/14/2024 6:07:44 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe most cars and trucks are fine and serviceable and are inherently reliable. Except most German, Italian and British cars, Kias and Hyundais. I believe there's a certain amount of bullshit you're going to have to deal with owning any of those cars. Whether it's rod bearings as maintenance items or rolling the dice on whether your Kia is going to window the block, get stolen or catch fire on any given day. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Kia's are trash. Oh wait. Shit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/42361/IMG_2361-3187996.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/42361/IMG_2479-3213790.jpg Except most German, Italian and British cars, Kias and Hyundais. I believe there's a certain amount of bullshit you're going to have to deal with owning any of those cars. Whether it's rod bearings as maintenance items or rolling the dice on whether your Kia is going to window the block, get stolen or catch fire on any given day. The stolen Kia things involved the key ignition’s ones. My stinger is keyless. So not on the stolen in 60 seconds list. I did not want a Kia. I’ve been a GM faithful. Our current stable is a Chevy blazer RS, a GMC Denali and the stinger. That I traded a Chevy Malibu in for. Name an American sedan with with almost 400 HP. Under $50k…….. If they had not shit canned the Chevy SS I would have one. But here I am with a Kia. My options were limited to a super expensive Cadillac. Or. Charger?? Acura, BMW, or…..Kia. The charger was ok. But the stinger gives me BMW level tech and “luxury”. The charger is pretty basic with tech and interior unless you pay out the ass. |
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Posted: 5/15/2024 7:12:19 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ford settled for $365M for violation of the tariff act due to the removal of the seats. The Tasman won't be coming here as it stands, but another pickup is slated. We'll see if it materializes I didn’t know Ford got popped for that. Wonder if they could skirt it by leaving the seats in and just leaving it up to the customer to remove them. |
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Posted: 5/15/2024 7:38:10 PM EDT
[#29]
I like it. It has an aggressive look to it.
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Posted: 5/16/2024 3:54:44 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't know Ford got popped for that. Wonder if they could skirt it by leaving the seats in and just leaving it up to the customer to remove them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ford settled for $365M for violation of the tariff act due to the removal of the seats. The Tasman won't be coming here as it stands, but another pickup is slated. We'll see if it materializes I didn't know Ford got popped for that. Wonder if they could skirt it by leaving the seats in and just leaving it up to the customer to remove them. Ford faced a number of issues which makes that unlikely. Beyond the removal - the nature/suitability of the seating itself, the lack of passenger provisions (trim, sound deadening, windows, etc), and they were marketed as commercial vehicles after the removal. Unlike Subie, Ford sells a distinct passenger version of the Transit which contains these features. The comparison rendered much of Fords defense unlikely to succeed, but import laws moved on from 1979 regardless. The Brat is oft cited, but it was a Suzuki petition (Samarai) which changed what was considered truck/passenger. Nissan later won a CIT ruling invalidating 2 doors as a primary determinant for classification. But a vehicle is still required to contain certain features. Those regs/rulings are pretty well settled. People forget all the foreign trucks brought in as cab chassis (nearly double the passenger car tariff but better than 1/4) - then a bed installed. This was the misclassfication - Ford also under-declared value. |
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Posted: 5/16/2024 4:12:09 AM EDT
[#31]
ETA - it's humerous /concerning a clear render creates so much comment. It's not the first time, tho as a couple have pointed out the differences (headlamp, hood, recovery points) in the first two pics should be the clue. Much disappointment to come.  The Kia Tasman | Camo Design Story Official Kia OZ market Tease |
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Posted: 5/16/2024 4:16:10 AM EDT
[#32]
I do like how it looks, but would not own it.
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Posted: 5/16/2024 5:29:14 AM EDT
[#33]
Looks sharp might interested in one in a year or two.
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Posted: 5/16/2024 5:33:22 AM EDT
[#34]
Not bad looking at all.
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Posted: 5/17/2024 7:12:50 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @OscarD Ford faced a number of issues which makes that unlikely. Beyond the removal - the nature/suitability of the seating itself, the lack of passenger provisions (trim, sound deadening, windows, etc), and they were marketed as commercial vehicles after the removal. Unlike Subie, Ford sells a distinct passenger version of the Transit which contains these features. The comparison rendered much of Fords defense unlikely to succeed, but import laws moved on from 1979 regardless. The Brat is oft cited, but it was a Suzuki petition (Samarai) which changed what was considered truck/passenger. Nissan later won a CIT ruling invalidating 2 doors as a primary determinant for classification. But a vehicle is still required to contain certain features. Those regs/rulings are pretty well settled. People forget all the foreign trucks brought in as cab chassis (nearly double the passenger car tariff but better than 1/4) - then a bed installed. This was the misclassfication - Ford also under-declared value. I have mixed feelings on the chicken tax. On one hand it limits the availability of vehicles for sale in the US. On the other hand it made companies like Toyota and Nissan invest in building plants in the US creating jobs here rather than over there. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 7:47:00 PM EDT
[#36]
ive had a few chicks that looked great but turned out to be disappointing, that said id never crawl in to bed with that, get a truck or just buy a car
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Posted: 6/16/2024 9:47:46 AM EDT
[#37]
Finally some official pics of the actual Tasman Kia, first seen in the Kia Oz tease posted above. Also a short from that art project interior - that wasn't supposed to get out.
Not quite the muscular, well styled pickup when compared to the fictional depiction contained in first post.  Attached File Attached File Attached Filehttps://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/2025-kia-tasman-ute-cabin-leaked-145577/?__source=editorialArticle&driver_crosssell=editorial.in.article.link Every new model announcement spawns a spate of YT "exclusives", featuring some renders and maybe some similarly fabricated info, tho there's sometimes some conglomeration of official released info garnered from various media assets, but much tends to be baseless. There's been some well done stuff that turned out to be mostly wrong and others that were pretty poorly done so easily identifiable. Just proof how good some of this stuff is, but also how, even when many point out and there's clear indications it's AI, it's missed. To be fair a number of prominent outlets got much right - mostly from hints in spy captures of camouflaged testers, but awful close in some cases.  ** BRAND NEW Isuzu D-Max Arctic Trucks AT35 2023 REVIEW Badass to Baseless and prolly some disappoint, not that the States are getting the Tasman anyway. First post reminds me more of the pre-facelift RG Isuzu D-Max. Top trim that get equipped with flairs or the Limiteds in some markets - or the ultimate model the Safir that was a very Limprod done in partnership with Arctic Trucks by Isuzu UK pre COViD. Not getting that either (well kinda not). |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:00:47 AM EDT
[#38]
That's not a pickup, it's another station wagon with top chopped off, a short bed, and overly complicated body panels and plastic overlays.
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:04:24 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: does it come with an extra engine in the bed for when the OEM explodes Did they partner with GMC? |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:08:52 AM EDT
[#40]
Rather have the Isuzu or Mitsubishi
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:11:32 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t know what that means. Their logo is a K followed by a backward N. Supposed to be KI/I fot KIA. Looks tarded. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:14:06 AM EDT
[#42]
Will look into it but it depends
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:18:47 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not surprisingly, there's no plan for them to be sold in the U.S. I figured as much when I saw "turbo diesel". Damn, for a moment I thought Kia would do what others can't or won't. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:26:41 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Chicken tax strikes again Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not surprisingly, there's no plan for them to be sold in the U.S. I figured as much when I saw "turbo diesel". Chicken tax strikes again Gotta love that free market capitalism /s If we did live in a country that actually believed in real capitalism and not capitalism hamstrung by crony government legislated bullshit pushed by losers who can't actually compete I would say Kia has something cool here and would give it a closer look. Overall looks great and has a small diesel. Count me in. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:39:50 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not a pickup, it's another station wagon with top chopped off, a short bed, and overly complicated body panels and plastic overlays. You have another tab open with a thread about the Ford Maverick or something? This is body on frame. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:42:54 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, they fixed their logo so their single-mom segment doesn't think it's KN anymore, huh? I can't find anything to suggest they are changing, but I did find this hilarious recommendation: 
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:55:06 AM EDT
[#47]
I’d get one being that it’s diesel, I’d also probably be the first to do a full delete.
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:19:35 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted:does it come with an extra engine in the bed for when the OEM explodes |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:23:33 AM EDT
[#49]
It looks good. Does it come with the ignition key epoxied in place so as to reduce damage when it gets stolen?
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:27:55 AM EDT
[#50]
The real version is gross.
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