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Posted: 4/24/2024 2:29:11 AM EDT
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@1srelluc could have fleeced the shit out of that widow.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:19:12 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: Take it for a test drive, ghetto style Out the window of your Chrysler 300 at the local park? |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:22:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By olivers_AR: Someone failed to let a buddy know to take the guns and didn’t inform the wife of the true value. This. I can't read anymore of this thread. It hurts my heart 
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:51:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QRB: We had an old timer bring in a live STG-45 in pretty clean shape. We explained to him that we couldn't touch it, and discussed his options. Poor old chap just wanted to sell it and couldn't understand what the issue was. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QRB: We had an old timer bring in a live STG-45 in pretty clean shape. We explained to him that we couldn't touch it, and discussed his options. Poor old chap just wanted to sell it and couldn't understand what the issue was.  Perhaps my most interesting encounter was the lady that wanted us to take some "explosives" her former renter (SEAL from Coronado) had left in her apartment. I suggested she call the fire department and have them remove it. She didn't want to do that, and insisted on driving it over to our shop. I told her to leave it in the trunk, and I would help her. It turned out to be mostly dummy ordnance - mostly.  We’ve gotten a couple calls about “grenades” but none have turned out to be real. I always try to jump the call before people freak out and contact EOD. lol They destroyed some nice Japanese WWII mortar rounds, without even checking to see if they were rendered inoperable, sadly. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:55:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BM-ARM-DPMS-guns: The receiver looks unfinished, semi auto kit build? Still a lot of value in parts right there. I wonder if the trunnion is good? Some aftermarket ones weren't in spec, but others were awesome. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 4:57:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xciapup: I am trying to think of a situation where the best answer is to call the ATF. The only call to make about the ATF is for congress to abolish/disband them. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 5:20:08 AM EDT
[#7]
Ma’am, this is a Wendy’s….
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:13:35 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThreadKiller: Women... 
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:46:45 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By juan223: Thats the correct answer when you're a juicy sting target... This. It’s like the Let’s Make a Deal Game Show. Do you want to trade everything you have for what’s behind door number 3? It’s either $80-100k or an ATF team. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:01:56 AM EDT
[#10]
When I was a kid my dad new an old WWII vet who had the MG42 that stitched his leg, he had it in a false wall in his workshop.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:07:55 AM EDT
[#11]
Can you ask her if she’s looking for a husband?
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:09:06 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 5thLegion: "Fell off a truck" |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:10:41 AM EDT
[#13]
Well dang
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:16:42 AM EDT
[#14]
To spare you the trouble, I’ll take it off your hands for $treefiddy.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:20:25 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dunderway: Robert A. must have been driving. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:35:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alphajaguars: First off, lower your voice… The serial number should fe FOIA’d first, before any thoughts of destruction or thoughts of turning it in to the outfit that takes trophy pictures with dead Americans. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:51:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mgwantob: I got there right after she left, all those guns on cart came with it. Husband died and she didn’t want the guns. The M-60 had a BFA on it so we took it off and it still has a good bore. I told him to cut it up and sell parts kit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mgwantob: Originally Posted By FreefallRet: Story? I got there right after she left, all those guns on cart came with it. Husband died and she didn’t want the guns. The M-60 had a BFA on it so we took it off and it still has a good bore. I told him to cut it up and sell parts kit. OP: Seriously............ before you do that, check with the NFA branch to see it's registered. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:57:35 AM EDT
[#18]
What kind of dealer would let you take or give you this picture to slop around on the internet?
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:14:24 AM EDT
[#19]
In Minecraft, I knew a Kitchen Table FFL. One day in Minecraft a period correct Sten and MP40 and several pistols and revolvers showed up. I got to finger fuck those. They were all in pristine shape and operable.
I was surprised how rough the STEN was from a manufacturing perspective. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:20:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By witchking777: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/Triggered-143.gif /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/no1-191.gif /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/image-78.jpg I’m gonna just be a party pooper and outright say I would have told him to take his old UXO and get the hell off my property. No way I’m messing with that having no idea where it came from or how it’s been handled. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:24:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: My favorite arfcom story was not mine, but I'll tell it from the OP post. Redneck: BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM Arfcommer: Nice SBR. Redneck: Wut Arfcommer: That's a very nice short barreled rifle, I like your gun. Redneck: wut Arfcommer: never mind Redneck: Do u want 2 shoot it? Arfcommer: Yes. I’ve pointed out the legality of such things to people before (quietly and in private) after people who genuinely didn’t know better posted pictures and videos of short things going pewpewpewpewpewpew on social media. Just a friendly heads up that you might not want to put such things up on a platform that’s basically curated by the NSA. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:40:18 AM EDT
[#22]
My dream gun.
Yes, I am well versed in it and its imperfections. Man do I want one. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:42:37 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By noob5000000: Neat! What happens next? Is there any possible ending other than ATF puts it in the crusher? If it's not registered it can go to a museum. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:50:39 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KitBuilder: Some people still assume this is a free country. Nice. We’ve gotten a couple calls about “grenades” but none have turned out to be real. I always try to jump the call before people freak out and contact EOD. lol They destroyed some nice Japanese WWII mortar rounds, without even checking to see if they were rendered inoperable, sadly. When I was in high school, we would skip down to the surplus store on the south side of town. Spent a ton of time and money there. Jay, I think his name was, ran the store. Certainly dead by now. One day he said "you boys want to see something cool?" Uh, yeah man! Ol Jay rolls out a cart from the back that is stacked with little plastic-wrapped bricks about 2"x5". On the side was printed "Charge Demolition M112 1/4 LBS COMP C-4" We were in shock. He said they were very real, legal, and wanted cash only. This was back in the late 90's. Not sure if they were legal, but god damn if we didn't want to buy the whole cart. I still regret not buying a couple of them at least
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:57:46 AM EDT
[#25]
@mgwantob
Other than the random C&R stuff on the cart there were some other goodies that came in with that lot as well, allegedly 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 11:40:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mgwantob: I got there right after she left, all those guns on cart came with it. Husband died and she didn’t want the guns. The M-60 had a BFA on it so we took it off and it still has a good bore. I told him to cut it up and sell parts kit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mgwantob: Originally Posted By FreefallRet: Story? I got there right after she left, all those guns on cart came with it. Husband died and she didn’t want the guns. The M-60 had a BFA on it so we took it off and it still has a good bore. I told him to cut it up and sell parts kit. Did you'll check to make sure it wasn't in the registry?
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 12:08:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By st0newall: so i ask the dumb question. how do you know it was not a legal transferable nfa m60. they do exist. Yep. Last time I took a hard look at getting one was about a decade ago and they were 60K then. In the early 90s my first NFA was an SWD M11-9 for $400. Like a months rent for me at the time. The local police chief signed off. I didn’t even know anyone that new about trusts and had no idea myself. Off the top of my head an M16 was about 2500 MP5SD about 4K And M60 10K I couldn’t afford them, and the local chief would have signed off on an M16 but not the suppressed HK or a belt fed. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 12:53:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shack357: If it's not registered it can go to a museum. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shack357: Originally Posted By noob5000000: Neat! What happens next? Is there any possible ending other than ATF puts it in the crusher? If it's not registered it can go to a museum. I'd cut it up for parts before it got put on a Form 10 to a museum ..... A form 10 is a "death sentence" for MG's ....... at least the parts could be used to keep other guns running. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 1:53:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Villafuego: I'd cut it up for parts before it got put on a Form 10 to a museum ..... A form 10 is a "death sentence" for MG's ....... at least the parts could be used to keep other guns running. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Villafuego: Originally Posted By shack357: Originally Posted By noob5000000: Neat! What happens next? Is there any possible ending other than ATF puts it in the crusher? If it's not registered it can go to a museum. I'd cut it up for parts before it got put on a Form 10 to a museum ..... A form 10 is a "death sentence" for MG's ....... at least the parts could be used to keep other guns running. Good point. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 2:44:56 PM EDT
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KY, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:12:59 PM EDT
[#31]
I had one a couple years ago, a Colt M16. Guy blew his head off with it on 3 round burst.
Family said he brought it back from the war. Older guy too. I wanted that rifle. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:22:59 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seatbelts: This. I can't read anymore of this thread. It hurts my heart Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seatbelts: Originally Posted By olivers_AR: Someone failed to let a buddy know to take the guns and didn’t inform the wife of the true value. This. I can't read anymore of this thread. It hurts my heart Or he tried to tell the wife years ago and she didn’t care enough to pay attention. I’ve seen that happen, too, but in fairness women sometimes have stuff with high resale value that I don’t know anything about. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:25:10 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KitBuilder: Some people still assume this is a free country. Nice. We’ve gotten a couple calls about “grenades” but none have turned out to be real. I always try to jump the call before people freak out and contact EOD. lol They destroyed some nice Japanese WWII mortar rounds, without even checking to see if they were rendered inoperable, sadly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KitBuilder: Originally Posted By QRB: We had an old timer bring in a live STG-45 in pretty clean shape. We explained to him that we couldn't touch it, and discussed his options. Poor old chap just wanted to sell it and couldn't understand what the issue was. Perhaps my most interesting encounter was the lady that wanted us to take some "explosives" her former renter (SEAL from Coronado) had left in her apartment. I suggested she call the fire department and have them remove it. She didn't want to do that, and insisted on driving it over to our shop. I told her to leave it in the trunk, and I would help her. It turned out to be mostly dummy ordnance - mostly. We’ve gotten a couple calls about “grenades” but none have turned out to be real. I always try to jump the call before people freak out and contact EOD. lol They destroyed some nice Japanese WWII mortar rounds, without even checking to see if they were rendered inoperable, sadly. Someone posted on here awhile back where they were texted a photograph of some WW2 Japanese grenades cleaned out of a house. If I remember correctly, they were still spicy and had a bad reputation of not getting better with age. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 4:03:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KitBuilder]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlabamaFan64: Someone posted on here awhile back where they were texted a photograph of some WW2 Japanese grenades cleaned out of a house. If I remember correctly, they were still spicy and had a bad reputation of not getting better with age. Several sources I've read say it was only the detonators that degrade (and become more dangerous) due to picric acid being used as an initiator. That's the assembly which was commonly removed and discarded by returning GIs who kept them. (They'd then screw the cap back on, and it would look unchanged externally). One source claims they didn't use picric acid at all: https://stephentaylorhistorian.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/jatr-no-05-japanese-grenades.pdf It took me about 3 hours to find some good info on them, and by then they'd already been collected by EOD and destroyed. No effort was made by EOD to inspect the detonator assemblies. Then finally I heard back from a museum, who said they'd take them, and that they're uncommon even among WWII museums. They're worth about $400 apiece. EDIT: That was in 2020, but I found my pics. (Thanks, technology. ) Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 4:07:29 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KitBuilder: @AlabamaFan64 Several sources I've read say it was only the detonators that degrade (and become more dangerous) due to picric acid being used as an initiator. That's the assembly which was commonly removed and discarded by returning GIs who kept them. (They'd then screw the cap back on, and it would look unchanged externally). One source claims they didn't use picric acid at all: https://stephentaylorhistorian.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/jatr-no-05-japanese-grenades.pdf It took me about 3 hours to find some good info on them, and by then they’d already been collected by EOD and destroyed. No effort was made by EOD to inspect the detonator assemblies. Then finally I heard back from a museum, who said they’d take them, and that they’re uncommon even among WWII museums. They’re worth about $400 apiece. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KitBuilder: Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64: Someone posted on here awhile back where they were texted a photograph of some WW2 Japanese grenades cleaned out of a house. If I remember correctly, they were still spicy and had a bad reputation of not getting better with age. Several sources I've read say it was only the detonators that degrade (and become more dangerous) due to picric acid being used as an initiator. That's the assembly which was commonly removed and discarded by returning GIs who kept them. (They'd then screw the cap back on, and it would look unchanged externally). One source claims they didn't use picric acid at all: https://stephentaylorhistorian.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/jatr-no-05-japanese-grenades.pdf It took me about 3 hours to find some good info on them, and by then they’d already been collected by EOD and destroyed. No effort was made by EOD to inspect the detonator assemblies. Then finally I heard back from a museum, who said they’d take them, and that they’re uncommon even among WWII museums. They’re worth about $400 apiece. Awesome. That’s pretty interesting. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 4:16:33 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VidaEterna: ... turning it in to the outfit that takes trophy pictures with dead Americans. Wait, what? |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 4:25:10 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djkest: Wait, what? This was being circulated all over the internet years ago:  Attached Filebut apparently that's not Chipman. Said to have been an FBI special agent or some other federal agent. Anyway, the skeleton/body was there, and so was ATF. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 4:39:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mauritius]
[#38]
I think I need to befriend some recently widowed elderly women.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 4:41:46 PM EDT
[#39]
I think I should befriend some recently widowed elderly women.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 4:42:12 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Natty_Bumppo: When I was a kid my dad new an old WWII vet who had the MG42 that stitched his leg, he had it in a false wall in his workshop. I think there are a fair amount of SMGs and MGs out there "just under the surface." In the 1970s, I was a wanna be gun trader in my late teens. I would hit every garage and yard sale, as well as asking around for leads. Lots of WWII vets from the northeast had retired in the part of Florida where I was living. I saw some interesting things, most of which I had no money to take advantage of or thought the risk of aquiring was too great. One was a 1928 Thompson (live) I found in an umbrella stand. There were a number of walking sticks there which kind of hid it, just the muzzle was visible. I gave it a surreptitious look, but this was in an open park area right on the main drag of Ocala, FL. My mind raced about how I might buy this from the old gal, but I was far from home, and I finally decided the risk was maybe too great. Another time, I was looking through a garage sale, and there was a little wooden garden tool shed painted white. I entered and gave the contents a scan, and then, up near the rafters, painted white and covered in dust and cobwebs, I spotted a Japanese Type 99 light MG. Seems strange to say now, but it wasn't anything I was really interested in. But I hovered in there for a long while, watching other people step in and look around. No one ever saw that rascal up there near the rafters. I would wager it stayed there until that shed was knocked down. Then there was the local teacher years later who I was shooting with. The subject of MGs came up, and he said, "Yeah, I had one of those German "Schmissers." Sold it just last year. Met the guy way out in the midle of nowhere, he shot half a magazine then paid me." This guy was the last person you would ever suspect of having something illegal, but he had owned it for years, and finally decided to let it go. So you never know when this sort of thing will turn up. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:46:12 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deerhurst: I'm pretty sure machine guns are medicinal. I know I always feel better when I have one in my hands.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 11:26:49 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: When I was in high school, we would skip down to the surplus store on the south side of town. Spent a ton of time and money there. Jay, I think his name was, ran the store. Certainly dead by now. One day he said "you boys want to see something cool?" Uh, yeah man! Ol Jay rolls out a cart from the back that is stacked with little plastic-wrapped bricks about 2"x5". On the side was printed "Charge Demolition M112 1/4 LBS COMP C-4" We were in shock. He said they were very real, legal, and wanted cash only. This was back in the late 90's. Not sure if they were legal, but god damn if we didn't want to buy the whole cart. I still regret not buying a couple of them at least  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:40:28 AM EDT
[#43]
Threads like this should not exist but im glad i got to see it. OP cant win.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 9:40:54 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Db8sGr8: What? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Db8sGr8: Originally Posted By sixnine: You spelled cunt wrong. What? jaded edgelord hates on elderly woman who has no idea about gun laws, news at 11 |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 6:48:48 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Second shelf of that cart on the right is that a mauser? 1916 Spanish |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 7:09:52 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: My favorite arfcom story was not mine, but I'll tell it from the OP post. Redneck: BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM Arfcommer: Nice SBR. Redneck: Wut Arfcommer: That's a very nice short barreled rifle, I like your gun. Redneck: wut Arfcommer: never mind Redneck: Do u want 2 shoot it? Arfcommer: Yes. SBR laws aren't real anymore. Alex Bosco rendered them irrelevant. ATF can seethe, moan and give away free stamps all they want. That ship has sailed. Lol |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 7:15:58 PM EDT
[#47]
I was an M60 gunner in the Corps, Mine was a beast, never missed a beat, never jammed and was so accurate when on the tripod with T and E. Miss my Pig.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 7:34:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ERNURSE: I was an M60 gunner in the Corps, Mine was a beast, never missed a beat, never jammed and was so accurate when on the tripod with T and E. Miss my Pig. Jumped an M60 numerous times at Bragg. After I made E4, it was time to pass it off onto a cherry. I ended up having to jump a Dragon a few times also. Thought I was in heaven when all I had to rig up in the M1950 weapons case was an M16/M203. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 7:54:45 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50cal: Jumped an M60 numerous times at Bragg. After I made E4, it was time to pass it off onto a cherry. I ended up having to jump a Dragon a few times also. Thought I was in heaven when all I had to rig up in the M1950 weapons case was an M16/M203. That's interesting. I Googled and found this: https://www.sturmgewehr.com/forums/index.php?/topic/31234-anyone-seen-an-m60-griswold-bag-before-any-guess-on-value/ Any special way you rigged it up? Fortunately I can just stick mine in an SUV and never have to worry about jumping it. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 9:26:33 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KitBuilder: @50cal That's interesting. I Googled and found this: https://www.sturmgewehr.com/forums/index.php?/topic/31234-anyone-seen-an-m60-griswold-bag-before-any-guess-on-value/ Any special way you rigged it up? Fortunately I can just stick mine in an SUV and never have to worry about jumping it. The 60 was put in the M1950 case like a rifle would be. But it was rigged to your parachute harness with a lowering line. The rucksack was released on the lowering line, then the weapons case was released to run down the lowering line to land on top of your ruck. N It had a specific way the case was laced to attach to the lowering line. My last static line jump was in 1991. I don't remember the specific way to rig it now. Damn. 33 years since last jump. No wonder my knees are fucked.
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