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Posted: 4/18/2024 1:30:10 PM EDT
Its a pretty unremarkable video. Boater was pulled for unsafe operation because a girl was dancing on the bow.
The captain did not have current safety or registration. Cop suggests he was BUI. The sobriety test starts around the 11 min mark. Anyone ever see something like this? Police Didn't Like Her Dancing |
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Tests/instructions start at 8:00...
Good god that some silly and long tests to do all in one shot. I am very much against DUI but jesus that some dumb steps. It reminds me of standing in line at a theme park trying to do different patty cake moves with my daughters that take me 10+ ties to get it all down. |
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Id just say, no thanks, take me to jail.
Im not doing your dance. Never do the dance. |
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I would say are you serious. I can’t do that shit right now.
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Defund the fish cops.
They've obviously got too many people with too much spare time. |
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Originally Posted By HangfiresGhost: Defund the fish cops. They've obviously got too many people with too much spare time. View Quote Meanwhile in my area if you actually NEED one due to a relevant situation they are impossible to get ahold of. Now, the moment you are coming back from the duck blind, they seem to magically materialize. |
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The guy is on land. There is ZERO reason to do any alternate tests.
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He who covers his sins will not prosper,
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Yeah, fuck that. I just tried the fist step hand clap shit and I can't do that worth a damn. Haven't had a drink in over a week.
My friend who is a defense attorney has told me that he loves these cases as he almost always wins them. I'm beginning to see why. |
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Originally Posted By HDLS: you don’t think there’s been threads and dupe threads? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/subnetfavoritelol-1033.gif View Quote Shrugs. First I have seen of it. A sitting sobriety test at that. |
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There is a separate set of FST’s developed for boating specifically because of equilibrium etc after being on a boat for any period of time. One leg stands and walk and turn and the ones you are used to seeing on traffic stops are part of the ashore battery of tests that cannot be completed until after a certain time has elapsed once you are ashore. That is why the palm pat, finger count, etc were developed. I got out of the game shortly after the test in the video was developed and the consensus amongst all of the Boarding Officers I worked with were that it was retarded.
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"Team Ranstad"
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That cop is a tier one douchenozzle
I would consent to a breathalyzer other than that they can fuck right off with the stupid hokey pokey routine. Small dick cop with the cringe beard was just flexing for the girls. Respect my authoritay |
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Clearly the blonde is nawt gill-tea. Anyway, the way the fish cop sways (when you see the two women) & you'd think he was drunk
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I don’t dance. And you didn’t say “Simon says”
Fucking ridiculous. I couldn’t do a road side sobriety test on a Sunday in church. Bad knees, spinal stenosis, bad feet, no balance. Shit, I have to lean against the door frame in my bedroom to put my pants on in the morning. |
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I've never been drunk in my life and I had trouble following along with that asinine stupidity. |
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Originally Posted By Cobra-Commander: There is a separate set of FST’s developed for boating specifically because of equilibrium etc after being on a boat for any period of time. One leg stands and walk and turn and the ones you are used to seeing on traffic stops are part of the ashore battery of tests that cannot be completed until after a certain time has elapsed once you are ashore. That is why the palm pat, finger count, etc were developed. I got out of the game shortly after the test in the video was developed and the consensus amongst all of the Boarding Officers I worked with were that it was retarded. View Quote The issue I have is his delivery of instructions. He is rapid fire when instructing and the test seems overly dramatic as it is. My big issue is that he has to read it from a manual. While this may or may not be required for that test or ensures that the instructions are verbatim, it also gives the impression it requires a god damn manual. An attorney could reasonably argue the test instructions are confusing to a reasonable person and possibly win a mind or two on a jury. I don't get why this was chosen or why the instructions want 4 different sequences memorized. It leaves a lot of holes just by the presentation. We didn't do fsts with anything but maybe a flashlight wedge in our armpit and our 007 in one hand just writing a couple things down. |
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Originally Posted By Cobra-Commander: There is a separate set of FST’s developed for boating specifically because of equilibrium etc after being on a boat for any period of time. One leg stands and walk and turn and the ones you are used to seeing on traffic stops are part of the ashore battery of tests that cannot be completed until after a certain time has elapsed once you are ashore. That is why the palm pat, finger count, etc were developed. I got out of the game shortly after the test in the video was developed and the consensus amongst all of the Boarding Officers I worked with were that it was retarded. View Quote I vote it’s retarded also. The old ones we had were much simpler and probably just as reliable—if not more reliable because they were easy to explain and understand. You only had to repeat the instructions to someone that was severely impaired. |
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Originally Posted By chmodx: The issue I have is his delivery of instructions. He is rapid fire when instructing and the test seems overly dramatic as it is. My big issue is that he has to read it from a manual. While this may or may not be required for that test or ensures that the instructions are verbatim, it also gives the impression it requires a god damn manual. An attorney could reasonably argue the test instructions are confusing to a reasonable person and possibly win a mind or two on a jury. I don't get why this was chosen or why the instructions want 4 different sequences memorized. It leaves a lot of holes just by the presentation. We didn't do fsts with anything but maybe a flashlight wedge in our armpit and our 007 in one hand just writing a couple things down. View Quote Like I said, when that test was pushed out everyone I worked with including myself were like . The battery we used when I first started doing BUI enforcement was not that complex. |
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"Team Ranstad"
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: As a suspect there's pretty much zero reason to do any tests. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By UV18: The guy is on land. There is ZERO reason to do any alternate tests. As a suspect there's pretty much zero reason to do any tests. You ain't going to change the cop's mind at that point. Hell, some cops were found to be arresting people even after they blew 0.0's. Shut up and don't give them anything to get you on. |
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Imagine how smart we could be if there were no such thing as warning labels.
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That's a bunch of crap. Who decides on what tests to do? DUI suspects on land don't have to do anything like this? If you're under the influence, you should go to jail.. I would just do the breathalyzer and be done with it.
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Be the change you want in this world.
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The split tails are not guilty.
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LOL, take me in and blow me.
I’m not doing any of that. |
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watched this one a week or two ago and thought it was bullshit. fish cops were definitely assholes and he shouldn’t have been arrested.
i’m sure i will NKT be defended by usual suspects on here and that fish cops was all gud in what they did. |
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Was the boat really docked? Talk about a blow job move...
ETA I'm not a fish cop, but regular cop. I've never seen field sobriety tests like that, and recognize that they would obviously need to differ from those on land. However, to have a test that requires 4 separate steps that are not demonstrated in sequence by the officer? It would seem to me that it would be easily thrown out by a defense attorney? Can a fish cop come in and speak to this test, because it kinda looks like bull crap to me lol. The attitude on that cop was absurd lol. You're rolling up on people hanging out in a docked boat. |
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Strength Determination Merciless Forever
PA, USA
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What the fuck?
Does no cop know how to do the eye twitch test anymore? |
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“Land based water patrol”, AKA I get paid to be a dick.
FWC are goons, they hit me for safety checks twice, in a 30 minute span in Clearwater. All paperwork, open all hatches and coolers. Even checked my flares. |
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"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
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Originally Posted By DVCER: “Land based water patrol”, AKA I get paid to be a dick. FWC are goons, they hit me for safety checks twice, in a 30 minute span in Clearwater. View Quote My anchored, fresh water boat (that was at a private residence) got 2 visits in that time. Hot girls in gstrings are an f'n magnet. I told the second boat to radio officer ___________ to confirm. |
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Originally Posted By patw: That's a bunch of crap. Who decides on what tests to do? DUI suspects on land don't have to do anything like this? If you're under the influence, you should go to jail.. I would just do the breathalyzer and be done with it. View Quote The tests are all because of lawyers. Just the breathalyzer and arrest will get your cases thrown out. Just a number doesn’t mean anything anymore |
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"No, you can't step on. You're a land cop, not qualified to enter a boat."
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Keep your powder dry, and watch your back trail.
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Shit just like this is why I do my best to treat cops like ghettos. I avoid them at all costs
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would be great for fish cops to have to perform these tests sober vs inebriated and be judged on their performance.
there’s NO WAY i (or anyone) could do any of those perfectly, despite being sober. designed to make you fail. |
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Just say, "dood, I couldn't do that if I was sober, much less right now".
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Originally Posted By Creatyre: Was the boat really docked? Talk about a blow job move... ETA I'm not a fish cop, but regular cop. I've never seen field sobriety tests like that, and recognize that they would obviously need to differ from those on land. However, to have a test that requires 4 separate steps that are not demonstrated in sequence by the officer? It would seem to me that it would be easily thrown out by a defense attorney? Can a fish cop come in and speak to this test, because it kinda looks like bull crap to me lol. The attitude on that cop was absurd lol. You're rolling up on people hanging out in a docked boat. View Quote Our afloat battery used to consist of finger count, palm pat, finger to nose, backwards count, alphabet, and HGN. If need be after that, also-sensor breath test. I don’t think you will find anyone who has done any kind of BUI enforcement that thinks that test is legit. |
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"Team Ranstad"
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Originally Posted By FuriousYachtsman: So he should've made a run for it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By swolliepop: would be great for fish cops to have to perform these tests sober vs inebriated and be judged on their performance. there’s NO WAY i (or anyone) could do any of those perfectly, despite being sober. designed to make you fail. View Quote If I was a judge I would have them perform the test, except a somewhat different one as they probably have memorized that one. And when they can't do it I would throw them in jail for 180 days for showing up in my courtroom drunk. And 180 days later they would get tested again with a different test... back to jail for 180 days you alcoholic. |
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There are 100 kinds of people, those who can both understand binary and extrapolate from incomplete information…
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Originally Posted By Cobra-Commander: Our afloat battery used to consist of finger count, palm pat, finger to nose, backwards count, alphabet, and HGN. If need be after that, also-sensor breath test. I don’t think you will find anyone who has done any kind of BUI enforcement that thinks that test is legit. View Quote What happens if I say I have arthritis (which I do) and ask to skip the test and go straight to the breathalyzer? |
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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You put your right foot in
You take your right foot out You put your right foot in And you shake it all about You do the hokey pokey And you turn yourself around That’s what it’s all about |
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Originally Posted By Cobra-Commander: Our afloat battery used to consist of finger count, palm pat, finger to nose, backwards count, alphabet, and HGN. If need be after that, also-sensor breath test. I don’t think you will find anyone who has done any kind of BUI enforcement that thinks that test is legit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Cobra-Commander: Originally Posted By Creatyre: Was the boat really docked? Talk about a blow job move... ETA I'm not a fish cop, but regular cop. I've never seen field sobriety tests like that, and recognize that they would obviously need to differ from those on land. However, to have a test that requires 4 separate steps that are not demonstrated in sequence by the officer? It would seem to me that it would be easily thrown out by a defense attorney? Can a fish cop come in and speak to this test, because it kinda looks like bull crap to me lol. The attitude on that cop was absurd lol. You're rolling up on people hanging out in a docked boat. Our afloat battery used to consist of finger count, palm pat, finger to nose, backwards count, alphabet, and HGN. If need be after that, also-sensor breath test. I don’t think you will find anyone who has done any kind of BUI enforcement that thinks that test is legit. Good to hear, because that test looked like something from Reno 911. |
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Originally Posted By Dagger41: What happens if I say I have arthritis (which I do) and ask to skip the test and go straight to the breathalyzer? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dagger41: Originally Posted By Cobra-Commander: Our afloat battery used to consist of finger count, palm pat, finger to nose, backwards count, alphabet, and HGN. If need be after that, also-sensor breath test. I don’t think you will find anyone who has done any kind of BUI enforcement that thinks that test is legit. What happens if I say I have arthritis (which I do) and ask to skip the test and go straight to the breathalyzer? You have every right to not participate in the field sobriety tests. The officer will likely use whatever other PC is available to make the arrest and then will obviously not have the field sobriety tests to use against you in court. |
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Once when I was younger and dumber I played almost this exact same game with our local dipsh1ts. I lost.
That was a massive learning experience for me. |
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Funny part about that bs test is, I thought he did pretty well.
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Originally Posted By Dagger41: What happens if I say I have arthritis (which I do) and ask to skip the test and go straight to the breathalyzer? View Quote There is a laundry list of questions asked about injuries, defects, medical conditions, etc before the tests even begin to rule out any potential issues with certain tests. If you have injuries or disabilities that preclude you from completing them, then whatever tests you are able to complete are used. |
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"Team Ranstad"
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fish cops are freaking useless.
I can't think of a single reason to have them. |
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