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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:42:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RealityCheck0311]
Sound starts at :40+
Just watching a police video and the streets are so unbelievably bad. At :54 the cop almost loses it because of the road conditions. I've been in some rough areas of the world and it wasn't as bad as this. What's wild is that around the 1:57 mark, the streets become remarkably better. But the moment they turn onto a side street, it's back to post-apocalyptic movie set time.  Road Rager Leads Michigan State Police on Wild Chase Through Flint Feel like you would lose every dental filling after a few police pursuits. at 4:00+ it's ridiculous! |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:45:32 PM EDT
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Rode the Harley over to Dayton today. Good night the roads are truly Mad Max level. 35 may as well have been gravel.
 I can’t imagine how much worse Michigan roads would be with more ice and salt in the winters. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:47:01 PM EDT
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do civilian fuckos in michigan not slow/stop and move to the right for po-po?
goddamn. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:50:18 PM EDT
[#3]
Our roads are worse.
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:58:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akcaribouhunter: Our roads are worse. Yeah, but that's kind of expected. Just weather and logistics. Kind of curious how long roads have to be untouched to get like that. For example, there is areas near Flint where the streets look like what you would expect in the Midwest suburbs with hot summers, cold winters, salt, etc.. There is cracks but they're significantly smoother. This is 7 miles from Flint. https://www.google.com/maps/@42.922735,-83.6134362,3a,75y,70.59h,87.84t/data= |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:59:34 PM EDT
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We have some of the worst roads in the country.
I remember one pothole had a string of cars that blew a tire out after going through it. Like 20 cars on the side of the road. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:06:34 PM EDT
[#6]
Freeze/thaw cycles, road salt, and snow plows be like that.
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:06:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Admiral_Crunch]
[#7]
Those roads are awful. Whole city must be rotting.
Nice pit maneuver. Put him right into a tree. (4:40) |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:08:03 PM EDT
[#8]
Whitmer ran on "Fix the damn roads".
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:10:30 PM EDT
[#9]
Looks like most of PA roads. Many highways here too.
Drive from PA to DE and it is really noticeable, DE is like the yellow brick road compared to PA. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:10:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: Those roads are awful. Whole city must be rotting. Nice pit maneuver. Put him right into a tree. That's the main reason why I can't watch Los Angeles police chase videos anymore. It's just excruciating watching them chase some subject for 10 miles on a deserted road with no traffic around. Where as the Midwest or Southern police videos, they'll be traveling 80mph on a busy freeway and just punt them off the road. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:17:52 PM EDT
[#11]
Lol...take a trip to the north east!
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:19:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By noob5000000: Whitmer ran on "Fix the damn roads". She is a lying bitch, so it was idiotic for anyone to believe her bullshit. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:20:58 PM EDT
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Huge amounts of money have been spent on Interstate and US highways in and around my city the last few years. Nothing like that being done on city surface streets. I can show several places where lanes have been blocked off for two years now, but no work being done. Even major streets are in worst condition I have ever seen. Spring pothole season is in full bloom, have not seen any patch/repair work being done. Current city/county govmt is Dem controlled.
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:22:16 PM EDT
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Yeah, everything here is worse than in civilized places, but the taxes are higher for everything.
Gas, income tax, insurance, and everything else costs more, but the "public" services are complete shit. The roads, schools, and emergency services are mediocre (at best), even though they cost more than in other places which are much nicer. I haven't been everywhere, but Michigan is the worst place I've ever lived by a wide margin. I will escape this dump, and it will be a glorious day when I am able to leave it for the last time. It's such a shithole that even people from here don't want to live here. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:24:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMB69: Huge amounts of money have been spent on Interstate and US highways in and around my city the last few years. Nothing like that being done on city surface streets. I can show several places where lanes have been blocked off for two years now, but no work being done. Even major streets are in worst condition I have ever seen. Spring pothole season is in full bloom, have not seen any patch/repair work being done. Current city/county govmt is Dem controlled. What happens if you bend a rim or a lower control arm? Will the city compensate you or are you screwed? I'm talking about an unmodified car, not some lowered deal or a car with 22" wheels where they can blame the modifications. |
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MH, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:32:40 PM EDT
[#16]
East Lansing.
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KY, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:33:00 PM EDT
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Traveling across Ukraine, my driver apologized for the quality of their roads. I said lady, you've never been to Cleveland before!
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:38:53 PM EDT
[#18]
Tucson says hold my beer………
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:40:14 PM EDT
[#19]
I would love to know how fast he was going @2:20, looked like 80 or so.
And I am impressed the guy could run after the pit into the tree, I would probably be running in a circle and not even know it. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:44:16 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedKulak: Traveling across Ukraine, my driver apologized for the quality of their roads. I said lady, you've never been to Cleveland before! This made me chuckle. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:47:01 PM EDT
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Many streets in the city of Portland, OR are just as bad or worse however the State DOT does a fine job on state roads and most counties do an excellent job as well.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:49:40 PM EDT
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Pop up pothole on 264 in Norfolk got my wife and about 20 other cars it made the news. Three pavings worth of asphalt got tore out by something. Every car that hit it had a bent rim. Shit sucked we were poor.
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KS, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:52:00 PM EDT
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I70 in eastern Colorado bucks hard enough to shake the break pedal and kick off the cruise control.
It looks even worse up in the mountains  Days before shutdown, driver says potholes on I-70 caused crash |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:54:49 PM EDT
[#24]
Lol yeah. Our roads are absolute trash. The road commission doesn’t even bother ripping them up, they just toss a shovel of asphalt patch on the worst parts and drive on.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 12:07:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gearjammer351: Yeah, everything here is worse than in civilized places, but the taxes are higher for everything. Gas, income tax, insurance, and everything else costs more, but the "public" services are complete shit. The roads, schools, and emergency services are mediocre (at best), even though they cost more than in other places which are much nicer. I haven't been everywhere, but Michigan is the worst place I've ever lived by a wide margin. I will escape this dump, and it will be a glorious day when I am able to leave it for the last time. It's such a shithole that even people from here don't want to live here. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 12:29:43 AM EDT
[#26]
What's tax revenue for? Not for roads, that's for sure.
PIT stopped those perps really well! |
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SGP
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Posted: 4/28/2024 12:32:26 AM EDT
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Dude parts of the highway system are that bad. We're a nation in collapse.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 12:50:04 AM EDT
[#28]
You think our roads are bad in Flint?
PFFTTT.......you should see how bad these assholes drive. Flint sucks. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 12:50:40 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RealityCheck0311: Yeah, but that's kind of expected. Just weather and logistics. Kind of curious how long roads have to be untouched to get like that. For example, there is areas near Flint where the streets look like what you would expect in the Midwest suburbs with hot summers, cold winters, salt, etc.. There is cracks but they're significantly smoother. This is 7 miles from Flint. https://www.google.com/maps/@42.922735,-83.6134362,3a,75y,70.59h,87.84t/data= Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RealityCheck0311: Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: Our roads are worse. Yeah, but that's kind of expected. Just weather and logistics. Kind of curious how long roads have to be untouched to get like that. For example, there is areas near Flint where the streets look like what you would expect in the Midwest suburbs with hot summers, cold winters, salt, etc.. There is cracks but they're significantly smoother. This is 7 miles from Flint. https://www.google.com/maps/@42.922735,-83.6134362,3a,75y,70.59h,87.84t/data= The layer under the pavement is a mix of concrete,gravel and sand. (New) way the Alaska state engineers wanted to try. On the graveled roads the gravel only lasts about 4-5 months before it disappears. Pot holes for very quickly and get deep. Calcium chloride has been put down to control dust but I think it has caused the tundra to thaw. Will see if I can find the story with pictures of the paved road. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 12:57:31 AM EDT
[#30]
Originally Posted By RealityCheck0311: Sound starts at :40+ Just watching a police video and the streets are so unbelievably bad. At :54 the cop almost loses it because of the road conditions. I've been in some rough areas of the world and it wasn't as bad as this. What's wild is that around the 1:57 mark, the streets become remarkably better. But the moment they turn onto a side street, it's back to post-apocalyptic movie set time.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVo-E_rWwZwFeel like you would lose every dental filling after a few police pursuits. at 4:00+ it's ridiculous! I think I remember those same potholes back when I lived in Detroit in the early '90s! |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 12:57:57 AM EDT
[#31]
Good luck getting over 40mph on the dirt roads out here right now. A little bit of slow rain has them so deep in mud. We aren’t used to rain.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 1:07:35 AM EDT
[#32]
There is a documentary series about Flint PD.
Holy shit, it’s amazing. It’s like some guys just randomly started a PD, no organization or standards or infrastructure. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 1:30:31 AM EDT
[#33]
But without a government, who would neglect the roads?
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USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 1:59:41 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By noob5000000: Whitmer ran on "Fix the damn roads". |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 2:05:31 AM EDT
[#35]
Used to run ems in some rural poor towns that were more pot hole than road.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 2:19:08 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mo4040: Freeze/thaw cycles, road salt, and snow plows be like that. Plus steel hauler trucks carrying 100,000 lbs, maybe much more than that. Most states limit trucks to 50,000 lbs or so, with out a special permit. Double or even triple trailers loaded with massive steel coils of 80K or more seem to be the rule in MI |
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USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 2:40:13 AM EDT
[#37]
Well when your tax base sucks because the democrats have driven all business out of town, and they want to spend millions on useless shit, you get bad roads. Plus winter freezing and thawing is very tough on the roads.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 3:09:46 AM EDT
[#38]
We would have been called off that pursuit by the three minute mark
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 3:37:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Ibn_Huq]
[#39]
Quote HistoryThat looks very similar to how Leningrad did when I visited in the early 00s. There just needs to be rust stained public buses with wobbling wheels passing by, and women with unabashed camel toes telegraphing through thin white pants standing on the sidewalks. Give them time, we’ll all get there together comrades |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:16:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vaughn4380: Rode the Harley over to Dayton today. Good night the roads are truly Mad Max level. 35 may as well have been gravel. I can’t imagine how much worse Michigan roads would be with more ice and salt in the winters. Drive around the West side for some real post apocalypse vibes |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:27:07 AM EDT
[#41]
Boo-hoo. The roads are bad.
Cry me a river. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:03:15 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RogueSpear2023: Well when your tax base sucks because the democrats have driven all business out of town, and they want to spend millions on useless shit, you get bad roads. Plus winter freezing and thawing is very tough on the roads. Flint can't even provide clean water to its residents. Roads are a luxury. Third world is a good description. I wonder what else is third world about Flint? |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:09:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Plus steel hauler trucks carrying 100,000 lbs, maybe much more than that. Most states limit trucks to 50,000 lbs or so, with out a special permit. Double or even triple trailers loaded with massive steel coils of 80K or more seem to be the rule in MI Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Originally Posted By mo4040: Freeze/thaw cycles, road salt, and snow plows be like that. Plus steel hauler trucks carrying 100,000 lbs, maybe much more than that. Most states limit trucks to 50,000 lbs or so, with out a special permit. Double or even triple trailers loaded with massive steel coils of 80K or more seem to be the rule in MI Actually came to say this. We allow much heavier trucks here because of the political sway of the Detroit automakers. They have mich less clout than when those laws were originally drafted, but they still hold a lot of power. Imagine the shrieking from automakers (and from GD, for that matter) if they were told their trucking costs were literally going to double because the government was going to cut weight limits in half to "protect the roads." But that is exactly why our roads are so bad compared to other states with the same weather conditions. Of course, trucks loaded with coils of steel didn't do that to Flint's streets. That's 100% Democrat government policies that did that. Infrastructure is crumbling everywhere here though. There's a thin veneer on the facade of civilization, and it's starting to crumble. We shouldn't have paved so many roads, because the long-term / lifetime costs of maintianing them is not sustainable unless economic conditions are perfect. Same came be said for police departments, fire departments, EMS, pretty much any public service. We're trying to maintain a level of service that is simply not affordable or sustainable. Side note - There won't be any more MSP pursuit videos. They recently went to a "no pursuit" policy which effectively prohibits ALL pursuits - they can't even chase a murderer, if they know who he is. (Theory being they can "get him later.) |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:14:21 AM EDT
[#44]
Originally Posted By RealityCheck0311: Sound starts at :40+ Just watching a police video and the streets are so unbelievably bad. At :54 the cop almost loses it because of the road conditions. I've been in some rough areas of the world and it wasn't as bad as this. What's wild is that around the 1:57 mark, the streets become remarkably better. But the moment they turn onto a side street, it's back to post-apocalyptic movie set time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVo-E_rWwZwFeel like you would lose every dental filling after a few police pursuits. at 4:00+ it's ridiculous! Newark, NJ is right up there if not worse than Flint roads. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:17:38 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunner226: Actually came to say this. We allow much heavier trucks here because of the political sway of the Detroit automakers. They have mich less clout than when those laws were originally drafted, but they still hold a lot of power. Imagine the shrieking from automakers (and from GD, for that matter) if they were told their trucking costs were literally going to double because the government was going to cut weight limits in half to "protect the roads." But that is exactly why our roads are so bad compared to other states with the same weather conditions. Of course, trucks loaded with coils of steel didn't do that to Flint's streets. That's 100% Democrat government policies that did that. Infrastructure is crumbling everywhere here though. There's a thin veneer on the facade of civilization, and it's starting to crumble. We shouldn't have paved so many roads, because the long-term / lifetime costs of maintianing them is not sustainable unless economic conditions are perfect. Same came be said for police departments, fire departments, EMS, pretty much any public service. We're trying to maintain a level of service that is simply not affordable or sustainable. Side note - There won't be any more MSP pursuit videos. They recently went to a "no pursuit" policy which effectively prohibits ALL pursuits - they can't even chase a murderer, if they know who he is. (Theory being they can "get him later.) I agree except that it isn't sustainable if we continue to waste trillions that we never wasted before on vote buying handouts and corruption that dwarf all previous handouts and corruption. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:20:21 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mopeman: Lol...take a trip to the north east! This. Those roads are smooth compared to Massachusetts. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:21:08 AM EDT
[#47]
Kind of common in old gentrified cities. Especially in the north with all the freeze thaw cycles.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:23:25 AM EDT
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City council slashes budget to road dept. City council awards lucrative contracts to private contractors (owned by relatives and close friends) to fix road problems caused by slashed budget.
How it's done in dimocrat controlled shitholes. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:31:16 AM EDT
[#49]
Leftist governments doing their best.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:43:09 AM EDT
[#50]
Not in the United States but. Santa Teresa Costa Rica, I saw a deuce and a half get stuck smack dab in the center of the road, this was the main road through town lol.
I took this pic before he got stuck, was watching them unstick him while eating breakfast  |
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