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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:03:59 AM EDT
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Neat. I have a 458 and seeing that bullet comparison really puts this caliber into perspective.
Also thank you for explaining the DD issues. I started reading and thinking "but what about...". Anxious to read about the range report. 
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Posted: 4/25/2024 6:00:28 AM EDT
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Is there such a thing as a full auto DD? Or is that redundant?
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Posted: 4/25/2024 8:50:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillythePoet: There was another small outfit making big bore cans. I can't recall the name at the moment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillythePoet: Originally Posted By Inquisitive_Spaniard: Originally Posted By BillythePoet: The suppressor wouldn't be a expensive as you might think. Holler at Liberty or Bowers maybe. I priced a bowers can for 45-70 the other day. It was $1k. They have gone up quite a bit in price There was another small outfit making big bore cans. I can't recall the name at the moment. Lane, in SD. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 8:51:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chodenut: Is there such a thing as a full auto DD? Or is that redundant? Think machinegun can be any caliber, just as the barrel and OAL can be any dimension. Gets expensive if you move the trigger pack to another host, however. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 9:17:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Lane, in SD. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By BillythePoet: Originally Posted By Inquisitive_Spaniard: Originally Posted By BillythePoet: The suppressor wouldn't be a expensive as you might think. Holler at Liberty or Bowers maybe. I priced a bowers can for 45-70 the other day. It was $1k. They have gone up quite a bit in price There was another small outfit making big bore cans. I can't recall the name at the moment. Lane, in SD. That's it, thanks |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:07:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Think machinegun can be any caliber, just as the barrel and OAL can be any dimension. Gets expensive if you move the trigger pack to another host, however. Does anyone know if the same goes for a DD? |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:53:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuraki: Does anyone know if the same goes for a DD? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuraki: Originally Posted By backbencher: Think machinegun can be any caliber, just as the barrel and OAL can be any dimension. Gets expensive if you move the trigger pack to another host, however. Does anyone know if the same goes for a DD? Does it matter if you have to buy 2 stamps for a 20mm Oerlikon? |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:39:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Does it matter if you have to buy 2 stamps for a 20mm Oerlikon? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Kuraki: Originally Posted By backbencher: Think machinegun can be any caliber, just as the barrel and OAL can be any dimension. Gets expensive if you move the trigger pack to another host, however. Does anyone know if the same goes for a DD? Does it matter if you have to buy 2 stamps for a 20mm Oerlikon? Only one stamp is required for FA. Diameter and barrel length are negated by F/A. Our laws are pants on head retarded. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:50:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Inquisitive_Spaniard: Only one stamp is required for FA. Diameter and barrel length are negated by F/A. Our laws are pants on head retarded. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Inquisitive_Spaniard: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Kuraki: Originally Posted By backbencher: Think machinegun can be any caliber, just as the barrel and OAL can be any dimension. Gets expensive if you move the trigger pack to another host, however. Does anyone know if the same goes for a DD? Does it matter if you have to buy 2 stamps for a 20mm Oerlikon? Only one stamp is required for FA. Diameter and barrel length are negated by F/A. Our laws are pants on head retarded. MG doesn't cover DD. A full auto DD requires two stamps. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:55:58 PM EDT
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That is awesome OP, thank you for sharing! Cant wait for the range report.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:00:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg: MG doesn't cover DD. A full auto DD requires two stamps. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg: Originally Posted By Inquisitive_Spaniard: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Kuraki: Originally Posted By backbencher: Think machinegun can be any caliber, just as the barrel and OAL can be any dimension. Gets expensive if you move the trigger pack to another host, however. Does anyone know if the same goes for a DD? Does it matter if you have to buy 2 stamps for a 20mm Oerlikon? Only one stamp is required for FA. Diameter and barrel length are negated by F/A. Our laws are pants on head retarded. MG doesn't cover DD. A full auto DD requires two stamps. Well belay my ass then. It does cover barrel length. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:17:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By homebaker: Yes it is. I applied for a sporting cartridge exemption but was denied. A bolt action would not need a DD Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By homebaker: Originally Posted By DeltaV42: Agree. This is not a pearl clutching question, but just curious: is that a DD? Yes it is. I applied for a sporting cartridge exemption but was denied. A bolt action would not need a DD The problem was asking for permission. If I understand @Ben right, the law says if the owner intends it for only sporting purposes it's not a DD. But you gave ATF the chance to say no. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:19:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shack357: The problem was asking for permission. If I understand @Ben right, the law says if the owner intends it for only sporting purposes it's not a DD. But you gave ATF the chance to say no. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shack357: Originally Posted By homebaker: Originally Posted By DeltaV42: Agree. This is not a pearl clutching question, but just curious: is that a DD? Yes it is. I applied for a sporting cartridge exemption but was denied. A bolt action would not need a DD The problem was asking for permission. If I understand @Ben right, the law says if the owner intends it for only sporting purposes it's not a DD. But you gave ATF the chance to say no. Given that ATF reserves the ability to kick in your door at 0600 and shoot you in the face, OP chose the more conservative of the courses. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:48:25 PM EDT
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I miss threads like these.
Thanks, OP, that's awesome and inspiring. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 3:27:59 PM EDT
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I like it!
I'm working on a couple of big ones myself. Tony Rumore Tromix |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:48:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TonyRumore: I like it! I'm working on a couple of big ones myself. Tony Rumore Tromix This thread just got a lot more interesting! Thank you for all that you do for the community Tony. I have one of your 458 SOCOM uppers and it has been flawless. Glad to hear you're working on some new stuff! 
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Posted: 4/27/2024 5:56:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TonyRumore: I like it! I'm working on a couple of big ones myself. Tony Rumore Tromix Now it's a party |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:27:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TonyRumore: I like it! I'm working on a couple of big ones myself. Tony Rumore Tromix This right here is the best endorsement possible. Awesome. |
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