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Link Posted: 4/17/2024 12:41:50 PM EDT
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I am very aware of that, but of all the things that I would want to change about myself to be more "normal" I wouldn't want to change any of that.

If I was indeed suffering from low T (as many have brought up) and having that supplemented all of a sudden made me feel the urge to hang out at strip clubs, bars and casinos then I'd be discontinuing testosterone supplementation. Same with anxiety medication.
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Are your objections to such establishments moral or religious?
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 12:46:22 PM EDT
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If you visit this site for boobies, you're doing it wrong.
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This, there are a million sites for boobies.  Hell, if I want to look at boobies...

Image search "boobs gif" and I get pages upon pages.  It's wonderful.

I am in this thread for funny (or sad) commentary on boobs.  I for one am glad we can't post overt porn in regular threads, it would be flooded.

I remember some forum where people could post animated gifs as sig lines, it was annoying as hell.

I should be noted... we also have a thread going about feet guys,  if you weren't aware.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 12:56:50 PM EDT
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Wow, that's so thoughtful of her.

I wish this was more of a thing overall.
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I wish this was more of a thing overall.
Scientific fact: Just the sight of boobies can break an aggressive mindset and lower blood pressure.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 12:57:12 PM EDT
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She had clothes on!!!!!!! That was the most "appropriate" picture I could find.


ETA: Anyone remember Audra Mitchell??


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Why yes, yes I do.  Fucking 56k modem took forever to show me her hangers for the first time.   What a glorious time to be alive.   Gen X FTMFW!
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 1:03:47 PM EDT
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I am very aware of that, but of all the things that I would want to change about myself to be more "normal" I wouldn't want to change any of that.

If I was indeed suffering from low T (as many have brought up) and having that supplemented all of a sudden made me feel the urge to hang out at strip clubs, bars, casinos and feel the urge to actually want to have kids then I'd be discontinuing testosterone supplementation ASAP. Same with anxiety medication.
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Depends on your definition of "ANY" I suppose... I've not seen them in real life.

We went over this in another thread not that long ago, but no one usually remembers me in GD which might be a good thing.

Go to a titty bar man. They might even rub them in your face. Even gays like tiddies.


Not happening, I'm proud to be one of the few guys that have never went into a place like that... I feel the same about bars and casinos.



Unless you are 7 years old that ain't normal.


I am very aware of that, but of all the things that I would want to change about myself to be more "normal" I wouldn't want to change any of that.

If I was indeed suffering from low T (as many have brought up) and having that supplemented all of a sudden made me feel the urge to hang out at strip clubs, bars, casinos and feel the urge to actually want to have kids then I'd be discontinuing testosterone supplementation ASAP. Same with anxiety medication.


Not saying you should want to hang out in strip clubs. But it's pretty fucking odd for a man not to want to see a naked woman. And to climb on board once in awhile.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 1:26:58 PM EDT
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Not saying you should want to hang out in strip clubs. But it's pretty fucking odd for a man not to want to see a naked woman. And to climb on board once in awhile.
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Depends on your definition of "ANY" I suppose... I've not seen them in real life.

We went over this in another thread not that long ago, but no one usually remembers me in GD which might be a good thing.

Go to a titty bar man. They might even rub them in your face. Even gays like tiddies.


Not happening, I'm proud to be one of the few guys that have never went into a place like that... I feel the same about bars and casinos.



Unless you are 7 years old that ain't normal.


I am very aware of that, but of all the things that I would want to change about myself to be more "normal" I wouldn't want to change any of that.

If I was indeed suffering from low T (as many have brought up) and having that supplemented all of a sudden made me feel the urge to hang out at strip clubs, bars, casinos and feel the urge to actually want to have kids then I'd be discontinuing testosterone supplementation ASAP. Same with anxiety medication.


Not saying you should want to hang out in strip clubs. But it's pretty fucking odd for a man not to want to see a naked woman. And to climb on board once in awhile.


Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my prior posts, but I don't believe that I've said I don't, or wouldn't want to see a woman naked. I actually would if it was one that I actually found myself attracted to. I just haven felt any attraction towards 99% of the women I've known or seen, so I don't really want to know most of them in any way beyond that... Basically if I'm not attracted to them when they have their clothes on in normal surface level interactions with them, then that doesn't at all change when they aren't wearing any clothes at all.

Attraction is just on deeper level than physical appearance for me.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 1:39:19 PM EDT
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I am very aware of that, but of all the things that I would want to change about myself to be more "normal" I wouldn't want to change any of that.

If I was indeed suffering from low T (as many have brought up) and having that supplemented all of a sudden made me feel the urge to hang out at strip clubs, bars and casinos then I'd be discontinuing testosterone supplementation. Same with anxiety medication.
Are your objections to such establishments moral or religious?


I'm not really the religious type, though I do feel that there might be something out there and some truth to the things in the Bible.

For places like bars and casinos, they are just places to waste money and form bad habits. And people that I've personally been around that frequent those kinds of places are not the types of people that I like at all. So it's kind of an association thing. For strip clubs it's the same thing to me, just worse, plus I just don't care to see random naked women that I don't know or feel an attraction for on any level.

My social anxiety also plays into it to as I don't like socializing just in general, but in this case it's a secondary consideration to the above for places like that.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 1:40:43 PM EDT
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I am very aware of that, but of all the things that I would want to change about myself to be more "normal" I wouldn't want to change any of that.

If I was indeed suffering from low T (as many have brought up) and having that supplemented all of a sudden made me feel the urge to hang out at strip clubs, bars, casinos and feel the urge to actually want to have kids then I'd be discontinuing testosterone supplementation ASAP. Same with anxiety medication.
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That is some stupid non-logic there.

No one loves boobs more then me. I like them big or small, perky or sagging, young(at least 18) or old. Pretty much any way they come naturally and I've never turned down a chance to see them but that doesn't mean I go out of my way looking for them. I haven't been to a strip club since I was in my 20's and I've never been a bar or casino person and can't tell you the last time I've been to either?

You can love and appreciate something without being obsessed with it. I'd really hate to be you. A little pillow time with a nice looking example of the fairer sex is the most pleasurable thing any of us will ever get to experience in our lifetime. Not saying it's the only thing in life or that you should be obsessed with it but never having it and not caring about it is sad beyond words.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 1:44:33 PM EDT
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Scientific fact: Just the sight of boobies can break an aggressive mindset and lower blood pressure.
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Wow, that's so thoughtful of her.

I wish this was more of a thing overall.
Scientific fact: Just the sight of boobies can break an aggressive mindset and lower blood pressure.


My wife would pull up her shirt when she knew she was losing an argument, that usually stopped the argument altogether.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 1:49:41 PM EDT
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That's simply through the power of observation gleaned through over 40 years of existence... It's really not difficult when you've worked around "normal" guys and read through thread after thread here of "normal" guys saying exactly what they like and don't like.

I'm pretty much able to state the obvious in that regard.
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I think that's one of the big issues with my social anxiety is that I'm just too self aware. I need less self awareness. And I know that's not showing here, but in person it's pretty obvious... Online is the only socializing I do.

I've considered everything you brought up, I just haven't made any moves in getting any treatment for the anxiety. The anxiety is actually the thing that stops me from seeking any help in that area. Though I don't believe the anxiety issue has anything to do with how I feel about women. I think it's a separate issue, but I don't think it's bad at all. I'm not down on women, I think they're fine. I've just not been attracted to all that many of them through the years. I don't think there's anything especially wrong with that. However, I understand it's not normal. Every guy here seems to be attracted to every female in existence. Sure most have preferences, but most guys will set aside there preferences and go for just about any woman that will have anything to do with them any day of the week it seems.

For a guy that doesn't seem to have a zipper on his pants you sure seem to purport to know about what men who are actually getting laid like or don't like.


That's simply through the power of observation gleaned through over 40 years of existence... It's really not difficult when you've worked around "normal" guys and read through thread after thread here of "normal" guys saying exactly what they like and don't like.

I'm pretty much able to state the obvious in that regard.

No, you're not able to state the obvious because you have no idea what is or isn't normal. At best you can recognize your own abnormality, but that doesn't extend to anyone else's situation.  You're welcome to live your life as an asexual if you wish but you're in no position to tell anyone, anything about sexuality.
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That is some stupid non-logic there.

No one loves boobs more then me. I like them big or small, perky or sagging, young(at least 18) or old. Pretty much any way they come naturally and I've never turned down a chance to see them but that doesn't mean I go out of my way looking for them. I haven't been to a strip club since I was in my 20's and I've never been a bar or casino person and can't tell you the last time I've been to either?

You can love and appreciate something without being obsessed with it. I'd really hate to be you. A little pillow time with a nice looking example of the fairer sex is the most pleasurable thing any of us will ever get to experience in our lifetime. Not saying it's the only thing in life or that you should be obsessed with it but never having it and not caring about it is sad beyond words.
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I am very aware of that, but of all the things that I would want to change about myself to be more "normal" I wouldn't want to change any of that.

If I was indeed suffering from low T (as many have brought up) and having that supplemented all of a sudden made me feel the urge to hang out at strip clubs, bars, casinos and feel the urge to actually want to have kids then I'd be discontinuing testosterone supplementation ASAP. Same with anxiety medication.

That is some stupid non-logic there.

No one loves boobs more then me. I like them big or small, perky or sagging, young(at least 18) or old. Pretty much any way they come naturally and I've never turned down a chance to see them but that doesn't mean I go out of my way looking for them. I haven't been to a strip club since I was in my 20's and I've never been a bar or casino person and can't tell you the last time I've been to either?

You can love and appreciate something without being obsessed with it. I'd really hate to be you. A little pillow time with a nice looking example of the fairer sex is the most pleasurable thing any of us will ever get to experience in our lifetime. Not saying it's the only thing in life or that you should be obsessed with it but never having it and not caring about it is sad beyond words.

Yeah, and he says he's proud of this - so something is mentally broken with him.

OP - Did you elude to being on anxiety medication as well?
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 2:04:48 PM EDT
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That is some stupid non-logic there.

No one loves boobs more then me. I like them big or small, perky or sagging, young(at least 18) or old. Pretty much any way they come naturally and I've never turned down a chance to see them but that doesn't mean I go out of my way looking for them. I haven't been to a strip club since I was in my 20's and I've never been a bar or casino person and can't tell you the last time I've been to either?

You can love and appreciate something without being obsessed with it. I'd really hate to be you. A little pillow time with a nice looking example of the fairer sex is the most pleasurable thing any of us will ever get to experience in our lifetime. Not saying it's the only thing in life or that you should be obsessed with it but never having it and not caring about it is sad beyond words.
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I am very aware of that, but of all the things that I would want to change about myself to be more "normal" I wouldn't want to change any of that.

If I was indeed suffering from low T (as many have brought up) and having that supplemented all of a sudden made me feel the urge to hang out at strip clubs, bars, casinos and feel the urge to actually want to have kids then I'd be discontinuing testosterone supplementation ASAP. Same with anxiety medication.

That is some stupid non-logic there.

No one loves boobs more then me. I like them big or small, perky or sagging, young(at least 18) or old. Pretty much any way they come naturally and I've never turned down a chance to see them but that doesn't mean I go out of my way looking for them. I haven't been to a strip club since I was in my 20's and I've never been a bar or casino person and can't tell you the last time I've been to either?

You can love and appreciate something without being obsessed with it. I'd really hate to be you. A little pillow time with a nice looking example of the fairer sex is the most pleasurable thing any of us will ever get to experience in our lifetime. Not saying it's the only thing in life or that you should be obsessed with it but never having it and not caring about it is sad beyond words.


I can see how that from a normal person's perspective that puts a high value on sex would see it as sad, I've never felt that way about it though. I'm sure it's quite the thing to experience, but I've always seen it as the cost is too high (not only in a monetary way) for what you get back from it. It's never seemed worth seeking out because I don't believe my life would be better for it. Maybe I've just seen too many bad examples of how it can go sideways and it's left a bad impression in me.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 2:06:54 PM EDT
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Typical GD. A thread about boobies gets hijacked by a 40yo virgin.
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No, you're not able to state the obvious because you have no idea what is or isn't normal. At best you can recognize your own abnormality, but that doesn't extend to anyone else's situation.  You're welcome to live your life as an asexual if you wish but you're in no position to tell anyone, anything about sexuality.
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I think that's one of the big issues with my social anxiety is that I'm just too self aware. I need less self awareness. And I know that's not showing here, but in person it's pretty obvious... Online is the only socializing I do.

I've considered everything you brought up, I just haven't made any moves in getting any treatment for the anxiety. The anxiety is actually the thing that stops me from seeking any help in that area. Though I don't believe the anxiety issue has anything to do with how I feel about women. I think it's a separate issue, but I don't think it's bad at all. I'm not down on women, I think they're fine. I've just not been attracted to all that many of them through the years. I don't think there's anything especially wrong with that. However, I understand it's not normal. Every guy here seems to be attracted to every female in existence. Sure most have preferences, but most guys will set aside there preferences and go for just about any woman that will have anything to do with them any day of the week it seems.

For a guy that doesn't seem to have a zipper on his pants you sure seem to purport to know about what men who are actually getting laid like or don't like.


That's simply through the power of observation gleaned through over 40 years of existence... It's really not difficult when you've worked around "normal" guys and read through thread after thread here of "normal" guys saying exactly what they like and don't like.

I'm pretty much able to state the obvious in that regard.

No, you're not able to state the obvious because you have no idea what is or isn't normal. At best you can recognize your own abnormality, but that doesn't extend to anyone else's situation.  You're welcome to live your life as an asexual if you wish but you're in no position to tell anyone, anything about sexuality.


Now I'm lost, you are the only one that thinks I'm off in that observation so far.
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research checks out
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Meh face but she really knows how to market her T&A unfortunately these are her meh pics and all her videos violate GD rules. Her butt isn’t my ideal type but she has one and with her figure it gets silly to nitpick

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research checks out
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For me, attraction is initiated by looks (physical attraction). That determines whether I'd be interested in learning more, to see if there's any attraction to the personality. Even if there isn't, it doesn't change the physical attraction. It just means that the personality makes it not worth pursuing anything further.
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Attraction is just on deeper level than physical appearance for me.

For me, attraction is initiated by looks (physical attraction). That determines whether I'd be interested in learning more, to see if there's any attraction to the personality. Even if there isn't, it doesn't change the physical attraction. It just means that the personality makes it not worth pursuing anything further.


That doesn't seem bad or wrong at all. But from what I've seen, most guys will disregard the fact that they don't like the personality of the woman that they find physically attractive and still have sex with her anyways. I can't get behind that level of thinking.
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Yeah, and he says he's proud of this - so something is mentally broken with him.

OP - Did you elude to being on anxiety medication as well?
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I am very aware of that, but of all the things that I would want to change about myself to be more "normal" I wouldn't want to change any of that.

If I was indeed suffering from low T (as many have brought up) and having that supplemented all of a sudden made me feel the urge to hang out at strip clubs, bars, casinos and feel the urge to actually want to have kids then I'd be discontinuing testosterone supplementation ASAP. Same with anxiety medication.

That is some stupid non-logic there.

No one loves boobs more then me. I like them big or small, perky or sagging, young(at least 18) or old. Pretty much any way they come naturally and I've never turned down a chance to see them but that doesn't mean I go out of my way looking for them. I haven't been to a strip club since I was in my 20's and I've never been a bar or casino person and can't tell you the last time I've been to either?

You can love and appreciate something without being obsessed with it. I'd really hate to be you. A little pillow time with a nice looking example of the fairer sex is the most pleasurable thing any of us will ever get to experience in our lifetime. Not saying it's the only thing in life or that you should be obsessed with it but never having it and not caring about it is sad beyond words.

Yeah, and he says he's proud of this - so something is mentally broken with him.

OP - Did you elude to being on anxiety medication as well?


Not on any meds, never have been. I probably should be put on something for anxiety though.
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That doesn't seem bad or wrong at all. But from what I've seen, most guys will disregard the fact that they don't like the personality of the woman that they find physically attractive and still have sex with her anyways. I can't get behind that level of thinking.
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Attraction is just on deeper level than physical appearance for me.

For me, attraction is initiated by looks (physical attraction). That determines whether I'd be interested in learning more, to see if there's any attraction to the personality. Even if there isn't, it doesn't change the physical attraction. It just means that the personality makes it not worth pursuing anything further.


That doesn't seem bad or wrong at all. But from what I've seen, most guys will disregard the fact that they don't like the personality of the woman that they find physically attractive and still have sex with her anyways. I can't get behind that level of thinking.


It's the same mindset of women looking past the fat,ugly and old to fuck the wallet. I will look past personality,wealth and beauty to pound a sweet ass with nice tits...
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I can see how that from a normal person's perspective that puts a high value on sex would see it as sad, I've never felt that way about it though. I'm sure it's quite the thing to experience, but I've always seen it as the cost is too high (not only in a monetary way) for what you get back from it. It's never seemed worth seeking out because I don't believe my life would be better for it. Maybe I've just seen too many bad examples of how it can go sideways and it's left a bad impression in me.
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As someone who's never experienced it, your opinion isn't worth shit and lets be real and just admit that's just how you try to justify it to yourself but it's simply nonsense. For every 1 example of sex having a negative consequences, there are 10k+ examples of people enjoying orgasmic bliss with no downside (other then maybe a wet spot on the bed lol). It's like saying you're not going to drive a car because of all of the car accidents you've heard about or go to the hospital when your sick because people die in hospitals.
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As someone who's never experienced it, your opinion isn't worth shit and lets be real and just admit that's just how you try to justify it to yourself but it's simply nonsense. For every 1 example of sex having a negative consequences, there are 10k+ examples of people enjoying orgasmic bliss with no downside (other then maybe a wet spot on the bed lol). It's like saying you're not going to drive a car because of all of the car accidents you've heard about or go to the hospital when your sick because people die in hospitals.
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I can see how that from a normal person's perspective that puts a high value on sex would see it as sad, I've never felt that way about it though. I'm sure it's quite the thing to experience, but I've always seen it as the cost is too high (not only in a monetary way) for what you get back from it. It's never seemed worth seeking out because I don't believe my life would be better for it. Maybe I've just seen too many bad examples of how it can go sideways and it's left a bad impression in me.

As someone who's never experienced it, your opinion isn't worth shit and lets be real and just admit that's just how you try to justify it to yourself but it's simply nonsense. For every 1 example of sex having a negative consequences, there are 10k+ examples of people enjoying orgasmic bliss with no downside (other then maybe a wet spot on the bed lol). It's like saying you're not going to drive a car because of all of the car accidents you've heard about or go to the hospital when your sick because people die in hospitals.


I think the problem here is that it's very difficult to see things from other people's perspectives. This simple thread about boobs (that happens here quite often) was hijacked because no one can really see things from my perspective and I guess I can't really see things from theirs. It doesn't seem to matter how many ways or words we use to try to explain things to each other as it will never click.

The only thing we always agree on in these threads is that I need professional help and medication.
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And yet, as you have said multiple times in this thread, you aren't going to seek it.
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Now I'm lost, you are the only one that thinks I'm off in that observation so far.
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I think that's one of the big issues with my social anxiety is that I'm just too self aware. I need less self awareness. And I know that's not showing here, but in person it's pretty obvious... Online is the only socializing I do.

I've considered everything you brought up, I just haven't made any moves in getting any treatment for the anxiety. The anxiety is actually the thing that stops me from seeking any help in that area. Though I don't believe the anxiety issue has anything to do with how I feel about women. I think it's a separate issue, but I don't think it's bad at all. I'm not down on women, I think they're fine. I've just not been attracted to all that many of them through the years. I don't think there's anything especially wrong with that. However, I understand it's not normal. Every guy here seems to be attracted to every female in existence. Sure most have preferences, but most guys will set aside there preferences and go for just about any woman that will have anything to do with them any day of the week it seems.

For a guy that doesn't seem to have a zipper on his pants you sure seem to purport to know about what men who are actually getting laid like or don't like.


That's simply through the power of observation gleaned through over 40 years of existence... It's really not difficult when you've worked around "normal" guys and read through thread after thread here of "normal" guys saying exactly what they like and don't like.

I'm pretty much able to state the obvious in that regard.

No, you're not able to state the obvious because you have no idea what is or isn't normal. At best you can recognize your own abnormality, but that doesn't extend to anyone else's situation.  You're welcome to live your life as an asexual if you wish but you're in no position to tell anyone, anything about sexuality.


Now I'm lost, you are the only one that thinks I'm off in that observation so far.

Yes, I agree. You're lost.
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Not always. Calories are a thing. The bigger problem is if you have girls they get a lot of unwanted attention starting in middle school. So far mine realize most men are pigs. Makes it easy to get them on board with self defense at least. One is really disappointed she hasn’t at least got to pepper spray someone.  
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You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Sometimes I wonder if women love boobies even more than men do. If one were to do some scientific research about adult breastfeeding and lactation erotica, IMO it seems amazing that most of it involves two or more women, rather than men and women.


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The ANR/ABF folks always swear it's not a sexual thing.

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Ma pics gotst reeeemoved.
Will havetah finds some dat are OK.
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I’ve always loved women who work with what they have and they’re so good at it you do t even care about stuff you thought were deal breakers. I love C and D cups but Debbie was so good at making you not care she wasn’t sporting huge melons. Mesmerizing!
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Not so fast.
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The only thing we always agree on in these threads is that I need professional help and medication.
And yet, as you have said multiple times in this thread, you aren't going to seek it.


I haven't been to willing to seek it up to this point, but I haven't ruled it out completely yet... I think It's very likely that I will reach a point where I ask about getting on some anxiety medication because my day to day functioning just trying to do normal things is very handicapped and getting worse.
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I think the problem here is that it's very difficult to see things from other people's perspectives. This simple thread about boobs (that happens here quite often) was hijacked because no one can really see things from my perspective and I guess I can't really see things from theirs. It doesn't seem to matter how many ways or words we use to try to explain things to each other as it will never click.

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I find your logic on this topic off.  How can you say you do or don't like something you have not tried.  Its like saying you don't like pizza but you have never tried it.  You try it, then you can decide if you like it or not.  Seems like a strip club would be a worthwhile visit.  Then you can say it is or isnt for you.   I don't mean being a lounge lizard in a strip club, but going, checking out the ladies, and then evaluate your interest.  I find it odd you can say you only find 1% of women attractive.  

I am happily married but my wife and I can both see a beautiful woman and appreciate her beauty.  Said woman could be bat shit crazy but that does not erase the fact that physically she may be stunning.
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I think that's one of the big issues with my social anxiety is that I'm just too self aware. I need less self awareness. And I know that's not showing here, but in person it's pretty obvious... Online is the only socializing I do.

I've considered everything you brought up, I just haven't made any moves in getting any treatment for the anxiety. The anxiety is actually the thing that stops me from seeking any help in that area. Though I don't believe the anxiety issue has anything to do with how I feel about women. I think it's a separate issue, but I don't think it's bad at all. I'm not down on women, I think they're fine. I've just not been attracted to all that many of them through the years. I don't think there's anything especially wrong with that. However, I understand it's not normal. Every guy here seems to be attracted to every female in existence. Sure most have preferences, but most guys will set aside there preferences and go for just about any woman that will have anything to do with them any day of the week it seems.

For a guy that doesn't seem to have a zipper on his pants you sure seem to purport to know about what men who are actually getting laid like or don't like.


That's simply through the power of observation gleaned through over 40 years of existence... It's really not difficult when you've worked around "normal" guys and read through thread after thread here of "normal" guys saying exactly what they like and don't like.

I'm pretty much able to state the obvious in that regard.

No, you're not able to state the obvious because you have no idea what is or isn't normal. At best you can recognize your own abnormality, but that doesn't extend to anyone else's situation.  You're welcome to live your life as an asexual if you wish but you're in no position to tell anyone, anything about sexuality.


Now I'm lost, you are the only one that thinks I'm off in that observation so far.

Yes, I agree. You're lost.


I'm honestly curious about this quoted from you above: "you're not able to state the obvious because you have no idea what is or isn't normal. At best you can recognize your own abnormality"

I'm not trying to be argumentative or over-assuming, but something (not sure what exactly) about the way I've tried to explain my view on things here in this thread seems to have offended you in some way. But anyways, if I have managed to recognize my own abnormalities, then how have I figured that out if I didn't also figure out what the normal baseline is for the majority guys out there? I am open to the possibility that I'm way off the mark on what's normal. But I had to have formulated some idea of what normal is to come to the realization that I am not normal. Or was I just so abnormal that it was obvious to myself without having anything to compare myself to?

How about this, what is your view of what normal is? I'm here to learn more than anything and I'm fine with being corrected when I'm way off the mark. If my view is incorrect on what normal is then it's also possible that my assessment of myself is completely off the mark and I'm not as weird as I believe I am.
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That is like the whole shouldering-a-brace thing...

What exactly defines "G-rated"? I looked it up...Websters, "having a rating of G : suitable to be seen by children : having no violence, offensive language, or sexual activity". Do children see boobs - shit yeah. Hell, they suck on them early on in life. Are boobs violent - no, they actually exude warmth and friendliness. They cannot speak so they have no offensive language to give. Without the ability to speak, hands to sign with, or any other way to communicate (other than saying when it's cold in the room), they are incapable of exercising their First Amendment rights under our Constitution...they suffer and are not recognized. Sexual activity - I say no. Boobs, in of themselves, are not required in fornication. They are appendages perfectly designed by the Almighty to provide nutrition to children. That's it. If they are used during the sex act, it is incidental to the act, in much the same way hands which are not designed for intercourse, but just happened to be used during the act. Therefore, boobies are as innocent as hands and deserve the same exposure protection.

Cleavage? Cleavage has been allowed before, much as the braces were. The pictures are in common circulation through GD, as braces are in common use throughout the US. I contend both therefore are permissible under the law.

Excessively short skirts? Again, where's the line? Like shouldering a brace. Is it at the knee? Above the knee? How far above the knee? What defines the area of a shoulder exactly? If I move a 1/4" toward the pectoralis, is it not considered shouldering anymore?

It is also not our fault we like looking at them. It is actually a built-in mechanism dating to when man first walked erect. The boobs were a sign of a healthy breeding partner who would be able to nourish our offspring. We simply have not lost that programming over the centuries. Not our fault.

Fellow GDers, I say to you boobies are good, in common display, and are acceptable here.*


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I’ve always loved women who work with what they have and they’re so good at it you do t even care about stuff you thought were deal breakers. I love C and D cups but Debbie was so good at making you not care she wasn’t sporting huge melons. Mesmerizing!
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Hah. I was thinking she looks like a dangerously well funded cocaine aficionado. Different strokes.

I’ve known my wife since high school when she had a lean athletic build. She’s almost 50 and still slender but has softened up. No cellulite but no muscles showing except a little in the legs. Weird thing is after five pregnancies her belly has gone soft and it makes me crazy. Never had any belly look sexy to me before. Maybe because of the baby making that made it that way?
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I find your logic on this topic off.  How can you say you do or don't like something you have not tried.  Its like saying you don't like pizza but you have never tried it.  You try it, then you can decide if you like it or not.  Seems like a strip club would be a worthwhile visit.  Then you can say it is or isnt for you.   I don't mean being a lounge lizard in a strip club, but going, checking out the ladies, and then evaluate your interest.  I find it odd you can say you only find 1% of women attractive.
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I find your logic on this topic off.  How can you say you do or don't like something you have not tried.  Its like saying you don't like pizza but you have never tried it.  You try it, then you can decide if you like it or not.  Seems like a strip club would be a worthwhile visit.  Then you can say it is or isnt for you.   I don't mean being a lounge lizard in a strip club, but going, checking out the ladies, and then evaluate your interest.  I find it odd you can say you only find 1% of women attractive.


Well, you bring up a decent point... However, I oddly do the same thing in regards to objects like guns, cars and tools. Or activities like jobs, sports, exercise and whatever else you can think of. And foods of course. There are a lot of things I haven't tried that I'm completely convinced that I wouldn't like. My aversion to strip clubs is maybe mostly related to anxiety (I detest and avoid social gathering places), but I also don't like the association with the people that I don't like that do frequent strip clubs.

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I am happily married but my wife and I can both see a beautiful woman and appreciate her beauty.  Said woman could be bat shit crazy but that does not erase the fact that physically she may be stunning.


I believe I'm only attracted to so few women because I become attracted to them completely opposite to what's normal. Normal to me is looks first, personality second. The way I become attracted is personality first, looks second. And I don't date/socialize, so getting a good view of a woman's personality is very rare.
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It's the same mindset of women looking past the fat,ugly and old to fuck the wallet. I will look past personality,wealth and beauty to pound a sweet ass with nice tits...
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Attraction is just on deeper level than physical appearance for me.

For me, attraction is initiated by looks (physical attraction). That determines whether I'd be interested in learning more, to see if there's any attraction to the personality. Even if there isn't, it doesn't change the physical attraction. It just means that the personality makes it not worth pursuing anything further.


That doesn't seem bad or wrong at all. But from what I've seen, most guys will disregard the fact that they don't like the personality of the woman that they find physically attractive and still have sex with her anyways. I can't get behind that level of thinking.


It's the same mindset of women looking past the fat,ugly and old to fuck the wallet. I will look past personality,wealth and beauty to pound a sweet ass with nice tits...


Now that just sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.
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I should have qualified what I meant;  most guys are talking about who they'd have sex with, but I don't do that (...anymore. I was a little looser for a while, after divorcing my first wife). I find someone with the looks, then maybe I ask them out. From there on, if I decide that it isn't someone I'd marry, I end it. Even though the desire is there, I don't keep going out with someone, without the intention/hope for more.

Even back in high school, I've never dated more than one person at a time. It works or it doesn't, and then it's time to move on.
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Attraction is just on deeper level than physical appearance for me.

For me, attraction is initiated by looks (physical attraction). That determines whether I'd be interested in learning more, to see if there's any attraction to the personality. Even if there isn't, it doesn't change the physical attraction. It just means that the personality makes it not worth pursuing anything further.


That doesn't seem bad or wrong at all. But from what I've seen, most guys will disregard the fact that they don't like the personality of the woman that they find physically attractive and still have sex with her anyways. I can't get behind that level of thinking.

I should have qualified what I meant;  most guys are talking about who they'd have sex with, but I don't do that (...anymore. I was a little looser for a while, after divorcing my first wife). I find someone with the looks, then maybe I ask them out. From there on, if I decide that it isn't someone I'd marry, I end it. Even though the desire is there, I don't keep going out with someone, without the intention/hope for more.

Even back in high school, I've never dated more than one person at a time. It works or it doesn't, and then it's time to move on.


All sounds completely fine to me, but how many dates did it usually take you to figure out that you weren't compatible/didn't like the personality of a woman before moving on?

I'd like to think that it's possible to figure that out within 20 minutes of only one date with a woman, but I'm sure I have no real grasp on that. In my interactions with people (mostly guys, not in a gay way) I can usually figure out that I either like or don't like them pretty quickly.
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I'm honestly curious about this quoted from you above: "you're not able to state the obvious because you have no idea what is or isn't normal. At best you can recognize your own abnormality"

I'm not trying to be argumentative or over-assuming, but something (not sure what exactly) about the way I've tried to explain my view on things here in this thread seems to have offended you in some way. But anyways, if I have managed to recognize my own abnormalities, then how have I figured that out if I didn't also figure out what the normal baseline is for the majority guys out there? I am open to the possibility that I'm way off the mark on what's normal. But I had to have formulated some idea of what normal is to come to the realization that I am not normal. Or was I just so abnormal that it was obvious to myself without having anything to compare myself to?

How about this, what is your view of what normal is? I'm here to learn more than anything and I'm fine with being corrected when I'm way off the mark. If my view is incorrect on what normal is than it's also possible that my assessment of myself is completely off the mark and I'm not as weird as I believe I am.
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I think that's one of the big issues with my social anxiety is that I'm just too self aware. I need less self awareness. And I know that's not showing here, but in person it's pretty obvious... Online is the only socializing I do.

I've considered everything you brought up, I just haven't made any moves in getting any treatment for the anxiety. The anxiety is actually the thing that stops me from seeking any help in that area. Though I don't believe the anxiety issue has anything to do with how I feel about women. I think it's a separate issue, but I don't think it's bad at all. I'm not down on women, I think they're fine. I've just not been attracted to all that many of them through the years. I don't think there's anything especially wrong with that. However, I understand it's not normal. Every guy here seems to be attracted to every female in existence. Sure most have preferences, but most guys will set aside there preferences and go for just about any woman that will have anything to do with them any day of the week it seems.

For a guy that doesn't seem to have a zipper on his pants you sure seem to purport to know about what men who are actually getting laid like or don't like.


That's simply through the power of observation gleaned through over 40 years of existence... It's really not difficult when you've worked around "normal" guys and read through thread after thread here of "normal" guys saying exactly what they like and don't like.

I'm pretty much able to state the obvious in that regard.

No, you're not able to state the obvious because you have no idea what is or isn't normal. At best you can recognize your own abnormality, but that doesn't extend to anyone else's situation.  You're welcome to live your life as an asexual if you wish but you're in no position to tell anyone, anything about sexuality.


Now I'm lost, you are the only one that thinks I'm off in that observation so far.

Yes, I agree. You're lost.


I'm honestly curious about this quoted from you above: "you're not able to state the obvious because you have no idea what is or isn't normal. At best you can recognize your own abnormality"

I'm not trying to be argumentative or over-assuming, but something (not sure what exactly) about the way I've tried to explain my view on things here in this thread seems to have offended you in some way. But anyways, if I have managed to recognize my own abnormalities, then how have I figured that out if I didn't also figure out what the normal baseline is for the majority guys out there? I am open to the possibility that I'm way off the mark on what's normal. But I had to have formulated some idea of what normal is to come to the realization that I am not normal. Or was I just so abnormal that it was obvious to myself without having anything to compare myself to?

How about this, what is your view of what normal is? I'm here to learn more than anything and I'm fine with being corrected when I'm way off the mark. If my view is incorrect on what normal is than it's also possible that my assessment of myself is completely off the mark and I'm not as weird as I believe I am.

You talk too much and you think with an inexperienced dick, which means you have nothing useful to say about getting laid or having a relationship with a woman.  Your life experience is limited to being asexual. Go get laid, see a therapist, get meds, or buy a table dance at the titty bar. Until any of those things happen, you're no more useful on this topic than a small child that's wandered into the room.
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Now that just sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.
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Attraction is just on deeper level than physical appearance for me.

For me, attraction is initiated by looks (physical attraction). That determines whether I'd be interested in learning more, to see if there's any attraction to the personality. Even if there isn't, it doesn't change the physical attraction. It just means that the personality makes it not worth pursuing anything further.


That doesn't seem bad or wrong at all. But from what I've seen, most guys will disregard the fact that they don't like the personality of the woman that they find physically attractive and still have sex with her anyways. I can't get behind that level of thinking.


It's the same mindset of women looking past the fat,ugly and old to fuck the wallet. I will look past personality,wealth and beauty to pound a sweet ass with nice tits...


Now that just sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.


Only if you marry them....
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All sounds completely fine to me, but how many dates did it usually take you to figure out that you weren't compatible/didn't like the personality of a woman before moving on?

I'd like to think that it's possible to figure that out within 20 minutes of only one date with a woman, but I'm sure I have no real grasp on that. In my interactions with people (mostly guys, not in a gay way) I can usually figure out that I either like or don't like them pretty quickly.
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After reading your posts and gathering a picture of what your life is like, I am in awe. Your obedience to your anxiety and morals are commendable, for sure.

But I believe the anxiety you have is making most of your social decisions. Now, the question to ask yourself is, what do you want in life? Lets say you want a friend, and you two make plans to meet up and have some beer. Then your anxiety comes in right? So, in the moment, do you want to achieve your goal OR is it just anxiety? When I had anxiety bad, (talking puking before important event, ex. interview, dates, big meetings) I would let it have power over me. I would not eat anything so I didnt have anything to puke out beforehand. It was miserable and I had to get medicated for it. Your reaction to a trigger is one of the most important aspects to controlling anxiety. It is a separate function of your life that ultimately needs to be eliminated for you to acheive your goals and live the life you want, not what you have. You do have the power to change and reinvent your life, mental programming, and change your persona. Just look at people who lose drastic amounts of weight, for an example. Good luck man. You seem like a smart guy-I bet you would be a good dad eventually.
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You talk too much and you think with an inexperienced dick, which means you have nothing useful to say about getting laid or having a relationship with a woman.  Your life experience is limited to being asexual. Go get laid, see a therapist, get meds, or buy a table dance at the titty bar. Until any of those things happen, you're no more useful on this topic than a small child that's wandered into the room.
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I think that's one of the big issues with my social anxiety is that I'm just too self aware. I need less self awareness. And I know that's not showing here, but in person it's pretty obvious... Online is the only socializing I do.

I've considered everything you brought up, I just haven't made any moves in getting any treatment for the anxiety. The anxiety is actually the thing that stops me from seeking any help in that area. Though I don't believe the anxiety issue has anything to do with how I feel about women. I think it's a separate issue, but I don't think it's bad at all. I'm not down on women, I think they're fine. I've just not been attracted to all that many of them through the years. I don't think there's anything especially wrong with that. However, I understand it's not normal. Every guy here seems to be attracted to every female in existence. Sure most have preferences, but most guys will set aside there preferences and go for just about any woman that will have anything to do with them any day of the week it seems.

For a guy that doesn't seem to have a zipper on his pants you sure seem to purport to know about what men who are actually getting laid like or don't like.


That's simply through the power of observation gleaned through over 40 years of existence... It's really not difficult when you've worked around "normal" guys and read through thread after thread here of "normal" guys saying exactly what they like and don't like.

I'm pretty much able to state the obvious in that regard.

No, you're not able to state the obvious because you have no idea what is or isn't normal. At best you can recognize your own abnormality, but that doesn't extend to anyone else's situation.  You're welcome to live your life as an asexual if you wish but you're in no position to tell anyone, anything about sexuality.


Now I'm lost, you are the only one that thinks I'm off in that observation so far.

Yes, I agree. You're lost.


I'm honestly curious about this quoted from you above: "you're not able to state the obvious because you have no idea what is or isn't normal. At best you can recognize your own abnormality"

I'm not trying to be argumentative or over-assuming, but something (not sure what exactly) about the way I've tried to explain my view on things here in this thread seems to have offended you in some way. But anyways, if I have managed to recognize my own abnormalities, then how have I figured that out if I didn't also figure out what the normal baseline is for the majority guys out there? I am open to the possibility that I'm way off the mark on what's normal. But I had to have formulated some idea of what normal is to come to the realization that I am not normal. Or was I just so abnormal that it was obvious to myself without having anything to compare myself to?

How about this, what is your view of what normal is? I'm here to learn more than anything and I'm fine with being corrected when I'm way off the mark. If my view is incorrect on what normal is than it's also possible that my assessment of myself is completely off the mark and I'm not as weird as I believe I am.

You talk too much and you think with an inexperienced dick, which means you have nothing useful to say about getting laid or having a relationship with a woman.  Your life experience is limited to being asexual. Go get laid, see a therapist, get meds, or buy a table dance at the titty bar. Until any of those things happen, you're no more useful on this topic than a small child that's wandered into the room.


How can I have a rational conversation with a response like that? I was at least open to it.
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You need to remove yourself from this thread as it has been side tracked long enough so we can get back to the purpose of the thread. The celebration of the female body.

If this thread was going to be side tracked it should have been by the OEM females meaning no pickle voicing their outrage that cleavage is so sexual or offensive that it cannot be shown. They should object to the hypocrisy given men here can show off their shirtless bodies under the guise that they are sharing how their workouts are transforming their bodies when the reality is that it is a stealth attempt to get dates with other men. This policy is discriminatory, this policy suppresses not only the female members but all females and it should not be tolerated.  We need to rise up in solidarity with the females of our species.  
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I think that's one of the big issues with my social anxiety is that I'm just too self aware. I need less self awareness. And I know that's not showing here, but in person it's pretty obvious... Online is the only socializing I do.

I've considered everything you brought up, I just haven't made any moves in getting any treatment for the anxiety. The anxiety is actually the thing that stops me from seeking any help in that area. Though I don't believe the anxiety issue has anything to do with how I feel about women. I think it's a separate issue, but I don't think it's bad at all. I'm not down on women, I think they're fine. I've just not been attracted to all that many of them through the years. I don't think there's anything especially wrong with that. However, I understand it's not normal. Every guy here seems to be attracted to every female in existence. Sure most have preferences, but most guys will set aside there preferences and go for just about any woman that will have anything to do with them any day of the week it seems.

For a guy that doesn't seem to have a zipper on his pants you sure seem to purport to know about what men who are actually getting laid like or don't like.


That's simply through the power of observation gleaned through over 40 years of existence... It's really not difficult when you've worked around "normal" guys and read through thread after thread here of "normal" guys saying exactly what they like and don't like.

I'm pretty much able to state the obvious in that regard.

No, you're not able to state the obvious because you have no idea what is or isn't normal. At best you can recognize your own abnormality, but that doesn't extend to anyone else's situation.  You're welcome to live your life as an asexual if you wish but you're in no position to tell anyone, anything about sexuality.


Now I'm lost, you are the only one that thinks I'm off in that observation so far.

Yes, I agree. You're lost.


I'm honestly curious about this quoted from you above: "you're not able to state the obvious because you have no idea what is or isn't normal. At best you can recognize your own abnormality"

I'm not trying to be argumentative or over-assuming, but something (not sure what exactly) about the way I've tried to explain my view on things here in this thread seems to have offended you in some way. But anyways, if I have managed to recognize my own abnormalities, then how have I figured that out if I didn't also figure out what the normal baseline is for the majority guys out there? I am open to the possibility that I'm way off the mark on what's normal. But I had to have formulated some idea of what normal is to come to the realization that I am not normal. Or was I just so abnormal that it was obvious to myself without having anything to compare myself to?

How about this, what is your view of what normal is? I'm here to learn more than anything and I'm fine with being corrected when I'm way off the mark. If my view is incorrect on what normal is than it's also possible that my assessment of myself is completely off the mark and I'm not as weird as I believe I am.

You talk too much and you think with an inexperienced dick, which means you have nothing useful to say about getting laid or having a relationship with a woman.  Your life experience is limited to being asexual. Go get laid, see a therapist, get meds, or buy a table dance at the titty bar. Until any of those things happen, you're no more useful on this topic than a small child that's wandered into the room.


How can I have a rational conversation with a response like that? I was at least open to it.

You're like Deej v.2.0 - you keep thinking there's some discussion to be had about a subject which you have repeatedly stated you have no basis, experience, or even desire to gain experience in and keep banging on about your anxiety.  Take a hint already.
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