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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:31:51 PM EDT
I am a fan of that antique caliber family, .38S&W, .38spl & .357 Magnum. I have alway fancied one day having a lever gun to go with my chief's specials, my model 10, and my 686.
Henry sells a 16" carbine (7rds) and a 20" rifle (10rds). Ballistics by the Inch seems to show that 16" is the sweet spot with velocity dropping off in longer barrels. My first question is: Will I die if I only have 7 .357 rounds on tap? My second is: Will I die if I have a non- rimfire Henry? My 3rd question is: Does anyone have any thing they want to offer as far as advice? |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:35:52 PM EDT
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Put a eotech on it
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:36:59 PM EDT
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Marlin or Winchester if you can afford it, Uberti 1873 is worth a look.
I’ve fallen back in love .38/.357. Been reloading a lot of it and shoot 1000 plus a month. Mostly thru my Python. You will not die. The .357 will get the job done. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:38:47 PM EDT
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One of my first centerfire guns was a Rossi carbine in .38/.357 in 1988ish. Learned to reload .38/.357. Sold it to fund other things. Regretted it ever since, and haven't come full circle yet, but probably will buy one again someday. .357 in a rifle tube is nothing to sneeze at.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:41:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:41:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: chase45]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By manowar669: One of my first centerfire guns was a Rossi carbine in .38/.357 in 1988ish. Learned to reload .38/.357. Sold it to fund other things. Regretted it ever since, and haven't come full circle yet, but probably will buy one again someday. .357 in a rifle tube is nothing to sneeze at. 125Gr you can really make some speed 2300+ FPS 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:42:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase45: Put a eotech on it https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161977/1000004987-3144861.jpg I love that you post this in every lever gun thread Watching the purists get butthurt over tactical lever guns is worth the price of admission |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:42:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Buckshot4U]
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I watched too many John Wayne movies a few years back and decided I had to have a pistol cartridge lever gun. I decided on a 16" .357 Rossi Model 92. I bought mine used off of GB, and it's old enough that it does not have the safety. Unfortunately, I have only taken it out shooting once. On my single range trip, it was a blast to shoot and I thought it was extremely accurate for an open sighted 16" pistol cartridge iron. With my limited experrience, I am very happy with it.
A few random thoughts: some of the 92's specifically warn not to shoot .38 Specials in them. I've only tried .357 Mags in mine and it ate everything. My dad has a Henry .357 and my BIL has a Henry .44, and they both seem like solide irons as well, I just wanted the nostalgia of a 92. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:44:24 PM EDT
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Do it.
I just joined the .357 lever gun master race. Got me the Rossi Stainless with Brazilian Hardwood. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:45:38 PM EDT
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I have a Henry .357 with a 20" barrel and a Rossi with the 16" barrel. I shoot the Rossi most of the time.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:46:07 PM EDT
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Depends on how much your want to spend, but work a Henry's action before deciding.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:48:52 PM EDT
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357 is cheap to shoot and relaxing since it feels so anemic in a rifle. 38spl is cheap and often subsonic in a rifle if you have a silencer.
Multiple guns in the same caliber is handy and 357 will kill the hell out of some paper targets. But 44 is always better than 357 in a rifle. I just sold my last 357 rifle this week in the EE, only have 44 and 45 now. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:49:44 PM EDT
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:50:05 PM EDT
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I have a Henry rifle length. It’s what the shop had when I got the urge. I wish I had the carbine but I’m never going to be on horseback or actually carrying it so for the range it’s fine. The most it will see is range and maybe a cabin gun when I’m at our land but more for the nostalgia than anything. But I enjoy the Henry. I did just handle the marlin 94. Sweet rifle too. I’d personally go with one of those.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:51:49 PM EDT
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I've yet to put my hands on one yet. I have a .22 Henry that I like very much. Full Colibri plinker out my home office window.
I'll have to look at other makers but I'm liking 16" the more I think about it. Sadly I'm in Commiefornia so treading a barrel for a quite gun makes no sense. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:51:54 PM EDT
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I picked up a Henry Big Boy carbine in .357 a few years ago just for plinkin. Worth every penny, shoots like a dream. It's my first Henry and I would definitely buy another.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:52:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SAE]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SiVisPacem: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/242045/38_and_357_jpg-3198574.JPG Do it! (Those are all .38 / .357 guns. The rifle is a Rossi 16" and works perfectly.) I've been wanting one of those as well. Not pussy 30 caliber though. It's like I'm trying to raise my sister's kids or something! 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:57:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Morgan321: 357 is cheap to shoot and relaxing since it feels so anemic in a rifle. 38spl is cheap and often subsonic in a rifle if you have a silencer. Multiple guns in the same caliber is handy and 357 will kill the hell out of some paper targets. But 44 is always better than 357 in a rifle. I just sold my last 357 rifle this week in the EE, only have 44 and 45 now. I appreciate the feed back and ain't paragraph 2 the very epitome of a GD answer. OP: 357? Respondent: 44 better! OP: but 357? Respondent 2: 10mm god's caliber OP: but 357? Respondent 3: Pussy! 4570 all the things!!
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:59:00 PM EDT
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I have a .357 Henry but I really need the barrel threaded.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:59:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:04:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bravo_Six: .44 has the same mag capacity and is not gay. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/128932/1000000475_jpg-3198586.JPG But 44 scares me and could hurt my poor faggoty Californicator wrists  That and I don't have anything in .44 or .45 to my name. I buy a .44 rifle and then I have to buy a .44 revolver and all the support stuff and then my kid can't afford college and she's too much of a prude to earn tuition on only fans. You see how this goes. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:12:21 PM EDT
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I have a 16" Rossi in 357, I liked it so much I bought another. Then a pair in 44. Love them all
Do it. I don't know anything about the other brands. I've read the Marlin's don't do well with cast bullets, I'm sure someone will come along and confirm/deny that. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:14:44 PM EDT
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Rossie 92 is another great option.
I’m a big Henry fan, however i like super light and handy on a 357 gun. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:21:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 797hp: I love that you post this in every lever gun thread Watching the purists get butthurt over tactical lever guns is worth the price of admission Well… butthurt and gay kinda go together.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:27:12 PM EDT
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Hell yeah OP!
As soon as I figured out you can use a 9mm suppressor on them I started looking for one.... during covid....yeah it took awhile. I have my Henry chopped from 17.5 to abut 16.25" and threaded for 1/2x28. Love this thing. Everyone who shoots it falls in love with it as well. XS Sights top rail and sight set. RPP handguard. Cheap bushnell TRS25. Paracord wrapped lever.  |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:29:54 PM EDT
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My 1894 CSBL .357 is my favorite go anywhere lever gun.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:30:33 PM EDT
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Heavy .38spl ammo, some steel targets, and a can is a recipe for a giggle inducing good time.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:31:15 PM EDT
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Find an old Marlin if you can
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:34:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By grumpycoconut: I am a fan of that antique caliber family, .38S&W, .38spl & .357 Magnum. I have alway fancied one day having a lever gun to go with my chief's specials, my model 10, and my 686. Henry sells a 16" carbine (7rds) and a 20" rifle (10rds). Ballistics by the Inch seems to show that 16" is the sweet spot with velocity dropping off in longer barrels. My first question is: Will I die if I only have 7 .357 rounds on tap? My second is: Will I die if I have a non- rimfire Henry? My 3rd question is: Does anyone have any thing they want to offer as far as advice? 38 S&W is NOT part of the 38 Colt/38 S&W Special/357 Magnum family; bullet is a few thousandths larger, case head a few thousandths larger. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:38:18 PM EDT
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357 is an awesome cartridge & doubly so if you reload as it's so versatile. A lever gun paired with a revolver is just awesome.
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NY, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:40:33 PM EDT
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The "switch between 38 and 357," is bullshit. Point of impact changes are so large, it involves a complete resight...use it as a 38. Or use it as a 357.. one or the other
357 bullets are designed for revolver length barrels. Driven to carbine speeds, they over expand and fail. Especially 125s. Stick to 158s. Your best bet is often a 158 SOFT point If you handload, you can use Lilgun and get a 158 to 1950 fps. That's original 30 WCF load power levels. Work very well on deer to about 125 yards |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:40:59 PM EDT
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I absolutely love my Cimarron (Uberti) 1873 .357 rifle. Most fun to shoot and the smoothest lever action I've ever handled.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:41:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Balloo: Hell yeah OP! As soon as I figured out you can use a 9mm suppressor on them I started looking for one.... during covid....yeah it took awhile. I have my Henry chopped from 17.5 to abut 16.25" and threaded for 1/2x28. Love this thing. Everyone who shoots it falls in love with it as well. XS Sights top rail and sight set. RPP handguard. Cheap bushnell TRS25. Paracord wrapped lever. https://i.imgur.com/I4Ghpkp.jpg I was planning on getting my Henry X 44mag barrel cut down like that soon. I have always hated the look of the gun with the barrel sticking out so far past the mag tube. Your picture just convinces me I’m right. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:44:49 PM EDT
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I have a Henry Yellow Boy rifle in .38/.357. It's great fun. I will be shooting it with open sights in a steel match in the morning. It will be my third time.
.38 is so very easy to reload. I don't have many .357 cases. I load .38 cases using .357 load data and set the projo just a little bit shallower than a .38. Never any feeding problems. Do not shoot standard load .38s. It feels like a .22 and what fun is that? |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:47:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StromBusa: Find an old Marlin if you can MicroGroove rifling sucks... |
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USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:55:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grumpycoconut: I've yet to put my hands on one yet. I have a .22 Henry that I like very much. Full Colibri plinker out my home office window. I'll have to look at other makers but I'm liking 16" the more I think about it. Sadly I'm in Commiefornia so treading a barrel for a quite gun makes no sense. Get threaded anyway, and hypothetically….you could just make your own. Purely in theory |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:57:16 PM EDT
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I have a Win 94 Trapper in 44mag because I am a man with taste.
But my BIL has a Rossi 357 and it's fun to shoot. I would suggest working the action on the different models, but if money is going to keep you from buying a Marlin, don't bother. Just buy a cheapo and be happy. When shooting lots of hogs up close, you can definitely tell the difference between 357 and the 44. It's not that the 357 is anemic, but the 44 is like the finger of God. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:01:38 PM EDT
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My Henry 16” carbine and speed loaders. The mag tube will accommodate 8 rounds.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:05:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Morgan321: 357 is cheap to shoot and relaxing since it feels so anemic in a rifle. 38spl is cheap and often subsonic in a rifle if you have a silencer. Multiple guns in the same caliber is handy and 357 will kill the hell out of some paper targets. But 44 is always better than 357 in a rifle. I just sold my last 357 rifle this week in the EE, only have 44 and 45 now. I agree with this but having some way to effectively fire 38spcl which is so common is why I have my .357 Marlin and won't get rid of it. I also have a 30-30 for this same reason, these common calibers will turn up in a SHTF scenario. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:06:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grumpycoconut: But 44 scares me and could hurt my poor faggoty Californicator wrists That and I don't have anything in .44 or .45 to my name. I buy a .44 rifle and then I have to buy a .44 revolver and all the support stuff and then my kid can't afford college and she's too much of a prude to earn tuition on only fans. You see how this goes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grumpycoconut: Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: .44 has the same mag capacity and is not gay. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/128932/1000000475_jpg-3198586.JPG But 44 scares me and could hurt my poor faggoty Californicator wrists That and I don't have anything in .44 or .45 to my name. I buy a .44 rifle and then I have to buy a .44 revolver and all the support stuff and then my kid can't afford college and she's too much of a prude to earn tuition on only fans. You see how this goes. This is one of my favorite posts ever |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:12:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Action45: This is one of my favorite posts ever It actually IS pretty effing funny. 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:19:34 PM EDT
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Makes me sad that “Henry’ has somehow become the “go to” lever gun.
I’ve owned two Henry’s. I no longer own any and frankly I’m still salty I lost money on them after discovering there are better lever actions out there. Having owned over 40 lever guns I can tell you that if 38 is what you want I’d go with the JMB designed 1892. Your choice of manufacturers from Rossi up to Miroku Winchester clones (I’d recommend an Italian made one.) My second choice would be a slicked up 1873 from an Italian manufacturer. I should be glad that everyone overlooks the Italian guns, keeps their prices down and Henrys cost up. That’s fine now that I know better. Not to say Henry”s aren’t perfectly good guns (actually their rimfires are way too cheaply made for my taste). It’s just that once you’ve held and ran an 1873 or 1892 made by a premium manufacturer it’ll be hard to justify the price of a Henry. Ask the SASS (cowboy shooters) what they’d recommend (they actually run thousands of rounds and heavily use their guns) and they’ll actually specifically recommend against a Henry….theyre first recommendation is the 1873 followed by a 92 or Marlin. The 1873 has a ton of aftermarket upgrades to make it “go fast.” But my son’s Rossi 92 “Space gun” is slicker than my short stroked Cimarron 73. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:36:34 PM EDT
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I have a Rossi 16" .357 that I deer hunt with. Light, easy to carry, and accurate out to 150 yards for me. Where I hunt, I rarely get a shot over 75 yards anyway and is deadly on deer. My next purchase will be the Henry carbine in steel.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:40:38 PM EDT
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Henry
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:44:47 PM EDT
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16" is not the sweet spot. I use a Winchester 1892 in 357 mag for just about everything. With handloads or boutique loads (buffalo bore, underwood, double tap) you can take advantage of the extra barrel length. I can hit 2400fps with the 140 grain xtps without any pressure issues and that gives me almost 1600ft lbs of energy. It also holds 13 rounds. Personally I like the Henry rifles better as they are less finicky aboht bullet profiles. Every winchesrer, pistol cal, has had a very short ane tight chamber....44s, 45 colts, 357s...all of them. I usually have to use a finish reamer to correct it. That being said, they are more accurste than the Henrys however the Henrys are easy to mount optics on. I had to drill and tap the winchesters
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:48:02 PM EDT
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I have a Henry Big Boy All Weather and an Uberti 1873 in .357. Both are great. I want to get another Henry in .41 Magnum to go with my Model-57.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:55:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Balloo: Hell yeah OP! As soon as I figured out you can use a 9mm suppressor on them I started looking for one.... during covid....yeah it took awhile. I have my Henry chopped from 17.5 to abut 16.25" and threaded for 1/2x28. Love this thing. Everyone who shoots it falls in love with it as well. XS Sights top rail and sight set. RPP handguard. Cheap bushnell TRS25. Paracord wrapped lever. https://i.imgur.com/I4Ghpkp.jpg Shiney! Now you need a skeletonized stock to make it even more Firefly. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:57:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frozenny: The "switch between 38 and 357," is bullshit. Point of impact changes are so large, it involves a complete resight...use it as a 38. Or use it as a 357.. one or the other 357 bullets are designed for revolver length barrels. Driven to carbine speeds, they over expand and fail. Especially 125s. Stick to 158s. Your best bet is often a 158 SOFT point If you handload, you can use Lilgun and get a 158 to 1950 fps. That's original 30 WCF load power levels. Work very well on deer to about 125 yards Some flaws in this, you might have been right on bullet tech 30+yrs ago. There'd several 125jhp that are made specifically for rifle velocity. I've found Hornady xtp 125gr rifle jhp work real well at 2150, as tested on a stray pit at 95yds. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:23:45 PM EDT
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 Attached File.357 magnum gets it done. Mandatory Henry Big Boy picture for reference. Next on my list is .45-70… |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:33:25 PM EDT
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Fwiw my .44 Henry only fit 7 rounds initially but after a few tubes 8 rounds fit just fine.
Very happy with the rifle and have only seen two issues- -the mlok slot (X model) isn't parallel with the barrel, have seen this on other guns, I have an RPP handguard I need to install so this won't affect me -the back of the hammer very slightly contacts the tang directly behind the cutout As per Lucky Gunner 180 grain Remington SPs are doing over 2000fps out of this rifle. 😮 I went with .44 since I have nothing in .357, .44 or .45. I passed on .45-70 because of shoulder injuries and .44 is a better SD round than .45-70. The plan was to have a Cali legal rifle for visiting family there and also have a camp gun for truck camping. I've flown with it a few times but the Great Camping Adventure thing never took off. 300 grain hard cast isn't the worst bear gun and it's a little handier for SD use than heavy .45-70 or slugs. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:33:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PRasko]
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Get one that's threaded. 158 38 specials are quieter then my pellet gun.
Edit I also recommend the xs sight rail system if you get the x model. Whenever you can find it in stock. |
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