Yeah, how dare they get upset at someone living off their tax dollars.

Again, forcing the creation of entire armies of hostile voters does not end well, but get some here will gladly lose everything so long as they lose by the rules.

A lot of them will be wanted by their parents once they are born. For those that aren't wanted, let the parents surrender then within approximately 1 year, and they will get adopted, or supported by tax payers w/ foster parents. It's a minimal cost to preserve human life.

That's true.

That won’t happen (limiting suffrage) and you know it.

Like I said, I’m not required to save future enemy voters. My humanity doesn’t get to be used by enemies who themselves lack any humanity against me and mine anymore.

https://news.unl.edu/newsrooms/today/article/twins-study-confirms-genetic-role-of-politics/

https://werkat.substack.com/p/how-heritable-are-political-views

After how many generations of hostiles do you throw in the towel and let come what may?

How many generations of welfare voting Marxists is enough for you? I want answers.

Those studies are not deterministic, and acknowledge the role that environmental/experiential factors play in political socialization.  Those studies also have massive methodological problems, and applying any such study to a large populations is going to yield no predictive result.

Do I have to bring up the voting trends polls, broken into races/genders again?

lol. Yup people will definitely start fucking less.

Do I have to remind you that the studies you identified acknowledge the role that history and experience plays upon political ideology?  You should really read what you post.

And what history and experience do you think generational welfare voters will have and under go?

Three objections :

First - a person's future actions cannot and should not determine what their life is worth or whether it is OK to kill them. That is antithetical to every founding principle of the United States and rights-based philosophy in general.

Second - you're painting with a very broad brush to determine worthiness of life or death on an individual level. Even if you can make a case that future bad voting habits or crimes are cause to kill someone now (which you can't), doing so based on generalized and widely varying statistics will inevitably include people who do not fit into those statistics, yet will be killed alongside those who do. This is unjust even by the standard of killing someone for pre-crime.

Third - everything you said can just as easily (maybe more so) be used to condemn a 2 year old as an unborn fetus. Whether you know it or not, you're making an argument for infanticide and more generally the killing of born people who live in undesirable or non-productive ways. That is the very definition of eugenics.

@Dagoth-Ur

Have you found a way to inspect a child in the womb and predict their future? If you can't do that, then your question is completely irrelevant.  

You divided by potato.  

So basically you are in favor of eugenics: killing 'undesirable' babies.  We just haven't targeted the right population yet?  Interestingly, that's exactly what Hitler wanted to do...

You are literally supporting the very thing you are protesting.

Poverty, histories of exclusion, particular parties actively courting them, among many experiences will shape voter preference.  Look at the shift to the left of second generation Asian immigrants.  

Your understanding of what you posted is absolutely laughable, and misunderstands what the research is saying.  You are grafting on substantive ideologies that exist outside of genetics, to a finite study of twins and their gross ideological tendencies.  Like most of what you post, you have almost no clue what you cite says.

For someone who shows such antipathy to academia, why are you attaching yourself to an obscure journal article that does not prove anything remotely like the assertions you have made?

Shift to the left? They were ALWAYS on the left, even the first generation, why? Because genes/culture make the politics.

Blank slateism is an active denial of reality. People with a lower IQ are drawn to a lower intelligence base worldview, ever notice the lazy and stupid are drawn to Marxism like moths to a flame?


Again, your worldview of nothing is set in stone, everyone is a blank slate, “just give them a chance” is under fire and falling apart.

We tried it your way for 3 generations and it didn’t turn out the way you thought it would…Who’s fault is that?

For what is worth, you are a better man then I, reality and its vast, harsh, sanity bending hardships have long since beaten what compassion was left in me.

That is factually incorrect.  Exit polls from 1992 to 2016 show a flipping of the Asian American vote from 60% republican in 1992 to 60% democrat in 2016.  How the fuck do you attribute such a shift to genetics?  Again, the studies you cite, do not support such a claim.

Where have I argued for a tabula rasa?  What I have argued is that there is a mountain of research that shows the influence that your experiences, social groups, family, world events, among other factors have on political ideology.  Anyone who is arguing for a purely nature or nurture argument is idiotic.  Could genetics have an effect?  Absolutely, but that does not correlate to entire racial groups behaving one way, genetic tendencies being deterministic, or the negation of outside factors.

Asians have been in the United States for far longer than 3 generations.  Again, factually incorrect.

I would argue that you have very little relationship with reality, and rather your own predilections have created a very hateful worldview that has little grounding in reality.

You got something right.  Culture does make the politics.  If only we could figure out what mass murder of the unborn instead of connecting actions to consequences does to culture and why the left are all-in on abortion and will seamlessly slide into infanticide and euthanasia once they fully win that argument...

Give them the jobs illegals took. Duh!

Wait, what nationality of Asians are you speaking about?

I attribute the shift as those who survived the communist regimes did so in part thanks to the it ability to conform to the collective in a rapid manner as those most able to were most likely to survive, factor in generations of in-group preference along with a proclivity for support of collectivism and distributional politics and its very clear why this shift happened.

Add in “free stuff” because they are “victims” of “racism” and it’s no wonder why they shifted far left, even as they being cannibalized by other members of their coalition of the damned.

And frankly if this is how they vote, all the better to prevent more of them from entry into this country.



You are correct, you have not, but some pro lifers are. That was not correct or right to make that accusation against you. I am sorry.


Never said they were not, a vast majority of them are 3 or less generations (Chinese, Korea, SEAs, etc) from the wars in SEA and communist fuckery.

And yet my hateful worldview is proven right by how groups vote.

When 51% or more of a group vote to impoverish you, disenfranchise you by overwhelming you with their own people, to disarm you and use the state to destroy your rights, freedoms, future and that of your children, you have to treat them as what they clearly are, a threat.


I did not make iron law of politics (all actions and intent can be boiled down to Friend Foe Distinction)
But if you don’t agree understand, accept, and operate under it, it can and will harm/destroy you, and everything/everyone you care about.

So…Why did you deliberately ignore the other have to what makes culture again?

You know what enables leftists winning, allow in more people who will vote for them and their madness.

Reduction Ad Hitler stopped working years ago, ok?


How many generations of welfare voters is enough?  3?-5?-20? You see it’s not that they are exist at my expense that is so upsetting , it’s the fact they use the only thing of value, the only tool they have, and fashion it as a weapon to loot the labor, wealth, property of others at the low cost of our rights that I find to be so revolting.

I am not obligated to raise an Army against myself, an obligation your side fails to understand, accept, or follow to your own detriment.

Your side never explains away the predictable rise of the costs of welfare, or the rise of crime, or tens of millions more enemy voters that will have their ballots weaponized against us, all you have is baby waving and screaming “ You’re Literally Hitler!”, behavior which is indistinguishable from shitlibs.


So you would not have saved 200-300 million people?

Given your proclivities to support the same policies as leftists I'm getting curious about your genetics.  Or does that not count?

Tactics are tactics, objectives are objectives. My policy is “sit back and let my enemies do upon each other that which they will do upon each other.

This is no different than a Jihadist being beheaded by another Jihadist because he was caught drinking fermented apple juice, or having lustful thoughts about another man’s goat.

You can question my genes all you want. Won’t get you anywhere. Since 18 I have only moved more and more inline to objective facts of reality.

I never voted for a leader who actively campaigned to streak our country out from under our feet and give to the armies of layabouts or their imported Janice from the third world who think everything we built is somehow there’s.

I never voted to take away your rights, freedoms, wealth, property or dim the bright future of your spawn.

You want to find an enemy in me friend? I’m afraid you will not, because it’s just not there.

Plenty? How many is "plenty"? I would bet that how good/shitty the parents are is an overwhelmingly accurate predictor of what kids will be good and what kids will be shit.

“You can’t use pattern recognition, math, or any other tool to determine what I don’t want to be proven!/s

If your objective is to preserve and protect innocent life then how do you use a tactic of mass murder of innocents?

A jihadist made himself the enemy by his actions.  The unborn are innocent.

That was a pathetic attempt to dodge the question.  Everybody knows the answer is that your genetics just happen to match that those you define as "good".  Otherwise you would have already committed murder-suicide of your family and yourself.

Aren't you a massive Trump supporter?  You know the guy who attacked separation of powers, gun rights, agitated for negative interest rates, and handed out money like candy on Halloween?

"Want" to find an enemy in you?  You lit a marine flare inches in front of our eyes.  We couldn't miss it.

Statistics are not deterministic.

Since the advent of readily available abortions and contraceptives, unplanned and unwanted pregnancies have skyrocketed. Force people to be responsible and most people WILL BE responsible.

We've done just about everything we could possibly do we a society to foster an environment where unplanned and unwanted pregnancies are highly likely to happen. All it's done is fuck us over with fatherless behavior.