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Posted: 7/24/2022 3:59:54 PM EDT
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WWSD - GWACS Armory Sucks Karl Kasarda of InRange TV & the WWSD projects details his understanding of the GWACS lawsuit against KE Arms, et al. @SinistralRifleman Thanks to Everrest: KE Arms Sued: What GWACS Armory Doesn't Want You To Know -- A Lawyer Explains |
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Let's go Brandon!
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Mr. Stoner never developed any carbines. Karl is an idiot.
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GWACS should be cancelled by the industry.
But dude needs to take himself down off the cross. Comments about quick detach slings existing in the civil war don’t matter. Your QD socket is either patented or it isn’t. Every bit of factual info could have been conveyed in about 5 minutes. |
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Originally Posted By JamesTheScot: GWACS should be cancelled by the industry. But dude needs to take himself down off the cross. Comments about quick detach slings existing in the civil war don’t matter. Your QD socket is either patented or it isn’t. Every bit of factual info could have been conveyed in about 5 minutes. View Quote What are the patent numbers for the various features of the Cav Arms Mk2? |
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Never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose—with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be. - Adm James Stockdale
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Let's go Brandon!
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Preferred Pronoun: Space Lord Mutherfucker
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Never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose—with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be. - Adm James Stockdale
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There is nowhere left to go... this is it.
USA
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Can’t watch that guy.
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"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin |
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KE Arms Sued: What GWACS Armory Doesn't Want You To Know -- A Lawyer Explains
KE Arms Sued: What GWACS Armory Doesn't Want You To Know -- A Lawyer Explains |
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"Bureau of Alcohol, Snuff, Firearms and Explosives" Google translator. @Everrest
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Originally Posted By Everrest: KE Arms Sued: What GWACS Armory Doesn't Want You To Know -- A Lawyer Explains https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2-_7juyp8w View Quote Thanks for posting that. If anyone can get hold of him, GWACS started by selling militaries a tactical gun shot detector - this is their defense product website: http://www.gwacsdefense.com/ |
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Death to quislings.
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Ian and Karl are both linking to the lawyers video and telling people to support KE Arms by buying their products. Curious is Ian or Karl are refusing any of their portion of the proceeds from the sales of the lowers to kick that money towards the legal bills or are they still pocketing their portion?
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"Little shaken babies and drunkards seem to all agree, once the show gets started its bound to be a sight to see"
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Originally Posted By floridacop: Ian and Karl are both linking to the lawyers video and telling people to support KE Arms by buying their products. Curious is Ian or Karl are refusing any of their portion of the proceeds from the sales of the lowers to kick that money towards the legal bills or are they still pocketing their portion? View Quote As far as I'm aware, Karl & Ian only benefit from the sale of WWSD complete rifles from Brownell's, not from KP-15 lower sales or KE Arms rifles. End of the WWSD and KP15? KE Arms Needs Your Help! |
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Death to quislings.
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KE Arms would like to thank the 2A Community for their ongoing support as we battle GWACS’ frivolous lawsuit.
Media coverage of this case has resulted in individuals reaching out to us with documents and communications they have had with GWACS that should have been disclosed to us in discovery, but unfortunately were not. GWACS’ primary claims in this case are centered on its alleged trade secrets and proprietary information. KE Arms’ position is that all of this information was either in the public space or readily known in the industry, and thus neither secret nor proprietary. For example, a former GWACS customer recently came forward notifying us that GWACS openly shared all of the internal structures of the CAV-15 MKII with dimensional references. The customer also shared with GWACS his plans to install a QD socket into the stock, yet GWACS has alleged the installation of the QD socket into the stock to be a trade secret and/or proprietary information in this case. Tellingly, GWACS never disclosed these communications to us in discovery. In fact, only after seeing press coverage of the case did the individual come forward with this information. We believe one of the reasons that GWACS has requested a gag order in this case is to suppress this sort of unfavorable information being voluntarily provided by former customers and affiliates. We believe that the truth dies in darkness. As such if you have any communications with GWACS related to product suggestions, product improvements, internal design features, and manufacturing information please forward them to us at [email protected]. |
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GWACS Legal Filings Review
GWACS Legal Filings Review |
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"Bureau of Alcohol, Snuff, Firearms and Explosives" Google translator. @Everrest
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrfKGpvbEQXcbe68dzXgJuA/community?lb=UgkxP14JyIjQroHm8_G05uVXinQdLjwsZ3T_
Forgotten Weapons 6 hours ago Quick update on KE Arms: They are pushing to fulfill all the orders that have come in to help support the legal fun - thank you to everyone! If you didn't see this before, you can best support KE and the WWSD project by checking out KE Arms' web site and buying something from them. Please do keep in mind that they are only 3 people currently filling orders, and ATF chose this week to audit them - so shipping will take longer than planned. Here's KE's full statement on the status: ------ The response from the 2A in supporting us in our legal battle has been substantial in volume, and humbling. We have fought this battle in silence for almost 2.5 years, and it is heartening to have the support of the community in this fight. We wanted to update everyone on order statuses, lead times, and the most effective way to communicate with us. Today a routine ATF audit was begun that is expected to take most of the week. We will not be shipping firearms while this is in process. There are only 3 of us currently working to fill the hundreds of orders that have come in. We are trying to hire more people to ship orders faster, but it has been difficult in the current job market. Prior to this surge we were quoting a 1-3 week lead time. It may now be 3-5 weeks depending on what you ordered. Patches have sold out of inventory-More are in process with our vendor but it will be 3-4 weeks for them to start shipping Shot Glasses have sold out of inventory-More are on our schedule to machine, material is inbound. Lower/Rifle Orders: If you or your dealer sent the FFL to [email protected] with your order number in the subject line, you do not need to do anything else. We do not provide confirmations of FFL received as they come in (we receive dozens daily). If we don’t have your FFL when your order is ready to ship, we will contact you again then. If you need to contact us, please e-mail rather than call. Answering phone calls takes our limited staff away from filling orders. Answering e-mails in batches during time blocks is a more efficient use of our man power. Thank you for your patience, understanding, and support. Sincerely, The KE Arms Team View Quote |
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Death to quislings.
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KE Arms vs GWACS: Update (and How You Can Help!) |
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Death to quislings.
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Motions for summary judgment are pending.
Trial is currently set for December 19th |
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Thanks for posting up, man. Godspeed.
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Death to quislings.
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Anti-Gun Gun Company (GWACS) Issues A Statement, I Issue The Receipts
Anti-Gun Gun Company (GWACS) Issues A Statement, I Issue The Receipts |
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"Bureau of Alcohol, Snuff, Firearms and Explosives" Google translator. @Everrest
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GWACS Armory: An Anti-Gun Gun Company? Their President Says So Missed this one. |
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Death to quislings.
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This gets more & more interesting:
Did Jud Gudgel From GWACS Sneak Into My Comments? You Decide, I Respond |
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Did An Anti-Gun Gun Company (GWACS) Hide Evidence In Their Lawsuit Against KE Arms?
Did An Anti-Gun Gun Company (GWACS) Hide Evidence In Their Lawsuit Against KE Arms? |
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"Bureau of Alcohol, Snuff, Firearms and Explosives" Google translator. @Everrest
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Tag for later
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“You read too many books”-ATF agent
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Originally Posted By Everrest: Did An Anti-Gun Gun Company (GWACS) Hide Evidence In Their Lawsuit Against KE Arms? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEXTp-l90BU View Quote |
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Death to quislings.
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GWACS Motion for a Gag Order was denied by the court yesterday.
Motions for summary judgment and spoliation sanctions are pending. Trial is currently set for 3-20-2023 in Tulsa |
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So the trial got pushed back.
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Death to quislings.
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The Judge correctly protected the First Amendment by rejecting GWACS’ attempts to abuse the system. The message to GWACS’ elitist, anti-second amendment investor, Reed Oppenheimer, is clear: the First Amendment and the Second Amendment are still alive and well in the United States’ District of Northern Oklahoma.
Reason.com post on the ruling |
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I saw that on Volokh this morning, was going to post later.
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Preferred Pronoun: Space Lord Mutherfucker
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GWACS (The Anti-Gun Gun Company) Seeks A Gag Order Against InrangeTV -- They Get Clowned |
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Death to quislings.
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KE Arms Statement:
We are pleased to announce that on 12-9-2022 the court DENIED GWACS’ motion for a gag order in its case against KE Arms, SST-LLC, Brownells, Russell Phagan, and Shawn Nealon. In its ruling the court upheld the strong standard against prior restraint on free speech enshrined in the first amendment of the bill of rights. GWACS chose to involve the media in this case by deposing Karl Kasarda of InRangeTV during the discovery phase. Kasarda later published a video discussing the case and GWACS’ potential motivations for pursuing it. One possible motivation revealed under deposition of GWACS’ primary investor Reed Oppenheimer was political. Oppenheimer did not want to sell AR15s to the public on the commercial market and he would not finance more development of GWACS’ polymer receivers but he would finance GWACS’ suit against KE Arms and others. In filing this motion for gag order GWACS showed that they are as anti-First Amendment as they are anti-Second Amendment. Only after the case became public were we approached by individuals that GWACS had shared its supposed trade secrets with them in electronic communications. GWACS failed to disclose these communications in discovery. They refused to meet and confer with our counsel after these communications were brought to us by the public. As a result of GWACS conduct relating to this evidence our counsel filed a motion for spoliation sanctions on 11-23-2022. If GWACS motion had been granted at the time they filed it, we never would have had this potentially case dismissing evidence. You can read the Court’s full ruling here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wfoa53n4bshl00u/20221209ruling.pdf?dl=0 We appreciate the support of the 2A Community as this case continues to advance through the court system. Motions for summary judgment and spoliation sanctions are pending. Trial is currently set for 3-20-2023 in Tulsa, OK. |
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KE Arms/GWACS Update: You Guys Helped! |
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GWACS Update: Bombs Dropped, Partial Victory for KEA, Reasons To Suspect Summary Judgment |
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https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18722264/gwacs-armory-llc-v-ke-arms-llc/
Looks like KE Arms new filings are in Document # 187, hopefully a fortuitous number. |
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"Bureau of Alcohol, Snuff, Firearms and Explosives" Google translator. @Everrest
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Originally Posted By Everrest: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18722264/gwacs-armory-llc-v-ke-arms-llc/#entry-188 GWACS reply. View Quote Anything of interest, or just their same rant? |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Anything of interest, or just their same rant? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes GWACS argument seems to be we sued the parties that broke the NDA. Just because we told other people ( dealers, people that asked) information doesn't put the information in the public domain. It also doesn't matter because the defendants didn't find out about other people having the information until after the lawsuit was started. ...snip... Further, the information disclosed in the emails attached to Defendants’ Supplement do not contain the proprietary information at issue in this case. The information provided was inaccurate, imprecise, incomplete, and unrelated to the trade secrets and proprietary information used, exploited and/or disclosed by Defendants. ...snip... CONCLUSION Defendants’ Supplement does not contain the same trade secrets as those at issue this case, and the information is neither accurate nor precise. Defendants’ Supplement also does not contain the CAD files or the unified process for manufacturing a CAV-15. Therefore, Defendants’ Supplement does not change the fact Defendants are not entitled to summary judgment on Armory’s breach of contract and misappropriation claims. Respectfully submitted, JONES, GOTCHER & BOGAN, P.C. |
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"Bureau of Alcohol, Snuff, Firearms and Explosives" Google translator. @Everrest
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Well, what a week this has been.
Without logging onto Facebook, the best I can do is link to Sinistral's Facebook where he announces that he's been dropped from the GWACS lawsuit. Amusingly for those following other recent events, he uses a Soviet soldier as a stand-in for InRange.tv in his meme: https://www.facebook.com/sinistralrifleman You can find his anti-ARFCOM post a few further down. |
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Death to quislings.
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From a couple of days ago:
GWACS vs KE Arms, Russell Phagan, Brownells et al. What's the deal? |
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Motion entry 191
Summary ( attempted to break up text) OPINION AND ORDER by Judge Claire V Eagan Defendant Brownells Inc.'s Motion for Summary Judgment (Dkt. # 118) and Defendants Russell Phagan and Sinistral Shooting Technologies, LLC's Motion for Summary Judgment (Dkt. # 120) are granted. Brownells, Inc., Russell Phagan, and Sinistral Shooting Technologies, Inc. are terminated as a parties. Plaintiff's Motion for Order Dismissing Claims against Defendant Shawn Nealon with Prejudice (Dkt. # 113) is granted, and GWACS claims against Nealon are dismissed with prejudice. Nealon is terminated as a party. Defendant KE Arms, LLC's Motion for Summary Judgment (Dkt. # 117) is granted in part and denied in part. Counterclaim Defendant's Motion for Summary Judgment & Brief in Support (Dkt. # 121) is granted in part and denied in part. Defendants' Motion for Spoliation Sanctions (Dkt. # 177) is denied. Defendant Shawn Nealon's Motion for Summary Judgment (Dkt. # 119) is moot. The pretrial conference set for March 1, 2023 and the jury trial set for March 20, 2023 are STRICKEN. Final joint proposed pretrial order to be submitted (not filed) no later than March 31, 2023. The pretrial conference is reset for April 5, 2023 at 10:00 a.m, and the jury trial is reset for April 17, 2023 at 9:15 a.m. This matter is set for an additional settlement conference before Magistrate Judge Christine Little on March 3, 2023 at 9:30 a.m. Settlement conference statements to be submitted to Judge Little (not filed) no later than March 1, 2023 ; setting/resetting scheduling order date(s): ( Proposed Pretrial Order due by 3/31/2023, Pretrial Conference set for 4/5/2023 at 10:00 AM before Judge Claire V Eagan, Jury Trial set for 4/17/2023 at 09:15 AM before Judge Claire V Eagan); terminating party Russell Phagan (an individual), Sinistral Shooting Technologies, LLC (an Arizona limited liability company ), Brownells, Inc. (an Iowa corporation) and Shawn Nealon (an individual) ; setting/resetting deadline(s)/hearing(s): ( Settlement Conference set for 3/3/2023 at 09:30 AM before Magistrate Judge Christine D Little, Proposed Pretrial Order due by 3/31/2023, Pretrial Conference set for 4/5/2023 at 10:00 AM before Judge Claire V Eagan, Jury Trial set for 4/17/2023 at 09:15 AM before Judge Claire V Eagan); granting 113 Motion to Dismiss Party; granting in part and denying in part 117 Motion for Summary Judgment; granting 118 Motion for Summary Judgment; finding as moot 119 Motion for Summary Judgment; granting 120 Motion for Summary Judgment; granting in part and denying in part 121 Motion for Summary Judgment; denying 177 Motion for Sanctions (Re: 113 MOTION to Dismiss Party Shawn Nealon, 117 MOTION for Summary Judgment, 118 MOTION for Summary Judgment, 119 MOTION for Summary Judgment, 120 MOTION for Summary Judgment, 121 MOTION for Summary Judgment, 177 MOTION for Sanctions ) (crp, Dpty Clk) (Entered: 02/23/2023) View Quote |
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"Bureau of Alcohol, Snuff, Firearms and Explosives" Google translator. @Everrest
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I wish Russel would post back in this thread and expound on this.
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Preferred Pronoun: Space Lord Mutherfucker
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Plano, Texas...........the Gun Nut Capitol of Gun Culture, USA
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Originally Posted By DogtownTom: What's the backstory on that? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DogtownTom: Originally Posted By backbencher: You can find his anti-ARFCOM post a few further down. What's the backstory on that? There's one locked thread & 2 other threads on it, this one popped up 1st: https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/2625164_Forgotten-Weapons-v-Inrange-v-Admin-Results.html |
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New Bloke on the Range video - unlisted, link sent to me by Sinistral:
Summary Judgment Drops in GWACS vs KE Arms, Russell Phagan, Brownells et al. Judge Excoriates GWACS! ETA: TLDW summary - this is a summary of the Summary Judgement that cut Russell, Brownells, etc out of the lawsuit - only GWACS claims against KE Arms still stand, apparently. |
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Death to quislings.
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TFB article rehashing the recent summary judgement releasing several folks from the lawsuit:
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2023/03/02/gwacs-ke-arms-update/ |
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Death to quislings.
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