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Posted: 7/24/2022 3:59:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: backbencher]


Karl Kasarda of InRange TV & the WWSD projects details his understanding of the GWACS lawsuit against KE Arms, et al.

@SinistralRifleman

Thanks to Everrest:

KE Arms Sued: What GWACS Armory Doesn't Want You To Know -- A Lawyer Explains
Link Posted: 7/24/2022 4:58:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ryder12] [#1]
deleted because this is spamming across AR15
Link Posted: 7/24/2022 5:01:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ryder12] [#2]
Mr. Stoner never developed any carbines. Karl is an idiot.
Link Posted: 7/24/2022 5:19:58 PM EDT
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GWACS should be cancelled by the industry.

But dude needs to take himself down off the cross.  Comments about quick detach slings existing in the civil war don’t matter. Your QD socket is either patented or it isn’t.  Every bit of factual info could have been conveyed in about 5 minutes.
Link Posted: 7/24/2022 6:38:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JamesTheScot:
GWACS should be cancelled by the industry.

But dude needs to take himself down off the cross.  Comments about quick detach slings existing in the civil war don’t matter. Your QD socket is either patented or it isn’t.  Every bit of factual info could have been conveyed in about 5 minutes.
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What are the patent numbers for the various features of the Cav Arms Mk2?
Link Posted: 7/24/2022 6:39:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/24/2022 6:46:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/24/2022 7:26:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:



I bet it would be expired by now anyways.
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Can't be expired if they were never filed.
Link Posted: 7/24/2022 7:42:33 PM EDT
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Can’t watch that guy.

So whats the deal?
Link Posted: 7/24/2022 7:43:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/12/2022 11:07:49 PM EDT
[#10]
KE Arms Sued: What GWACS Armory Doesn't Want You To Know -- A Lawyer Explains
KE Arms Sued: What GWACS Armory Doesn't Want You To Know -- A Lawyer Explains
Link Posted: 9/12/2022 11:42:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Everrest:  KE Arms Sued: What GWACS Armory Doesn't Want You To Know -- A Lawyer Explains
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2-_7juyp8w
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Thanks for posting that.  If anyone can get hold of him, GWACS started by selling militaries a tactical gun shot detector - this is their defense product website:

http://www.gwacsdefense.com/
Link Posted: 9/13/2022 12:25:51 PM EDT
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Ian and Karl are both linking to the lawyers video and telling people to support KE Arms by buying their products.  Curious is Ian or Karl are refusing any of their portion of the proceeds from the sales of the lowers to kick that money towards the legal bills or are they still pocketing their portion?
Link Posted: 9/13/2022 12:28:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By floridacop:  Ian and Karl are both linking to the lawyers video and telling people to support KE Arms by buying their products.  Curious is Ian or Karl are refusing any of their portion of the proceeds from the sales of the lowers to kick that money towards the legal bills or are they still pocketing their portion?
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As far as I'm aware, Karl & Ian only benefit from the sale of WWSD complete rifles from Brownell's, not from KP-15 lower sales or KE Arms rifles.

End of the WWSD and KP15? KE Arms Needs Your Help!
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 4:52:15 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2022 8:16:03 PM EDT
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GWACS Legal Filings Review
Link Posted: 9/26/2022 11:34:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: backbencher] [#16]
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrfKGpvbEQXcbe68dzXgJuA/community?lb=UgkxP14JyIjQroHm8_G05uVXinQdLjwsZ3T_


Forgotten Weapons
6 hours ago
Quick update on KE Arms: They are pushing to fulfill all the orders that have come in to help support the legal fun - thank you to everyone! If you didn't see this before, you can best support KE and the WWSD project by checking out KE Arms' web site and buying something from them. Please do keep in mind that they are only 3 people currently filling orders, and ATF chose this week to audit them - so shipping will take longer than planned. Here's KE's full statement on the status:

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The response from the 2A in supporting us in our legal battle has been substantial in volume, and humbling.  We have fought this battle in silence for almost 2.5 years, and it is heartening to have the support of the community in this fight.

We wanted to update everyone on order statuses, lead times, and the most effective way to communicate with us.

Today a routine ATF audit was begun that is expected to take most of the week.  We will not be shipping firearms while this is in process.

There are only 3 of us currently working to fill the hundreds of orders that have come in.  We are trying to hire more people to ship orders faster, but it has been difficult in the current job market.  Prior to this surge we were quoting a 1-3 week lead time.  It may now be 3-5 weeks depending on what you ordered.

Patches have sold out of inventory-More are in process with our vendor but it will be 3-4 weeks for them to start shipping

Shot Glasses have sold out of inventory-More are on our schedule to machine, material is inbound.

Lower/Rifle Orders:  If you or your dealer sent the FFL to [email protected] with your order number in the subject line, you do not need to do anything else.  We do not provide confirmations of FFL received as they come in (we receive dozens daily).  If we don’t have your FFL when your order is ready to ship, we will contact you again then.

If you need to contact us, please e-mail rather than call.  Answering phone calls takes our limited staff away from filling orders.  Answering e-mails in batches during time blocks is a more efficient use of our man power.

Thank you for your patience, understanding, and support.

Sincerely,

The KE Arms Team
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Link Posted: 10/2/2022 12:21:37 PM EDT
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KE Arms vs GWACS: Update (and How You Can Help!)
Link Posted: 10/6/2022 10:39:47 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/6/2022 10:42:10 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/6/2022 12:02:10 PM EDT
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Thanks for posting up, man.  Godspeed.
Link Posted: 10/6/2022 2:27:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/12/2022 2:34:06 AM EDT
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Anti-Gun Gun Company (GWACS) Issues A Statement, I Issue The Receipts
Anti-Gun Gun Company (GWACS) Issues A Statement, I Issue The Receipts
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 11:53:25 PM EDT
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GWACS Armory: An Anti-Gun Gun Company? Their President Says So


Missed this one.
Link Posted: 10/14/2022 11:43:21 PM EDT
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This gets more & more interesting:

Did Jud Gudgel From GWACS Sneak Into My Comments? You Decide, I Respond
Link Posted: 10/16/2022 8:33:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/29/2022 10:59:39 PM EDT
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Did An Anti-Gun Gun Company (GWACS) Hide Evidence In Their Lawsuit Against KE Arms?
Did An Anti-Gun Gun Company (GWACS) Hide Evidence In Their Lawsuit Against KE Arms?
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 11:11:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/30/2022 1:30:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Everrest:
Did An Anti-Gun Gun Company (GWACS) Hide Evidence In Their Lawsuit Against KE Arms?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEXTp-l90BU
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Link Posted: 12/10/2022 12:05:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/10/2022 5:50:31 PM EDT
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So the trial got pushed back.
Link Posted: 12/11/2022 4:16:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/11/2022 4:18:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/12/2022 12:07:40 AM EDT
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GWACS (The Anti-Gun Gun Company) Seeks A Gag Order Against InrangeTV -- They Get Clowned
Link Posted: 12/12/2022 1:30:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/14/2022 4:40:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/1/2023 2:14:00 PM EDT
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KE Arms/GWACS Update: You Guys Helped!
Link Posted: 1/2/2023 11:47:49 PM EDT
[#37]
GWACS Update: Bombs Dropped, Partial Victory for KEA, Reasons To Suspect Summary Judgment
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 1:55:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: backbencher] [#38]
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18722264/gwacs-armory-llc-v-ke-arms-llc/

Looks like KE Arms new filings are in Document # 187, hopefully a fortuitous number.
Link Posted: 1/10/2023 2:57:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/10/2023 3:09:29 PM EDT
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Anything of interest, or just their same rant?
Link Posted: 1/11/2023 11:08:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:


Anything of interest, or just their same rant?
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Originally Posted By backbencher:


Anything of interest, or just their same rant?

GWACS argument seems to be we sued the parties that broke the NDA.
Just because we told other people ( dealers, people that asked) information doesn't put the information in the public domain.
It also doesn't matter because the defendants didn't find out about other people having the information until after the lawsuit was started.
...snip...
Further, the information disclosed in the emails attached to Defendants’ Supplement do not
contain the proprietary information at issue in this case. The information provided was inaccurate,
imprecise, incomplete, and unrelated to the trade secrets and proprietary information used,
exploited and/or disclosed by Defendants.
...snip...
CONCLUSION
Defendants’ Supplement does not contain the same trade secrets as those at issue this case,
and the information is neither accurate nor precise. Defendants’ Supplement also does not contain
the CAD files or the unified process for manufacturing a CAV-15. Therefore, Defendants’
Supplement does not change the fact Defendants are not entitled to summary judgment on
Armory’s breach of contract and misappropriation claims.
Respectfully submitted,

JONES, GOTCHER & BOGAN, P.C.
Link Posted: 2/24/2023 12:33:16 AM EDT
[#42]
Well, what a week this has been.

Without logging onto Facebook, the best I can do is link to Sinistral's Facebook where he announces that he's been dropped from the GWACS lawsuit.  Amusingly for those following other recent events, he uses a Soviet soldier as a stand-in for InRange.tv in his meme:

https://www.facebook.com/sinistralrifleman

You can find his anti-ARFCOM post a few further down.
Link Posted: 2/24/2023 11:13:12 AM EDT
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From a couple of days ago:

GWACS vs KE Arms, Russell Phagan, Brownells et al. What's the deal?
Link Posted: 2/24/2023 6:00:58 PM EDT
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Motion entry 191
Summary ( attempted to break up text)
OPINION AND ORDER by Judge Claire V Eagan Defendant Brownells Inc.'s Motion for Summary Judgment (Dkt. # 118)
and Defendants Russell Phagan and Sinistral Shooting Technologies, LLC's Motion for Summary Judgment (Dkt. # 120) are granted.
Brownells, Inc., Russell Phagan, and Sinistral Shooting Technologies, Inc. are terminated as a parties. Plaintiff's Motion for Order Dismissing Claims against Defendant Shawn Nealon with Prejudice (Dkt. # 113) is granted, and GWACS claims against Nealon are dismissed with prejudice.
Nealon is terminated as a party. Defendant KE Arms, LLC's Motion for Summary Judgment (Dkt. # 117) is granted in part and denied in part.
Counterclaim Defendant's Motion for Summary Judgment & Brief in Support (Dkt. # 121) is granted in part and denied in part.
Defendants' Motion for Spoliation Sanctions (Dkt. # 177) is denied.
Defendant Shawn Nealon's Motion for Summary Judgment (Dkt. # 119) is moot.
The pretrial conference set for March 1, 2023 and the jury trial set for March 20, 2023 are STRICKEN.
Final joint proposed pretrial order to be submitted (not filed) no later than March 31, 2023. The pretrial conference is reset for April 5, 2023 at 10:00 a.m, and the jury trial is reset for April 17, 2023 at 9:15 a.m.
This matter is set for an additional settlement conference before Magistrate Judge Christine Little on March 3, 2023 at 9:30 a.m.
Settlement conference statements to be submitted to Judge Little (not filed) no later than March 1, 2023 ; setting/resetting scheduling order date(s): ( Proposed Pretrial Order due by 3/31/2023, Pretrial Conference set for 4/5/2023 at 10:00 AM before Judge Claire V Eagan, Jury Trial set for 4/17/2023 at 09:15 AM before Judge Claire V Eagan);
terminating party Russell Phagan (an individual), Sinistral Shooting Technologies, LLC (an Arizona limited liability company ), Brownells, Inc. (an Iowa corporation) and Shawn Nealon (an individual) ; setting/resetting deadline(s)/hearing(s):
( Settlement Conference set for 3/3/2023 at 09:30 AM before Magistrate Judge Christine D Little, Proposed Pretrial Order due by 3/31/2023, Pretrial Conference set for 4/5/2023 at 10:00 AM before Judge Claire V Eagan, Jury Trial set for 4/17/2023 at 09:15 AM before Judge Claire V Eagan);
granting 113 Motion to Dismiss Party; granting in part and denying in part 117 Motion for Summary Judgment; granting 118 Motion for Summary Judgment; finding as moot 119 Motion for Summary Judgment; granting 120 Motion for Summary Judgment; granting in part and denying in part 121 Motion for Summary Judgment; denying 177 Motion for Sanctions (Re: 113 MOTION to Dismiss Party Shawn Nealon, 117 MOTION for Summary Judgment, 118 MOTION for Summary Judgment, 119 MOTION for Summary Judgment, 120 MOTION for Summary Judgment, 121 MOTION for Summary Judgment, 177 MOTION for Sanctions ) (crp, Dpty Clk) (Entered: 02/23/2023)
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Link Posted: 2/24/2023 6:47:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/24/2023 6:50:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:

You can find his anti-ARFCOM post a few further down.
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What's the backstory on that?
Link Posted: 2/25/2023 12:59:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
I wish Russel would post back in this thread and expound on this.
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He's been banned.
Link Posted: 2/25/2023 1:00:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DogtownTom:


What's the backstory on that?
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Originally Posted By DogtownTom:
Originally Posted By backbencher:  You can find his anti-ARFCOM post a few further down.


What's the backstory on that?


There's one locked thread & 2 other threads on it, this one popped up 1st:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/2625164_Forgotten-Weapons-v-Inrange-v-Admin-Results.html
Link Posted: 3/1/2023 2:44:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: backbencher] [#49]
New Bloke on the Range video - unlisted, link sent to me by Sinistral:

Summary Judgment Drops in GWACS vs KE Arms, Russell Phagan, Brownells et al. Judge Excoriates GWACS!


ETA:  TLDW summary - this is a summary of the Summary Judgement that cut Russell, Brownells, etc out of the lawsuit - only GWACS claims against KE Arms still stand, apparently.
Link Posted: 3/4/2023 12:03:55 AM EDT
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TFB article rehashing the recent summary judgement releasing several folks from the lawsuit:

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2023/03/02/gwacs-ke-arms-update/
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