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Posted: 4/19/2024 1:35:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: EasTexan]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chromekilla: Navigate within the last two pages and pull the labs panel I suggested.274 is damn low, but maxed stress can cause that. Do you hit gym? Are you fat? How's your diet? How's your sleep? I bet not good. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chromekilla: Originally Posted By EasTexan: Well, shit….I knew I’d need this thread one day. 37 years old. Just got my results and I’m at 274. I’m under a ton of stress. 5 month old, work law enforcement and we’re under staffed; I’m a supervisor so it’s nonstop. I also take care of my elderly parents and their estate. Tell me what to do. Navigate within the last two pages and pull the labs panel I suggested.274 is damn low, but maxed stress can cause that. Do you hit gym? Are you fat? How's your diet? How's your sleep? I bet not good. Diet has been shit lately. I try to get 8 hours but I never feel rested. 6’2” 220lbs I went to the gym 6 days a week religiously until my daughter was born. Thank you, I’ll look over all of it. I guess I’ll get an appointment with a men’s testosterone clinic. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 4:36:40 AM EDT
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Although Drs say not a candidate for TRT, have been working with Dr and supplements.
Been monitoring the thread and made a few replies but have a serious question.... What is everyone's objective or goal? Simply get back to functioning or get back to the way you were in your 20s? Happy with once a day or shooting for ability 2-3 times a day? What are the realistic goals? |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 8:54:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JThompson: Although Drs say not a candidate for TRT, have been working with Dr and supplements. Been monitoring the thread and made a few replies but have a serious question.... What is everyone's objective or goal? Simply get back to functioning or get back to the way you were in your 20s? Happy with once a day or shooting for ability 2-3 times a day? What are the realistic goals? Mine was for a few reasons.... To help stabilize emotions, handle stress better, have more confidence Better health (I don't think I've gotten sick, been stuffy, or had allergies like I normally did since I started TRT) Muscle growth Get my sexual drive back I'm happy with it 8 months in. It's a slow change so it can be a little hard to notice improvements, but looking back how I was almost a year ago vs now is pretty dramatic. The libido bounced back with a vengeance within a couple of weeks of starting, so that part was noticeable. Having said all of that, I've had very low T my entire 40 years on this planet due to medical issues. So I expect my results may be more dramatic versus guys that had higher T at some point. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:56:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JThompson: Although Drs say not a candidate for TRT, have been working with Dr and supplements. What were your numbers? 90% of doctors have no clue about TRT which is why most people go to a specialist. Insurance often doesn't cover it or they only want to cover specific scenarios and if insurance won't cover 100% of it the Doctors will say "you are in range". What the doctors don't tell you is that "in range" means acceptable levels for 18 to 80 year olds. If you are 18 with the T level of an 80 year the lab report will show you are in range, insurance won't cover the treatment, and a doctor will tell you that you aren't a candidate. The specialist look at several numbers, age, and factor in how you feel. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:13:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: corwin1968]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EasTexan: Well, shit .I knew I'd need this thread one day. 37 years old. Just got my results and I'm at 274. I'm under a ton of stress. 5 month old, work law enforcement and we're under staffed; I'm a supervisor so it's nonstop. I also take care of my elderly parents and their estate. Tell me what to do. Grant Hormones Dr. Grant's entire practice is TRT and he is in East Texas. Was in Paris but was planning to move about 40 miles South of there. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:05:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By corwin1968: Grant Hormones Dr. Grant's entire practice is TRT and he is in East Texas. Was in Paris but was planning to move about 40 miles South of there. Per his web site.... Texas residents are eligible for televideo appointments. Out of state residents will require an in person appointment. Seems a bit backward. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:22:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By corwin1968: Grant Hormones Dr. Grant's entire practice is TRT and he is in East Texas. Was in Paris but was planning to move about 40 miles South of there. Thanks. Have you had treatment with him? Experience and results? It says I can do online appointments if I’m here in Texas. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 12:06:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EasTexan: Thanks. Have you had treatment with him? Experience and results? It says I can do online appointments if I'm here in Texas. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 12:07:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: corwin1968]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JThompson: Per his web site.... Texas residents are eligible for televideo appointments. Out of state residents will require an in person appointment. Seems a bit backward. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 1:46:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TOTHEMAX]
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I just got the blood work back from my pa. 3 weeks of being on testosterone. The blood draw was on a Monday morning, the day before I administer my weekly shot.
Before: Testosterone231 L264-916 (ng/dL) Free Testosterone(Direct)7.8 After: Testosterone1015 H264-916 (ng/dL) Free Testosterone(Direct)25.2 H When I met when her I informed her I was feeling better. Less tired, I sleep well, etc. She has yet to call me but does anyone have any thoughts on these numbers? |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 1:54:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: I just got the blood work back from my pa. 3 weeks of being on testosterone. The blood draw was on a Monday morning, the day before I administer my weekly shot. Before: Testosterone231 L264-916 (ng/dL) Free Testosterone(Direct)7.8 After: Testosterone1015 H264-916 (ng/dL) Free Testosterone(Direct)25.2 H When I met when her I informed her I was feeling better. Less tired, I sleep well, etc. She has yet to call me but does anyone have any thoughts on these numbers? My TRT doc told me at my first appointment that he was shooting for 1000 TT. Question for you though. What's your injection frequency and how long was it between your last injection and your blood draw? I inject MWF and get my blood drawn Monday before injection. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 2:35:09 PM EDT
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I inject every Tuesday night, so it was 6 days.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 4:08:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: I just got the blood work back from my pa. 3 weeks of being on testosterone. The blood draw was on a Monday morning, the day before I administer my weekly shot. Before: Testosterone231 L264-916 (ng/dL) Free Testosterone(Direct)7.8 After: Testosterone1015 H264-916 (ng/dL) Free Testosterone(Direct)25.2 H When I met when her I informed her I was feeling better. Less tired, I sleep well, etc. She has yet to call me but does anyone have any thoughts on these numbers? How many mgs? Without also knowing e we are shooting. Blind numbers are about in range with what I would expect for trough. Pry running 1400 on so 24-48 after injection. Basically we try to get through dialed in and high point runs where she runs. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 4:58:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EasTexan: Thanks. Have you had treatment with him? Experience and results? It says I can do online appointments if I'm here in Texas. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EasTexan: Originally Posted By corwin1968: Grant Hormones Dr. Grant's entire practice is TRT and he is in East Texas. Was in Paris but was planning to move about 40 miles South of there. Thanks. Have you had treatment with him? Experience and results? It says I can do online appointments if I'm here in Texas. Dr. Grant is one of the main presenters on the TRT and Hormone Optimization Youtube page and Facebook group. He and his wife were practicing urologists until I think this past October, when they devoted their practices to TRT (him) and female hormone replacement (her). They closed their office in Paris, TX but the plan was to operate out of the fitness center next to the hospital, as they are co-owners and had space there. Their plan was to move somewhere about 40 minutes South of Paris, at some point. Dr. Jordan treats to symptom resolution, rather than a number. He'll prescribe Testosterone Cypionate to your preferred pharmacy or you can order compounded cream, which he's a strong proponent of, thru him, sent directly to your home. He doesn't believe in aromatase inhibitors (AI's) and encourages guys to experiment, with reasonable limitations of the prescription, with dosage and frequency to obtain optimal results. Since going private, he switched to a monthly program, rather than per visit. I pay $150 every 3 months, but I think it's slightly higher for people who weren't patients of his prior to the switch. That doesn't include labs or meds, just unlimited access to him, for consultation. I can say that personally, he's a great guy who comes across as being incredibly sincere about helping other men. He's a life-long athlete and the dude looks like a freak of nature, in person. Much more so than he does in pictures and video. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 7:37:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chromekilla: How many mgs? Without also knowing e we are shooting. Blind numbers are about in range with what I would expect for trough. Pry running 1400 on so 24-48 after injection. Basically we try to get through dialed in and high point runs where she runs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chromekilla: Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX: I just got the blood work back from my pa. 3 weeks of being on testosterone. The blood draw was on a Monday morning, the day before I administer my weekly shot. Before: Testosterone231 L264-916 (ng/dL) Free Testosterone(Direct)7.8 After: Testosterone1015 H264-916 (ng/dL) Free Testosterone(Direct)25.2 H When I met when her I informed her I was feeling better. Less tired, I sleep well, etc. She has yet to call me but does anyone have any thoughts on these numbers? How many mgs? Without also knowing e we are shooting. Blind numbers are about in range with what I would expect for trough. Pry running 1400 on so 24-48 after injection. Basically we try to get through dialed in and high point runs where she runs. 1mg / week |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 8:00:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: 1mg / week Do you mean 1ml/week? |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 8:49:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WVUSIG: Do you mean 1ml/week? Must be. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:22:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: Must be. 200 mg a week is pushing into bodybuilding realm imho. Aren't you new on this? I'd be shocked if your provider didn't start you at .5ml, or 100 mg per week and taper it up or down based upon trough to target 700-800 trough |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:46:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chromekilla: 200 mg a week is pushing into bodybuilding realm imho. Aren't you new on this? I'd be shocked if your provider didn't start you at .5ml, or 100 mg per week and taper it up or down based upon trough to target 700-800 trough Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chromekilla: Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX: Must be. 200 mg a week is pushing into bodybuilding realm imho. Aren't you new on this? I'd be shocked if your provider didn't start you at .5ml, or 100 mg per week and taper it up or down based upon trough to target 700-800 trough I am pretty sure it is 1ml / week. I will have to look at the meds when I get home. I don't know about mg's. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:48:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: I am pretty sure it is 1ml / week. I will have to look at the meds when I get home. I don't know about mg's. Most test, but not all is 200 mg/per ml. Thus 1 ml=200 mg. Then I think to actually be all the way correct you need to factor out the oil content... |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 4:21:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chromekilla: 200 mg a week is pushing into bodybuilding realm imho. Aren't you new on this? I'd be shocked if your provider didn't start you at .5ml, or 100 mg per week and taper it up or down based upon trough to target 700-800 trough Gym bros tell people 500mg a week is starting level for body building. I take 200mg a week, split in 2 doses, and my T runs around 900 on the 3rd day after the injection. |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 4:38:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SWIRE: Gym bros tell people 500mg a week is starting level for body building. I take 200mg a week, split in 2 doses, and my T runs around 900 on the 3rd day after the injection. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SWIRE: Originally Posted By Chromekilla: 200 mg a week is pushing into bodybuilding realm imho. Aren't you new on this? I'd be shocked if your provider didn't start you at .5ml, or 100 mg per week and taper it up or down based upon trough to target 700-800 trough Gym bros tell people 500mg a week is starting level for body building. I take 200mg a week, split in 2 doses, and my T runs around 900 on the 3rd day after the injection. Yes, 500mg/wk testosterone is considered a good beginners cycle by basically everybody in the AAS scene. 200mg/wk is generally above what most consider "TRT" as it's almost certainly exceeding what most consider to be a therapeutic range, though everybody responds differently. Personally, 180mg/wk puts me at 1100 total at trough. I'm currently running 200mg/wk. and waiting on bloodwork to be done. I know I'm running it a bit hot, but I'm enjoying the results. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 6:27:24 PM EDT
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Got my blood work back today
Testosterone 709 ng/dl Free Testosterone 12.9 pg/ml Prolactin 8.22 ng/ml Estradiol 29 pg/ml Folate 9 ng/ml B12 310 pg/ml Magnesium 2 mg/dl Cortisol 11.7 ug/dl Starting me on 0.7 ml testosterone once a week injection. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 6:31:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DukeFan23: Got my blood work back today Testosterone 709 ng/dl Free Testosterone 12.9 pg/ml Prolactin 8.22 ng/ml Estradiol 29 pg/ml Folate 9 ng/ml B12 310 pg/ml Magnesium 2 mg/dl Cortisol 11.7 ug/dl Starting me on 0.7 ml testosterone once a week injection. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 6:33:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HappyCamel: What's your SHBG? Your total isn't bad, might be able to unbind more and get your free up Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HappyCamel: Originally Posted By DukeFan23: Got my blood work back today Testosterone 709 ng/dl Free Testosterone 12.9 pg/ml Prolactin 8.22 ng/ml Estradiol 29 pg/ml Folate 9 ng/ml B12 310 pg/ml Magnesium 2 mg/dl Cortisol 11.7 ug/dl Starting me on 0.7 ml testosterone once a week injection. 37.7 |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 6:33:40 PM EDT
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Anyone try clomid aka clomiphene citrate?
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Posted: 4/22/2024 6:38:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DukeFan23: Got my blood work back today Testosterone 709 ng/dl Free Testosterone 12.9 pg/ml Prolactin 8.22 ng/ml Estradiol 29 pg/ml Folate 9 ng/ml B12 310 pg/ml Magnesium 2 mg/dl Cortisol 11.7 ug/dl Starting me on 0.7 ml testosterone once a week injection. I'm surprised they would start you on it. Those are healthy numbers, what many people attempt to target. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:04:37 PM EDT
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Just got my blood work back from my tests prior to my doctors appointment this week. Testosterone is 586 and SHBG is 26.6. That’s three days after my shot. I’m taking 0.75mg Xyosted every ten days. I’ve been struggling with fat loss though the past few months. I was doing well for a while. The past four months, no change. Still working out four days a week and watching what I eat. Not sure if this is part of the issue, or something else.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:09:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cap6888: Just got my blood work back from my tests prior to my doctors appointment this week. Testosterone is 586 and SHBG is 26.6. That’s three days after my shot. I’m taking 0.75mg Xyosted every ten days. I’ve been struggling with fat loss though the past few months. I was doing well for a while. The past four months, no change. Still working out four days a week and watching what I eat. Not sure if this is part of the issue, or something else. Just curious: Why every 10 days, as opposed to every week? I started Xyostd 5 weeks ago. I think it's helping, haven't had another blood test yet. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:14:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Eldorado: Just curious: Why every 10 days, as opposed to every week? I started Xyostd 5 weeks ago. I think it's helping, haven't had another blood test yet. It was messing with my uric acid count. Went from weekly, to biweekly, then settled on ten days. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:31:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DukeFan23: Got my blood work back today Testosterone 709 ng/dl Free Testosterone 12.9 pg/ml Prolactin 8.22 ng/ml Estradiol 29 pg/ml Folate 9 ng/ml B12 310 pg/ml Magnesium 2 mg/dl Cortisol 11.7 ug/dl Starting me on 0.7 ml testosterone once a week injection. Our numbers or pretty close. Drs state not a candidate for TRT. Some supplements seem to have helped, but still debating about giving it a try for a month. Definitely keep the thread updated with results as I will be monitoring. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:43:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JThompson: Our numbers or pretty close. Drs state not a candidate for TRT. Some supplements seem to have helped, but still debating about giving it a try for a month. Definitely keep the thread updated with results as I will be monitoring. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JThompson: Originally Posted By DukeFan23: Got my blood work back today Testosterone 709 ng/dl Free Testosterone 12.9 pg/ml Prolactin 8.22 ng/ml Estradiol 29 pg/ml Folate 9 ng/ml B12 310 pg/ml Magnesium 2 mg/dl Cortisol 11.7 ug/dl Starting me on 0.7 ml testosterone once a week injection. Our numbers or pretty close. Drs state not a candidate for TRT. Some supplements seem to have helped, but still debating about giving it a try for a month. Definitely keep the thread updated with results as I will be monitoring. My doc also recommended D3/K2, B12 and Blended Magnesium Supplement based on my blood work. Gonna give those a try as well. Will do on updating this thread. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 11:43:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ProfessorFalken: Yes, 500mg/wk testosterone is considered a good beginners cycle by basically everybody in the AAS scene. 200mg/wk is generally above what most consider "TRT" as it's almost certainly exceeding what most consider to be a therapeutic range, though everybody responds differently. Personally, 180mg/wk puts me at 1100 total at trough. I'm currently running 200mg/wk. and waiting on bloodwork to be done. I know I'm running it a bit hot, but I'm enjoying the results. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ProfessorFalken: Originally Posted By SWIRE: Originally Posted By Chromekilla: 200 mg a week is pushing into bodybuilding realm imho. Aren't you new on this? I'd be shocked if your provider didn't start you at .5ml, or 100 mg per week and taper it up or down based upon trough to target 700-800 trough Gym bros tell people 500mg a week is starting level for body building. I take 200mg a week, split in 2 doses, and my T runs around 900 on the 3rd day after the injection. Yes, 500mg/wk testosterone is considered a good beginners cycle by basically everybody in the AAS scene. 200mg/wk is generally above what most consider "TRT" as it's almost certainly exceeding what most consider to be a therapeutic range, though everybody responds differently. Personally, 180mg/wk puts me at 1100 total at trough. I'm currently running 200mg/wk. and waiting on bloodwork to be done. I know I'm running it a bit hot, but I'm enjoying the results. Its crazy how everyone responds differently, because I currently run 120mg weekly and my last lab result had me at 1066. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 12:00:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DukeFan23: My doc also recommended D3/K2, B12 and Blended Magnesium Supplement based on my blood work. Gonna give those a try as well. Will do on updating this thread. Hmmm, none those are on my list except the B12 which does absolutely nothing for me. One item that seem to help is the CDG EstroDIM. During one cycle, the total T decreases ever so slightly but based on calculations the FreeT actually increased due to decreasing the estrogen or something to that affect. Basically trying stuff for 4-5 weeks, run blood work, try something else. Currently on the 3rd cycle of testing. Seems like 1 item from each has helped. Next cycle may try the TRT just to see how affective that is. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:57:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tobysi: Anyone try clomid aka clomiphene citrate? Yes.  One of the things that is often done is docs will try out a patient on Clomid to see if that raises T levels substantially. It worked for me for several years. Eventually my SHBG got too high and it just wasn't working right any more (and there were some unpleasant side effects performance wise) so I switched to T shots. I've since read that DHEA supplements can help reduce levels of SHBG that are too high. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 11:47:54 PM EDT
[#36]
My pa lowered my dose down to .5ml per week after my last blood work. I go in again in a few weeks.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:18:22 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: My pa lowered my dose down to .5ml per week after my last blood work. I go in again in a few weeks. That sounds more in the realm of scientific reality/health dose especially for just starting. 200 mg/per ml, .5 ml= 100 mg test. 100 mg put me at 600ish. 8 put me at 850 ish-1000 trough. Now your pa will address your dose up or down based upon trough. Please make sure you are pulling detailed labs as mentioned previously/earlier in this thread. Good sleep gym and nutrition. Don't drink much and you'll be set. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 3:54:46 PM EDT
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Just saw my doc for my semi annual exam. Asked him about adding HCG or gonaderalin to my routine. He had no idea what I was talking about.
Can anyone recommend a place to go to see about adding that to my TRT regimen? TIA |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:14:11 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cap6888: Just saw my doc for my semi annual exam. Asked him about adding HCG or gonaderalin to my routine. He had no idea what I was talking about. Can anyone recommend a place to go to see about adding that to my TRT regimen? TIA you can go to a trt clinic like Defy Medical. Sounds like you dr doesn't know what he is doing if he doesn't know about those two drugs. why do you want to add it? hcg is what you want not the other. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:20:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: My pa lowered my dose down to .5ml per week after my last blood work. I go in again in a few weeks. I will just say you PA doesn't know what they are doing. 3 weeks isnt enough time for the testosterone to full saturate because of the long ester. Then cut your dose in half due to numbers. did they ask you how you feel? Trt is to mitigate the effects from having low testosterone not to get you within a certain range of numbers. My advice is for you to find a better provider who knows what they are doing. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:33:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRealSundance: I will just say you PA doesn't know what they are doing. 3 weeks isnt enough time for the testosterone to full saturate because of the long ester. Then cut your dose in half due to numbers. did they ask you how you feel? Trt is to mitigate the effects from having low testosterone not to get you within a certain range of numbers. My advice is for you to find a better provider who knows what they are doing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRealSundance: Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX: My pa lowered my dose down to .5ml per week after my last blood work. I go in again in a few weeks. I will just say you PA doesn't know what they are doing. 3 weeks isnt enough time for the testosterone to full saturate because of the long ester. Then cut your dose in half due to numbers. did they ask you how you feel? Trt is to mitigate the effects from having low testosterone not to get you within a certain range of numbers. My advice is for you to find a better provider who knows what they are doing. She did ask. I'm not interested in finding another pa as she is pretty awesome to deal with. We will see how this does and if it's worse than the previous I will ask to go back. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 2:01:25 PM EDT
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@TheRealSundance any suggestions on therapy/supplements with dosage for blast and cruise during an injury recovery phase? Every morning I wake up feeling like it is the morning after the first day of conditioning in a sport, tired and sore from head to toe. Unlike with sports the next day doesn't get easier as I get more conditioned or stronger, it is just groundhog day of feeling exhausted and sore.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:33:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SWIRE: @TheRealSundance any suggestions on therapy/supplements with dosage for blast and cruise during an injury recovery phase? Every morning I wake up feeling like it is the morning after the first day of conditioning in a sport, tired and sore from head to toe. Unlike with sports the next day doesn't get easier as I get more conditioned or stronger, it is just groundhog day of feeling exhausted and sore. There are recovery Sarms too. Never used them except for cardarine which really isn't a Sarm but is great for conditioning. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:58:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRealSundance: you can go to a trt clinic like Defy Medical. Sounds like you dr doesn't know what he is doing if he doesn't know about those two drugs. why do you want to add it? hcg is what you want not the other. Looking to improve my testosterone levels (these give a bump to the testosterone), and help in losing weight. From my reading it seems that these are normally used in conjunction with the testosterone. While the testosterone increases levels, the others also help boost your natural production. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 12:26:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cap6888: Looking to improve my testosterone levels (these give a bump to the testosterone), and help in losing weight. From my reading it seems that these are normally used in conjunction with the testosterone. While the testosterone increases levels, the others also help boost your natural production. hcg is used to keep your nuts from shrinking when on Exogenous test and sperm production. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 12:44:45 PM EDT
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Start smoking crack, my boy Tyrone Biggums does it and he is a sexual turanasaus. He even nails broads with vaginas as big as a house. No more of that slack jawwed fa**ot shit.
But seriously, I started taking the blackforrest test with tongkat Ali 2 weeks ago and i have noticed some changes so far. Now if I could just figure something out for a natural energy lift. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:59:24 PM EDT
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I recall in another thread someone mentioned a solid brand of tongkat Ali, and maybe ashkagawanda. I can't seem to locate that thread anymore. Anyone happen to have a solid suggestion of something good quality that works?
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:51:37 AM EDT
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Been on Anastrozole for 3 months now. Was previously reading 62,64,62 the past 18 months.
E2 sensitive flagged as high at 29. Now 3 months later 1mg Anastrozole every 7 days I am at 26. Will retest again in 3 months. Thoughts? |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:14:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Allfal]
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I'm also curious I had to go off Test. for about 4 years due to other medical issues I Have been back on for about 3 months. My dose remained the same as before. .5 ml of 200 mg per ml per week.
I used to run around 800 on my testosterone tests at that dose. My first test was 1065 this time. That seems high. Any ideas? No noticed unusual effects. I am 67 if it matters. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 9:20:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Allfal: I'm also curious I had to go off Test. for about 4 years due to other medical issues I Have been back on for about 3 months. My dose remained the same as before. .5 ml of 200 mg per ml per week. I used to run around 800 on my testosterone tests at that dose. My first test was 1065 this time. That seems high. Any ideas? No noticed unusual effects. I am 67 if it matters. |
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