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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:30:12 PM EDT
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Guys like that give us gun owners a bad name. Put a bullet in him, we don’t claim his stupid ass
ETA apparently the shootee was a bad dude but the way it went down, I’m not surprised the shooter caught some heat for it |
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Occurred in July 2019
looks like there was more to the story, and the victim was actually an ex who was harassing the family ... https://youtu.be/DKvXGydRSxg?si=EcTFxD_bUJeyNusD |
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Originally Posted By jjchumble: Occurred in July 2019 looks like there was more to the story, and the victim was actually an ex who was harassing the family ... https://youtu.be/DKvXGydRSxg?si=EcTFxD_bUJeyNusD View Quote Too late, first post already street justiced his ass |
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Originally Posted By jjchumble: Occurred in July 2019 looks like there was more to the story, and the victim was actually an ex who was harassing the family ... https://youtu.be/DKvXGydRSxg?si=EcTFxD_bUJeyNusD View Quote Still not shooting at someone for trespassing. |
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You see that head come apart?
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Originally Posted By Ruin: Still not shooting at someone for trespassing. View Quote I agree, but this situation was very different than initially reported - the "victim" intentionally went to his ex's house, was known for making threats, had prior arrest for violent crime, was telling the ex she was going to have an "Amber Alert" on the kids, and other harassing behaviors towards the homeowners. I do think homeowner was very lucky to get the charges dropped. I would never recommend shooting someone actively driving away - that's a real quick path to prison in most cases. |
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Was the first shot fired into the ground besides the car before the car got hit? First shot was a warning shot?
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Fujobi Hamp! (F Joe Biden, He ain't my president!)
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Originally Posted By jjchumble: Occurred in July 2019 looks like there was more to the story, and the victim was actually an ex who was harassing the family ... https://youtu.be/DKvXGydRSxg?si=EcTFxD_bUJeyNusD View Quote Still a bad shoot. |
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Soldier for Life
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Originally Posted By jjchumble: Occurred in July 2019 looks like there was more to the story, and the victim was actually an ex who was harassing the family ... https://youtu.be/DKvXGydRSxg?si=EcTFxD_bUJeyNusD View Quote |
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mil-surp gun parts warehouse extraordinaire
OH, USA
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100% thats private pyle from full metal jacket. i know this because i have his picture hanging on my wall here for years now where hes eating a jelly donut. that guys famous!
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independent fundamental baptist. NOT A COMMIE!
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Everyone wants to be a cop, until its time to do real cop shit.
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Originally Posted By GSPatton: That is the most annoying voice I've ever heard. I couldn't listen to it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GSPatton: Originally Posted By jjchumble: Occurred in July 2019 looks like there was more to the story, and the victim was actually an ex who was harassing the family ... https://youtu.be/DKvXGydRSxg?si=EcTFxD_bUJeyNusD Same here. I made it about 10 seconds. |
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Tactical, hyper masculine, military style member.
USA
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wrong thread...weird
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Mach
Nobody is coming to save us. . |
Bad shoot. Aggravated assault or attempted murder, or whatever it's called in that jurisdiction.
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RIP Todd Louis Green - Help research working on a cure for cancer!
http://rampageforthecure.org/ |
Tactical, hyper masculine, military style member.
USA
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Originally Posted By John_Wayne777: Bad shoot. Aggravated assault or attempted murder, or whatever it's called in that jurisdiction. View Quote But heres this: THE TRUTH ABOUT THE INCIDENT: Michael Truelock Vs. Charles Landers (full video) |
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Originally Posted By Boom_Stick: Was it? Seems daily mail had an antigun slant the way they spun it. But heres this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKvXGydRSxg View Quote I'm not looking at news coverage, I'm looking at the legal standard for the justification of the UOF. Ability Opportunity Intent Immediate jeopardy Preclusion The ability to cause death or serious bodily injury isn't visible. The opportunity to use it isn't visible. The intent isn't visible. Even if one could argue on those three, dude is literally driving away. Which gets rid of immediate jeopardy. Lethal force is only justifiable to stop an attack. IF...and it's a big if...there was an attack, when dude is literally trying to escape then it's difficult to argue the attack is ongoing requiring lethal force to stop. The dude taking the video might be the world's biggest shithead and society might be better served if he was removed from the planet. But the shots fired there were not justifiable uses of force. |
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RIP Todd Louis Green - Help research working on a cure for cancer!
http://rampageforthecure.org/ |
Originally Posted By Seneca-Cayuga: There's plenty of morons in GD that will. View Quote Crazy and true that some are just itching to shoot someone. If they do it will change their life forever after legal bills,lawsuits etc. not worth it unless you absolutely need to. Life is not in danger from someone walking across or on property let sheriff deal with it. Now some breaking into house another topic. |
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Correct title-
Gun Owner Shoots Man For Stopping In The Wrong Driveway |
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He who covers his sins will not prosper,
But whoever confesses and forsakes them will have mercy. |
Originally Posted By John_Wayne777: I'm not looking at news coverage, I'm looking at the legal standard for the justification of the UOF. Ability Opportunity Intent Immediate jeopardy Preclusion The ability to cause death or serious bodily injury isn't visible. The opportunity to use it isn't visible. The intent isn't visible. Even if one could argue on those three, dude is literally driving away. Which gets rid of immediate jeopardy. Lethal force is only justifiable to stop an attack. IF...and it's a big if...there was an attack, when dude is literally trying to escape then it's difficult to argue the attack is ongoing requiring lethal force to stop. The dude taking the video might be the world's biggest shithead and society might be better served if he was removed from the planet. But the shots fired there were not justifiable uses of force. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By John_Wayne777: Originally Posted By Boom_Stick: Was it? Seems daily mail had an antigun slant the way they spun it. But heres this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKvXGydRSxg I'm not looking at news coverage, I'm looking at the legal standard for the justification of the UOF. Ability Opportunity Intent Immediate jeopardy Preclusion The ability to cause death or serious bodily injury isn't visible. The opportunity to use it isn't visible. The intent isn't visible. Even if one could argue on those three, dude is literally driving away. Which gets rid of immediate jeopardy. Lethal force is only justifiable to stop an attack. IF...and it's a big if...there was an attack, when dude is literally trying to escape then it's difficult to argue the attack is ongoing requiring lethal force to stop. The dude taking the video might be the world's biggest shithead and society might be better served if he was removed from the planet. But the shots fired there were not justifiable uses of force. All the charges were dropped according to the video. |
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Originally Posted By Ruin: Still not shooting at someone for trespassing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ruin: Originally Posted By jjchumble: Occurred in July 2019 looks like there was more to the story, and the victim was actually an ex who was harassing the family ... https://youtu.be/DKvXGydRSxg?si=EcTFxD_bUJeyNusD Still not shooting at someone for trespassing. If someone promises to hurt your children, and then they actually show up to your property where the kids live, I don't think you would view that situation as simple trespassing. |
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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Man I was so hoping this was the 'a car isn't worth your life - FAFO' PT.II thread.
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-Women should always wear tight clothes and men should carry powerful handguns
-Eamus Brandonus |
Originally Posted By HDLS: All the charges were dropped according to the video. View Quote I don't doubt it. That's part of prosecutorial discretion. They can choose to not prosecute a case because they don't believe they can get a conviction given the circumstances. Often when the act is criminal but the victim of the criminal act is a shithead a jury will break out the fuck around, find out defense and there's no point in bringing the prosecution. That doesn't change the objective reality around the UOF, though. If a police officer walked into a trailer and found what used to be a pretty little 10 year old girl dismembered by mom and her shithead boyfriend and he blew their brains out right there in the trailer and I was on the jury, I'd probably vote not guilty, too. It's still murder, but it's murdering the worst fucking people on earth so go and sin no more. |
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RIP Todd Louis Green - Help research working on a cure for cancer!
http://rampageforthecure.org/ |
It was in Texas.
Everyone knows you don't pull into driveways in Texas because you get killed for doing that. |
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Celebrating the remains of the Second Amendment one Fine Firearm at a Time. It was better here before.
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A Daily Mail post that only gives part of the story.
Color me shocked. |
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Dude didn't want him there and won't let him leave...
Seems well thought out. If I go out to see why someone is in my driveway, I MAY be armed, but I'm not pulling it without a damn good reason. If the guy won't leave, I'm probably just going to ask the township police to stop on by and have a little talk with the guy. This is a fucking idiot and should rethink gun ownership, assuming he still can own them after this all shakes out. Of course, the Karens on Facebook see this and want more gun control. Thanks, asshole. |
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"All planes close up tight . . .we'll have to ditch unless landfall . . .when the first plane drops below 10 gallons, we all go down together."
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Originally Posted By jjchumble: I agree, but this situation was very different than initially reported - the "victim" intentionally went to his ex's house, was known for making threats, had prior arrest for violent crime, was telling the ex she was going to have an "Amber Alert" on the kids, and other harassing behaviors towards the homeowners. I do think homeowner was very lucky to get the charges dropped. I would never recommend shooting someone actively driving away - that's a real quick path to prison in most cases. View Quote Yeah, call the local police. Make a report. It doesn't matter if he leaves or not. They DID take out a protection/restraining order on the guy, right? Right? Dude may be fucking around, but absent of an immediate threat, no need to shoot. |
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"All planes close up tight . . .we'll have to ditch unless landfall . . .when the first plane drops below 10 gallons, we all go down together."
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Tactical, hyper masculine, military style member.
USA
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