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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:30:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:32:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Pair_of_ACES]
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Guys like that give us gun owners a bad name. Put a bullet in him, we don’t claim his stupid ass
ETA apparently the shootee was a bad dude but the way it went down, I’m not surprised the shooter caught some heat for it |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:34:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: Guys like that give us gun owners a bad name. Put a bullet in him, we don’t claim his stupid ass The irony |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:44:29 PM EDT
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Occurred in July 2019
looks like there was more to the story, and the victim was actually an ex who was harassing the family ... https://youtu.be/DKvXGydRSxg?si=EcTFxD_bUJeyNusD |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:01:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jjchumble: Occurred in July 2019 looks like there was more to the story, and the victim was actually an ex who was harassing the family ... https://youtu.be/DKvXGydRSxg?si=EcTFxD_bUJeyNusD Too late, first post already street justiced his ass 
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:06:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: Guys like that give us gun owners a bad name. Put a bullet in him, we don’t claim his stupid ass First post did not nail it. More to the story. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:07:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jjchumble: Occurred in July 2019 looks like there was more to the story, and the victim was actually an ex who was harassing the family ... https://youtu.be/DKvXGydRSxg?si=EcTFxD_bUJeyNusD Still not shooting at someone for trespassing. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 11:52:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ruin: Still not shooting at someone for trespassing. I agree, but this situation was very different than initially reported - the "victim" intentionally went to his ex's house, was known for making threats, had prior arrest for violent crime, was telling the ex she was going to have an "Amber Alert" on the kids, and other harassing behaviors towards the homeowners. I do think homeowner was very lucky to get the charges dropped. I would never recommend shooting someone actively driving away - that's a real quick path to prison in most cases. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 11:57:31 PM EDT
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Was the first shot fired into the ground besides the car before the car got hit? First shot was a warning shot?
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Posted: 4/29/2024 12:05:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jjchumble: Occurred in July 2019 looks like there was more to the story, and the victim was actually an ex who was harassing the family ... https://youtu.be/DKvXGydRSxg?si=EcTFxD_bUJeyNusD Still a bad shoot. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 12:10:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LineHaul: The irony Right |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 12:11:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jjchumble: Occurred in July 2019 looks like there was more to the story, and the victim was actually an ex who was harassing the family ... https://youtu.be/DKvXGydRSxg?si=EcTFxD_bUJeyNusD |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 3:35:58 AM EDT
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100% thats private pyle from full metal jacket. i know this because i have his picture hanging on my wall here for years now where hes eating a jelly donut. that guys famous!
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Posted: 4/29/2024 3:45:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ruin: Still not shooting at someone for trespassing. There's plenty of morons in GD that will. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 3:48:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GSPatton: That is the most annoying voice I've ever heard. I couldn't listen to it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GSPatton: Originally Posted By jjchumble: Occurred in July 2019 looks like there was more to the story, and the victim was actually an ex who was harassing the family ... https://youtu.be/DKvXGydRSxg?si=EcTFxD_bUJeyNusD Same here. I made it about 10 seconds. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:23:11 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/29/2024 7:02:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Mach]
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wrong thread...weird
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Posted: 4/29/2024 7:21:53 AM EDT
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Bad shoot. Aggravated assault or attempted murder, or whatever it's called in that jurisdiction.
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Posted: 4/29/2024 9:26:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777: Bad shoot. Aggravated assault or attempted murder, or whatever it's called in that jurisdiction. But heres this:  THE TRUTH ABOUT THE INCIDENT: Michael Truelock Vs. Charles Landers (full video) |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 9:35:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: John_Wayne777]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boom_Stick: Was it? Seems daily mail had an antigun slant the way they spun it. But heres this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKvXGydRSxgI'm not looking at news coverage, I'm looking at the legal standard for the justification of the UOF. Ability Opportunity Intent Immediate jeopardy Preclusion The ability to cause death or serious bodily injury isn't visible. The opportunity to use it isn't visible. The intent isn't visible. Even if one could argue on those three, dude is literally driving away. Which gets rid of immediate jeopardy. Lethal force is only justifiable to stop an attack. IF...and it's a big if...there was an attack, when dude is literally trying to escape then it's difficult to argue the attack is ongoing requiring lethal force to stop. The dude taking the video might be the world's biggest shithead and society might be better served if he was removed from the planet. But the shots fired there were not justifiable uses of force. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:30:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seneca-Cayuga: There's plenty of morons in GD that will. Crazy and true that some are just itching to shoot someone. If they do it will change their life forever after legal bills,lawsuits etc. not worth it unless you absolutely need to. Life is not in danger from someone walking across or on property let sheriff deal with it. Now some breaking into house another topic. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:33:27 AM EDT
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Correct title-
Gun Owner Shoots Man For Stopping In The Wrong Driveway |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:35:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777: I'm not looking at news coverage, I'm looking at the legal standard for the justification of the UOF. Ability Opportunity Intent Immediate jeopardy Preclusion The ability to cause death or serious bodily injury isn't visible. The opportunity to use it isn't visible. The intent isn't visible. Even if one could argue on those three, dude is literally driving away. Which gets rid of immediate jeopardy. Lethal force is only justifiable to stop an attack. IF...and it's a big if...there was an attack, when dude is literally trying to escape then it's difficult to argue the attack is ongoing requiring lethal force to stop. The dude taking the video might be the world's biggest shithead and society might be better served if he was removed from the planet. But the shots fired there were not justifiable uses of force. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777: Originally Posted By Boom_Stick: Was it? Seems daily mail had an antigun slant the way they spun it. But heres this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKvXGydRSxgI'm not looking at news coverage, I'm looking at the legal standard for the justification of the UOF. Ability Opportunity Intent Immediate jeopardy Preclusion The ability to cause death or serious bodily injury isn't visible. The opportunity to use it isn't visible. The intent isn't visible. Even if one could argue on those three, dude is literally driving away. Which gets rid of immediate jeopardy. Lethal force is only justifiable to stop an attack. IF...and it's a big if...there was an attack, when dude is literally trying to escape then it's difficult to argue the attack is ongoing requiring lethal force to stop. The dude taking the video might be the world's biggest shithead and society might be better served if he was removed from the planet. But the shots fired there were not justifiable uses of force. All the charges were dropped according to the video. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:41:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ruin: Still not shooting at someone for trespassing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ruin: Originally Posted By jjchumble: Occurred in July 2019 looks like there was more to the story, and the victim was actually an ex who was harassing the family ... https://youtu.be/DKvXGydRSxg?si=EcTFxD_bUJeyNusD Still not shooting at someone for trespassing. If someone promises to hurt your children, and then they actually show up to your property where the kids live, I don't think you would view that situation as simple trespassing. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:44:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HDLS: All the charges were dropped according to the video. They were. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:47:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HDLS]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Correct title- Gun Owner Shoots Man For Stopping In The Wrong Driveway He wasn't in the wrong driveway, that was just the story he made up, the shooter's wife is that guy's ex and there is a documented history prior to the event of stalking, harassing and threatening his ex wife and her family. He was arrested this year for stalking and threatening too.  |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:48:06 AM EDT
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Man I was so hoping this was the 'a car isn't worth your life - FAFO' PT.II thread.
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:51:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HDLS: All the charges were dropped according to the video. I don't doubt it. That's part of prosecutorial discretion. They can choose to not prosecute a case because they don't believe they can get a conviction given the circumstances. Often when the act is criminal but the victim of the criminal act is a shithead a jury will break out the fuck around, find out defense and there's no point in bringing the prosecution. That doesn't change the objective reality around the UOF, though. If a police officer walked into a trailer and found what used to be a pretty little 10 year old girl dismembered by mom and her shithead boyfriend and he blew their brains out right there in the trailer and I was on the jury, I'd probably vote not guilty, too. It's still murder, but it's murdering the worst fucking people on earth so go and sin no more. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:52:57 AM EDT
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It was in Texas.
Everyone knows you don't pull into driveways in Texas because you get killed for doing that. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:03:05 AM EDT
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A Daily Mail post that only gives part of the story.
Color me shocked. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:10:15 AM EDT
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Dude didn't want him there and won't let him leave...
Seems well thought out. If I go out to see why someone is in my driveway, I MAY be armed, but I'm not pulling it without a damn good reason. If the guy won't leave, I'm probably just going to ask the township police to stop on by and have a little talk with the guy. This is a fucking idiot and should rethink gun ownership, assuming he still can own them after this all shakes out. Of course, the Karens on Facebook see this and want more gun control. Thanks, asshole. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:12:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jjchumble: I agree, but this situation was very different than initially reported - the "victim" intentionally went to his ex's house, was known for making threats, had prior arrest for violent crime, was telling the ex she was going to have an "Amber Alert" on the kids, and other harassing behaviors towards the homeowners. I do think homeowner was very lucky to get the charges dropped. I would never recommend shooting someone actively driving away - that's a real quick path to prison in most cases. Yeah, call the local police. Make a report. It doesn't matter if he leaves or not. They DID take out a protection/restraining order on the guy, right? Right? Dude may be fucking around, but absent of an immediate threat, no need to shoot. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:17:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tep0583: Dude may be fucking around, but absent of an immediate threat, no need to shoot. |
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