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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:45:10 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Surely the next Republican Speaker will be a hardcore conservative MAGA supporter. If only it weren't for a handful of RINOs that thwart the overwhelming MAGA majority, we wouldn't be having these problems. Is securing the border only a MAGA issue? You don’t care about the border? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:47:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is securing the border only a MAGA issue? You don’t care about the border? Can’t speak for him but it’s obvious the party doesn’t give a damn. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:48:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FISA abuse is far from a conspiracy I’m saying Mike Johnson could have simply learned new information and changed his mind. Changing his mind doesn’t mean he is being blackmailed or threatened. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:49:01 PM EDT
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Knew it was coming eventually, but atleast he lasted longer than McCarthy. lol Fuck it, time to vote him out. Next!
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:49:34 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m saying Mike Johnson could have simply learned new information and changed his mind. Changing his mind doesn’t mean he is being blackmailed or threatened. So he’s ok with a corrupt system that allows for abuse and hasn’t been corrected. Yeah that’s better. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:49:37 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nobody new is being convinced by bullshitty headlines like "To Pay Off Ukrainian Leader Zelensky". It's eye roll worthy at this point, in fact. Stacking dead Russians in the best thing my tax money has been spot on that I can remember, and for a teeny tiny fraction of what Iraq and Afghanistan cost us. We need to send them Tomahawks. Killin Rooskis supports American national interests and security how? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:51:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s 34.6 Trillion right now. & climbing by the second. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: $95B is mortgaging our future away?!? Our Nation's future hangs on giving away $95B? $32 trilion spend on bullshit and our future hangs on this? It’s 34.6 Trillion right now. & climbing by the second. And according to a large majority of people on this website the only way to stop it is to re-elect the guy who holds the single term record for government spending by adding nearly 9 trillion to the national debt while he was president. I’ve been assured it WILL be different this time though! |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:52:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Let me know when speaker Johnson triples down on border security. Perhaps we can talk about giving money away to other countries after our country is 100% secure. America. American's American interests In that order. And only that order. Helping another nation fighting to stay independent of Russia. While Russia tries to use every maneuvers to undermine and topple the US is the most America First thing we can do. Having our systems and target key infrastructure. Bot farms trying to spread disinformation to get Americans to hate the USA and destabilize the country. We been enemies for 70+ years. They've always been anti-West. What's up with this revisionist crap about Russia not being a real serious adversary to the United States?  |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:52:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does misuse of FISA warrants somehow mean they’ve also never been used for their lawful intended purpose? It’s not possible that Johnson actually got a peak behind the curtain and determined that their continued use is in the net best interests for the national security of the nation? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Did I miss where they put protections in place to prevent future misuse of the FISA system or is that just something we’re going to have to live with? Does misuse of FISA warrants somehow mean they’ve also never been used for their lawful intended purpose? It’s not possible that Johnson actually got a peak behind the curtain and determined that their continued use is in the net best interests for the national security of the nation? It's possible. Like how it's possible I will hit nine blackjacks in a row the next time I play. Here's what we don't need to guess at though: 278,000 documented abuses in four years, and across its entire life span, a FISA warrant has never stopped a single terrorist attack. You'd have to believe the FBI is truly not filled with partisan scumbags in order to arrive at such a conclusion that this unfolded in such a storybook, righteous way. Which is more likely? That this is the case, or is more likely that the FBI told him "haybro - here's some interesting stuff that will convince you to vote how we say." ? The 278,000 abuses weren't accidents. Once you have consumed and bathed in illegally obtained information, it's done. It can't ever be taken away from you. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:53:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, not really. The federal govt has spent well over 5 trillion dollars a year for domestic reasons the last 5ish years. The hilarious bickering over 100 billion is just funny to me. Then we end up with people here complaining 'but WHY ARENT YOU SPENDING IT HERE' while ignoring the trillions spent here. The biggest problem the US has is social program spending. The end. Nothing else comes close to it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A billion here, a billion there...pretty soon we are talking real money. The “it’s just a drop in the bucket” belief system you espouse is exactly how we got to that 5 trillion annual spending. Every new program and every new expansion of spending was sold with exactly that same attitude until we are at 34 trillion in debt. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:53:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does misuse of FISA warrants somehow mean they’ve also never been used for their lawful intended purpose? It’s not possible that Johnson actually got a peak behind the curtain and determined that their continued use is in the net best interests for the national security of the nation? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Did I miss where they put protections in place to prevent future misuse of the FISA system or is that just something we’re going to have to live with? Does misuse of FISA warrants somehow mean they’ve also never been used for their lawful intended purpose? It’s not possible that Johnson actually got a peak behind the curtain and determined that their continued use is in the net best interests for the national security of the nation? Trading freedom and liberty, under the guise of security and yet more government control. Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet, I guess. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:55:36 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So he’s ok with a corrupt system that allows for abuse and hasn’t been corrected. Yeah that’s better. Maybe it’s not a black and white issue? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:56:48 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trading freedom and liberty, under the guise of security and yet more government control. Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet, I guess. Don’t blame me. Take it up with the speaker. Or Matt Gaetz. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:57:10 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can’t speak for him but it’s obvious the party doesn’t give a damn. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is securing the border only a MAGA issue? You don’t care about the border? Can’t speak for him but it’s obvious the party doesn’t give a damn. I live 30 minutes from Mexico. I deal with illegal immigrants daily. I go through two closed CBP check points a day. My political affiliation has nothing to do with being upset I have see illegals daily and deal with crime that accompanies it. That is the main concern from me. Ukraine is in Europe and Europe has the money to provide to Ukraine. Europe can supply all the weaponry needed for Ukraine. I, on the other hand, am far more concerned with a wide open border than I am with Russia. Stop any and all foreign aid to all countries until border is secure and illegals deported. Open border poses a greater threat to us than Ukraine’s border. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:57:28 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe it’s not a black and white issue? Dafuq? 
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:58:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dafuq? This is not complicated. Just because FISA warrants have been used for bad, doesn’t mean they’ve only been used for bad. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:58:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Think of all the money America saved not by sending any defense funds to Poland and Czech in the 1930s. You do realize that the US was militarily inferior to most of Europe in the 1930's, right? In 1939, the US had a smaller military than Portugal, which was ranked 17th in the world. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:59:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is not complicated. Just because FISA warrants have been used for bad, doesn’t mean they’ve only been used for bad. Stop trolling |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:59:45 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $95B is mortgaging our future away?!? Our Nation's future hangs on giving away $95B? $32 trilion spend on bullshit and our future hangs on this? People don't think numbers be like they is, but they do. I get it as a matter of principle, but welfare is the similar IIRC it's like <1% of the bidget. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:01:19 PM EDT
[#20]
 Rand Paul: Mike Johnson Is Like A Democrat |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:07:53 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If that classified briefing showed the tenuous situation going on in Ukraine and Russia and that the Russian military is running at about 15% of what it was at it's peak and that Ukraine ultimately has to dig in and hold out for about another year or two. Yes. Or, do you believe that the Biden Administration under the guise of a false "classified breifing" actually used intimidation or threats, to force a spending appropriation? The current sitting "Wiseguy" President sent his goons the FBI to potentially "rough up" the sitting Speaker of the House? Yeah, I don't think you're on target on this, not even close. Because I don’t trust communists (the Administration), he’s closer to the truth than you are. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:10:41 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $95B is mortgaging our future away?!? Our Nation's future hangs on giving away $95B? $32 trilion spend on bullshit and our future hangs on this? 95 billion here, 95 billion there, pretty soon you're talking about some real money. It's probably too late anyway. Let's just cut checks to everybody for everything and solve all problems except for the debt. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:12:50 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Stop trolling I’m. Not. Arguing. For. FISA. Warrants. I’m trying to explain to you why Mike Johnson might. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:19:12 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I live 30 minutes from Mexico. I deal with illegal immigrants daily. I go through two closed CBP check points a day. My political affiliation has nothing to do with being upset I have see illegals daily and deal with crime that accompanies it. That is the main concern from me. Ukraine is in Europe and Europe has the money to provide to Ukraine. Europe can supply all the weaponry needed for Ukraine. I, on the other hand, am far more concerned with a wide open border than I am with Russia. Stop any and all foreign aid to all countries until border is secure and illegals deported. Open border poses a greater threat to us than Ukraine’s border. The Boomercons would rather see you and your family dead or improvised just to get more murder porn to jerk off to on X. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:20:25 PM EDT
[#25]
LOL "mortgaging American future to pay off Ukrainain Leader Zelensky" I cannot possibly find a big enough eyeroll emote. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:21:12 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Stop trolling Trunp is a retard that loves throwing out countless accusations without evidence. SECTION 702 EXPLAINED FOR DUMMIES:  |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:25:35 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So those of us who said Matt Gaetz was acting foolishly, were right? Not at all. You are not correct on this occasion. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:25:48 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $95B is mortgaging our future away?!? Our Nation's future hangs on giving away $95B? $32 trilion spend on bullshit and our future hangs on this? Right. It's the equivalent of giving a homeless man some pocket change. We are facing 1 trillion annual interest payments. Right here, right now and 1.6T is just around the corner. It serves nothing, pays for nothing |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:29:03 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trunp is a retard that loves throwing out countless accusations without evidence. SECTION 702 EXPLAINED FOR DUMMIES: https://i.postimg.cc/NFYXy1rV/Screenshot-20240417-181943-Samsung-Notes.jpg Who said anything about Trump? lol |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:29:26 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $95B is mortgaging our future away?!? Our Nation's future hangs on giving away $95B? $32 trilion spend on bullshit and our future hangs on this? How much is he spending on securing our border? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:31:51 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $95B is mortgaging our future away?!? Our Nation's future hangs on giving away $95B? $32 trilion spend on bullshit and our future hangs on this? and every dollar is debt with interest to be paid FOREVER, so it is not $95 billion. These corrupt motherfuckers having been selling out this nation my entire life. When the so called GREAT CONSERVATIVE Reagan took officer this nation was under one trillion in debt. Look where we are today and there is no end in sight. We are still paying interest on debt for ships, planes, vehicles, bombs, missiles, and guns that are long gone. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:39:16 PM EDT
[#32]
Johnson and the GOP are so worthless.
They could of leveraged impeach DHS Secretary Mayorkas or no voteon aid. Real border control or no vote on aid. But no, just like Schumer is saying they are going to get everything THEY want. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:42:49 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who said anything about Trump? lol The fact a lot of people are forming their opinions based on what that idiot says. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:43:00 PM EDT
[#34]
BY GOLLY!!! WE SURE ARE GOING TO GET THOSE RUSSIANS!!!!
[hoarse Boomer chuckle] |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:48:37 PM EDT
[#35]
i support ENHANCED military aid for Ukraine equipment / support / tech -- NOT outright cash they are more than willing to do the fighting |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:51:15 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The fact a lot of people are forming their opinions based on what that idiot says. Opinions on what? Pretty blanket statement you’re using to discount people who don’t agree with you. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:52:15 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i support ENHANCED military aid for Ukraine equipment / support / tech -- NOT outright cash they are more than willing to do the fighting I’m good with this but not at the cost of border security. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:52:27 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Opinions on what? Pretty blanket statement you're using to discount people who don't agree with you. "KILL FISA, IT WAS ILLEGALLY USED AGAINST ME, AND MANY OTHERS. THEY SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN!!!" Trump wrote Wednesday on Truth Social before a meeting of House Republicans to talk about FISA. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:53:26 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trunp is a retard that loves throwing out countless accusations without evidence. SECTION 702 EXPLAINED FOR DUMMIES: https://i.postimg.cc/NFYXy1rV/Screenshot-20240417-181943-Samsung-Notes.jpg  |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:54:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He is now. It really begs the question of what does the establishment have over these people? Threats of violence, death, or financial ruin? Promises of huge fortunes? Someone doesn't go from Freedom Caucus to Establishment Loyalist over night without something major being threatened or promised. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:58:11 PM EDT
[#41]
Mike started strong. Has turned out to be an utter failure.
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:59:14 PM EDT
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Good
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:01:41 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He is now. It really begs the question of what does the establishment have over these people? Threats of violence, death, or financial ruin? Promises of huge fortunes? Someone doesn't go from Freedom Caucus to Establishment Loyalist over night without something major being threatened or promised. Or maybe instead of some vast conspiracy he was pressured by the large bi partisan majority who want to see these bills passed. He was also most likely briefed on the absolute shit show in Europe and the new Cold War that will ensue if Ukraine falls to Russia. It also doesn’t help that the GOP has a razor thin majority in the house. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:04:56 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "KILL FISA, IT WAS ILLEGALLY USED AGAINST ME, AND MANY OTHERS. THEY SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN!!!" Trump wrote Wednesday on Truth Social before a meeting of House Republicans to talk about FISA. Wait. Are you actually saying that didn’t happen or any of the other abuses didn’t happen? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:09:02 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good Not even close. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:13:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait. Are you actually saying that didn’t happen or any of the other abuses didn’t happen? He might be alluding to the fact that section 702 of the FISA Act is the portion which is up for debate in the legislature because it expires on April 19th, but it happens to not be the portion of the law which was used to spy on the Trump campaign. 702 deals specifically with foreigners overseas. “I look forward to talking with him about it,” Johnson said of Trump. “I mean, here’s the thing about FISA — he’s not wrong. Of course, they abused FISA. The whole Carter Page investigation — that whole fiasco was built on false premises, the fake Russian dossier and all the other things. But these reforms would actually kill the abuses that allow President Trump’s campaign to be spied on.” ETA - So like I said earlier, things aren’t always black and white. It sounds like the FISA reforms Johnson is pushing actually remove the portions which were absurd to illegally spy on the Trump campaign. https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/4584988-trump-on-warrantless-surveillance-reauthorization-kill-fisa/ |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:22:15 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You do realize that the US was militarily inferior to most of Europe in the 1930's, right? In 1939, the US had a smaller military than Portugal, which was ranked 17th in the world. And how many thousands of young GIs died because we hadn’t invested in a strong army and had to build up and learning everything in blood? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:25:53 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Stop trolling Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is not complicated. Just because FISA warrants have been used for bad, doesn’t mean they’ve only been used for bad. Stop trolling Stop quoting him,,, all of you. Jay |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:29:33 PM EDT
[#49]
Is this guy worth millions despite making 150 grand a year in service to the public? To completely fuck over your constituents, country and pretty much everyone and everything else for some corrupt Ukranian shithole , im guessing there is money involved to his benefit?
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:31:58 PM EDT
[#50]
Enough is enough with this cross dressing midget
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