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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:16:01 AM EDT
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https://dailycaller.com/2024/04/21/military-could-hit-troops-with-court-martials-for-refusing-to-use-preferred-pronouns-experts-say/


Micaela Burrow
Investigative Reporter, Defense
April 21, 2024 7:58 PM ET
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The military could seek to formally punish service members for refusing to use another service member’s preferred pronouns under existing policy, according to military experts.

A 2020 Equal Opportunity law opened the door for commanders to subject someone who refuses to affirm a transgender servicemember’s so-called gender identity to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) for charges related to harassment, Capt. Thomas Wheatley, an assistant professor at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, told the Daily Caller News Foundation. Such a move would likely infringe on a servicemember’s constitutional rights to uphold their conscience, but it might not prevent leaders from employing more subtle ways of disciplining service members.

Military experts told the DCNF Congress should step in before it’s too late.

The military “is right to want to protect the rights and welfare of its transgender service members. But it owes the same protection to those who share a different perspective on the issue, especially when that perspective is a deep-seated expression of personal conscience,” Wheatley told the DCNF. (RELATED: Pentagon Won’t Respond To New Research Casting Doubt On Studies Supporting Military’s DEI Push)

None of the military’s rules explicitly prohibit so-called “misgendering,” when someone uses pronouns to describe a transgender person which do not correspond to the person’s new gender identity, Wheatley explained. However, existing guidance implies that using pronouns rejected by another person violates Military Equal Opportunity (MEO) regulations against sex-based harassment and discrimination.

The UCMJ enforces those regulations.

Service members could conceivably be court-martialed for “refusing to use another person’s self-identified pronouns, even when their refusal stems from principled religious conviction,” Wheatley told the DCNF. “This law applies to service members at all times and in all locations, even when they’re off duty and in the privacy of their off-post residence.”

UCMJ also prohibits “conduct unbecoming of an officer” and activity that could be seen to discredit the military institution — the same article the military uses to prosecute child pornographers and other acts of sexual deviance, he explained.

“Is it now ‘unbecoming’ and incompatible with service as a commissioned officer to openly hold sincere religious convictions surrounding the act of creation and the nature of human sex?” Wheatley asked.

Wheatley said his interest in the issue was sparked four years ago, when the Army updated its MEO policy stating “violations of MEO and Harassment Prevention and Response policies may result in disciplinary action under the UCMJ.”

The possibility of levying a criminal trial on a servicemember for perceived harassment if that person “misgendered” another service member troubled Wheatley, he said. The Supreme Court had just ruled on Bostock v. Clayton County in favor of the gay and transgender plaintiffs alleging their employers fired them on the basis of their self-described sexual orientation, or gender identity. Conservative justices warned the case could have far-reaching consequences for organizations operating based on religious belief and free exercise of religion in the workplace.

“I knew, given the cultural gap between the civilian world and the military, the issue would be overlooked as it concerned service members. So, I got to work,” he told the DCNF.

In a peer reviewed article recently published in the Texas Review of Law and Politics, Wheatley argued that, despite the existing EO policy, Articles 133 and 134 of the UCMJ are not strong enough to prosecute troops for spurning another’s preferred pronouns.

Under a legal doctrine that “obligates military courts to avoid interpreting the UCMJ in a way that brings it into conflict with the Constitution if possible, that would normally be the end of the analysis,” he wrote. But, the national security imperatives inbuilt with military service often justify curtailing a servicemember’s constitutional rights — for example, the UCMJ’s Article 134 “indecent language.”

Wheatley countered in the article that the military’s special mission can inform judicial analysis but does not require a separate standard.

“A court that applies a standard lower than strict scrutiny would be placing not just a thumb on the scale in the government’s favor, but an anvil — one which virtually guarantees victory for the government in every case where a service member asserts his or her First Amendment rights,” he wrote. It would be “tough” for the military to prove it had a strong enough mission-related argument to mandate gender-pronoun usage.

Arguments that might be considered, such as preserving harmony within military units and safeguarding transgender troops’ emotional and psychological well-being, are certainly important, he wrote. But the former relies too heavily on the vicissitudes of individual interpretation to survive judicial review, while the latter does not take into account the health of the servicemember seeking to live out their religious convictions.

“Preserving unit cohesion and safeguarding the mental and emotional health of transgender service members, though compelling government interests, do not justify the sweeping prior restraints on speech,” made possible in the Army policy, Wheatley wrote.

Previous case law shows that even in military contexts, the standard for what may be prohibited compelled speech is strong, he found.

Looking at previous cases of public employment law governing speech, where free speech has been more frequently challenged than in military-specific case law, he likewise found no strong case for mandating pronoun use.

“The use of one pronoun over another reflects the speaker’s private views on human sex and gender” and isn’t conditioned on the person’s employment, Wheatley argued.

The Pentagon referred the DCNF to the services, which did not respond to requests for comment by deadline.

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Wheatley’s research highlights ongoing concerns about the military’s respect for matters of conscience.

Pentagon leaders have pushed diversity and inclusion as an indispensable component of warfighting effectiveness. Opponents say the focus focus on race, gender and sexual identity has distracted the military from more important issues and unfairly privileged minorities. DEI priorities have now overtaken matters of conscience in multiple domains.

In lawsuits over the slow-rolling of religious waivers to the COVID-19 vaccine, for example, victims argued the services issued blanket denials rather than considering each request individually, as they are legally required to do.

Defense Department documents, including the 2022 Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) Strategic Plan, discuss the freedom to “speak candidly” about issues as a “readiness imperative,” ensuring troops feel included as part of a whole.

“The military policy and legal infrastructure clearly exist to wage war on Americans with deeply-held traditional beliefs about man and woman,” William Thibeau, director of the Claremont Institute’s American Military Project, told the DCNF. Wheatley’s article “should be a red flag to policy makers and elected officials to end this tyranny of liberalism before it is formally levied against American Soldiers preferring to live in reality.”

Experts were not aware of any incidents where a branch of the armed services had attempted to use the UCMJ to punish a servicemember for refusing preferred pronouns.

Commanders do have a wide berth to discipline servicemembers in ways that do not involve a criminal trial but can still have serious implications for a servicemember’s career, possibly including separation from the military under less than honorable circumstances, Wheatley said. Such measures resolve more quickly, have a lower burden of proof than “are almost always shielded from public scrutiny.”

Instead of leaving it to chance, Congress could force the military to establish a servicemember’s “unqualified” right to use pronouns consistent with their religious convictions, a one-pager provided by Claremont suggested. The experts advocated stronger measures too, including decriminalizing unspecified MEO violations and to narrow its scope so that it only applies to activities a servicemember performs while on normal duty hours or contributing to an official military mission.

Congress should develop a public record of incidents in the military where religious freedom is seen to come under threat, the document stated.

Claremont suggested the military conduct regular training on the importance of religious freedom throughout the armed forces and study ways to strengthen protections on service members’ religious expression.

Wheatley also said service chiefs could consider demands for a service member to speak in violation of his or her religious convictions as harassment.
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A 2020 Equal Opportunity law opened the door for commanders to subject someone who refuses to affirm a transgender servicemember’s so-called gender identity to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) for charges related to harassment, Capt. Thomas Wheatley, an assistant professor at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, told the Daily Caller News Foundation. Such a move would likely infringe on a servicemember’s constitutional rights to uphold their conscience, but it might not prevent leaders from employing more subtle ways of disciplining service members.

None of the military’s rules explicitly prohibit so-called “misgendering,” when someone uses pronouns to describe a transgender person which do not correspond to the person’s new gender identity, Wheatley explained. However, existing guidance implies that using pronouns rejected by another person violates Military Equal Opportunity (MEO) regulations against sex-based harassment and discrimination.

The UCMJ enforces those regulations.

Service members could conceivably be court-martialed for “refusing to use another person’s self-identified pronouns, even when their refusal stems from principled religious conviction,” Wheatley told the DCNF. “This law applies to service members at all times and in all locations, even when they’re off duty and in the privacy of their off-post residence.”
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:19:21 AM EDT
[#1]
Living in clown world isn't enough.

You will be forced to participate in clown world.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:26:28 AM EDT
[#2]
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:26:37 AM EDT
[#3]
That should probably pump up the recruiting numbers
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:27:25 AM EDT
[#4]
Got out in 2023.  Was unreal at the time and, it appears, only getting worse!
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:27:52 AM EDT
[#5]
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Originally Posted By BoneB1B:
That should probably pump up the recruiting numbers
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Was going to post that
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:28:21 AM EDT
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I'm sure our enimies are shaking in their boots with fear as they build military instalations in Central America and in the Caribean on the island of Antiqua.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:28:47 AM EDT
[#7]
Destroyed from within.....social cancer is real
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:29:36 AM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By Dumak:
Living in clown world isn't enough.

You will be forced to participate in clown world.
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We liberated ourselves from the British and its almost as if we're trying to become them now.  

Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:29:39 AM EDT
[#9]
That'll help recruitment numbers
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:30:08 AM EDT
[#10]
I need about 30 more years in a rural, quiet farm area where things are still relatively normal.  


Am I going to make it?
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:31:24 AM EDT
[#11]
As of a couple weeks ago the Army is saying all soldiers sex is what is reflected in DEERS. It does not matter how they identify per JAG. Apparently there is a process to change sex in the DEERS system but I don’t think anyone has been successful….YET. Probably just a matter of time though.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:32:46 AM EDT
[#12]
Now China is really afraid
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:34:43 AM EDT
[#13]
Holy shit this eventually must end. Maybe we need a war at this point to clear out the drains.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:37:35 AM EDT
[#14]
And yet they wonder why nobody wants to stay in or join up.  Officer corps is rotten through and through.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:38:14 AM EDT
[#15]
I just read about some LE (corrections) person who is up on investigation… one of the “violations” was “mis-gendering” someone…

I am not surprised that Biden’s military chooses to go this route as well.  

I miss the old days- when the military was for fighting wars effectively, not a damned leftist social experiment.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:40:23 AM EDT
[#16]
Just use his rank.  He will get the idea when you use ma'am and sir with everyone else but Col. for that dude.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:40:25 AM EDT
[#17]
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Originally Posted By Dumak:
Living in clown world isn't enough.

You will be forced to participate in clown world.
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I'm not going to play.  No pronouns if needed, "Airman" works.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:40:36 AM EDT
[#18]
But...but....how do you know what any one individual's "preferred pronoun" is???  If you take your best guess, you are risking a Courts Martial!

Let's get some suggestions for Pronoun Uniform Insignias.  Maybe epaulet loops in either pink (F) or blue (M) like the green Combat Leader loops?

Or head gear?



Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:40:56 AM EDT
[#19]
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:41:10 AM EDT
[#20]
But who is gonna fly those F16's and launch nukes at the MAGAs?
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:42:26 AM EDT
[#21]
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:42:40 AM EDT
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I was recently at a multi-service event and the amount of enlisted I spoke to who were all getting out was unreal.  Probably 75% of them from E6 to E4 with anywhere from 4 to 10 years TIS were either in the process of ETS'ing or getting ready to start.  

The senior enlisted people said it was a massive problem and they saw no light at the end of the tunnel.  The worst example was an E6 with 14 years, said he couldn't take it anymore.  Damn, 14 years down the drain.

But don't worry, things are going swell and our people are being well cared for  I have no idea why we have a recruiting crisis!

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Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:43:21 AM EDT
[#23]
A man in a dress is still a man, even if he had his manly bits lopped off.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:43:36 AM EDT
[#24]
What experts?
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:43:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BoneB1B:
That should probably pump up the recruiting numbers
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Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:47:04 AM EDT
[#26]
thats one ugly looking dude
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:47:57 AM EDT
[#27]
I have no idea why recruiting is down.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:54:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DoubleARon:
What experts?
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Article tells you exactly who. Name and where from.

Thomas Wheatley, an assistant professor at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, told the Daily Caller News Foundation.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:55:55 AM EDT
[#29]
snugglingunderwarmdd214blanket.jpg
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:57:06 AM EDT
[#30]
"Could"
"Experts say"
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:58:00 AM EDT
[#31]
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Originally Posted By SeanTX:
"Could"
"Experts say"
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"Capt. Thomas Wheatley, an assistant professor at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point"
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:58:34 AM EDT
[#32]
@CarmelBytheSea

Because this is usually his kinda post.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:58:40 AM EDT
[#33]
Thank you for your Cervix
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:59:12 AM EDT
[#34]
Not yes sir. Not yes ma’am. Yes They/Them?

Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:59:22 AM EDT
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"Could"
"Experts say"
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And I hope they're wrong and it stays that way, but betting against bizarro world doesn't seem to be safe nowadays.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 12:00:46 PM EDT
[#36]
I dont use tranny pronouns, I just refer to them as inmate.  It really pisses off the tranny hugging psychs I work with but its 100% within policy.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 12:03:31 PM EDT
[#37]
Waiting for a salty Spec 4 to request the pronoun General BIG COCK.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 12:07:41 PM EDT
[#38]
Is it possible to have my preferred pronouns mandated?
Straight male. Is mine
So if they don’t use mine can I get them a court martial?
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 12:09:36 PM EDT
[#39]
When troops perceive that they are being forced to lie, then later expecting them to tell the truth could become inconsistent and confusing.

The military should not then be surprised when troops lie about other things.

Link Posted: 4/22/2024 12:09:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kychas:
Is it possible to have my preferred pronouns mandated?
Straight male. Is mine
So if they don’t use mine can I get them a court martial?
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Maybe instead try and use the pronouns "normal / sane."
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 12:14:08 PM EDT
[#41]
“The worst example was an E6 with 14 years, said he couldn't take it anymore.  Damn, 14 years down the drain.”

He can just go reserve or guard for 6 years and get retirement at 65. And still get tricare for that 6 years

Link Posted: 4/22/2024 12:18:10 PM EDT
[#42]
Just use their rank.  Fuck 'em.  In a world where they want to be special and expect to make people use what they ifentify as, just stay with their rank, it's as close as we can get to genderless.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 12:19:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dumak:
Living in clown world isn't enough.

You will be forced to participate in clown world.
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I'm starting to think that this is according to plan, it's a plan to completely destabilize us so that some chaos ensues and then they can finally toss that pesky Constitution aside for real power.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 12:20:47 PM EDT
[#44]
Purge the military
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 12:21:45 PM EDT
[#45]
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Originally Posted By floridacop:
Just use their rank.  Fuck 'em.  In a world where they want to be special and expect to make people use what they ifentify as, just stay with their rank, it's as close as we can get to genderless.
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I had to participate in a presentation to an SES civilian in a dress and make-up. I nearly fucked up the Sir/ Ma'am on that one.

It's legit hard to participate in this clown world
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 12:22:57 PM EDT
[#46]
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 12:25:17 PM EDT
[#47]
Fuck your pronouns.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 12:29:11 PM EDT
[#48]
With all the shit going on in the world this is what our fearless leaders are worried about.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 12:30:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By staringback05:
Purge the military
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The commies did just that, and are getting/have gotten the officers they want to destroy the military from within. Already have voting, education, economic, law enforcement, judicial and every other government entity under their control. Only balkanization or blood stops them now.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 12:30:34 PM EDT
[#50]
Our enemies will be overwhelmed by the diversity of our troops.
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