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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:56:57 AM EDT
NVDY is an ETF of sorts that seeks to pay divvies off covered calls written against NVDA. Most of its holdings at any given time are US Treasuries and the like. Monthly dividends have ranged from $0.67 to $2.6 per share, ~$25-27 SP. It's only been around since June '23, $355M AUM, I can't understand why it's not a hotter item with the yields it has returned.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 10:30:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By VVinci:
NVDY is an ETF of sorts that seeks to pay divvies off covered calls written against NVDA. Most of its holdings at any given time are US Treasuries and the like. Monthly dividends have ranged from $0.67 to $2.6 per share, ~$25-27 SP. It's only been around since June '23, $355M AUM, I can't understand why it's not a hotter item with the yields it has returned.
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The crazy dividends are a result of the predictably increasing NVDA stock price and the money flowing into the ETF because it is new.  
All covered call ETFs will, in the long run, underperform the investment against which they write the covered calls.  
They will often keep pace with the underlying investment when the markets are relatively flat and might even have smaller losses during down periods.  But, over the long run the covered call ETF will underperform.  

I've used index(sp500 and nasdaq) covered call ETFs that yield around 10% for short time periods with decent results, but long-term they are a losing strategy.  

Compare nvdy against nvda and you will see that nvdy massively underperforms.

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Link Posted: 4/19/2024 11:32:31 AM EDT
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Thanks for the analysis! I'm looking at it as a 1 year or less play to harvest the dividends, so it appears I had the right mindset.

Drip with NVDA obviously makes virtually no difference because their divvy is so small relative to SP
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 11:33:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/19/2024 11:39:03 AM EDT
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I think the one aspect missed is that for someone like my 19 YO son, who only has a couple of k in his IRA, buying NVDA is too high risk, but he can participate a bit in NVDA if he believes in it via NVDY because he can afford 10-20 shares of that.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 12:41:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By VVinci:
Thanks for the analysis! I'm looking at it as a 1 year or less play to harvest the dividends, so it appears I had the right mindset.
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The chart above is about 10 months - you're telling me you'd rather get 50% return than 100% return?  


Link Posted: 4/19/2024 1:03:15 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/19/2024 2:51:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Morgan321:


The chart above is about 10 months - you're telling me you'd rather get 50% return than 100% return?  


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You think NVDA will double over the next 10 months? I don't, and if it flattens or trades sideways for a while, the dividend will perform well.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 3:34:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/19/2024 3:51:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By VVinci:
.....if it flattens or trades sideways for a while, the dividend will perform well.
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